Malissa, Actually, no we have not seen any X haplo's in the project to date. By far, the huge majority of testers have been R1b with a sizable showing from both the "I" and "G" haplogroups. Kind regards, Adrian Adrian Williams Williams DNA Project Administrator http://williams.genealogy.fm/ http://www.dna-pat.com/ stickamw@earthlink.net Malisa Hodges wrote: > Are there any Williams in the Haplogroup X? > > Malisa Hodges > Independent Associate > http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/malisahodges > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Need a timeframe. Children? Any Parentage. J.Carr -------------- Original message -------------- From: wwwuser@yourhostingaccount.com > The following new message has been added to the Williams Genealogy board under > the new topic of looking for john a. williams and sylvia roark... > > > -------------------------------- > > need all the info i can get on john a. williams and his wife syliva > roark, they were from henderson ill. thank you. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Are there any Williams in the Haplogroup X? Malisa Hodges Independent Associate http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/malisahodges

The following new message has been added to the Williams Genealogy board under the new topic of looking for john a. williams and sylvia roark... -------------------------------- need all the info i can get on john a. williams and his wife syliva roark, they were from henderson ill. thank you.

The following new message has been added to the Group 23 board under the new topic of Descendants of David Williams... -------------------------------- As far back as I can prove on my line is David Williams of NC. In my database I've gone back farther with the World Family Tree but I'm not positive. I'm still looking for documentation. "Descendants of David Williams Generation No. 1 1. DAVID7 WILLIAMS (WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born Abt. 1760 in Edgecombe Co. NC, and died Abt. 1834 in Akron, Greene Co. ALA. He married MARTHA IVEY Abt. 1785, daughter of PETER IVEY. She was born 1762 in Wake Co. NC, and died 1858 in Akron, Greene Co., AL. Children of DAVID WILLIAMS and MARTHA IVEY are: 2. i. HENRY8 WILLIAMS, b. November 03, 1788, NC; d. August 11, 1854. 3. ii. ELIAS WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1789, NC. 4. iii. CHARLES WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1792, NC; d. February 19, 1852, Greene Co. AL. 5. iv. DELONA WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1798, NC. 6. v. MARY A. WILLIAMS, b. January 07, 1800, Wake Co. NC; d. August 01, 1860. 7. vi. MARTHA WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1805, NC; d. 1880, Hale Co. AL. 8. vii. LEAVICEY WILLIAMS, b. September 16, 1810, Anson Co. NC. Generation No. 2 2. HENRY8 WILLIAMS (DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born November 03, 1788 in NC, and died August 11, 1854. He married NANCY HENSON July 10, 1806. She was born April 06, 1790 in NC, and died August 30, 1852. Children of HENRY WILLIAMS and NANCY HENSON are: i. WILLIAMSON9 WILLIAMS, b. September 18, 1808, NC; d. September 10, 1863. ii. DAVID WILLIAMS, b. February 27, 1810, NC. 9. iii. BENJAMIN WILLIAMS, b. December 20, 1811, NC; d. June 10, 1870. 10. iv. THOMAS G. WILLIAMS, b. February 22, 1814, AL. v. MAPEY WILLIAMS, b. June 17, 1816. 11. vi. CHARLES H. WILLIAMS, b. December 04, 1818, TN; d. October 20, 1898, Lafayette Co., MS. 12. vii. JOHN G. WILLIAMS, b. March 03, 1821, AL. 13. viii. SARAH A. (SALLY) WILLIAMS, b. March 10, 1823, AL. 14. ix. NOAH WILLIAMS, b. March 03, 1825, AL. x. HARRIS P. WILLIAMS, b. October 03, 1827, AL. xi. MARY WILLIAMS, b. August 17, 1830, AL; d. August 16, 1851. xii. MADISON F. WILLIAMS, b. June 21, 1833, ALA. 3. ELIAS8 WILLIAMS (DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born Abt. 1789 in NC. He married SARAH (WILLIAMS). She was born Abt. 1788 in NC. Children of ELIAS WILLIAMS and SARAH (WILLIAMS) are: i. MARGARET9 WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1827, AL. ii. WILLIAM WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1829, AL. 4. CHARLES8 WILLIAMS (DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born Abt. 1792 in NC, and died February 19, 1852 