Hi Adrian, First of all, I would like to say that I am pleased to find that I have been placed in a group (48) right off the bat. I really didn't expect such results so soon. I matched 25/25 with Richard. He did the 25 marker and I did the 37. I would like to see what the results would be for all 37 markers. I don't know about the rest of the participants, but I really don't know how to generate a Gedcom file. Maybe if you can walk everyone through the process, there would be more response for the uploading of pedigrees. Thanks, Trent __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

catcoop@bellsouth.net wrote: > Adrian, > > Regarding the pedigree module: can you make some suggestions for > uploading part of my tree? > > I read your instructions (which are very well written), but when I > create a file with my earliest known ancestor and his descendents, I > still get over 500 individuals. This seems like far too many to upload > to the pedigree module. > > Should I limit the tree to my direct descent only? This would > eliminate my ancestor's 9 siblings and their children. > > Catherine > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Williams" > <stickamw@earthlink.net> > To: <WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 8:49 AM > Subject: [Williams-DNA] Latest DNA Results Updated! > > >> Y'all, >> >> Well, another wild month has gone by and the project continues to >> grow both in its size as well as its activity. We are quickly >> approaching the 300 participant mark (290 and counting) which is a >> tremendous milestone. This update also realizes the addition of 2 new >> groups and a slew of new matches with existing groups. >> I have been watching things over the last long while and I drawn >> two conclusions. First, I am beginning to believe that we have made >> the turn in the project where we are seeing a good cross-section of >> Williams families out there. What I mean is that we are beginning to >> see more matches than non-matches. It used to be that a new >> participant was more likely to not match any existing participant. >> Now, judging from the way the numbers are falling out, I don't think >> that is true any longer. We have over 130 unique and unrelated >> Williams lineages in the project now and I believe we will continue >> to see more matches vs. non-matches in the coming future. >> >> The second observation is in regards to the mutation rates. As long >> as the project has been around, there have been challenges in >> understanding mutations and what they mean to our testing. >> Specifically, the primary questions have revolved around how the >> mutations impact how recent our relatedness may be. FTDNA has >> published estimated mutation rates as well as the Tip calculator to >> help answer these questions. However, thanks to the huge number of >> matched groups, I have been able to take a look at the mutations and >> develop my own opinions about them. >> In a nutshell, I am seeing that mutations between known related >> participants (i.e. two matching participants who know where their >> shared ancestor is) seem to occur at a much quicker rate that what >> FTDNA has published. In other words, I am seeing that mutations seem >> to happen much quicker that what is was first thought. I am going to >> pass these thoughts along to the folks at FTDNA and open a discussion >> with them, but I'd like to hear your thoughts as well. I am going to >> open a topic on the Forums about this and would encourage you to add >> your 2-cents worth. >> >> Finally, a word about the new pedigree module. Activity on this >> has been slow out of the gate...to date, we only have about 18 >> pedigrees (out of nearly 300) loaded in the module. That equals out >> to about 6% of our participants. I would like to have your feedback >> on this. Is there anything I can do to encourage the use of the >> module? What is keeping you from adding your pedigree to it? Please >> help me help you!! >> >> Anyway, on to the latest results!! >> >> Group 5 - has three new members...James, Richard and Nona. I >> strongly encourage everyone in Group 5 who hasn't already done so to >> upgrade to the 25-marker kit. A goo point to keep in mind >> here...first, the upgrade has helped at least one person so far in >> finding a true match with one of the other groups. Because of your >> DNA signature, I won't be able to match you up with anyone until the >> upgrade is done. >> >> Group 7 - has a new member...Alva's a perfect 12/12 and has >> upgraded to the 25-marker kit to be sure. >> Group 8 - has a new member...James is a 24/25 match with the group! >> >> Group 9 - Both Judson and Marvin's panel 3 numbers are in. >> >> Group 15 - The IIb marker for Bill has been corrected >> >> Group 17 - Donald has a new website link >> >> Group 20 - Lawrence is both a new participant and a new matching >> member of the group. >> >> Group 22 - Ward is the latest member to this group. >> >> Group 