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Actually, this brings up an important question...does everyone know what a GEDCOM file is? GEDCOM is an abbreviation for GEneological Data COMmunications, and is a standard format for transmitting or transferring genealogical data from one computer system or program to another. A GEDCOM file is a text file, usually (in MS-DOS) with the extension .GED, which preserves the relationships in a genealogy data file. Most genealogy programs have the ability to import and export data as GEDCOM files. Odds are if you are using some type of program to keep/track your genealogy, then you have the ability to create a GEDCOM file from your data. Kind regards, Adrian Adrian Williams Williams DNA Project Administrator http://williams.genealogy.fm/ http://www.dna-pat.com/ stickamw@earthlink.net Walter F. Williams wrote: > Good afternoon: > Easy answer. I don't use gedcom software. Is there any other way to > submit?? > Walt > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <catcoop@bellsouth.net> > To: <WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 1:55 PM > Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Informal Poll Regarding TNG Module > > > >> Dear Williams DNA Project Participants, >> >> First, I want to thank all of you that have replied to my requests for >> pedigrees for the site. Over 50 of you have submitted your data! >> >> With the project growing at such a rapid pace (372 participants), I find >> that the TNG module is lagging in the number of gedcoms posted by our >> participants. Thus, I'm taking a sort of informal poll to ask why more of >> our participants aren't adding their gedcoms to the TNG module. For >> example, do you find it too difficult to upload your gedcom to the site? >> Do you not use gedcom software? >> >> Please reply and let us know why you aren't adding your gedcoms to the TNG >> module. Adrian has created a wonderful DNA project site for us and wants >> all of us to use it to our own benefit. To that end, your input regarding >> the TNG module is crucial. >> >> Thank you for your time! >> >> Sincerely, >> Catherine Williams Cooper >> Lineages Coordinator >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I don't use it I use Word. R A Williams

Good afternoon: Easy answer. I don't use gedcom software. Is there any other way to submit?? Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: <catcoop@bellsouth.net> To: <WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Informal Poll Regarding TNG Module > Dear Williams DNA Project Participants, > > First, I want to thank all of you that have replied to my requests for > pedigrees for the site. Over 50 of you have submitted your data! > > With the project growing at such a rapid pace (372 participants), I find > that the TNG module is lagging in the number of gedcoms posted by our > participants. Thus, I'm taking a sort of informal poll to ask why more of > our participants aren't adding their gedcoms to the TNG module. For > example, do you find it too difficult to upload your gedcom to the site? > Do you not use gedcom software? > > Please reply and let us know why you aren't adding your gedcoms to the TNG > module. Adrian has created a wonderful DNA project site for us and wants > all of us to use it to our own benefit. To that end, your input regarding > the TNG module is crucial. > > Thank you for your time! > > Sincerely, > Catherine Williams Cooper > Lineages Coordinator > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Williams DNA Project Participants, First, I want to thank all of you that have replied to my requests for pedigrees for the site. Over 50 of you have submitted your data! With the project growing at such a rapid pace (372 participants), I find that the TNG module is lagging in the number of gedcoms posted by our participants. Thus, I'm taking a sort of informal poll to ask why more of our participants aren't adding their gedcoms to the TNG module. For example, do you find it too difficult to upload your gedcom to the site? Do you not use gedcom software? Please reply and let us know why you aren't adding your gedcoms to the TNG module. Adrian has created a wonderful DNA project site for us and wants all of us to use it to our own benefit. To that end, your input regarding the TNG module is crucial. Thank you for your time! Sincerely, Catherine Williams Cooper Lineages Coordinator

I am a novice on the computer and do not know what a gedcom is or how to do it? rodwms@gmail.com or rodwms@charter.net -----Original Message----- From: williams-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:williams-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of catcoop@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 10:55 AM To: WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Informal Poll Regarding TNG Module Dear Williams DNA Project Participants, First, I want to thank all of you that have replied to my requests for pedigrees for the site. Over 50 of you have submitted your data! With the project growing at such a rapid pace (372 participants), I find that the TNG module is lagging in the number of gedcoms posted by our participants. Thus, I'm taking a sort of informal poll to ask why more of our participants aren't adding their gedcoms to the TNG module. For example, do you find it too difficult to upload your gedcom to the site? Do you not use gedcom software? Please reply and let us know why you aren't adding your gedcoms to the TNG module. Adrian has created a wonderful DNA project site for us and wants all of us to use it to our own benefit. To that end, your input regarding the TNG module is crucial. Thank you for your time! Sincerely, Catherine Williams Cooper Lineages Coordinator ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