in Greene Co. AL. He married (1) ELIZABETH HARRIS 1814, daughter of JOHN HARRIS and MARY WILLIAMS. She was born 1792, and died 1830 in Greene Co. AL. He married (2) JACKY M. WIGGINS June 03, 1836 in Greene Co. AL. She was born Abt. 1807 in NC. Children of CHARLES WILLIAMS and JACKY WIGGINS are: i. CHARLES L.9 WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1837, AL. ii. JONATHAN W. WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1840, AL. iii. TEMPEY WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1847, AL. 5. DELONA8 WILLIAMS (DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born Abt. 1798 in NC. She married JONATHAN HADDOX. He was born Abt. 1793 in SC. Children of DELONA WILLIAMS and JONATHAN HADDOX are: i. SUSAN9 HADDOX, b. Abt. 1824, AL. ii. AMOS HADDOX, b. Abt. 1831, AL. iii. ROBERT HADDOX, b. Abt. 1833, AL. iv. MARTHA HADDOX, b. Abt. 1835, AL. v. SARAH HADDOX, b. Abt. 1836, AL. vi. WILLIS HADDOX, b. Abt. 1839, MS. vii. MASSIE HADDOX, b. Abt. 1840, MS. 6. MARY A.8 WILLIAMS (DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born January 07, 1800 in Wake Co. NC, and died August 01, 1860. She married PAGE WILLIAMS HARRIS, son of JOHN HARRIS and MARY WILLIAMS. He was born March 18, 1795 in Wake Co. NC, and died 1887 in Hale Co. AL. Children of MARY WILLIAMS and PAGE HARRIS are: 15. i. ELIZA9 HARRIS, b. July 04, 1820, AL; d. February 15, 1897. ii. LUINCY P. HARRIS, b. Abt. 1827, AL. iii. JOHN G. HARRIS, b. Abt. 1833, AL. iv. NANCY E. HARRIS, b. Abt. 1837, AL. v. JULIA A. HARRIS, b. Abt. 1839, AL. vi. EVAN P. HARRIS, b. Abt. 1842, AL. 7. MARTHA8 WILLIAMS (DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born Abt. 1805 in NC, and died 1880 in Hale Co. AL. She married JOSEPH HENSON DAVIS December 28, 1826 in Greene Co. AL. He was born Abt. 1795 in NC, and died 1850. Children of MARTHA WILLIAMS and JOSEPH DAVIS are: i. MARGARET9 DAVIS, b. Abt. 1830, AL. ii. JOHN L. DAVIS, b. Abt. 1831, AL. iii. MARTHA W. DAVIS, b. Abt. 1832, AL. iv. WILLIAM D. DAVIS, b. Abt. 1833, AL. v. LOUISA S. DAVIS, b. Abt. 1834, AL. vi. GEORGE W. DAVIS, b. Abt. 1835, AL. vii. NANCY M. DAVIS, b. Abt. 1836, AL. viii. LEONORA F. DAVIS, b. Abt. 1837, AL. ix. BENJAMIN N. DAVIS, b. Abt. 1840, AL. x. JAMES H. DAVIS, b. Abt. 1842, AL. 8. LEAVICEY8 WILLIAMS (DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born September 16, 1810 in Anson Co. NC. She married WILLIAM HARRIS, son of JOHN HARRIS and MARY WILLIAMS. He was born September 19, 1806 in Wake Co. NC. Child of LEAVICEY WILLIAMS and WILLIAM HARRIS is: i. MARTHA9 HARRIS, b. Abt. 1830, AL. Generation No. 3 9. BENJAMIN9 WILLIAMS (HENRY8, DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born December 20, 1811 in NC, and died June 10, 1870. He married ELIZA HARRIS December 31, 1835 in Greene Co. AL, daughter of PAGE HARRIS and MARY WILLIAMS. She was born July 04, 1820 in AL, and died February 15, 1897. Children of BENJAMIN WILLIAMS and ELIZA HARRIS are: 16. i. GREENBERRY10 WILLIAMS, b. April 01, 1837. ii. NANCY ELLEN WILLIAMS, b. July 29, 1855. 10. THOMAS G.9 WILLIAMS (HENRY8, DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born February 22, 1814 in AL. He married JANET ELLIOTT December 10, 1836 in Greene Co. AL. She was born Abt. 1818 in AL. Children of THOMAS WILLIAMS and JANET ELLIOTT are: i. HENRY10 WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1837, AL. ii. MARY WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1841, AL. iii. ELIZA WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1846, AL. iv. MARGARET WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1848, AL. 11. CHARLES H.9 WILLIAMS (HENRY8, DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born December 04, 1818 in TN, and died October 20, 1898 in Lafayette Co., MS. He married MARGARET PETTEY, daughter of JAMES PETTY. She was born March 13, 1816 in GA, and died November 03, 1885 in MS. Notes for CHARLES H. WILLIAMS: ~B NAME: Charles H. Williams ~b Buried Lafayette Co.,MS,Abbeville Cemetery,located,left of HWY 7, north of Abbeville. Notes for MARGARET PETTEY: ~B NAME: Margret (Williams) ~b Buried Abbeville Cemetery, Lafayette Co., MS, located left of HWY 7, North of Abbeville,MS. Children of CHARLES WILLIAMS and MARGARET PETTEY are: i. SARAH ANN10 WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1840, Ala.. 17. ii. MALISSA J. WILLIAMS, b. November 26, 1843, Ala.. iii. JAMES PETTEY WILLIAMS, b. October 16, 1845, Ala.; d. June 18, 1864, Rock Island, Illinois. Notes for JAMES PETTEY WILLIAMS: BIO:C.S.A. soldier- Enlisted by Lt. Turner at Abbeville,MS,02-19-1862. Captured in Battle of Lookout Mountain, TN,11-24-1863.Sent to Louisville,KY military prison 11-30-1863. Transferred to Rock Island Illinois prison 12-05-1863. Died of pneumonia 06-18-1864. Buried in grave number 234 south of prison barracks. 