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    1. [WILLIAMS-DNA] Viewing DNA Results in IE7
    2. Adrian Williams
    3. Y'all, I wanted to pass along that although the scrolling tables cannot be currently viewing correctly in IE7, there is still a way to view the project results with IE7. On the matched groups page, you will see a printer friendly version indicated. This (not the acrobat version) works well in IE7 and is dynamically generated from the database so it is always up to date with the latest information. The only real difference between this one and the other is that the printable version just dumps all the data to a single screen, which gets a bit lengthy...while the other keeps the page scrolling down and compacts everything into a cool scrolling table setup. Enjoy! Kind regards, Adrian Adrian Williams Williams DNA Project Administrator http://williams.genealogy.fm/ http://www.dna-pat.com/ stickamw@earthlink.net

    12/20/2006 02:18:54
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Viewing DNA Results in IE7
    2. Rea Williams
    3. For all of you wil IE7 Problems here is an exerpt from Scot's Newletter on the problems. Living with (or Without) Internet Explorer 7 I've received reports from many Scot's Newsletter and Computerworld readers about compatibility issues between IE7 and, especially, Web-based ASP products and proprietary or customized enterprise apps. It's been a five-year run for IE6; the Web developers who serve the business world appear to have moved in for the long haul. As a result, my best advice for most business users of Internet Explorer at this point is to stick with IE6 for a while, or switch at least temporarily to Firefox 2.0 or Opera 9. If you've made the switch to IE7 and don't want to go back (and I can't blame you; I prefer IE7 too), the compatibility issues emphasize a key drawback of the new IE you should think through. By upgrading to IE7, you've lost a key safety net that Windows-based Firefox and Opera fans enjoy: They can always fall back on IE6 to load a site or Web-based app that doesn't work correctly in their preferred browsers. But if you're using IE7, you can't just fire up IE6 for compatibility reasons. You're stuck. I talked to Microsoft's director of IE product management, Gary Schare, about this issue. Microsoft has just last week began offering an answer that lets you keep IE6 at your beck and call while you run IE7. I've tested it, and the solutions, which relies on virtualization, works fine. Microsoft made its desktop virtualization tool, Virtual PC 2004 SP1, free for download earlier this year. It's not my favorite virtualization tool, but it works fine. Grab Virtual PC 2004 SP1, an 18.2MB download. The key part of the equation is a virtual machine appliance supplied by the IE7 team that consists of a modified version of Windows XP SP2 whose sole purpose is to run IE6. It's a free 495.8MB download (requires WGA online validation) that times out on April 1. Schare says the IE7 team hopes to renew the program with a new virtual image after the first times out. There's no charge for the use of Windows XP, by the way. This is a pretty good deal. For more information, check out this entry in the Microsoft IE development team's IEBlog, IE6 and IE7 Running on a Single Machine. Problems Uninstalling IE7? I'm recommending that business people (and anyone who runs into Web compatibility issues with the new browser) latch onto this IE6 on XP/Virtual PC trick or uninstall IE7. Removal of Microsoft's newest browser is initiated from the Control Panel's Add or Remove Programs applet. Some pre-release versions of IE7 registered their Add/Remove entries in amongst the Windows Software Updates toward the bottom of the installed programs list. So if you don't find an IE7 program entry, be sure to click the "Show updates" check box to make that area appear and then scan the Windows security updates area. People often mistakenly think they can't uninstall IE7 when, in fact, they can. I've had excellent success uninstalling both the betas and the final version of IE7 from five of my PCs. The only problem I'm hearing from Windows XP users is that they can't find the IE7 entry in Add or Remove Programs. I have one report that IE7 can't be uninstalled from Windows Server 2003. At newsletter distribution time, Microsoft hadn't gotten back to me yet about Windows Server 2003. So far, the IE7 uninstall process seems a lot better than the similar but problematic IE 5.5 uninstall process prevalent in the late '90s. But I still don't really have enough data. If you're having issues with uninstalling IE7, please tell me about them. Be advised: Many people who ran the betas of IE7 and who installed the final code over any of those betas are having trouble uninstalling IE7. And the reason often boils down to this simple fact: They performed upgrade installs of successive betas of IE7. I've probably written this piece of advice to Windows users more frequently than any other since Windows 95 emerged: Do not install beta software over beta software. Do not install the final code over a beta installation. Always uninstall a previous beta version before you install any newer version. I've seen very experienced people do this and get into trouble. Beta software is not meant to be upgraded. You may get away with it sometimes, but sooner or later this practice will have negative consequences. Schare reports that all your important settings, your bookmarks, the Links bar, and other user data will be preserved when you uninstall IE7 and reinstall IE6. The only trace he could think of is that a handful of default IE7 bookmarks will remain in your bookmarks, but you can delete them manually. So, the point is, there's little reason not to uninstall previous versions of IE7 (this does not apply to IE6) before installing the final version of IE7. During IE7 Uninstall: Ignore Affected Programs Dialog There is, however, one part of IE7 uninstall process that you may need additional guidance on. During