i would just like to know if UNC coach roy williams is our group. love that guy. GO HEELS!! ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hello Everyone, _http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/02/us/02dna.html?_r=1&oref=slogin_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/02/us/02dna.html?_r=1&oref=slogin) I thought the above article "The DNA Age: Stalking Strangers’ DNA to Fill in the Family Tree" would be interesting and amusing for us. I think if I'd read it about 16 months ago I would have thought about yanking the pipe out of the mouth of one decidedly "uninterested" Hill first cousin, whose father was gung ho on DNA, but passed away before the project got underway. (Though I have since found out about a daughter-in-law, widowed, who may be able to exert some pressure!) Note: if the above link doesn't work, just go to _www.nytimes.com_ (http://www.nytimes.com) and search DNA, then you'll find the title. Best Regards, Janet Hunter ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

You surely are right about the Ulster Scots feeling superior to the native Irish. I have a letter written in 1842 by Robert Donaldson ( 1769-1852) of Bulloch County, GA, in which he states "I am a Scot and I was born in Northern Ireland...." In his letter he made it clear that he didn't want to be confused with an Irishman. It is said that at least 20% of the colonist at the time of the American Revoution had some Ulster Scot ancestry and of course, there was a concentration in Applachia. There was a colony in Duplin Co, (eastern NC) in 1736 that has many descendants today. Also, one at Queensboro, Jefferson County, GA. Some were in up country S.C. as well as New York Probably most landed in Penn. and came down into the Appalacians. There supposedly was not much mixing between the native Catholic Irish and the Calvinist Scots in Ulster, but a study of the surnames indicates , in my opinion, that there was more than is commonly believed. Boe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Williams" <fwillia@bellsouth.net> To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Family Movie on Wales > Thanks Boe for refreshing my memory. I was aware of the Border Scots but had > not associated it with Wales. Scots-Irish is a term used in America to > separate the Ulster Scots from the Irish. The Ulster Scots thought they were > a cut above the Irish and were here first. If your roots are in the > Appalachians there is a good chance of being Scots-Irish, Ulster Scots and > Border Scots. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Boe Williams" <ccshoes@bellsouth.net> > To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:53 AM > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Family Movie on Wales > > > > Many of the Scots-Irish were really from Wales. Most were from the border > > country between Scotland and England. Howerever there were some from Wales > > and some from around London. There were also some French Protestants. We > > are > > the only ones who refer to them as "Scots-Irish, which is an apt term, > > i.e. > > Scots born in Irleand. Perhaps a better name would be Ulster Scots, or > > still > > better, "Borderers". > > > > The point is, your family could have come to this country from Northern > > Ireland, but still could have originally come from Wales. > > > > E. l. "Boe' Williams > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Frank Williams" <fwillia@bellsouth.net> > > To: "Scott K. Williams" <showmemule@earthlink.net>; > > <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:48 AM > > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Family Movie on Wales > > > > > >> Scott, thank you for the information. I find this very interesting. > > Although > >> I think my Williams is Scots-Irish it could still have roots in Wales. > >> Group 20 is the only one I know of that may share a Scots-Irish decent. I > >> think you and I share the first 12 markers. If we have any Scots-Irish > >> Williams out there I would like to hear from you. > >> > >> Frank Williams Group 20 Williams DNA Project > >> http://williams.genealogy.fm/ > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Scott K. Williams" <showmemule@earthlink.net> > >> To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:13 AM > >> Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Family Movie on Wales > >> > >> > >> > Every family that traces its origin to Wales should see the following > >> > movie: > >> > > >> > The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill But Came Down a Mountain (1995), > >> > starring Hugh Grant, Tara Fitzgerald, Colm Meaney. (rated PG) > >> > > >> > The narrator begins the story: > >> > > >> > "For some odd reason, lost