18. iv. NOAH HEZEKIAH WILLIAMS, b. November 02, 1846, Ala.; d. November 29, 1908, Williamson Co. TX. v. MARTIN B. WILLIAMS, b. October 21, 1848, Ala.; d. April 27, 1905, Lafayette Co., MS. Notes for MARTIN B. WILLIAMS: Buried Abbeville Cemetery, Lafayette Co.,MS 19. vi. MARTHA E. WILLIAMS, b. August 28, 1852, Lafayette Co. MS; d. September 24, 1926, MS. 20. vii. MARY S. WILLIAMS, b. February 28, 1856, Lafayette Co. MS; d. September 16, 1932, MS. 12. JOHN G.9 WILLIAMS (HENRY8, DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born March 03, 1821 in AL. He married LEODICA HARRIS July 21, 1846 in Greene Co. AL. She was born Abt. 1821 in AL. Child of JOHN WILLIAMS and LEODICA HARRIS is: i. LUWINCY10 WILLIAMS, b. March 20, 1848; d. January 30, 1852. 13. SARAH A. (SALLY)9 WILLIAMS (HENRY8, DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born March 10, 1823 in AL. She married THOMAS BARBER. He died January 04, 1848. Children of SARAH WILLIAMS and THOMAS BARBER are: i. FRANCY ELLEN10 BARBER, b. August 11, 1845, ALA. ii. JOHN THOMAS BARBER, b. September 21, 1847, ALA. 14. NOAH9 WILLIAMS (HENRY8, DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born March 03, 1825 in AL. He married JANE H. (WILLIAMS). She was born Abt. 1832 in AL. Child of NOAH WILLIAMS and JANE (WILLIAMS) is: i. HARRIS P.10 WILLIAMS, b. August 1850, AL. 15. ELIZA9 HARRIS (MARY A.8 WILLIAMS, DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born July 04, 1820 in AL, and died February 15, 1897. She married BENJAMIN WILLIAMS December 31, 1835 in Greene Co. AL, son of HENRY WILLIAMS and NANCY HENSON. He was born December 20, 1811 in NC, and died June 10, 1870. Children are listed above under (9) Benjamin Williams. Generation No. 4 16. GREENBERRY10 WILLIAMS (BENJAMIN9, HENRY8, DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born April 01, 1837. He married MOLLY S. BARBER October 25, 1866. Child of GREENBERRY WILLIAMS and MOLLY BARBER is: i. JAMES H.11 WILLIAMS, b. January 28, 1868. 17. MALISSA J.10 WILLIAMS (CHARLES H.9, HENRY8, DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born November 26, 1843 in Ala.. She married WILLIAM A. WILSON December 09, 1858 in Abbeville, MS, son of GEORGE WILSON and ELIZA KNOX. He was born December 1836 in TN. Child of MALISSA WILLIAMS and WILLIAM WILSON is: i. CHARLES11 WILSON, b. Abt. 1859, MS. 18. NOAH HEZEKIAH10 WILLIAMS (CHARLES H.9, HENRY8, DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born November 02, 1846 in Ala., and died November 29, 1908 in Williamson Co. TX. He married NANCY MATHILDE WILSON November 04, 1866 in Lafayette Co. MS, daughter of GEORGE WILSON and ELIZA KNOX. She was born February 10, 1851 in Abbeville MS, and died May 29, 1932 in Granger, WilliamsonCo., TX. Notes for NOAH HEZEKIAH WILLIAMS: BIO:He was a confederate soldier in the Civil War. A private in Company C, 34th Regiment Mississippi Infantry. He enlisted 03-03-1862, at Abbeville,MS.He was in the Army of Tennessee at Chickamauga,GA and the Chattanooga Campaign. He was captured on Lookout Mountain 11-24-1863 and imprisoned at Rock Island,Illinois.Transferred for exchange 03-20-1865. He was paroled at Holly Springs,MS,05-30-1865. Children of NOAH WILLIAMS and NANCY WILSON are: i. WILLIE KNOX11 WILLIAMS, b. August 24, 1867, Lafayette Co.MS; d. November 12, 1941, Glidden, Colorado, Co., TX; m. (1) MARY COOPER WIMBISH, December 29, 1886, Lafayette Co., MS; b. January 26, 1869; d. May 10, 1888, Lafayette Co., MS; m. (2) JULIA ETTA MAJOR, December 04, 1889, Union Co. MS; b. June 24, 1869, Rocky Ford, Pontotoc Co. MS; d. June 21, 1925, Granger, WilliamsonCo., TX. Notes for WILLIE KNOX WILLIAMS: BIO:Buried Granger City Cemetary, Granger, Williamson Co,TX ,m ~B DATE OF DEATH: 11-12-1941 ~b Buried Granger