23 - John is the newest matching member of this group. >> >> Group 24 - George is an incredible 37/37 match with this group (David) >> >> Group 32 - Another NGS project crossover, Robert, is the latest >> member here. >> >> Group 40 - Melvin's panel 2 and 3 numbers are in. >> >> Group 41 - Both Bobby and James' panel 3 numbers are in. >> >> Group 42 - W.P.'s panel 3 numbers are in. >> >> Group 46 - Harvey's panel 3 numbers as well as his SNP results are in. >> >> Groups 47, 48 and 49 - NEW GROUPS!! - all with matches out to >> 25-markers and beyond... >> >> No Matches - There are a number of new members in this group: >> Nick, Paul C., John L, Robert A, Leroy, Michael J, Erban, Sherman, >> Earl, Victor, and Paul H. Keep the faith y'all...I myself spent >> about a year in this group waiting for a match and now I have more >> cousins that I can connect!! >> >> I hope everyone has a great weekend and I'll be talking again soon! >> >> As always, >> Adrian >> >> Adrian Williams >> Williams DNA Project Administrator >> >> >> ==== WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List ==== >> Williams DNA Project Information and Results - >> http://williams.genealogy.fm/. If anyone has any problems with the >> list, please email the moderator (Adrian Williams) directly at >> stickamw@earthlink.net >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List ==== > Williams DNA Project Information and Results - > http://williams.genealogy.fm/. If anyone has any problems with the > list, please email the moderator (Adrian Williams) directly at > stickamw@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > Catherine, Actually, 500 is not a bad number at all. I would suggest to everyone to include all the descendants of your earliest Williams ancestor. For some folks, this could amount to a very large number of folks...my own is over 3000. So, don't worry about your files size...getting the information out there is more important that how large the file is. I have ton is server space available, so put it out there! As always Adrian

Gayle Miller wrote: > Can someone walk me through how to remove a submitted GEDCOM file from the Williams genealogy site. > Thank you, > Gayle Miller > > > ==== WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List ==== > Williams DNA Project Information and Results - http://williams.genealogy.fm/. If anyone has any problems with the list, please email the moderator (Adrian Williams) directly at stickamw@earthlink.net > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > Gayle (and all!) If you make a mistake on your GEDCOM, don't fret! It can be removed...but at the moment, I am the only one who can remove them (which I have done!). The TNG module is most definitely a work in progress...I have a number of ideas already that would be smart to add to it, mainly with some type of user profile page, where y'all can do these kinds of things without having to wait for me! If anyone has any other ideas on what would be good to do, please let me know! Adrian

Jim, It has been removed thankfully. We submitted a GEDCOM thinking the notes had been excluded, but they were included. Will try again with a newly created abbreviated file. Want to include just three to four generations not 6,000 names. We will eventually get it right. Thank you for responding, Gayle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Williams" <chuckeyj@xtn.net> To: <WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] GEDCOM FILES > Hi Gayle, > > I think Adrian has to do it. > > Jim Williams > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gayle Miller" <gayletx@bellsouth.net> > To: <WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:38 AM > Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] GEDCOM FILES > > >> Can someone walk me through how to remove a submitted GEDCOM file from >> the Williams genealogy site. >> Thank you, >> Gayle Miller >> >> >> ==== WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List ==== >> Williams DNA Project Information and Results - >> http://williams.genealogy.fm/. If anyone has any problems with the list, >> please email the moderator (Adrian Williams) directly at >> stickamw@earthlink.net >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List ==== > Williams DNA Project Information and Results - > http://williams.genealogy.fm/. If anyone has any problems with the list, > please email the moderator (Adrian Williams) directly at > stickamw@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi Gayle, I think Adrian has to do it. Jim Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gayle Miller" <gayletx@bellsouth.net> To: <WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:38 AM Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] GEDCOM FILES > Can someone walk me through how to remove a submitted GEDCOM file from the > Williams genealogy site. > Thank you, > Gayle Miller > > > ==== WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List ==== > Williams DNA Project Information and Results - > http://williams.genealogy.fm/. If anyone has any problems with the list, > please email the moderator (Adrian Williams) directly at > stickamw@earthlink.net > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Can someone walk me through how to remove a submitted GEDCOM file from the Williams genealogy site. Thank you, Gayle Miller