in the mists of time, there's an > > extraordinary > >> > shortage of last names in Wales. Almost everyone seems to be a > >> > Williams, > > a > >> > Jones, or an Evans. To avoid widespread confusion, Welsh people often > > add > >> > an occupation to a name. For example, there was Williams the Petroleum, > >> > and Williams the Death. There was Jones the Bottle, and Jones the Prize > >> > Cabbage..." > >> > > >> > One reviewer does make the comment that, "Actually there is a known > >> > reason: as part of their increased domination of Wales in the 16th > >> > century, the English abolished the Welsh system of patronymics and > >> > introduced surnames arbitrarily." > >> > > >> > The basic story begins in 1917 when two English Cartographers arrive at > >> > the Welsh village, Ffynnon Garw, to measure the mountains height. On > >> > British maps mountains were only depicted if they were 1000 meters or > >> > taller, otherwise it was only a "hill". This offended the village > > people, > >> > who stated that their sons were fighting and dying fighting the Germans > >> > (in WWI) and if they came back they would find the English have taken > > our > >> > mountain. "This can't happen--this is a national emergency!" > >> > > >> > So this movie tells the commic tale about how the village defends their > >> > mountain. > >> > > >> > Last thing, Williams, the Petroleum (gas station mechanic) "is asked > > about > >> > a broken part he has removed from a car, and replies "I don't know what > >> > you call it in English, but in Welsh we call it a bechingalw". > > Bechingalw > >> > means "whatjumacallit"." > >> > > >> > Blockbuster lists it among the 100 movies you must see before you die, > > and > >> > I highly recommend anyone with roots in Wales to see it. > >> > > >> > --Scott Williams > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.16/729 - Release Date: > >> 3/21/2007 > >> > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.16/729 - Release Date: 3/21/2007 > >

Thanks Boe for refreshing my memory. I was aware of the Border Scots but had not associated it with Wales. Scots-Irish is a term used in America to separate the Ulster Scots from the Irish. The Ulster Scots thought they were a cut above the Irish and were here first. If your roots are in the Appalachians there is a good chance of being Scots-Irish, Ulster Scots and Border Scots. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Boe Williams" <ccshoes@bellsouth.net> To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Family Movie on Wales > Many of the Scots-Irish were really from Wales. Most were from the border > country between Scotland and England. Howerever there were some from Wales > and some from around London. There were also some French Protestants. We > are > the only ones who refer to them as "Scots-Irish, which is an apt term, > i.e. > Scots born in Irleand. Perhaps a better name would be Ulster Scots, or > still > better, "Borderers". > > The point is, your family could have come to this country from Northern > Ireland, but still could have originally come from Wales. > > E. l. "Boe' Williams > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Williams" <fwillia@bellsouth.net> > To: "Scott K. Williams" <showmemule@earthlink.net>; > <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:48 AM > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Family Movie on Wales > > >> Scott, thank you for the information. I find this very interesting. > Although >> I think my Williams is Scots-Irish it could still have roots in Wales. >> Group 20 is the only one I know of that may share a Scots-Irish decent. I >> think you and I share the first 12 markers. If we have any Scots-Irish >> Williams out there I would like to hear from you. >> >> Frank Williams Group 20 Williams DNA Project >> http://williams.genealogy.fm/ >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Scott K. Williams" <showmemule@earthlink.net> >> To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:13 AM >> Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Family Movie on Wales >> >> >> > Every family that traces its origin to Wales should see the following >> > movie: >> > >> > The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill But Came Down a Mountain (1995), >> > starring Hugh Grant, Tara Fitzgerald, Colm Meaney. (rated PG) >> > >> > The narrator begins the story: >> > >> > "For some odd reason, lost in the mists of time, there's an > extraordinary >> > shortage of last names in Wales. Almost everyone seems to be a >> > Williams, > a >> > Jones, or an Evans. To avoid widespread confusion, Welsh people often > add >> > an occupation to a name. For example, there was Williams the Petroleum, >> > and Williams the Death. There was Jones the Bottle, and Jones the Prize >> > Cabbage..." >> > >> > One reviewer does make the comment that, "Actually there is a known >> > reason: as part of their increased domination of Wales in the 16th >> > century, the English abolished the Welsh system of patronymics and >> > introduced surnames arbitrarily." >> > >> > The basic story begins in 1917 when two English Cartographers arrive at >> > the Welsh village, Ffynnon Garw, to measure the mountains height. On >> > British maps mountains were only