On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:11:14 +0000, you wrote: Thomas wilson m. Rebecca Hampton 5 Dec 1835 Grainger Co.,TN Thomas Wilson m. Evaline Brayton 9 Sept 1830 Shelby Co.,TN Thomas D. Wilson m. Ann H. Sims 27 Oct 1836 Williamson Co.,TN >I am trying to find a family connection to my GG Grandfather who died in >Missouri, but was born and is thought to have married his first wife in >Tennessee before moving to Missouri and marrying a second time. I have little >info to go on, but appreciate anything you might be able to find: > >Thomas Wilson >Born January 1815 in Tenn. >Married first wife (name unknown) about 1832-1835 >Moved to Missouri about 1835 >Married second wife about 1839 in Missouri -- Mary Ann Davis, daughter of >William P. Davis >Had three children in Missouri >Died about 1846 in Missouri > >Any leads you might turn up would be most useful in making a family connection >back in Tennessee. Thanks ! > > >> List, >> I will do lookups in VA . >> Land,Probate,Marriage 1639 -1850 >> Marriage Index VA 1740 1920. >> >> TN Marriage index 1851 =1900 >> Marriage index 1720 -1920 >> Early Tennessee Settlers, 1700s-1900s >> >> Among the unique resources included here, you'll find (in the book >> "1770-1790 Census of the Cumberland Settlements") a virtual first >> census of Tennessee, as well as a tombstone-by-tombstone account of >> early Tennessee's local cemeteries (in "Tennessee Records: Tombstone >> Inscriptions and Manuscripts"). >> Early Tennessee Settlers, 1700s-1900s >> >> You may find the following information about an ancestor referenced >> within these fourteen volumes: >> * Names and descriptions of family members; >> * Dates and details of vital events; >> * General characteristics; >> * Occupation; >> * Age; >> * Residence; >> * Information on military service. >> Nadine >> List Admin >>

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:00:09 -0800, you wrote: Carol, This as close as I could find. Nadine > Tennessee > John Hicks 1780-1840 (except for the name I know nothing about him and >would like to ) married to Eunice (don't know her maiden name)-had Michael >Hicks born 1819-?(don't know when or where he died-just Tn.) married to >Elizabeth Jane Fields in 1840. Michael H, Hicks m. Elizabeth J. Fields 18 June 1841 Gibson Co, Tn Harrison Hicks n, Annabelle Wade 2 Dec 1850 Henry Co.,TN > Son of Michael-William Henry Harrison Hicks-1848-1915 married (1) to >Susan Harkey and then to my Great Grandmother-Ella Eugenia Stone the Great >Grandaughter of above John Stone. > > Thanking you in advance and anything you can find will be or could be the >clue I need to complete these lines or at least take to next step. > > Carol Wilson Lopez > Hemet, Ca. > > Looking in the tree for my branches > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:27 AM > Subject: [WILSON-L] VA & TN LOOKUPS > > > > List, > > I will do lookups in VA . > > Land,Probate,Marriage 1639 -1850 > > Marriage Index VA 1740 1920. > > > > TN Marriage index 1851 =1900 > > Marriage index 1720 -1920 > > Early Tennessee Settlers, 1700s-1900s > > > > Among the unique resources included here, you'll find (in the book > > "1770-1790 Census of the Cumberland Settlements") a virtual first > > census of Tennessee, as well as a tombstone-by-tombstone account of > > early Tennessee's local cemeteries (in "Tennessee Records: Tombstone > > Inscriptions and Manuscripts"). > > Early Tennessee Settlers, 1700s-1900s > > > > You may find the following information about an ancestor referenced > > within these fourteen volumes: > > * Names and descriptions of family members; > > * Dates and details of vital events; > > * General characteristics; > > * Occupation; > > * Age; > > * Residence; > > * Information on military service. > > Nadine > > List Admin > > > > > > > > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > > http//www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html > > You are responsible for following the A.U.P. > > Acceptable Use Policy > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >==== WILSON Mailing List ==== >No political statements to this list. >No religious statements. >You will be banned from list. > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I am trying to find a family connection to my GG Grandfather who died in Missouri, but was born and is thought to have married his first wife in Tennessee before moving to Missouri and marrying a second time. I have little info to go on, but appreciate anything you might be able to find: Thomas Wilson Born January 1815 in Tenn. Married first wife (name unknown) about 1832-1835 Moved to Missouri about 1835 Married second wife about 1839 in Missouri -- Mary Ann