Adrian, Regarding the pedigree module: can you make some suggestions for uploading part of my tree? I read your instructions (which are very well written), but when I create a file with my earliest known ancestor and his descendents, I still get over 500 individuals. This seems like far too many to upload to the pedigree module. Should I limit the tree to my direct descent only? This would eliminate my ancestor's 9 siblings and their children. Catherine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Williams" <stickamw@earthlink.net> To: <WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 8:49 AM Subject: [Williams-DNA] Latest DNA Results Updated! > Y'all, > > Well, another wild month has gone by and the project continues to grow > both in its size as well as its activity. We are quickly approaching the > 300 participant mark (290 and counting) which is a tremendous milestone. > This update also realizes the addition of 2 new groups and a slew of new > matches with existing groups. > I have been watching things over the last long while and I drawn two > conclusions. First, I am beginning to believe that we have made the turn > in the project where we are seeing a good cross-section of Williams > families out there. What I mean is that we are beginning to see more > matches than non-matches. It used to be that a new participant was more > likely to not match any existing participant. Now, judging from the way > the numbers are falling out, I don't think that is true any longer. We > have over 130 unique and unrelated Williams lineages in the project now > and I believe we will continue to see more matches vs. non-matches in the > coming future. > > The second observation is in regards to the mutation rates. As long as > the project has been around, there have been challenges in understanding > mutations and what they mean to our testing. Specifically, the primary > questions have revolved around how the mutations impact how recent our > relatedness may be. FTDNA has published estimated mutation rates as well > as the Tip calculator to help answer these questions. However, thanks to > the huge number of matched groups, I have been able to take a look at the > mutations and develop my own opinions about them. > In a nutshell, I am seeing that mutations between known related > participants (i.e. two matching participants who know where their shared > ancestor is) seem to occur at a much quicker rate that what FTDNA has > published. In other words, I am seeing that mutations seem to happen much > quicker that what is was first thought. I am going to pass these thoughts > along to the folks at FTDNA and open a discussion with them, but I'd like > to hear your thoughts as well. I am going to open a topic on the Forums > about this and would encourage you to add your 2-cents worth. > > Finally, a word about the new pedigree module. Activity on this has > been slow out of the gate...to date, we only have about 18 pedigrees (out > of nearly 300) loaded in the module. That equals out to about 6% of our > participants. I would like to have your feedback on this. Is there > anything I can do to encourage the use of the module? What is keeping you > from adding your pedigree to it? Please help me help you!! > > Anyway, on to the latest results!! > > Group 5 - has three new members...James, Richard and Nona. I strongly > encourage everyone in Group 5 who hasn't already done so to upgrade to the > 25-marker kit. A goo point to keep in mind here...first, the upgrade has > helped at least one person so far in finding a true match with one of the > other groups. Because of your DNA signature, I won't be able to match you > up with anyone until the upgrade is done. > > Group 7 - has a new member...Alva's a perfect 12/12 and has upgraded to > the 25-marker kit to be sure. > Group 8 - has a new member...James is a 24/25 match with the group! > > Group 9 - Both Judson and Marvin's panel 3 numbers are in. > > Group 15 - The IIb marker for Bill has been corrected > > Group 17 - Donald has a new website link > > Group 20 - Lawrence is both a new participant and a new matching member > of the group. > > Group 22 - Ward is the latest member to this group. > > Group 23 - John is the newest matching member of this group. > > Group 24 - George is an incredible 37/37 match with this group (David) > > Group 32 - Another NGS project crossover, Robert, is the latest member > here. > > Group 40 - Melvin's panel 2 and 3 numbers are in. > > Group 41 - Both Bobby and James' panel 3 numbers are