depicted if they were 1000 meters or >> > taller, otherwise it was only a "hill". This offended the village > people, >> > who stated that their sons were fighting and dying fighting the Germans >> > (in WWI) and if they came back they would find the English have taken > our >> > mountain. "This can't happen--this is a national emergency!" >> > >> > So this movie tells the commic tale about how the village defends their >> > mountain. >> > >> > Last thing, Williams, the Petroleum (gas station mechanic) "is asked > about >> > a broken part he has removed from a car, and replies "I don't know what >> > you call it in English, but in Welsh we call it a bechingalw". > Bechingalw >> > means "whatjumacallit"." >> > >> > Blockbuster lists it among the 100 movies you must see before you die, > and >> > I highly recommend anyone with roots in Wales to see it. >> > >> > --Scott Williams >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.16/729 - Release Date: >> 3/21/2007 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many of the Scots-Irish were really from Wales. Most were from the border country between Scotland and England. Howerever there were some from Wales and some from around London. There were also some French Protestants. We are the only ones who refer to them as "Scots-Irish, which is an apt term, i.e. Scots born in Irleand. Perhaps a better name would be Ulster Scots, or still better, "Borderers". The point is, your family could have come to this country from Northern Ireland, but still could have originally come from Wales. E. l. "Boe' Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Williams" <fwillia@bellsouth.net> To: "Scott K. Williams" <showmemule@earthlink.net>; <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Family Movie on Wales > Scott, thank you for the information. I find this very interesting. Although > I think my Williams is Scots-Irish it could still have roots in Wales. > Group 20 is the only one I know of that may share a Scots-Irish decent. I > think you and I share the first 12 markers. If we have any Scots-Irish > Williams out there I would like to hear from you. > > Frank Williams Group 20 Williams DNA Project > http://williams.genealogy.fm/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott K. Williams" <showmemule@earthlink.net> > To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:13 AM > Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Family Movie on Wales > > > > Every family that traces its origin to Wales should see the following > > movie: > > > > The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill But Came Down a Mountain (1995), > > starring Hugh Grant, Tara Fitzgerald, Colm Meaney. (rated PG) > > > > The narrator begins the story: > > > > "For some odd reason, lost in the mists of time, there's an extraordinary > > shortage of last names in Wales. Almost everyone seems to be a Williams, a > > Jones, or an Evans. To avoid widespread confusion, Welsh people often add > > an occupation to a name. For example, there was Williams the Petroleum, > > and Williams the Death. There was Jones the Bottle, and Jones the Prize > > Cabbage..." > > > > One reviewer does make the comment that, "Actually there is a known > > reason: as part of their increased domination of Wales in the 16th > > century, the English abolished the Welsh system of patronymics and > > introduced surnames arbitrarily." > > > > The basic story begins in 1917 when two English Cartographers arrive at > > the Welsh village, Ffynnon Garw, to measure the mountains height. On > > British maps mountains were only depicted if they were 1000 meters or > > taller, otherwise it was only a "hill". This offended the village people, > > who stated that their sons were fighting and dying fighting the Germans > > (in WWI) and if they came back they would find the English have taken our > > mountain. "This can't happen--this is a national emergency!" > > > > So this movie tells the commic tale about how the village defends their > > mountain. > > > > Last thing, Williams, the Petroleum (gas station mechanic) "is asked about > > a broken part he has removed from a car, and replies "I don't know what > > you call it in English, but in Welsh we call it a bechingalw". Bechingalw > > means "whatjumacallit"." > > > > Blockbuster lists it among the 100 movies you must see before you die, and > > I highly recommend anyone with roots in Wales to see it. > > > > --Scott Williams > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.16/729 - Release Date: 3/21/2007 > >