Davis, daughter of William P. Davis Had three children in Missouri Died about 1846 in Missouri Any leads you might turn up would be most useful in making a family connection back in Tennessee. Thanks ! > List, > I will do lookups in VA . > Land,Probate,Marriage 1639 -1850 > Marriage Index VA 1740 1920. > > TN Marriage index 1851 =1900 > Marriage index 1720 -1920 > Early Tennessee Settlers, 1700s-1900s > > Among the unique resources included here, you'll find (in the book > "1770-1790 Census of the Cumberland Settlements") a virtual first > census of Tennessee, as well as a tombstone-by-tombstone account of > early Tennessee's local cemeteries (in "Tennessee Records: Tombstone > Inscriptions and Manuscripts"). > Early Tennessee Settlers, 1700s-1900s > > You may find the following information about an ancestor referenced > within these fourteen volumes: > * Names and descriptions of family members; > * Dates and details of vital events; > * General characteristics; > * Occupation; > * Age; > * Residence; > * Information on military service. > Nadine > List Admin > > > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > http//www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html > You are responsible for following the A.U.P. > Acceptable Use Policy > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I think there are cases where indians or other darker skinned individuals have been entered in the census as colored. If you're looking for the parents of you James H. Wilson (and his wife), you should be able to find him in the 1880 census. There is a transcription online at www.familysearch.org. You can limit the search there in different ways. Sue -- "Kaye" <[email protected]> wrote: I have been trying to research a Wilson family for some time and have hit a hugh brick wall. When I saw your post, it got me to thinking that maybe the Wilson's I am looking for are connected to the Indians, and that is why I haven't been able to find them. I was also told that if a person was indian, then they were listed as "black" or "colored" in the US Census records, do you know if that is true? The Wilson's I am looking for are James H. Wilson born about 1873 and married Lafolia Conkle born about 1875. They had a daughter Lula Avery Wilson born 1903 and married Jasper A. Wilson born about 1880 (yes, her maiden name was also Wilson). As far as I can find, going by the census records, they were all born in Georgia. Do you by chance have any of the above in your list of Wilson? I'll gladly share what I have if there is a connection. Any help will be gladly appreciated. Thanks Kaye [email protected]

Do you have a marriage for a Benjamin F. Wilson in Chattanooga, Hamilton, Tennessee. He was raised in Pisgah, Jackson, Alabama. He is the son of Eliga Wilson and Sarah E. Stogsdill Wilson. This marriage would have taken place ca. 1890s. R. Sharon Henson ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 11:27 AM Subject: [WILSON-L] VA & TN LOOKUPS > List, > I will do lookups in VA . > Land,Probate,Marriage 1639 -1850 > Marriage Index VA 1740 1920. > > TN Marriage index 1851 =1900 > Marriage index 1720 -1920 > Early Tennessee Settlers, 1700s-1900s > > Among the unique resources included here, you'll find (in the book > "1770-1790 Census of the Cumberland Settlements") a virtual first > census of Tennessee, as well as a tombstone-by-tombstone account of > early Tennessee's local cemeteries (in "Tennessee Records: Tombstone > Inscriptions and Manuscripts"). > Early Tennessee Settlers, 1700s-1900s > > You may find the following information about an ancestor referenced > within these fourteen volumes: > * Names and descriptions of family members; > * Dates and details of vital events; > * General characteristics; > * Occupation; > * Age; > * Residence; > * Information on military service. > Nadine > List Admin > > > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > http//www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html > You are responsible for following the A.U.P. > Acceptable Use Policy > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.4 - Release Date: 12/15/2004 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.4 - Release Date: 12/15/2004

A group of people of unknown ethnic origin lived in the hills of Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee and Kentucky. They were already there when the first settlers arrived, and later described as Melungeons. Dark skin was one of their characteristics. One purpose of the 1790 census was to "segrate" certain people denying them the right to own property or vote. The Melungeons were among these people. Census records often show them as "mul" (Mulatto) or FPC (free people of color).