in. > > Group 42 - W.P.'s panel 3 numbers are in. > > Group 46 - Harvey's panel 3 numbers as well as his SNP results are in. > > Groups 47, 48 and 49 - NEW GROUPS!! - all with matches out to 25-markers > and beyond... > > No Matches - There are a number of new members in this group: Nick, > Paul C., John L, Robert A, Leroy, Michael J, Erban, Sherman, Earl, Victor, > and Paul H. Keep the faith y'all...I myself spent about a year in this > group waiting for a match and now I have more cousins that I can connect!! > > I hope everyone has a great weekend and I'll be talking again soon! > > As always, > Adrian > > Adrian Williams > Williams DNA Project Administrator > > > ==== WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List ==== > Williams DNA Project Information and Results - > http://williams.genealogy.fm/. If anyone has any problems with the list, > please email the moderator (Adrian Williams) directly at > stickamw@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Y'all, Well, another wild month has gone by and the project continues to grow both in its size as well as its activity. We are quickly approaching the 300 participant mark (290 and counting) which is a tremendous milestone. This update also realizes the addition of 2 new groups and a slew of new matches with existing groups. I have been watching things over the last long while and I drawn two conclusions. First, I am beginning to believe that we have made the turn in the project where we are seeing a good cross-section of Williams families out there. What I mean is that we are beginning to see more matches than non-matches. It used to be that a new participant was more likely to not match any existing participant. Now, judging from the way the numbers are falling out, I don't think that is true any longer. We have over 130 unique and unrelated Williams lineages in the project now and I believe we will continue to see more matches vs. non-matches in the coming future. The second observation is in regards to the mutation rates. As long as the project has been around, there have been challenges in understanding mutations and what they mean to our testing. Specifically, the primary questions have revolved around how the mutations impact how recent our relatedness may be. FTDNA has published estimated mutation rates as well as the Tip calculator to help answer these questions. However, thanks to the huge number of matched groups, I have been able to take a look at the mutations and develop my own opinions about them. In a nutshell, I am seeing that mutations between known related participants (i.e. two matching participants who know where their shared ancestor is) seem to occur at a much quicker rate that what FTDNA has published. In other words, I am seeing that mutations seem to happen much quicker that what is was first thought. I am going to pass these thoughts along to the folks at FTDNA and open a discussion with them, but I'd like to hear your thoughts as well. I am going to open a topic on the Forums about this and would encourage you to add your 2-cents worth. Finally, a word about the new pedigree module. Activity on this has been slow out of the gate...to date, we only have about 18 pedigrees (out of nearly 300) loaded in the module. That equals out to about 6% of our participants. I would like to have your feedback on this. Is there anything I can do to encourage the use of the module? What is keeping you from adding your pedigree to it? Please help me help you!! Anyway, on to the latest results!! Group 5 - has three new members...James, Richard and Nona. I strongly encourage everyone in Group 5 who hasn't already done so to upgrade to the 25-marker kit. A goo point to keep in mind here...first, the upgrade has helped at least one person so far in finding a true match with one of the other groups. Because of your DNA signature, I won't be able to match you up with anyone until the upgrade is done. Group 7 - has a new member...Alva's a perfect 12/12 and has upgraded to the 25-marker kit to be sure. Group 8 - has a new member...James is a 24/25 match with the group! Group 9 - Both Judson and Marvin's panel 3 numbers are in. Group 15 - The IIb marker for Bill has been corrected Group 17 - Donald has a new website link Group 20 - Lawrence is both a new participant and a new matching member of the group. Group 22 - Ward is the latest member to this group. Group 23 - John is the newest matching member of this group. Group 24 - George is an incredible 37/37 match with this group (David) Group 32 - Another NGS project crossover, Robert, is the latest member here. Group 40 - Melvin's panel 2 and 3 numbers are in. Group 41 - Both Bobby and James' panel 3 numbers are in. Group 42 - W.P.'s panel 3 numbers are in. Group 46 - Harvey's panel 3 numbers as well as his SNP results are in. Groups 47, 48 and 49 - NEW GROUPS!! - all with matches out to 25-markers and beyond... No Matches - There are a number of new members in this group: Nick, Paul C., John L, Robert A, Leroy, Michael J, Erban, Sherman, Earl, Victor, and Paul H. Keep the faith y'all...I myself spent about a year in this group waiting for a match and now I have more cousins that I can connect!! I hope everyone has a great weekend and I'll be talking again soon! As always, Adrian Adrian Williams Williams DNA Project Administrator