City Cemetery,Granger,Williamson County,Texas Notes for MARY COOPER WIMBISH: Buried Abbeville Cemetery,Lafayette Co.,MS Notes for JULIA ETTA MAJOR: BIO:Buried Granger City Cemetary, Granger, Williamson Co., TX ii. MARY R. WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1868, Lafayette Co. MS. iii. ETTA WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1872, Lafayette Co. MS. iv. MAGGIE R. WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1874, Lafayette Co. MS; d. Abt. 1941, Granger TX; m. WILLIAM SAMIE ROBY, December 21, 1890, Lafayette Co. MS. v. BILLIE WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1876, Lafayette Co. MS. vi. LEONA WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1878, Lafayette Co.MS. vii. HATTIE WILLIAMS, b. May 1879, Lafayette Co. MS; d. March 02, 1928, Granger TX. viii. CARRIE WILLIAMS, b. January 1881, Lafayette Co., MS. ix. EDDIE CEBE WILLIAMS, b. October 22, 1887, Lafayette Co. MS; d. November 29, 1961, Beaumont, TX; m. DELLA WHITE, Granger, TX. x. CLYDE HOUSTON WILLIAMS, b. April 1890, Lafayette Co. MS; d. Bef. 2000; m. JENNIE (UNKNOWN); b. Abt. 1890, LA. 19. MARTHA E.10 WILLIAMS (CHARLES H.9, HENRY8, DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born August 28, 1852 in Lafayette Co. MS, and died September 24, 1926 in MS. She married WILLIAM R. R. SLOAN October 06, 1868 in Lafayette Co. MS. He was born June 15, 1846 in SC, and died December 16, 1923 in MS. Children of MARTHA WILLIAMS and WILLIAM SLOAN are: i. CURTIS MARGRET11 SLOAN, b. September 07, 1869, MS; d. August 17, 1895, MS. ii. V. E. SLOAN, b. Abt. 1872, MS. iii. MARY ANN SLOAN, b. Abt. 1875, MS. iv. ROBERT H. SLOAN, b. Abt. 1877, MS. v. WILLIE W. SLOAN, b. October 15, 1879, MS; d. July 02, 1905, MS. 20. MARY S.10 WILLIAMS (CHARLES H.9, HENRY8, DAVID7, WILLIAM6, SAMUEL5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born February 28, 1856 in Lafayette Co. MS, and died September 16, 1932 in MS. She married WILLIAM M. GOODWIN November 22, 1872 in Lafayette Co. MS. He was born September 18, 1843 in MS, and died September 04, 1927 in MS. Children of MARY WILLIAMS and WILLIAM GOODWIN are: i. WILLIAM E.11 GOODWIN, b. 1875, MS; d. 1943, MS. ii. CHARLES ELIJAH GOODWIN, b. February 25, 1880, Lafayette Co. MS; d. September 20, 1949, MS."

The following new message has been added to the Williams Genealogy board under the new topic of Duplin County, NC WILLIAMS... -------------------------------- Marriages James WILLIAMS m. Rebecca HOUSTON daughter of Edward HOUSTON gdau of Dr. William HOUSTON searching for who James WILLIAMS parents are? William HOUSTON m. Shelby WILLIAMS Searching for parents o f Shelby Williams Henry HOUSTON m. Mary WILLIAMS Searching for parents of Mary Williams Tabitha WILLIAMS d/o of Robert Williams, JR. & Mary HARPER Williams m. MAJOR George Eustace HOUSTON in 1813. TIA

Years and places help a lot with this type thing, especially approximate dates. When looking on ancestry.com I noticed this is very important. Even Married about 1800 or married about 1855 etc. Doris ----- Original Message ----- From: <wwwuser@yourhostingaccount.com> To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 8:43 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] From The Forums! - Duplin County, NC WILLIAMS > The following new message has been added to the Williams Genealogy board > under the new topic of Duplin County, NC WILLIAMS... > > > -------------------------------- > > Marriages James WILLIAMS m. Rebecca HOUSTON daughter of Edward HOUSTON > gdau of Dr. William HOUSTON > searching for who James WILLIAMS parents are? > > William HOUSTON m. Shelby WILLIAMS Searching for parents o f Shelby > Williams > > Henry HOUSTON m. Mary WILLIAMS Searching for parents of Mary Williams > > Tabitha WILLIAMS d/o of Robert Williams, JR. & Mary HARPER Williams > m. MAJOR George Eustace HOUSTON in 1813. > TIA > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.25/593 - Release Date: > 12/19/2006 > >

The following new message has been added to the Williams Genealogy Forums, on the General Chit-Chat board under the existing topic of Re: Williams genealogy success after 15 years... -------------------------------- Carol, Way to go. So happy for you and your find. Just goes to show us never, ever give up-Right?