uninstall, a dialog pops up that warns you that some of your applications might in some unspecified way be affected by removing IE7. People who frequently install new software on their systems are especially likely to encounter this dialog. I asked Microsoft's Schare whether this should be a concern to people looking to uninstall IE7, and he quite honestly said no, that IE7 users can ignore it. The mysterious yet inconsequential dialog is initiated by the Windows Package Installer, the tool that supports incremental installation of system files for Windows Update and many other Microsoft software updating processes. Update.exe, the primary file behind the Windows Package Installer, lives in something of a version-control nightmare (once referred to as "DLL Hell"). A big part of what it does is identify and manage dependencies among different software elements and their multiple versions. Because Internet Explorer is installed directly into Windows' system files, the Windows Package Installer is the designated tool for managing IE7 install, update, and uninstall processes. So, doing what it's supposed to do, Windows Package Installer fires up a dialog that shows you all the products that have been installed in Windows since you added IE7. All it lists are possible dependencies, not known dependencies. For there to be any threat at all to the more recently installed programs the warning dialog lists, those programs would have to explicitly require a specific IE7 system file to operate properly. That's a highly unlikely scenario; it's just not smart for third-party developers to require such a specific version of Internet Explorer. It's especially unlikely for the near term, since IE7 hasn't been out long enough for software developers to create products that have inappropriate dependencies. But Schare says he believes that, even years from now, you may safely ignore this dialog when uninstalling IE7. Back to IE7: If you're going the other way and are about to install it for the first time, this software updates your Windows system files. I recommend taking a System Restore point or, better yet, making a backup of your Windows installation or entire drive prior to the installation. All previous major iterations of Internet Explorer (such as versions 5.5, 5.0, and 4.0) have presented significant problems for a percentage of the people who installed them. Because so many use Internet Explorer, a problem that affects even 4% of its users is a very large number of people. So far, IE7 is less problematic than many of its predecessors. But don't underestimate the power of an altered Microsoft browser to create problems. In the end, a product that is an absolute standard that upgrades and then is no longer a standard can be a very frustrating product indeed. The only inherent problem with IE7 is that it's not IE6. Don't let that bite you. Keep IE7 from Coming Back There is a simple, though somwewhat unintuitive, way of saying "no" to IE7 in Windows XP's Automatic Updates and making that preference permanent. These steps can also be easily adapted for use with Windows Update and Microsoft Update (in those setting, remember to always choose Custom and click on all options to reveal details). These instructions assume that IE7 is not already on your computer. If it is on your computer, you must uninstall it first. Here are the steps: 1. Change the Automatic Updates Control Panel setting to "Notify me but don't automatically download or install them." From now on, you will need to closely monitor every update that Microsoft wants to install on your computer. You will also have to pay attention to available security updates and ensure that you initiate their installation. Once you have permanently blocked IE7, you could go back and make Automoatic Updates more automatic, if you choose. But the time is past, I think, when all of us will be comfortable allowing Microsoft to choose every update for us. 2. Wait for the yellow shield icon to appear in your system tray that signifies updates are available. 3. Click the yellow icon and, if prompted, choose the "Custom Install" option, which will bring up the "Choose updates to download" dialog. 4. Look through the entire list of available updates for an entry that contains "Internet Explorer 7" or similar. As with WGA, this entry is usually the very last item, often found in a long list of other updates. Remove the check mark beside this IE7 entry and click Close. (If there are other security updates waiting to install too, leave their check marks in place; they will install.) 5. A moment or two after you click Close, another box will open labeled Hide Update. Add a check mark beside "Don't notify me about these updates again." That should do it. Hopefully I've offered a strategy that will help you deal with it while enjoying the browser you prefer. -----Original Message----- From: williams-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:williams-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Williams Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 10:19 AM To: WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Viewing DNA Results in IE7 Y'all, I wanted to pass along that although the scrolling tables cannot be currently viewing correctly in IE7, there is still a way to view the project results with IE7. On the matched groups page, you will see a printer friendly version indicated. This (not the acrobat version) works well in IE7 and is dynamically generated from the database so it is always up to date with the latest information. The only real difference between this one and the other is that the printable version just dumps all the data to a single screen, which gets a bit lengthy...while the other keeps the page scrolling down and compacts everything into a cool scrolling table setup. Enjoy! Kind regards, Adrian Adrian Williams Williams DNA Project Administrator http://williams.genealogy.fm/ http://www.dna-pat.com/ stickamw@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/20/2006 11:07:31