Scott, thank you for the information. I find this very interesting. Although I think my Williams is Scots-Irish it could still have roots in Wales. Group 20 is the only one I know of that may share a Scots-Irish decent. I think you and I share the first 12 markers. If we have any Scots-Irish Williams out there I would like to hear from you. Frank Williams Group 20 Williams DNA Project http://williams.genealogy.fm/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott K. Williams" <showmemule@earthlink.net> To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:13 AM Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Family Movie on Wales > Every family that traces its origin to Wales should see the following > movie: > > The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill But Came Down a Mountain (1995), > starring Hugh Grant, Tara Fitzgerald, Colm Meaney. (rated PG) > > The narrator begins the story: > > "For some odd reason, lost in the mists of time, there's an extraordinary > shortage of last names in Wales. Almost everyone seems to be a Williams, a > Jones, or an Evans. To avoid widespread confusion, Welsh people often add > an occupation to a name. For example, there was Williams the Petroleum, > and Williams the Death. There was Jones the Bottle, and Jones the Prize > Cabbage..." > > One reviewer does make the comment that, "Actually there is a known > reason: as part of their increased domination of Wales in the 16th > century, the English abolished the Welsh system of patronymics and > introduced surnames arbitrarily." > > The basic story begins in 1917 when two English Cartographers arrive at > the Welsh village, Ffynnon Garw, to measure the mountains height. On > British maps mountains were only depicted if they were 1000 meters or > taller, otherwise it was only a "hill". This offended the village people, > who stated that their sons were fighting and dying fighting the Germans > (in WWI) and if they came back they would find the English have taken our > mountain. "This can't happen--this is a national emergency!" > > So this movie tells the commic tale about how the village defends their > mountain. > > Last thing, Williams, the Petroleum (gas station mechanic) "is asked about > a broken part he has removed from a car, and replies "I don't know what > you call it in English, but in Welsh we call it a bechingalw". Bechingalw > means "whatjumacallit"." > > Blockbuster lists it among the 100 movies you must see before you die, and > I highly recommend anyone with roots in Wales to see it. > > --Scott Williams > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many of the Scots-Irish were really from Wales. Most were from the border country between Scotland and England. Howerever there were some from Wales and some from around London. There were also some French Protestants. We are the only ones who refer to them as "Scots-Irish, which is an apt term, i.e. Scots born in Irleand. Perhaps a better name would be Ulster Scots, or still better, "Borderers". The point is, your family could have come to this country from Northern Ireland, but still could have originally come from Wales. E. l. "Boe' Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Williams" <fwillia@bellsouth.net> To: "Scott K. Williams" <showmemule@earthlink.net>; <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Family Movie on Wales > Scott, thank you for the information. I find this very interesting. Although > I think my Williams is Scots-Irish it could still have roots in Wales. > Group 20 is the only one I know of that may share a Scots-Irish decent. I > think you and I share the first 12 markers. If we have any Scots-Irish > Williams out there I would like to hear from you. > > Frank Williams Group 20 Williams DNA Project > http://williams.genealogy.fm/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott K. Williams" <showmemule@earthlink.net> > To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:13 AM > Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Family Movie on Wales > > > > Every family that traces its origin to Wales should see the following > > movie: > > > > The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill But Came Down a Mountain (1995), > > starring Hugh Grant, Tara Fitzgerald, Colm Meaney. (rated PG) > > > > The narrator begins the story: > > > > "For some odd reason, lost in the mists of time, there's an extraordinary > > shortage of last names in Wales. Almost everyone seems to be a Williams, a > > Jones, or an Evans. To avoid widespread confusion, Welsh people often add > > an occupation to a name. For example, there was Williams the Petroleum, > > and Williams the Death. There was Jones the Bottle, and Jones the Prize > > Cabbage..." > > > > One reviewer does make the comment that, "Actually there is a known > > reason: as part of their increased domination of Wales in the 16th > > century, the English abolished the Welsh system of patronymics and > > introduced surnames arbitrarily." > > > > The basic story begins in 1917 when two English Cartographers arrive at > > the Welsh village, Ffynnon Garw, to measure the mountains height. On > > British maps mountains were only depicted if they were 1000 meters or > > taller, otherwise it was only a "hill". This offended the village people, > > who stated that their sons were fighting and dying fighting the Germans > > (in WWI) and if they came back they would find the English have taken our > > mountain. "This can't happen--this is a national emergency!" > > > > So this movie tells the commic tale about how the village defends their > > mountain. > > > > Last thing, Williams, the Petroleum (gas station mechanic) "is asked about > > a broken part he has removed from a car, and replies "I don't know what > > you call it in English, but in Welsh we call it a bechingalw". Bechingalw > > means "whatjumacallit"." > > > > Blockbuster lists it among the 100 movies you must see before you die, and > > I highly recommend anyone with roots in Wales to see it. > > > > --Scott Williams > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.16/729 - Release Date: 3/21/2007 > >