For all of you wil IE7 Problems here is an exerpt from Scot's Newletter on the problems. Living with (or Without) Internet Explorer 7 I've received reports from many Scot's Newsletter and Computerworld readers about compatibility issues between IE7 and, especially, Web-based ASP products and proprietary or customized enterprise apps. It's been a five-year run for IE6; the Web developers who serve the business world appear to have moved in for the long haul. As a result, my best advice for most business users of Internet Explorer at this point is to stick with IE6 for a while, or switch at least temporarily to Firefox 2.0 or Opera 9. If you've made the switch to IE7 and don't want to go back (and I can't blame you; I prefer IE7 too), the compatibility issues emphasize a key drawback of the new IE you should think through. By upgrading to IE7, you've lost a key safety net that Windows-based Firefox and Opera fans enjoy: They can always fall back on IE6 to load a site or Web-based app that doesn't work correctly in their preferred browsers. But if you're using IE7, you can't just fire up IE6 for compatibility reasons. You're stuck. I talked to Microsoft's director of IE product management, Gary Schare, about this issue. Microsoft has just last week began offering an answer that lets you keep IE6 at your beck and call while you run IE7. I've tested it, and the solutions, which relies on virtualization, works fine. Microsoft made its desktop virtualization tool, Virtual PC 2004 SP1, free for download earlier this year. It's not my favorite virtualization tool, but it works fine. Grab Virtual PC 2004 SP1, an 18.2MB download. The key part of the equation is a virtual machine appliance supplied by the IE7 team that consists of a modified version of Windows XP SP2 whose sole purpose is to run IE6. It's a free 495.8MB download (requires WGA online validation) that times out on April 1. Schare says the IE7 team hopes to renew the program with a new virtual image after the first times out. There's no charge for the use of Windows XP, by the way. This is a pretty good deal. For more information, check out this entry in the Microsoft IE development team's IEBlog, IE6 and IE7 Running on a Single Machine. Problems Uninstalling IE7? I'm recommending that business people (and anyone who runs into Web compatibility issues with the new browser) latch onto this IE6 on XP/Virtual PC trick or uninstall IE7. Removal of Microsoft's newest browser is initiated from the Control Panel's Add or Remove Programs applet. Some pre-release versions of IE7 registered their Add/Remove entries in amongst the Windows Software Updates toward the bottom of the installed programs list. So if you don't find an IE7 program entry, be sure to click the "Show updates" check box to make that area appear and then scan the Windows security updates area. People often mistakenly think they can't uninstall IE7 when, in fact, they can. I've had excellent success uninstalling both the betas and the final version of IE7 from five of my PCs. The only problem I'm hearing from Windows XP users is that they can't find the IE7 entry in Add or Remove Programs. I have one report that IE7 can't be uninstalled from Windows Server 2003. At newsletter distribution time, Microsoft hadn't gotten back to me yet about Windows Server 2003. So far, the IE7 uninstall process seems a lot better than the similar but problematic IE 5.5 uninstall process prevalent in the late '90s. But I still don't really have enough data. If you're having issues with uninstalling IE7, please tell me about them. Be advised: Many people who ran the betas of IE7 and who installed the final code over any of those betas are having trouble uninstalling IE7. And the reason often boils down to this simple fact: They performed upgrade installs of successive betas of IE7. I've probably written this piece of advice to Windows users more frequently than any other since Windows 95 emerged: Do not install beta software over beta software. Do not install the final code over a beta installation. Always uninstall a previous beta version before you install any newer version. I've seen very experienced people do this and get into trouble. Beta software is not meant to be upgraded. You may get away with it sometimes, but sooner or later this practice will have negative consequences. Schare reports that all your important settings, your bookmarks, the Links bar, and other user data will be preserved when you uninstall IE7 and reinstall IE6. The only trace he could think of is that a handful of default IE7 bookmarks will remain in your bookmarks, but you can delete them manually. So, the point is, there's little reason not to uninstall previous versions of IE7 (this does not apply to IE6) before installing the final version of IE7. During IE7 Uninstall: Ignore Affected Programs Dialog There is, however, one part of IE7 uninstall process that you may need additional guidance on. During uninstall, a dialog pops up that warns you that some of your applications might in some unspecified way be affected by removing IE7. People who frequently install new software on their systems are especially likely to encounter this dialog. I asked Microsoft's Schare whether this should be a concern to people looking to uninstall IE7, and he quite honestly said no, that IE7 users can ignore it. The mysterious yet inconsequential dialog is initiated by the Windows Package Installer, the tool that supports incremental installation of system files for Windows Update and many other Microsoft software updating processes. Update.exe, the primary file behind the Windows Package Installer, lives in something of a version-control nightmare (once referred to as "DLL Hell"). A big part of what it does is identify and manage dependencies among different software elements and their multiple versions. Because Internet Explorer is installed directly into Windows' system files, the Windows Package Installer is the designated tool for managing IE7 install, update, and uninstall processes. So, doing what it's supposed to do, Windows Package Installer fires up a dialog that shows you all the products that have been installed in Windows since you added IE7. All it lists are possible dependencies, not known dependencies. For there to be any threat at all to the more recently installed programs the warning dialog lists, those programs would have to explicitly require a specific IE7 system file to operate properly. That's a highly unlikely scenario; it's just not smart for third-party developers to require such a specific version of Internet Explorer. It's especially unlikely for the near term, since IE7 hasn't been out long enough for software developers to create products that have inappropriate dependencies. But Schare says he believes that, even years from now, you may safely ignore this dialog when uninstalling IE7. Back to IE7: If you're going the other way and are about to install it for the first time, this software updates your Windows system files. I recommend taking a System Restore point or, better yet, making a backup of your Windows installation or entire drive prior to the installation. All previous major iterations of Internet Explorer (such as versions 5.5, 5.0, and 4.0) have presented significant problems for a percentage of the people who installed them. Because so many use Internet Explorer, a problem that affects even 4% of its users is a very large number of people. So far, IE7 is less problematic than many of its predecessors. But don't underestimate the power of an altered Microsoft browser to create problems. In the end, a product that is an absolute standard that upgrades and then is no longer a standard can be a very frustrating product indeed. The only inherent problem with IE7 is that it's not IE6. Don't let that bite you. Keep IE7 from Coming Back There is a simple, though somwewhat unintuitive, way of saying "no" to IE7 in Windows XP's Automatic Updates and making that preference permanent. These steps can also be easily adapted for use with Windows Update and Microsoft Update (in those setting, remember to always choose Custom and click on all options to reveal details). These instructions assume that IE7 is not already on your computer. If it is on your computer, you must uninstall it first. Here are the steps: 1. Change the Automatic Updates Control Panel setting to "Notify me but don't automatically download or install them." From now on, you will need to closely monitor every update that Microsoft wants to install on your computer. You will also have to pay attention to available security updates and ensure that you initiate their installation. Once you have permanently blocked IE7, you could go back and make Automoatic Updates more automatic, if you choose. But the time is past, I think, when all of us will be comfortable allowing Microsoft to choose every update for us. 2. Wait for the yellow shield icon to appear in your system tray that signifies updates are available. 3. Click the yellow icon and, if prompted, choose the "Custom Install" option, which will bring up the "Choose updates to download" dialog. 4. Look through the entire list of available updates for an entry that contains "Internet Explorer 7" or similar. As with WGA, this entry is usually the very last item, often found in a long list of other updates. Remove the check mark beside this IE7 entry and click Close. (If there are other security updates waiting to install too, leave their check marks in place; they will install.) 5. A moment or two after you click Close, another box will open labeled Hide Update. Add a check mark beside "Don't notify me about these updates again." That should do it. Hopefully I've offered a strategy that will help you deal with it while enjoying the browser you prefer. -----Original Message----- From: williams-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:williams-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Williams Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 10:19 AM To: WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Viewing DNA Results in IE7 Y'all, I wanted to pass along that although the scrolling tables cannot be currently viewing correctly in IE7, there is still a way to view the project results with IE7. On the matched groups page, you will see a printer friendly version indicated. This (not the acrobat version) works well in IE7 and is dynamically generated from the database so it is always up to date with the latest information. The only real difference between this one and the other is that the printable version just dumps all the data to a single screen, which gets a bit lengthy...while the other keeps the page scrolling down and compacts everything into a cool scrolling table setup. Enjoy! Kind regards, Adrian Adrian Williams Williams DNA Project Administrator http://williams.genealogy.fm/ http://www.dna-pat.com/ stickamw@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Congratulations, Carol! I can well appreciate your feeling of success!! thanks for sharing! Connie Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: wwwuser@yourhostingaccount.com<mailto:wwwuser@yourhostingaccount.com> To: williams-dna@rootsweb.com<mailto:williams-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 10:29 AM Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] From The Forums! - Williams genealogy success after15 years The following new message has been added to the General Chit-Chat board under the new topic of Williams genealogy success after 15 years... -------------------------------- I had to tell someone about my recent success researching my Williams line. I am group 49 and we are RARE! We are in hopes that being "rare" will be a big help rather than a hindrance. A year ago I gave up and hired a professional researcher in W.KY. She found a few things, but nothing that added a much needed generation. In November she called to tell me that she had been in the Hopkins Co., KY courthouse and was looking through some court order books that had obviously just been brought up from the basement. In said books, were a court order to my now proven GGGrandmother Mahala Williams listing her children. An unknown sister to my GGrandfather Thomas J. Williams, he and all of his siblings. Also, stating that "Thomas J. Williams, orphan of Benjamin Williams deceased. Would you call that proof positive or what??? Needless to say, after working on Thomas Jefferson Williams for 15 years and having a kindly person find irrefutable proof of another generation was a sign that I must continue my search. After the first of the year, I will post my gedcom file to group 49 and hope that it will inspire some of you to know that perserverence pays. I should tell you all that my Dad Burton F. Williams is a J2 haplotype. Carol Williams Huff ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The following new message has been added to the General Chit-Chat board under the new topic of Williams genealogy success after 15 years... -------------------------------- I had to tell someone about my recent success researching my Williams line.  I am group 49 and we are RARE! We are in hopes that  being "rare" will be a big help rather than a hindrance. A year ago I gave up and hired a professional researcher in W.KY.  She found a few things, but nothing that added a much needed generation. In November she called to tell me that she had been in the Hopkins Co., KY courthouse and was looking through some court order books that had obviously just been brought up from the basement. In said books, were a court order to my now proven GGGrandmother Mahala Williams listing her children.  An unknown sister to my GGrandfather Thomas J. Williams, he and all of his siblings.  Also, stating that "Thomas J. Williams, orphan of Benjamin Williams deceased.  Would you call that proof positive or what??? Needless to say, after working on Thomas Jefferson Williams for 15 years and having a kindly person find  irrefutable proof of another generation was a sign that I must continue my search. After the first of the year, I will post my gedcom file to group 49 and hope that it will inspire some of you to know that perserverence pays.  I should tell you all that my Dad Burton F. Williams is a J2 haplotype. Carol Williams Huff

Thanks all, After reading the last couple of e-mails I tried the Web Mat Printer Friendly Version instead of the Adobe Acrobat and now I can see all the results just fine!! I don't use that IE7 or Explore, because I just use my AOL, and I only use my computer, I sure don't understand all this stuff about it. So again my thanks..... Peggy

ADRIAN, I HAVE IE 7.0.5700 & I CAN GO THRU ALL THE DNA PAGES AFTER CLICKING ON THE "WEB FORMAT PRINTER FRIENDLY VERSION" AT THE TOP OF THE "MATCHED GROUP RESULTS" PAGE. THE "ADOBE ACROBAT VERSION" DOES NOT WORK FOR ME. ROBERT W WILLIAMS. ----- Original Message ----- From: <williams-dna-request@rootsweb.com> To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:48 PM Subject: WILLIAMS-DNA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 45 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. From The Forums! - Re: Underlined Names in the DNA Postings? > (wwwuser@yourhostingaccount.com) > 2. From The Forums! - New Group Boards > (wwwuser@yourhostingaccount.com) > 3. Re: From The Forums! - New Group Boards (lollygag) > 4. Re: From The Forums! - Re: Underlined Names in the DNA > Postings? (LaNereBob@aol.com) > 5. Re: From The Forums! - New Group Boards (Doris E. Williams-Keefer) > 6. From The Forums! - Welcome fellow Group 39 members > (wwwuser@yourhostingaccount.com) > 7. Question for Adrian (N & K Chestnut) > 8. Re: Question for Adrian (Adrian Williams) > 9. Re: Question for Adrian (N & K Chestnut) > > Adrian > > N & K Chestnut wrote: > > Awhile back we upgraded to Outlook Express 7 > > it corrected some of our problems, but > > Shortly after I went to look at DNA results for WILLIAMS-DNA and could > NOT view them > > I believe you did warn us about that > > You mentioned that you would make some "adjustments" so we could view > them > > Has that been done, yet? > > > > Kay Chestnut > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: wwwuser@yourhostingaccount.com > > To: williams-dna@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 12:02 PM > > Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] From The Forums! - New Group Boards > > > > > > The following new message has been added to the Williams DNA Project > board under the new topic of New Group Boards... > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > Y'all, > > > > I have gone thru and added discussion boards on the forums for > > each of the established 54 matched groups. These boards are areas > > for y'all to chat about your ancestry but in a place where others can > > see and possibly make connections. If you have a description you'd > > like to see attached to your groups board, just send it to me and > > I'll add it! > > > > Adrian > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the WILLIAMS-DNA list administrator, send an email to > WILLIAMS-DNA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the WILLIAMS-DNA mailing list, send an email to > WILLIAMS-DNA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of WILLIAMS-DNA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 45 > *******************************************

Y'all, I wanted to pass along that although the scrolling tables cannot be currently viewing correctly in IE7, there is still a way to view the project results with IE7. On the matched groups page, you will see a printer friendly version indicated. This (not the acrobat version) works well in IE7 and is dynamically generated from the database so it is always up to date with the latest information. The only real difference between this one and the other is that the printable version just dumps all the data to a single screen, which gets a bit lengthy...while the other keeps the page scrolling down and compacts everything into a cool scrolling table setup. Enjoy! Kind regards, Adrian Adrian Williams Williams DNA Project Administrator http://williams.genealogy.fm/ http://www.dna-pat.com/ stickamw@earthlink.net

Actually the problems are with Internet Explorer 7 (which probably came packaged with OE7)... Yes, IE7 presents some interesting challenges with the DNA results matched groups and no-match group scrolling tables. In a nutshell, those table are made with some complex CSS, which what many web page styles are done with. With the older versions of IE (6 and before) you could "hack" the CSS so that a style that would make IE blow up could be masked where IE would ignore. Well, that worked just fine up until microsoft "fixed" that ability and now they can see the hidden stuff and when it see it, it chokes. I have actually been working on this heavily over the last couple of days and have been enlisting help from a CSS users group to help me figure out what I can do to fix the problem. Alas, I don't have a solution in place yet, but rest assured that when I do get one figured out, I will let everyone know!!! Adrian N & K Chestnut wrote: > Awhile back we upgraded to Outlook Express 7 > it corrected some of our problems, but > Shortly after I went to look at DNA results for WILLIAMS-DNA and could NOT