Scott, thank you for the information. I find this very interesting. Although I think my Williams is Scots-Irish it could still have roots in Wales. Group 20 is the only one I know of that may share a Scots-Irish decent. I think you and I share the first 12 markers. If we have any Scots-Irish Williams out there I would like to hear from you. Frank Williams Group 20 Williams DNA Project http://williams.genealogy.fm/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott K. Williams" <showmemule@earthlink.net> To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:13 AM Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Family Movie on Wales > Every family that traces its origin to Wales should see the following > movie: > > The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill But Came Down a Mountain (1995), > starring Hugh Grant, Tara Fitzgerald, Colm Meaney. (rated PG) > > The narrator begins the story: > > "For some odd reason, lost in the mists of time, there's an extraordinary > shortage of last names in Wales. Almost everyone seems to be a Williams, a > Jones, or an Evans. To avoid widespread confusion, Welsh people often add > an occupation to a name. For example, there was Williams the Petroleum, > and Williams the Death. There was Jones the Bottle, and Jones the Prize > Cabbage..." > > One reviewer does make the comment that, "Actually there is a known > reason: as part of their increased domination of Wales in the 16th > century, the English abolished the Welsh system of patronymics and > introduced surnames arbitrarily." > > The basic story begins in 1917 when two English Cartographers arrive at > the Welsh village, Ffynnon Garw, to measure the mountains height. On > British maps mountains were only depicted if they were 1000 meters or > taller, otherwise it was only a "hill". This offended the village people, > who stated that their sons were fighting and dying fighting the Germans > (in WWI) and if they came back they would find the English have taken our > mountain. "This can't happen--this is a national emergency!" > > So this movie tells the commic tale about how the village defends their > mountain. > > Last thing, Williams, the Petroleum (gas station mechanic) "is asked about > a broken part he has removed from a car, and replies "I don't know what > you call it in English, but in Welsh we call it a bechingalw". Bechingalw > means "whatjumacallit"." > > Blockbuster lists it among the 100 movies you must see before you die, and > I highly recommend anyone with roots in Wales to see it. > > --Scott Williams > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Every family that traces its origin to Wales should see the following movie: The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill But Came Down a Mountain (1995), starring Hugh Grant, Tara Fitzgerald, Colm Meaney. (rated PG) The narrator begins the story: "For some odd reason, lost in the mists of time, there's an extraordinary shortage of last names in Wales. Almost everyone seems to be a Williams, a Jones, or an Evans. To avoid widespread confusion, Welsh people often add an occupation to a name. For example, there was Williams the Petroleum, and Williams the Death. There was Jones the Bottle, and Jones the Prize Cabbage..." One reviewer does make the comment that, "Actually there is a known reason: as part of their increased domination of Wales in the 16th century, the English abolished the Welsh system of patronymics and introduced surnames arbitrarily." The basic story begins in 1917 when two English Cartographers arrive at the Welsh village, Ffynnon Garw, to measure the mountains height. On British maps mountains were only depicted if they were 1000 meters or taller, otherwise it was only a "hill". This offended the village people, who stated that their sons were fighting and dying fighting the Germans (in WWI) and if they came back they would find the English have taken our mountain. "This can't happen--this is a national emergency!" So this movie tells the commic tale about how the village defends their mountain. Last thing, Williams, the Petroleum (gas station mechanic) "is asked about a broken part he has removed from a car, and replies "I don't know what you call it in English, but in Welsh we call it a bechingalw". Bechingalw means "whatjumacallit"." Blockbuster lists it among the 100 movies you must see before you die, and I highly recommend anyone with roots in Wales to see it. --Scott Williams

Adrian, Very interesting indeed. All of the folks named in this letter can be found on my web site http://rea-williams.com which is my genealogy file in TNG format. Yes, even Abraham Linclon who is related through the Hanks family. Wish I was rich....... If anyone can add to what I have please let me know. Duncan Rea Williams Group 23 -----Original Message----- From: williams-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:williams-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Williams Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 2:57 PM To: WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com; williams-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] Williams Document Signed by Abraham Lincoln Y'all, Not that I can afford what will most likely be an astronomical amount for the document, there is a letter to the Sec. of War (Edwin Stanton) penned and signed by Abraham Lincoln up for sale on by an auction house. I only bring it up here because of the content of the letter as such: "My dear Sir: I wish to oblige Mr. Jesse L. Williams, who will hand you this. He has two sons in the Army - one, Edward P. Williams - is now a Lieut. & Adjutant of the 100th Ia. Vols, at this time between Memphis & Grand Junction. The father wishes him appointed a Commissary, and I, as I have said, wish him obliged, if it can be consistently done. Please see & hear Mr. Williams. Yours truly. A.Lincoln" There is a bunch of additional information given on the website for the two Williams' mentioned, (sources unknown) but thought it might be of interest to the anyone from this lineage. http://americana.ha.com/common/view_item.php?SaleNo=658&LotIdNo=43016&txtSea rch=&hdnSearch=true Kind regards, Adrian Adrian Williams Williams DNA Project Administrator http://williams.genealogy.fm/ http://www.dna-pat.com/ stickamw@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Y'all, Not that I can afford what will most likely be an astronomical amount for the document, there is a letter to the Sec. of War (Edwin Stanton) penned and signed by Abraham Lincoln up for sale on by an auction house. I only bring it up here because of the content of the letter as such: "My dear Sir: I wish to oblige Mr. Jesse L. Williams, who will hand you this. He has two sons in the Army - one, Edward P. Williams - is now a Lieut. & Adjutant of the 100th Ia. Vols, at this time between Memphis & Grand Junction. The father wishes him appointed a Commissary, and I, as I have said, wish him obliged, if it can be consistently done. Please see & hear Mr. Williams. Yours truly. A.Lincoln" There is a bunch of additional information given on the website for the two Williams' mentioned, (sources unknown) but thought it might be of interest to the anyone from this lineage. http://americana.ha.com/common/view_item.php?SaleNo=658&LotIdNo=43016&txtSearch=&hdnSearch=true Kind regards, Adrian Adrian Williams Williams DNA Project Administrator http://williams.genealogy.fm/ http://www.dna-pat.com/ stickamw@earthlink.net

The following new message has been added to the Williams Genealogy board under the new topic of Joshua Williams... -------------------------------- Looking for information on Joshua Williams. This Joshua was reportedly the son of Thomas Williams and Thankful MacCoon. Here is some additional details: Joshua WILLIAMS, Born. Sept. 21, 1740 South Kingston RI; Died. February. 21, 1813 in Verona NY; Married. Esther BURDICK, Children of: Joshua and Esther 1st. Joshua, Married. 1st White; 2nd. White -- sisters 2nd. Wait, Married. Davis 3rd. Ray, Born. 1781; Died. 1825; Married. 1st Kenyon; 2nd Perry 4th. Sarah, Married. Martin 5th. Susan, Married. Green 6th. Sigus 7th. Esther, Married. Armstrong 8th. Zilpha 9th. William, Married. Sallie Elbridge // Any help would be appreciated.

Whoever wrote this please email me privately at satinlady at bellsouth dot net There is a family tree of this person on Ancestry dot com. Doris ----- Original Message ----- From: <wwwuser@yourhostingaccount.com> To: <williams-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:07 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] From The Forums! - William W. Williams, b Frederick,VA, 1814-1818, served for Union, dad slave-own > The following new message has been added to the Williams Genealogy board > under the new topic of William W. Williams, b Frederick, VA, 1814-1818, > served for Union, dad slave-own... > > > -------------------------------- > > Help!!!! If you guys don't have any ideas, we give up!!! > > We've been looking for William W. Williams, born (according to his > Union military records) that he was born in Frederick, VA, in June > between 1814 and 1818. > > What we know: > > He left VA in 1834 with a son Will. He left a daughter behind. > Don't know if he had a wife. > > After that he had 4 wives (and innumerable children) in Indiana and > Illinois -- Sara Day, ?, ?, and Mary Kocher. He died and is buried > in Illinois. > > He said his dad was a slave-owner and that he HATED slavery. We're > "assuming" that he was white. > > We checked tax records, land records, censuses, everything we can > think of. We've been working on it for about 30 years, including > visiting VA to research it. > > We're beginning to think that he just made his name up when he left > VA, and started his own line. > > We're having a family reunion in Illinois this year (the last one was > 60 years ago) to find out if ANYONE knows anything that we don't. > > ANYTHING WILL BE MORE APPRECIATED THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The following new message has been added to the Williams Genealogy board under the new topic of William W. Williams, b Frederick, VA, 1814-1818, served for Union, dad slave-own... -------------------------------- Help!!!! If you guys don't have any ideas, we give up!!! We've been looking for William W. Williams, born (according to his Union military records) that he was born in Frederick, VA, in June between 1814 and 1818. What we know: He left VA in 1834 with a son Will. He left a daughter behind. Don't know if he had a wife. After that he had 4 wives (and innumerable children) in Indiana and Illinois -- Sara Day, ?, ?, and Mary Kocher. He died and is buried in Illinois. He said his dad was a slave-owner and that he HATED slavery. We're "assuming" that he was white. We checked tax records, land records, censuses, everything we can think of. We've been working on it for about 30 years, including visiting VA to research it. We're beginning to think that he just made his name up when he left VA, and started his own line. We're having a family reunion in Illinois this year (the last one was 60 years ago) to find out if ANYONE knows anything that we don't. ANYTHING WILL BE MORE APPRECIATED THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE.

