The following new message has been added to the Williams Genealogy Forums, on the Williams DNA Project board under the existing topic of Re: Recruiting Participants in the UK/Wales... -------------------------------- This is an excellent question and a worthwhile effort, in my opinion. I think the solution is to "get local". What I mean by that is, the most active genealogy message servers and websites for the UK and Wales are at the County level. I subscribe to the Anglesey county (Wales) genealogy message service, for example. There are several messages there each week, with "Williams" frequently appearing. With a surname as common as Williams, there is no reason for me to subscribe to a Wales-wide message service. Therefore, I think a concise message to each Wales/UK county message board might get some new recruits. I already tried to drum up some interest in Williams DNA a few months back on the Anglesey board. Hard to know if we got any new members as a result. There were only a couple responses to my message. One person was concerned about discovering private family secrets such as illegitimate children. I responded that this would be good information to have!

The following new message has been added to the Williams Genealogy Forums, on the Williams DNA Project board under the existing topic of Re: How to get those in a group to communicate??... -------------------------------- Thomas, You bring up a very good point and a common concern for many folks. We should not have to worry about spambots (the programmatic robots that scour the internet and harvest email addresses) for one simple reason. The email address are all stored in a data base and the only way to get them out is to run the webpage itself, which then runs a small piece of programming to "select" that information from the database. The spambots cannot run the webpages...they can only look at existing html code and pull from that. And, they cannot read from a database. I hope this helps to quell anyone's fear about spam! It has long been a concern of mine and I make many efforts to protect everyone from it. - Adrian

The following new message has been added to the Williams Genealogy Forums, on the Williams DNA Project board under the existing topic of Re: How to get those in a group to communicate??... -------------------------------- I am glad to see efforts to spur more communications between members and other researchers. One concern regarding email lists though, Adrian... You may want to consider ways to prevent spammers from getting this information. They use some sophisticated techniques to gather email addresses from anywhere on the internet. Some websites disguise email addresses as graphic files, rather than ASCI. Apparently this prevents spyware and other tools from automatically gathering email addresses. For an example of this, go to Rootsweb, select any surname forum, click on a message submitter's name, and look at their email address. I hope that's helpful :)

I don't have any problem having you post my email address, but I suggest that they put Williams DNA in their address line. I have my spamblocker set to high and if I don't recognize the name or the subject they automatically get deleted. I'm sure that I'm not the only one that does this, so a little precaution can save time. As far as name and address being listed, as long as it is for members only, I don't have a problem. I would not like to have it open to the general public. Ideas for getting Welsh volunteers: Have you considered contacting the County Archivists? I've found some of them to be very responsive. Maybe they could suggest ways of advertising the project. They might have bulletin boards whey they could post a flyer. Also there are county sites where you could post information about our project. Does Family Tree take British pounds? There would have to be an easy way for them to pay for it and we should know what the test costs in pounds before we try to recruit. Lynda

Yeah, I have actually posted in the past to the Williams-UK mailing list, and am a subscriber...but that list is usually VERY quiet...not much traffic on it and never received any responses to my inquiries. Catherine Cooper has put some feelers out to some UK contacts and I had an idea about publishing an article or two with the Welsh/UK Genealogy periodicals/societies. So, we'll see where this goes..... - Adrian Doris E. Williams-Keefer wrote: > perhaps post on a uk genforum or same type board? > Doris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <wwwuser@yourhostingaccount.com> > To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:09 AM > Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] New Topic Posted in the Williams Genealogy Forums! > > > >> The following new message has been added to the Williams DNA Project board >> under the new topic of Recruiting Participants in the UK/Wales... >> >> >> -------------------------------- >> >> Y'all, >> >> I have been stymied for some time now with a major challenge our >> project has: recruiting participants from Wales/UK. >> >> Considering that probably at least 90% of our ancestors originated >> in Wales/UK, it only seems smart to try to get UK participation in the >> project. And, considering that at one point, Williams was THE most >> common surname in Wales/UK, one would think it would be easy to get >> participants. >> >> Trick is how? Being smack dab in the middle of the US, with >> little contact with anyone across the pond, I am stumped on how to >> encourage participation from over there. >> >> So, I ask all of you.....what can we do with this? >> >> - Adrian >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 9/22/2006 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

By the pricking of my thumbs, Some fresh DNA this way comes; Get those Walees to participate, So we may know to whom we relate.