I'm not sure if you are offering lookups in middle TN. If you are, I would like anything in Montgomery Co on a James M Wilson who was married to Mary Hatcher in 1838 with a bondsman being Shadrack Lee. They had at least two sons, Amos and Shadrack L Wilson. Deeds, court records, or anything which might provide a clue as to where he came from and what part Shadrack Lee played in their lives. Thanks, Marilyn

Can you expound on the Conkle/Wilson connection a bit more. I know of Conkle's who were prominent in GA at the time of the Civil War. Some are still in GA and some are now NC. Mark Wilson Charlotte, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, December 16, 2004 11:08 am Subject: [WILSON-L] Re: Wilson /Conkle > > I think there are cases where indians or other darker skinned > individuals have been entered in the census as colored. > > If you're looking for the parents of you James H. Wilson (and his > wife), you should be able to find him in the 1880 census. There > is a transcription online at www.familysearch.org. You can limit > the search there in different ways. > > Sue > > -- "Kaye" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have been trying to research a Wilson family for some time and > have hit a > hugh brick wall. When I saw your post, it got me to thinking that > maybe the > Wilson's I am looking for are connected to the Indians, and that > is why I > haven't been able to find them. I was also told that if a person > was indian, > then they were listed as "black" or "colored" in the US Census > records, do > you know if that is true? > > The Wilson's I am looking for are James H. Wilson born about 1873 > and > married Lafolia Conkle born about 1875. They had a daughter Lula > Avery > Wilson born 1903 and married Jasper A. Wilson born about 1880 > (yes, her > maiden name was also Wilson). As far as I can find, going by the > census > records, they were all born in Georgia. > > Do you by chance have any of the above in your list of Wilson? > I'll gladly > share what I have if there is a connection. Any help will be > gladly > appreciated. > > Thanks > Kaye > [email protected] > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > No political statements to this list. > No religious statements. > You will be banned from list. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Thanks Nadine, I have a John Wilson B ca 1761 Hampshire/Hardy Co. VA/WV. He was supposed to be from around the So Fork of the Potomac--Moorefield area. He married a Sussanah Kautzman/Couchman. The family went to Greene Co., Tennessee about 1786. Thanks, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 12:27 PM Subject: [WILSON-L] VA & TN LOOKUPS > List, > I will do lookups in VA . > Land,Probate,Marriage 1639 -1850 > Marriage Index VA 1740 1920. > --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0451-1, 12/14/2004 Tested on: 12/16/2004 12:49:01 PM avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

List, I will do lookups in VA . Land,Probate,Marriage 1639 -1850 Marriage Index VA 1740 1920. TN Marriage index 1851 =1900 Marriage index 1720 -1920 Early Tennessee Settlers, 1700s-1900s Among the unique resources included here, you'll find (in the book "1770-1790 Census of the Cumberland Settlements") a virtual first census of Tennessee, as well as a tombstone-by-tombstone account of early Tennessee's local cemeteries (in "Tennessee Records: Tombstone Inscriptions and Manuscripts"). Early Tennessee Settlers, 1700s-1900s You may find the following information about an ancestor referenced within these fourteen volumes: * Names and descriptions of family members; * Dates and details of vital events; * General characteristics; * Occupation; * Age; * Residence; * Information on military service. Nadine List Admin

I would like a look-up Virginia John Stone Born 1792 married to Ann ? they had several children-William born 1816 Married to Catherine Menser in 1838 anything you can find on them is greatly appreciated. Tennessee John Hicks 1780-1840 (except for the name I know nothing about him and would like to ) married to Eunice (don't know her maiden name)-had Michael Hicks born 1819-?(don't know when or where he died-just Tn.) married to Elizabeth Jane Fields in 1840. Son of Michael-William Henry Harrison Hicks-1848-1915 married (1) to Susan Harkey and then to my Great Grandmother-Ella Eugenia Stone the Great Grandaughter of above John Stone. Thanking you in advance and anything you can find will be or could be the clue I need to complete these lines or at least take to next step. Carol Wilson Lopez Hemet, Ca. Looking in the tree for my branches ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:27 AM Subject: [WILSON-L] VA & TN LOOKUPS > List, > I will do lookups in VA . > Land,Probate,Marriage 1639 -1850 > Marriage Index VA 1740 1920. > > TN Marriage index 1851 =1900 > Marriage index 1720 -1920 > Early Tennessee Settlers, 1700s-1900s > > Among the unique resources included here, you'll find (in the book > "1770-1790 Census of the Cumberland Settlements") a virtual first > census of Tennessee, as well as a tombstone-by-tombstone account of > early Tennessee's