David, Could you please cite some of your historical facts and give a citation from the Tennessee S. C. Especially the historical writings that support this. In my research I have found little to support that there was little choice as to who married whom. It would be great to have some factual information. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Jones" <drdjones@hughes.net> To: "Joyce Leo" <joyceleo@wildblue.net>; <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Family Tree DNA - we do genetictestsforyourgenealogy questions! > That is the fantasy. The Cherokee rarely intermarried with whites and > almost > never with Africans. That is also a fantasy. The history writings of the > time refute anything else > There is no doubt that white men occasionally married Cherokee women--not > official marriage since it was illegal--but not very many did. The > records > of the Tennessee Supreme Court attest to that fact.. I would love to see a > cite on this! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joyce Leo" <joyceleo@wildblue.net> > To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 12:30 PM > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Family Tree DNA - we do genetic > testsforyourgenealogy questions! > > >> The Cherokee intermarried all the time, and from an early time in >> the history of the meetings of Cherokee maidens and white men who >> came into their territory. Even Nancy Ward, the great and last >> "Beloved Woman" of the Cherokee married a white man, and she was >> no traitor to her people or their "constitution", which by the >> way I don't think they had. Sequoyah introduced the Cherokee >> alphabet to the entire Cherokee tribe in the 1820's and they had >> their first printing press and publications in the late 1820's >> and early 1830's, just as Andrew Jackson was drawing up expulsion >> papers to rid the entire area of all the Indians. The >> intermarriages took place in the 1600's, 1700's, 1800's and still >> are taking place. The descendants of these intermarriages are >> very plentiful today all over the country, "constitution" or no >> constitution. I have plenty of Cherokee blood running in my >> Williams line. >> >> Joyce Williams Leo >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Jones" <drdjones@hughes.net> >> To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com>; "Williams DNA" >> <Williams-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 11:32 AM >> Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Family Tree DNA - we do genetic tests >> foryourgenealogy questions! >> >> >> If you look at the Melungeon data in its entirety, the "core" >> Melungeons are >> usually African in the male line. The other Melungeon lines such >> as Mullins >> usually have a wife who comes from one of the core families. So >> far none, >> if any, of the Melungeons lines has an Indian in the male or >> female line. >> This seems to be supported by the books and newspapers of the >> late 1700s to >> the early 1800s which show that the Indians were not friendly, >> and the >> Cherokees in their constitution forbid marriages to other races. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "V Williams" <m5x95@sbcglobal.net> >> To: "Williams DNA" <Williams-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 11:14 AM >> Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Family Tree DNA - we do genetic tests for >> yourgenealogy questions! >> >> >>> http://www.familytreedna.com/surname.aspx >>> >>> If you take a look at this site, it has all the DNA results, >>> look at >>> the "M" for Melungeon We have 1 DNA match for a male by name of >>> Mullins. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message