Gayle: Thanks for your reply. The Graddy/Grady family that I am investigating is two Sisters one is my GGrandmother Mary Elizabeth (Lizzie) Graddy Williams bn abt 1852 KY; the other Martha Jane Graddy Evans Benson bn abt 1854 KY. The Sisters first appear in Sebastian Co., KY 1869 when Mary Elizabeth marries my GGrandfather Thomas Jefferson Williams bn Hopkins Co., KY Dec 1838. I have been told by one Graddy researcher that these Sisters are the daughters of John J. Graddy & Elizabeth Cox Graddy, married Nov 1852 in Marshall Co., KY. John J. Graddy is the son of Elisha Graddy who is from Hopkins Co., KY. I am at present trying to locate John J. & Elizabeth Cox Graddy in the 1860 census, in KY; MO; & AR. Thomas Jefferson Williams is my Dad's Grandfather. Dad is Burton F. Williams age 90, group 49 Williams DNA. wwwuser@yourhostingaccount.com wrote: The following new message has been added to the Williams Genealogy Forums, on the General Chit-Chat board under the existing topic of Re: Williams genealogy success after 15 years... -------------------------------- Carol, I have the Grady Book now. Will you give me the names again Frederick Grary and Nancy Kornegay Grady d/o William Kornegay moved to Kentucky between 1830-1835 ch: Wm Grady m. Sarah d/o o f Theresa Bailey and Lewis Grady Henry Grady John Grady Lewis Grady Elizabeth Grady m. in Duplin County, NC Wm Hines Mary Grady Nancy Grady Zilphia Grady Hester Grady Lewis Grady and Theresa Bailey (1782) m. 1-5-1802 in Duplin County, NC ch: Serena Grady abt 1802 m. Bryan Whitfield Henry Grady about 1805 m. Hester Whitfield Elisha Grady died young Alexander Grady m. Hester Whitfield Sarah Grady m. William Grady Travis Grady b. about 1820 Hopkins County, Kentucky Hope this helps. Gayle Gayle: Wondering if Elisha Graddy above might be the Elisha that I have been investigating. He went to Hopkins Co., KY quite early. He was in Marshall Co., KY in mid-life and then, apparently died in Hopkins Co., KY late in life. Will look forward to hearing from you. Carol Williams Huff ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The following new message has been added to the Williams Genealogy Forums, on the General Chit-Chat board under the existing topic of Re: Williams genealogy success after 15 years... -------------------------------- Carol, I have the Grady Book now. Will you give me the names again Frederick Grary and Nancy Kornegay Grady d/o William Kornegay moved to Kentucky between 1830-1835 ch: Wm Grady m. Sarah d/o o f Theresa Bailey and Lewis Grady Henry Grady John Grady Lewis Grady Elizabeth Grady m. in Duplin County, NC Wm Hines Mary Grady Nancy Grady Zilphia Grady Hester Grady Lewis Grady and Theresa Bailey (1782) m. 1-5-1802 in Duplin County, NC ch: Serena Grady abt 1802 m. Bryan Whitfield Henry Grady about 1805 m. Hester Whitfield Elisha Grady died young Alexander Grady m. Hester Whitfield Sarah Grady m. William Grady Travis Grady b. about 1820 Hopkins County, Kentucky Hope this helps. Gayle