local cemeteries (in "Tennessee Records: Tombstone > Inscriptions and Manuscripts"). > Early Tennessee Settlers, 1700s-1900s > > You may find the following information about an ancestor referenced > within these fourteen volumes: > * Names and descriptions of family members; > * Dates and details of vital events; > * General characteristics; > * Occupation; > * Age; > * Residence; > * Information on military service. > Nadine > List Admin > > > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > http//www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html > You are responsible for following the A.U.P. > Acceptable Use Policy > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello Pat, I have been trying to research a Wilson family for some time and have hit a hugh brick wall. When I saw your post, it got me to thinking that maybe the Wilson's I am looking for are connected to the Indians, and that is why I haven't been able to find them. I was also told that if a person was indian, then they were listed as "black" or "colored" in the US Census records, do you know if that is true? The Wilson's I am looking for are James H. Wilson born about 1873 and married Lafolia Conkle born about 1875. They had a daughter Lula Avery Wilson born 1903 and married Jasper A. Wilson born about 1880 (yes, her maiden name was also Wilson). As far as I can find, going by the census records, they were all born in Georgia. Do you by chance have any of the above in your list of Wilson? I'll gladly share what I have if there is a connection. Any help will be gladly appreciated. Thanks Kaye [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom and Patty" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 9:05 PM Subject: [WILSON-L] RE: Wilson and Tillman > > Re: Thomas Wilson/ Marilyns' post listed below > > Hello Marilyn and all, > This is my first post, sorry it is so long but wanted to get out as much > as possible. > I am doing Cherokee research and I have my Wilson line back to the > mid-late 1700's. I am now as far back as I believe my Cherokee records can > take me. Marilyn mentioned a Thomas Wilson being a licensed Indian Trader. > North Carolina was part of the Original Cherokee lands prior to white > settlement. Does anyone have any information on this Thomas Wilson? I have > not done any kind of research other than Cherokee Rolls and documents and > I'm kind of lost at where to start on the white settler research. > > And yes, at least among the Cherokee, it was common for a White man to > keep two wives, one at home in the white settlments and one Cherokee wife > for when he was living among the Indians. This not only aided in his > ability to meet more Indians to trade with, it also kept him a little > safer traveling throughout the land and gave him rights as a Cherokee > citizen to hunt, trap, etc. (If he was adopted into the tribe). > > My Wilson Cherokee have carried the Wilson surname since the 1700's. This > would only happen if a Wilson man was married into the Cherokee tribe, or > if a Cherokee man took a White mans' name out of honor and friendship. > Most full-blood Cherokee did not take a surname until the Civil War and > were given their names by soldiers to keep their records straight. The > Cherokee were highly involved in the Civil War and suffered the highest > casualty rate than any state involved in the war. But that's another > story. > > My Thomas Wilson, SR was born about 1770 + or - and he married Betsy > McCrary born about 1770 + or - . They were married about 1785. They are > the parents of George W. Wilson, Sr. born about 1786. I do not know if any > of these three are of Cherokee blood, but George W.Wilson, Sr did marry > Ruth Springston, 1/2 Cherokee and dau. of William (John?) Springston, > white, and Nancy Augustus, Full-blood. Nancy was also married later to > Alexander Drumgoole, a white man. > > Thomas Wilson, Sr was also married to an unknown HICKS, probably Elizabeth > Hicks, sister to Charles Renautus Hicks, Cherokee Chief. > > I have found one Will of Elizabeth Irwin or Irvin, that list a Thomas > Wilson and Nathaniel Hicks as her son-in-laws. Mailyn listed a name close > to this, Irven/Urvin, I have also seen this name as Erwin. I do not know > if this is anything related to me. > > I believe Betsy McCrary Wilson is from the Hugh McCrary/McCreary line from > VA. I have not documented this, but I have a Hiram McCreary (documented > and also from Hughs' line) married into another line of my Cherokee > ancestors and I think the two are first cousins, by dates, location, > others in the two lines married, etc. Also, their is a Elizabeth McCrary > (Betsy?)in Hughs' line that is the right age. But I'm still working on > her. > > Is anyone on here researching this Wilson Line? Maybe before it goes into > the Cherokee Bloodline? Does anything sound familiar? Any suggestions, > recommendations, help, will be greatly appreciated. > Pat > > > > I have noticed in the past how frequently the Surnames Wilson and Tillman/ > Tilghman are found marrying. That has to mean something. > The only guess I have is back in the first quarter of the 1700s in what is > now > Brunswick Co, Va, there were a group of Indian traders living close > together > who had all been liscenced to trade with the North Carolina Indians, or at > least their in-laws had been. There was a Thomas Wilson, a Tillman, a > Pettypool (later shortened to Pool(e), a Trotter, a King, a Richard Smith, > and > Irven/Urvin. > > That is all I can remember off the top of my head. Many of these appear > to > be the same men found listed on the surveying crew for the Byrd survey > between NC and VA. > > Could these families have stuck together over the years? There also could > have been in addition to their white families, an Indian wife and children > back > with whatever Indians they traded with. (a common practice as I > understand). > > Marilyn > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from list. > e-mail to [email protected] > unsubscribe in message. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Thanks, Nadine for the list of Ohio Wilson & McConnell marriages. I surely appreciate your help. It seems no one on the list is researching my Wilsons. Same thing with the McConnell List, too. Faye __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

My Wilson line traced currently to Hawkins, Co. TN is supposed to have Indian connections also, but I dont see any familiar surnames in this mail. Am im-patiently waiting to find my Wilsons connection somwhere. Surnames I know: WILSON/JONES/WINNES/KING/DAVIS janice http://www.geocities.com/jchandle

My earliest Wilson is George W. Wilson, SR. born 1786, place unknown. Married Ruth Springston, 1/2 Cherokee. Evaluated for Removal in Jan. 1834 in TN, arrived in Indian Territory (Oklahoma) in May 1834. source: Genealogy Dept. Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma. His parents are listed as Thomas Wilson, SR. and Betsy McCrary. estimated births 1770 +or -. Which is probably earlier at least for Thomas. Thomas, Sr. was married first to an unknown Hicks (prob. Elizabeth) and had only one known son together, Thomas Wilson, Jr. b. 1785 found in AL., as an adult, prior to Removal of 1838. Unknown HICKs remarried to a Bigby and had children. I was curious about the Urvin/Erwin/Irvan Will because it mentioned Hicks and Wilson as son-in-laws(Nathaniel and Thomas?), and those names hit so close to what I was researching. I was wondering if it might be Thomas Wilson Jr and a Maternal Uncle or cousin. I have not looked into this too much, and I have not gotten into details on the Hicks family yet, as Thomas, Jr. is only a half brother to George, Sr. and this is too far off to the side for me right now. I am just now getting into the Thomas Wilson, Sr. generation. This is about all I have on Thomas as of now. Emmit Starr was a reknown expert on Cherokee genealogy and his book on the Cherokiee History is a great starting place for research. It list family groups in a genealogical order. There are a few mistakes and incomplete family listings. These are being fixed and the book rewritten by at least two separate gentlemen. I have documented and corrected my family line that is listed in the book. It goes back to the marriage of George Wilson, SR. and Ruth Springston, through the Springston/Drumgoole line. My documentation for this line has been added to the Cherokee Nation genealogy department to add to the completion of certain family records. My Grandfathers paternal and maternal lines are Cherokee with a few intermarried whites, so I have done a lot of Cherokee research. I have most lines back to before 1800. I still have one missing Gr. Gr. Grandmother that I need to find. I will try the Google search and see what I can find. Thank you Tom FYI: Cherokee genealogy is not proven the way whites are proven. There is no Federal censuses, land sales(Cherokee land was owned by the tribe, and not indiviually until 1906), marriage records, etc. Though some marriages and baptisms were recorded by missionaries working inside the Nation. Most documents come from census Rolls, Applications such as Dawes and Guion Miller app.'s, where enrollees had to list their ancestors, Indian agent logs, Cherokee council records, etc. So the info on George Wilson is the best that can be found. The Cherokee Nation uses the Dawes Roll (1897-1905) to prove eligibility for Tribal Enrollment today. Where and when in the 1700s are your earliest proven Wilson records? The Thomas Wilson I referred to had a son named Thomas also and I get the two generations confused. One married a McLin and the other married an Irvin/Urvin/Irwin/ spellings unsure. At any rate the elder Thomas Wilson was married to a Nathaniel either Urvin/Erwin, or McLin. His son married the other surname. I am not an expert on either this family or the Indian traders. However I am very interested in them. I don't have the information at my fingertips, and won't have time until after Christmas to do much about it. I think if you do a google search on William Pettypool, it will bring up the info on the Indian traders. Many were found living on Three Creeks near each other. I have really beaten the bushes for early Wilsons in this area along the NC/Va border.