i hope the b*stards rot in hell! have a lovely day, williams cousins! cousin jayster in sc :)

Yeah. It wasn't a surprise here. One of my co-workers came up to me at lunch and asked, "Did you hear the news about the Enron trial?" To which I replied, "Did you ever expect any other verdict?" Our little town has needed this bit of closure. Now for the sentencing, and for the government to confiscate (I hope) some of Skilling's and Lay's still multi-millions in net worth. They're estimating the bloody trial alone cost around $31 million, all attorneys fees totaled. Now back to you're regularly scheduled genetic genealogy programming... -----Original Message----- From: katherineone@juno.com [mailto:katherineone@juno.com] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 5:27 AM To: WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Williams-DNA] unsubscribe I worked for Enron Hughes. Guess how I feel??? jr. Just think how Lay and Skilling feel tonight. --Hughes in Houston ==== WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List ==== Williams DNA Project Information and Results - http://williams.genealogy.fm/. If anyone has any problems with the list, please email the moderator (Adrian Williams) directly at stickamw@earthlink.net ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Thanks jr > I feel sorry for everyone that got the screws from them. > Phil > > >I worked for Enron Hughes. Guess how I feel??? jr. > > > > Just think how Lay and Skilling feel tonight. > > > > --Hughes in Houston

I feel sorry for everyone that got the screws from them. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: <katherineone@juno.com> To: <WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [Williams-DNA] unsubscribe >I worked for Enron Hughes. Guess how I feel??? jr. > > Just think how Lay and Skilling feel tonight. > > --Hughes in Houston > > > ==== WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List ==== > Williams DNA Project Information and Results - > http://williams.genealogy.fm/. If anyone has any problems with the list, > please email the moderator (Adrian Williams) directly at > stickamw@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I worked for Enron Hughes. Guess how I feel??? jr. Just think how Lay and Skilling feel tonight. --Hughes in Houston

TaxBizWhiz. Dude. To leave WILLIAMS-DNA-L, send email to WILLIAMS-DNA-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave WILLIAMS-DNA-D, do the same thing with WILLIAMS-DNA-D-request@rootsweb.com. We luv ya', man. Just think how Lay and Skilling feel tonight. =:0 --Hughes in Houston -----Original Message----- From: taxbizwhiz@aol.com [mailto:taxbizwhiz@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:44 AM To: WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Williams-DNA] unsubscribe unsubscribe -----Original Message----- From: Sergiac2@netscape.net To: WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 25 May 2006 01:32:57 -0400 Subject: [Williams-DNA] RE: Y-DNA DYS VALUES Hi all, I just got my test results back and I sort of understand everything but the Y-DNA DYS VALUES. Can anyone tell me briefly what the columns and numbers mean? Thanks Trent PS You are doing a great service Adrian __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ==== WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List ==== Williams DNA Project Information and Results - http://williams.genealogy.fm/. If anyone has any problems with the list, please email the moderator (Adrian Williams) directly at stickamw@earthlink.net ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ==== WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List ==== Williams DNA Project Information and Results - http://williams.genealogy.fm/. If anyone has any problems with the list, please email the moderator (Adrian Williams) directly at stickamw@earthlink.net ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Trent, Here is a link to some information that is posted in the Forums about the numbers and what they mean. Keep in mind when reading this posting, that DYS is the same as Locus and the posting will make a lot more sense! http://forums.genealogy.fm/forums/index.php?topic=15.0 As always, Adrian -----Original Message----- From: catcoop@bellsouth.net [mailto:catcoop@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:17 AM To: WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Williams-DNA] RE: Y-DNA DYS VALUES Hi Trent, I can provide a very basic explanation, but someone else on the list could probably provide a more detailed, scientifically