view them > I believe you did warn us about that > You mentioned that you would make some "adjustments" so we could view them > Has that been done, yet? > > Kay Chestnut > ----- Original Message ----- > From: wwwuser@yourhostingaccount.com > To: williams-dna@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 12:02 PM > Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] From The Forums! - New Group Boards > > > The following new message has been added to the Williams DNA Project board under the new topic of New Group Boards... > > > -------------------------------- > > Y'all, > > I have gone thru and added discussion boards on the forums for > each of the established 54 matched groups. These boards are areas > for y'all to chat about your ancestry but in a place where others can > see and possibly make connections. If you have a description you'd > like to see attached to your groups board, just send it to me and > I'll add it! > > Adrian > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

The following new message has been added to the Group 39 board under the new topic of Welcome fellow Group 39 members ... -------------------------------- Welcome to Group 39. If you are part of this group then you are Welsh. I have only traced my line back to 1817 in Cardiganshire, Wales and would love to gain knew information that would take me back further. For those interested, the genealogy that I know of on my side of the family can be viewed at http://welshwilliams.blogspot.com

Thanks, Adrian, for the explanation. And I thought your "fix" might be difficult to do. [I have lived enough years, and have had my patience "tried", and I have learned to wait without a lot of "stewing". However, I really do appreciate explanations.] Kay Chestnut ----- Original Message ----- From: Adrian Williams To: williams-dna@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Question for Adrian Actually the problems are with Internet Explorer 7 (which probably came packaged with OE7)... Yes, IE7 presents some interesting challenges with the DNA results matched groups and no-match group scrolling tables. In a nutshell, those table are made with some complex CSS, which what many web page styles are done with. With the older versions of IE (6 and before) you could "hack" the CSS so that a style that would make IE blow up could be masked where IE would ignore. Well, that worked just fine up until microsoft "fixed" that ability and now they can see the hidden stuff and when it see it, it chokes. I have actually been working on this heavily over the last couple of days and have been enlisting help from a CSS users group to help me figure out what I can do to fix the problem. Alas, I don't have a solution in place yet, but rest assured that when I do get one figured out, I will let everyone know!!! Adrian N & K Chestnut wrote: > Awhile back we upgraded to Outlook Express 7 > it corrected some of our problems, but > Shortly after I went to look at DNA results for WILLIAMS-DNA and could NOT view them > I believe you did warn us about that > You mentioned that you would make some "adjustments" so we could view them > Has that been done, yet? > > Kay Chestnut > ----- Original Message ----- > From: wwwuser@yourhostingaccount.com > To: williams-dna@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 12:02 PM > Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] From The Forums! - New Group Boards > > > The following new message has been added to the Williams DNA Project board under the new topic of New Group Boards... > > > -------------------------------- > > Y'all, > > I have gone thru and added discussion boards on the forums for > each of the established 54 matched groups. These boards are areas > for y'all to chat about your ancestry but in a place where others can > see and possibly make connections. If you have a description you'd > like to see attached to your groups board, just send it to me and > I'll add it! > > Adrian > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Awhile back we upgraded to Outlook Express 7 it corrected some of our problems, but Shortly after I went to look at DNA results for WILLIAMS-DNA and could NOT view them I believe you did warn us about that You mentioned that you would make some "adjustments" so we could view them Has that been done, yet? Kay Chestnut ----- Original Message ----- From: wwwuser@yourhostingaccount.com To: williams-dna@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 12:02 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] From The Forums! - New Group Boards The following new message has been added to the Williams DNA Project board under the new topic of New Group Boards... -------------------------------- Y'all, I have gone thru and added discussion boards on the forums for each of the established 54 matched groups. These boards are areas for y'all to chat about your ancestry but in a place where others can see and possibly make connections. If you have a description you'd like to see attached to your groups board, just send it to me and I'll add it! Adrian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Adrian, You're amazing! La Nere

who in the world are you talking about? If you are talking about Adrian then he must not be getting your emails because he's always prompt on answering emails. ----- Original Message ----- From: "lollygag" <lollygag@bellsouth.net> To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] From The Forums! - New Group Boards > You don't even answer my emails. Why bother with the board? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <wwwuser@yourhostingaccount.com> > To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 3:02 PM > Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] From The Forums! - New Group Boards > > >> The following new message has been added to the Williams DNA Project >> board >> under the new topic of New Group Boards... >> >> >> -------------------------------- >> >> Y'all, >> >> I have gone thru and added discussion boards on the forums for >> each of the established 54 matched groups. These boards are areas >> for y'all to chat about your ancestry but in a place where others can >> see and possibly make connections. If you have a description you'd >> like to see attached to your groups board, just send it to me and >> I'll add it! >> >> Adrian >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.25/593 - Release Date: > 12/19/2006 >