The following new message has been added to the Williams Genealogy Forums, on the Williams DNA Project board under the existing topic of Re: How to get those in a group to communicate??... -------------------------------- Lynda and Gerri, You bring up an excellent point. Part of the whole reason to participate in the testing is to make contact with other folks who descend from the same ancestry as yourself, in hopes of fleshing out your genealogies. To take the test and then remain silent is both confusing and a waste of money! In the process of getting the project tracking spreadsheet I use converted to a database, I am having to rewrite the results pages. At one point, i put the question out there about publicising everyones email address...and the overwhelming response was "yes". So, in the next iteration of the results pages, I am going to make each persons kit number link to their email address. This way, every person has a way to be contacted about their kit. Another idea I have that would require A LOT of feedback from EVERYONE is to put together a contact sheet for the participants, which would have address and phone numbers of all the project participants, and make that available to y'all. I am thinking that this would help provide more avenues of communication. Finally, I have started creating new Forum boards just for the matched groups to have a place to converse. I put them in the forums because there are a large number of folks who are not project participants who are VERY interested in the families involved with the testing and the group conversations being public may also help spurn conversation. Just to give you an idea of how many people are here, the Forums averages about 4,000 hits each month. How many of those are cousins? Thoughts? - Adrian

The following new message has been added to the Williams DNA Project board under the new topic of Recruiting Participants in the UK/Wales... -------------------------------- Y'all, I have been stymied for some time now with a major challenge our project has: recruiting participants from Wales/UK. Considering that probably at least 90% of our ancestors originated in Wales/UK, it only seems smart to try to get UK participation in the project. And, considering that at one point, Williams was THE most common surname in Wales/UK, one would think it would be easy to get participants. Trick is how? Being smack dab in the middle of the US, with little contact with anyone across the pond, I am stumped on how to encourage participation from over there. So, I ask all of you.....what can we do with this? - Adrian

Hi all, First, apologies for the cross postings. Also, I'm having trouble subscribing to the Staffordshire list, so if anyone can post this to that list it would be appreciated. We are looking for descendants of William and Mary. William's uncle, Henry Caleb Williams, is my direct ancestor. William James Williams, born 1848 Wolverhampton, son of James Williams and Sarah (m.s. Evans), married Mary (m.s. Taylor) born abt 1852 at Wiltonhall, Staffs, married 1877 Aston, Warwick. Their children were Roland James Williams b. 1879 Aston, Warwick; Edith Fanny Williams, b. 1880, Aston, Warwick; Ethel Mary Williams, b. 1882 Handsworth, Staffs; Harold E. Williams b. 1885, Handsworth, Staffs, Dorothy Williams, b. 1887, Handsworth, Staffs. Many thanks for any information. Regards, Jenny in sunny Queensland, Australia. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 9/22/2006

perhaps post on a uk genforum or same type board? Doris ----- Original Message ----- From: <wwwuser@yourhostingaccount.com> To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:09 AM Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] New Topic Posted in the Williams Genealogy Forums! > The following new message has been added to the Williams DNA Project board > under the new topic of Recruiting Participants in the UK/Wales... > > > -------------------------------- > > Y'all, > > I have been stymied for some time now with a major challenge our > project has: recruiting participants from Wales/UK. > > Considering that probably at least 90% of our ancestors originated > in Wales/UK, it only seems smart to try to get UK participation in the > project. And, considering that at one point, Williams was THE most > common surname in Wales/UK, one would think it would be easy to get > participants. > > Trick is how? Being smack dab in the middle of the US, with > little contact with anyone across the pond, I am stumped on how to > encourage participation from over there. > > So, I ask all of you.....what can we do with this? > > - Adrian > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 9/22/2006 >

May I second this remark! It is great! For those who do not like it, just delete the mail or set a rule to auto delete. Thanks Adrian Duncan Rea Williams -----Original Message----- From: williams-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:williams-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pjpeters2@aol.com Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 1:44 AM To: WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Thank You Adrian & Congratulations Adrian, We all know that it takes work to get things straightened out & appreciate what you are doing, looks like it is working now....If anyone does mind the additional mail, there is always a delete button, but hope they don't ruin it for those of us who do appreciate it... Thank you again, Peggy Williams Peterson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Adrian, We all know that it takes work to get things straightened out & appreciate what you are doing, looks like it is working now....If anyone does mind the additional mail, there is always a delete button, but hope they don't ruin it for those of us who do appreciate it... Thank you again, Peggy Williams Peterson

The following new message has been added to the Williams DNA Project board under the new topic of The Marriage of the Forums and the WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List!!... -------------------------------- Y'all, Boy, sometimes I think I know how Dr. Frankenstein felt......I've received a lot of positive feedback about setting the site up so that anytime a message is posted on these Forums, it is duplicated to the mailing list. And the message y'all are sending me is clear...MAKE IT SO!! So, I have played with the program code for the Forums, added some extra stuff and think that I now have it working!! As many of you noticed late this evening when a flurry of funky looking messages came your way, I had a couple of bugs to work out!! However, it is working now!! A couple of items....one: watch out what you ask for....this will increase the amount of email you receive from the mailing list. two: you cannot reply back to the Forums...there really isn't much of any way for me to set that one up. If you see a message you are interested in, you will have to answer it in the forums. If anyone notices any problems with this, be sure to let me know! - Adrian

The following new message has been added to the Williams Genealogy Forums, on the Williams DNA Project board under the existing topic of Re: The Marriage of the Forums and the WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List!!... -------------------------------- And yet....t'was only wishful thinkin' that the 3rd time would've gotting is....and so....another attempt at getting this....again, I am sorry for clogging your email up with this!!! - Adrian

The following new message has been added to the Williams Genealogy Forums, on the Williams DNA Project board under the existing topic of Re: The Marriage of the Forums and the WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List!!... -------------------------------- Y&#039;all, OK, maybe the third time&#039;s the charm! It was really close last time, but all of the apostrophies were missed by the correction code...so I&#039;ve gone in an added that little tidbit and am trying this again! With any luck, this&#039;ll take care of it and the function will be good to go!! - Adrian

The following new message has been added to the Williams Genealogy Forums, on the Williams DNA Project board under the existing topic of Re: The Marriage of the Forums and the WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List!!... -------------------------------- And, just like ol&#039; Frank, the first time around wasn&#039;t very pretty..... What y&#039;all saw was the result of a conflict from an html based message being plugged thru a text-only engine...so instead of seeing what you&#039;re supposed to, you got all the html codes behind the special characters. So, I have added another little piece of code to try to remedy this....but the only way for me to test it is to keep trying this list...my own email translates the codes so sending it to myself instead of the list doesn&#039;t help!! I apprecaite your patience as I get this ironed out!! - Adrian

The following new message has been added to the Williams DNA Project board under the new topic of The Marriage of the Forums and the WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List!!... -------------------------------- Y\&#039;all,<br /><br />&nbsp; Boy, sometimes I think I know how Dr. Frankenstein felt......I\&#039;ve received a lot of positive feedback about setting the site up so that anytime a message is posted on these Forums, it is duplicated to the mailing list.&nbsp; <br /><br />&nbsp; And the message y\&#039;all are sending me is clear...MAKE IT SO!!<br /><br />&nbsp; So, I have played with the program code for the Forums, added some extra stuff and think that I now have it working!!<br /><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; A couple of items....one:&nbsp; watch out what you ask for....this will increase the amount of email you receive from the mailing list.&nbsp; two:&nbsp; you cannot reply back to the Forums...there really isn\&#039;t much of any way for me to set that one up.&nbsp; If you see a message you are interested in, you will have to answer it in the forums.&nbsp; <br /><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; If anyone notices any problems with this, be sure to let me know!<br /><br />- Adrian

I think that this would be a wonderful thing, I know I would certainly like to read them all......and coming thru the mailing list would be the easiest for me & more also.... Hope you can make it work, appreciate all you do for us....Peggy Williams Peterson Y'all, > > As I was posting to the Forums, a copy of the message that I sent to > this mailing list, it struck me that I ought to figure out a way to have > it setup so that anytime anyone posts a message to the Forums that it > automatically gets sent the mailing list. > > If I can figure out a way to do this, would it be a welcomed change?

I could live with RSS feed which of the 7 do you propose to use? George Williams

Adrian: Thanks for all your hard work!!! Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Williams" <stickamw@earthlink.net> To: <WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 10:14 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] DNA Results Page - Making Some Much Needed Changes > Y'all, > > As most of you probably don't know, the results page that you see on > the website is actually a portion of the overall project spreadsheet > that I have been keeping on the project since day one. The problem is, > because of the growth of the project, the sheet has just about become > unmanageable. It is a real beast to keep updated and getting the > information from the sheet to the website is a very manual and > time-intensive exercise. > > So, I am going to spend the next couple of weeks working on > converting the sheet over to a database. This is going to take a bit of > time and more than likely, I won't post any results for the next couple > weeks while I get this done. > > Probably the biggest thing you will notice by my doing this is that > results that come in will be displayed immediately on the website...they > won't languish for a couple weeks waiting for me to get them transferred > to the website. I will be writing PHP code to pull the data from the > database any time the DNA results page is hit. This is a much better > way to do it and one I should have done a long time ago. > > So, I appreciate everyone's patience as I make this happen. > > - Adrian > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >