You could have saved in upgrading the last week in June as FTDNA ran a special. I'm sorry you didn't know about it...all Admins did and I sent info to all my DNA projects (10 of them now! UGH) You would have saved 25%. E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris E. Williams-Keefer" <satinlady@bellsouth.net> To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] The Vast Confusion of DNA for me > Thanks Emily, > I could only afford the 25 marker kit so I have not advanced past that > yet. > Doris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Emily" <aulicino@hevanet.com> > To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:16 AM > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] The Vast Confusion of DNA for me > > >> Doris, >> >> If you have a lot of matches with other surnames you may need to upgrade >> to >> more markers. Disregard those matches on 12 and 25 markers...especially >> since we are mostly R1b, the most common haplogroup. Seriously, just >> ignore >> matches under 37 markers with different surnames for now. R1b is so >> common >> that this happens. I have testers in my projects who match hundreds of >> people on the 12 and 25. That's not enough markers to be in genealogical >> time. See the chart below. >> >> Here's some tutorial info that can help you learn all this. >> >> Tutorial Info >> Book below can be found for under $10. Some may be in your library. >> >> Go to >> www.familytreedna.com >> Click on TUTORIALS on the right >> >> http://www.worldfamilies.net/ >> World Families Net - many topics >> >> http://www.kerchner.com/dna-info.htm >> Genetics & Genealogy - An Introduction >> Genetic Genealogy DNA Testing Dictionary >> Genetic Genealogy Glossary >> >> Wonderful beginners book on Genetic Genealogy: >> Family History in the Genes by Chris Pomery >> >> Also see if you can find in your library or used book store: >> Trace Your Roots with DNA by Megan Smolenyak and Ann Turner >> >> >> AND...here is why you can ignore surnames on few markers: >> DNA TMRCA (Time to the Most Recent Common Ancestor) >> Probability to the Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) >> 12 marker Ydna test tells you only about your most ancient >> ancestry....over >> 600 yrs ago and before surnames. The Genographic Project uses only the >> 12 >> marker for males as they are only interested in tracking the migration >> pattern of our most ancient ancestors. Their project is an >> anthropological >> study; not a genealogical one, but in time their data will help us. >> >> 25 marker match gives you a 95% probability of having a common ancestor >> within the last 600 yrs. >> 37 marker match gives you a 95% probability of having a common ancestor >> within the last 300 yrs. >> 67 marker match gives you a 95% probability of having a common ancestor >> within the last 150-200 yrs. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Doris E. Williams-Keefer" <satinlady@bellsouth.net> >> To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:42 PM >> Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] The Vast Confusion of DNA for me >> >> >>> You all sound very knowledgable and it all just goes over my head. All I >>> know is I have >>> matched with more HARRIS surnames than Williams though I have a ton of >>> other >>> surnames we've >>> matched as well. I have no idea how to even pose any of the right >>> questions >>> to the other matches >>> to find out how we might connect. >>> Though I understand genealogy and have been doing it since 1980 the dna >>> aspect leaves me in the dust. >>> >>> My brother Donald did the dna test for me >>> >>> On the dna for the 12 marker test I have several exact matches including >>> surnames of all types >>> Miller, Gildea, Knuck, Lancaster, Brown, Blanton, Carney, Lopez, colt, >>> Harris, Lay, Lavey, Emerson etc >>> >>> 12 marker test Genetic Distance -1 >>> All of these are Williams (about 10) >>> >>> On the 25 marker test I have 52 matches >>> Genetic Distance -1 there are 2 (Both Harris surnames) >>> Genetic Distance -2 there are 50 matches Some of the Surnames are York, >>> Blanton, Wooten, Hedges, Brown, Roberts, Pruner, Venters, Wilkins, >>> Lewis, >>> Savins, Farren, McFall, Hefner, Allen, Dahn, Duhe, Shular, Tierney, >>> Matheson,Wright, Jones, Stone, and one Williams. >>> >>> I really don't get it at all. I mean I can understand some distant >>> grandma >>> messing around with a Harris if that was the case no problem with me... >>> but how can anyone match all these surnames? >>> Is it for instance because say a Hefner married into the Williams >>> family >>> and so a desc of the Hefner matches partially or ??? >>> >>> Anyone's help putting this into a little clearer english for me..would >>> be >>> a >>> big help. I realize the dna is not for telling me exactly who my great >>> grandfather was etc >>> and that it's just a path to follow to prove genealogy work already done >>> but >>> it just seems such a confused mess to me at this point that I haven't >>> contacted any of the matches.. I'm not dumb, stupid, or incapable of >>> understanding most things but I feel that way every time I try to figure >>> DNA >>> out haha. >>> >>> The earliest Williams I know is George Williams born in 1800 Georgia >>> married >>> Betsy Ann Carroll b. 1803 in Georgia . They married in 1821 in Madison >>> County, Alabama. Most of my Williams lived and died around Lincoln >>> County, >>> TN and Madison and Limestone Counties in Alabama. >>> George died about 1855 probably in Lincoln County, TN and Elizabeth >>> "Betsy" >>> Carroll Williams died in 1875/1876 Lincoln County, TN. They had 13 >>> children. >>> I wish the DNA was on my Taber side almost. I have it back to the >>> original >>> immigrant ancestor Philip Taber/Tabor b. 1605 then I'd be able to grasp >>> it >>> all a bit easier I guess because I know more of the line. >>> >>> Thanks for reading my vent ...I feel better even if I don't understand >>> more >>> yet. >>> Doris E. 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