I sure garbled this message up late last night. Thomas Wilson was the son-in-law of an Indian Trader, but not one for whom I have seen any official documentation. His name was Nathaniel. Thomas Wilson was living near some of the others who were however mentioned as having been sanctioned for trading with the Indians in North Carolina. Yes there was a Hix/Hicks brother-in-law. I also see the Hicks name in Surry Co. A Robert & William Hicks appear in Northampton, NC just across the border. I believe that it was this Thomas Wilson who was at one point the surveyor for Brunswick Co. He lost a lawsuit and then seemed to disappear around the 1730s. There are people who followed his only known child, Thomas Jr., that I have seen on line. All of this is strictly from memory and needs to be checked out. For those interested in an Indian connection, Brunswick, Southampton Va and across the border Northampton, NC are considered a tri-racial area where lots of mixing of the blood lines occurred quite early. Richard Smith was a registered Indian trader who helped in the building of Fort Christiana right after the Tuscora War. He also had a brother named Nicholas and some of that family ended up in Edgecombe, NC. The land connected to the fort was sold off ca 1719, as I recall. That date would need to be checked on. Indian traders: http://www.mindspring.com/~baumbach/ppoole/ppoole3.htm --------------------------------------- "The Thomas Wilson I referred to had a son named Thomas also and I get the two generations confused. One married a McLin and the other married an Irvin/Urvin/Irwin/ spellings unsure. At any rate the elder Thomas Wilson was married to a Nathaniel either Urvin/Erwin, or McLin. His son married the other surname."

Hello, Re: 1700s/1800s WILSON family married into Cherokee-Scottish trader family (Not much information on the WILSON connection but trying to find more regarding: (some of the locations are confusing from the WILSON-McCRACKEN information that I have previously seen and trying to substantiate which is correct...) Elizabeth WILSON, born: 1754-56 in Guilford Co., NC or White, Habersham Co., GA, died: Abt. 1821 in Jefferson Co., AL or Bradshaws near Giles County Line, TN, (may have been the sister of John WILSON and Mary WILSON who married Andrew McCLURE and their parents names are not known by me at this time but trying to find.) Elizabeth WILSON married Abt. 1769 in either Guilford Co., NC or White, Habersham Co., GA, to David McCRACKEN, Jr., (RS,) born: April 18, 1747 in St. Mary's County, Maryland or Guilford Co., NC, died: Bef. August 24, 1812 near Bradshaw Co., TN or.Lincoln County, Tennessee. Your information shown much further below regarding the Cherokee traders and Cherokee tribe members named WILSON and those out of Brunswick County, Virginia in the early 1700s as well as North Carolina and I would assume probably later into South Carolina, Georgia, etc. makes me think that there are probably those in this group that are connected to the WILSON-PIERCE family group that married into and is descended from the Cherokee family group it is believed that I descend from that married into my MYRICK family group that appears to have, originally, been out of the area of Brunswick County, Virginia in Abt. 1700, earlier on Isle of Wight/Surry Counties, that was then in North Carolina and South Carolina with my 4th great grandfather, James MYRICK, born: Abt. 1740 in Orangeburgh District, South Carolina, who married Mary BROOKER, and I descend through their son, William MYRICK, born: Abt. 1788 in Barnwell County, South Carolina, (formerly Orangeburgh District and Winton County,) who married Elizabeth "Bettie?" PIERCE, born: 1790 in Old 96th District, South Carolina, whom is believed to have been the daughter of Hugh PIERCE, (RS,) born: Abt. 1749 in Frederick County, Virginia, who died in the early 1840s in Alabama, and his Cherokee wife, Sophia/Sofia HUNTER/ poss. aka BOWLES, born sometime later than her husband, died: 1849 in Henderson, Rusk County, Texas, whom is believed to have been the daughter of Cherokee parents, father: Bold HUNTER, born: Abt. 1750 in North Carolina, and mother: Beaver TOTER/TOATER, known to have been in Georgia in the 1830s and listed as a deeded land owner. This Bold HUNTER is possibly the same Bold HUNTER, aka DUWALI/D'IWALI as the Texas Cherokee (Chief) John BOWLES, Sr., (said to be 1/2 Cherokee from his mother and 1/2 Scottish from his "Trader" father, ? BOWLES,) and he was born in Abt. 1750 in North Carolina, died: July 16, 1839 in East Texas. The aforementioned Hugh PIERCE, (RS,) and Sophia/Sofia HUNTER had several known children including the George PIERCE who married Elizabeth McCRACKEN, born: 1776 in South Carolina, who was the daughter of the aformentioned Elizabeth WILSON and David McCRACKEN, Jr., (RS.) Looking forward to hearing from any of you who might know anything about the names of the parents of Elizabeth WILSON and any other connecting Cherokee/Trader information for them and/or any of the other families mentioned. In advance, I thank you. Sincerely, Bellinda Myrick-Barnett In a message dated 12/14/2004 10:08:42 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Where and when in the 1700s are your earliest proven Wilson records? The Thomas Wilson I referred to had a son named Thomas also and I get the two generations confused. One married a McLin and the other married an Irvin/Urvin/Irwin/ spellings unsure. At any rate the elder Thomas Wilson was married to a Nathaniel either Urvin/Erwin, or McLin. His son married the other surname. I am not an expert on either this family or the Indian traders. However I am very interested in them. I don't have the information at my fingertips, and won't have time until after Christmas to do much about it. I think if you do a google search on William Pettypool, it will bring up the info on the Indian traders. Many were found living on Three Creeks near each other. I have really beaten the bushes for early Wilsons in this area along the NC/Va border. On Dec 14, 2004, at 9:05 PM, Tom and Patty wrote: Re: Thomas Wilson/ Marilyns' post listed below Hello Marilyn and all, This is my first post, sorry it is so long but wanted to get out as much as possible. I am doing Cherokee research and I have my Wilson line back to the mid-late 1700's. I am now as far back as I believe my Cherokee records can take me. Marilyn mentioned a Thomas Wilson being a licensed Indian Trader. North Carolina was part of the Original Cherokee lands prior to white settlement. Does anyone have any information on this Thomas Wilson? I have not done any kind of research other than Cherokee Rolls and documents and I'm kind of lost at where to start on the white settler research. And yes, at least among the Cherokee, it was common for a White man to keep two wives, one at home in the white settlments and one Cherokee wife for when he was living among the Indians. This not only aided in his ability to meet more Indians to trade with, it also kept him a little safer traveling throughout the land and gave him rights as a Cherokee citizen to hunt, trap, etc. (If he was adopted into the tribe). My Wilson Cherokee have carried the Wilson surname since the 1700's. This would only happen if a Wilson man was married into the Cherokee tribe, or if a Cherokee man took a White mans' name out of honor and friendship. Most full-blood Cherokee did not take a surname until the Civil War and were given their names by soldiers to keep their records straight. The Cherokee were highly involved in the Civil War and suffered the highest casualty rate than any state involved in the war. But that's another story. My Thomas Wilson, SR was born about 1770 + or - and he married Betsy McCrary born about 1770 + or - . They were married about 1785. They are the parents of George W. Wilson, Sr. born about 1786. I do not know if any of these three are of Cherokee blood, but George W.Wilson, Sr did marry Ruth Springston, 1/2 Cherokee and dau. of William (John?) Springston, white, and Nancy Augustus, Full-blood. Nancy was also married later to Alexander Drumgoole, a white man. Thomas Wilson, Sr was also married to an unknown HICKS, probably Elizabeth Hicks, sister to Charles Renautus Hicks, Cherokee Chief. I have found one Will of Elizabeth Irwin or Irvin, that list a Thomas Wilson and Nathaniel Hicks as her son-in-laws. Mailyn listed a name close to this, Irven/ Urvin, I have also seen this name as Erwin. I do not know if this is anything related to me. I believe Betsy McCrary Wilson is from the Hugh McCrary/McCreary line from VA. I have not documented this, but I have a Hiram McCreary (documented and also from Hughs' line) married into another line of my Cherokee ancestors and I think the two are first cousins, by dates, location, others in the two lines married, etc. Also, their is a Elizabeth McCrary (Betsy?)in Hughs' line that is the right age. But I'm still working on her. Is anyone on here researching this Wilson Line? Maybe before it goes into the Cherokee Bloodline? Does anything sound familiar? Any suggestions, recommendations, help, will be greatly appreciated. Pat I have noticed in the past how frequently the Surnames Wilson and Tillman/ Tilghman are found marrying. That has to mean something. The only guess I have is back in the first quarter of the 1700s in what is now Brunswick Co, Va, there were a group of Indian traders living close together who had all been liscenced to trade with the North Carolina Indians, or at least their in-laws had been. There was a Thomas Wilson, a Tillman, a Pettypool (later shortened to Pool(e), a Trotter, a King, a Richard Smith, and Irven/Urvin. That is all I can remember off the top of my head. Many of these appear to be the same men found listed on the surveying crew for the Byrd survey between NC and VA. Could these families have stuck together over the years? There also could have been in addition to their white families, an Indian wife and children back with whatever Indians they traded with. (a common practice as I understand). Marilyn ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== You flame – you’re GONE. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. 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Still looking for Morgan Wilson from Virginia born around 1830. I have Martha J. O'Del listed as his wife. I see a Martha ODel in the 1880 TN Census as a widow. Do any of you have any links to Martha? J.M.Wilson Charlotte, NC

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Where and when in the 1700s are your earliest proven Wilson records? The Thomas Wilson I referred to had a son named Thomas also and I get the two generations confused. One married a McLin and the other married an Irvin/Urvin/Irwin/ spellings unsure. At any rate the elder Thomas Wilson was married to a Nathaniel either Urvin/Erwin, or McLin. His son married the other surname. I am not an expert on either this family or the Indian traders. However I am very interested in them. I don't have the information at my fingertips, and won't have time until after Christmas to do much about it. I think if you do a google search on William Pettypool, it will bring up the info on the Indian traders. Many were found living on Three Creeks near each other. I have really beaten the bushes for early Wilsons in this area along the NC/Va border. On Dec 14, 2004, at 9:05 PM, Tom and Patty wrote: Re: Thomas Wilson/ Marilyns' post listed below Hello Marilyn and all, This is my first post, sorry it is so long but wanted to get out as much as possible. I am doing Cherokee research and I have my Wilson line back to the mid-late 1700's. I am now as far back as I believe my Cherokee records can take me. Marilyn mentioned a Thomas Wilson being a licensed Indian Trader. North Carolina was part of the Original Cherokee lands prior to white settlement. Does anyone have any information on this Thomas Wilson? I have not done any kind of research other than Cherokee Rolls and documents and I'm kind of lost at where to start on the white settler research. And yes, at least among the Cherokee, it was common for a White man to keep two wives, one at home in the white settlments and one Cherokee wife for when he was living among the Indians. This not only aided in his ability to meet more Indians to trade with, it also kept him a little safer traveling throughout the land and gave him rights as a Cherokee citizen to hunt, trap, etc. (If he was adopted into the tribe). My Wilson Cherokee have carried the Wilson surname since the 1700's. This would only happen if a Wilson man was married into the Cherokee tribe, or if a Cherokee man took a White mans' name out of honor and friendship. Most full-blood Cherokee did not take a surname until the Civil War and were given their names by soldiers to keep their records straight. The Cherokee were highly involved in the Civil War and suffered the highest casualty rate than any state involved in the war. But that's another story. My Thomas Wilson, SR was born about 1770 + or - and he married Betsy McCrary born about 1770 + or - . They were married about 1785. They are the parents of George W. Wilson, Sr. born about 1786. I do not know if any of these three are of Cherokee blood, but George W.Wilson, Sr did marry Ruth Springston, 1/2 Cherokee and dau. of William (John?) Springston, white, and Nancy Augustus, Full-blood. Nancy was also married later to Alexander Drumgoole, a white man. Thomas Wilson, Sr was also married to an unknown HICKS, probably Elizabeth Hicks, sister to Charles Renautus Hicks, Cherokee Chief. I have found one Will of Elizabeth Irwin or Irvin, that list a Thomas Wilson and Nathaniel Hicks as her son-in-laws. Mailyn listed a name close to this, Irven/ Urvin, I have also seen this name as Erwin. I do not know if this is anything related to me. I believe Betsy McCrary Wilson is from the Hugh McCrary/McCreary line from VA. I have not documented this, but I have a Hiram McCreary (documented and also from Hughs' line) married into another line of my Cherokee ancestors and I think the two are first cousins, by dates, location, others in the two lines married, etc. Also, their is a Elizabeth McCrary (Betsy?)in Hughs' line that is the right age. But I'm still working on her. Is anyone on here researching this Wilson Line? Maybe before it goes into the Cherokee Bloodline? Does anything sound familiar? Any suggestions, recommendations, help, will be greatly appreciated. Pat I have noticed in the past how frequently the Surnames Wilson and Tillman/ Tilghman are found marrying. That has to mean something. The only guess I have is back in the first quarter of the 1700s in what is now Brunswick Co, Va, there were a group of Indian traders living close together who had all been liscenced to trade with the North Carolina Indians, or at least their in-laws had been. There was a Thomas Wilson, a Tillman, a Pettypool (later shortened to Pool(e), a Trotter, a King, a Richard Smith, and Irven/Urvin. That is all I can remember off the top of my head. Many of these appear to be the same men found listed on the surveying crew for the Byrd survey between NC and VA. Could these families have stuck together over the years? There also could have been in addition to their white families, an Indian wife and children back with whatever Indians they traded with. (a common practice as I understand). Marilyn