correct explanation. The DYS numbers (columns) are simply numbers assigned to identify the DNA markers tested on each person. The numbers in the rows and under each marker represent your specific values for each of the markers. For example, one person might have a value of 12 at DYS388 while another person might have 14 at DYS388. These values (12 and 14) represent the number of times a short pattern of nucleotide bases repeated in a row on your marker. If you took a 25-marker test and matched another test on 24/25 markers or 25/25 markers, then you would be considered a match within a genealogically relevant timeframe. Hope this helps! Catherine ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sergiac2@netscape.net> To: <WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:32 AM Subject: [Williams-DNA] RE: Y-DNA DYS VALUES > Hi all, > > I just got my test results back and I sort of understand everything but > the Y-DNA DYS VALUES. Can anyone tell me briefly what the columns and > numbers mean? > > Thanks Trent > > PS You are doing a great service Adrian > > __________________________________________________________________ > Switch to Netscape Internet Service. > As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at > http://isp.netscape.com/register > > Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > > New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer > Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. > Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp > > > ==== WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List ==== > Williams DNA Project Information and Results - > http://williams.genealogy.fm/. If anyone has any problems with the list, > please email the moderator (Adrian Williams) directly at > stickamw@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > ==== WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List ==== Williams DNA Project Information and Results - http://williams.genealogy.fm/. If anyone has any problems with the list, please email the moderator (Adrian Williams) directly at stickamw@earthlink.net ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi Trent, I can provide a very basic explanation, but someone else on the list could probably provide a more detailed, scientifically correct explanation. The DYS numbers (columns) are simply numbers assigned to identify the DNA markers tested on each person. The numbers in the rows and under each marker represent your specific values for each of the markers. For example, one person might have a value of 12 at DYS388 while another person might have 14 at DYS388. These values (12 and 14) represent the number of times a short pattern of nucleotide bases repeated in a row on your marker. If you took a 25-marker test and matched another test on 24/25 markers or 25/25 markers, then you would be considered a match within a genealogically relevant timeframe. Hope this helps! Catherine ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sergiac2@netscape.net> To: <WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:32 AM Subject: [Williams-DNA] RE: Y-DNA DYS VALUES > Hi all, > > I just got my test results back and I sort of understand everything but > the Y-DNA DYS VALUES. Can anyone tell me briefly what the columns and > numbers mean? > > Thanks Trent > > PS You are doing a great service Adrian > > __________________________________________________________________ > Switch to Netscape Internet Service. > As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at > http://isp.netscape.com/register > > Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > > New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer > Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. > Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp > > > ==== WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List ==== > Williams DNA Project Information and Results - > http://williams.genealogy.fm/. If anyone has any problems with the list, > please email the moderator (Adrian Williams) directly at > stickamw@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

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Bobbye, Do you have any HENSLEYs mixed in with your HENLEY? In VA., KY., or IL.? Kay C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobbye Davis To: WILLIAMS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:36 AM Subject: [Williams-DNA] Expanded Marker Testing I belong also to the Henley List because my grand father Robert Williams married Leona Henley. Here is some more information concerning the various markers. There is a 67 marker. http://www.familytreedna.com/ Bobbye Williams Davis ==== WILLIAMS-DNA Mailing List ==== Williams DNA Project Information and Results - http://williams.genealogy.fm/. If anyone has any problems with the list, please email the moderator (Adrian Williams) directly at stickamw@earthlink.net ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx