Those who are searching for Williams (or any other) ancestors who were alive in 1880 should seek out a nearby LDS center. Telephone and inquire about the opening days and hours. They generally keep short hours as they are manned/womaned by volunteers. I am sure all LDS centers which have computers must now have the 1880 census on CD-Roms (which you can purchase for yourself for about $50). The staff at LDS will show you how to use these CD-ROMS to TRY to find your ancestor. Some have the census (1880) on the internet, but my particular LDS center is having trouble with its server. You know how it goes! Be aware that your ancestor may have been listed by a name other than the one you are seeking, so use all kinds of tricks to outsmart the computer. Besides, they, the CD-ROMs are transcribed censuses, and the person who was trying to read the handwriting MAY have been unable to read the names. One or two filmed censuses at which I have looked have big blotches of ink where a vital piece of info was recorded--and that is the life of a genealogist--lots of roadblocks. By the 1880s Williams was generally standardized in spelling. So keep looking. I was searching for a man who the family called Benjamin Franklin xxxx [surname left out to protect the innocent]. Well, in one census he is called merely Frank, and in another he is called Ben F. So think of all the ways this man could have labeled himself--or been labeled by the family. A list of over 3,500 LDS Fam Hist Centers around the world can be found at www.familysearch.org The link to the centers is at the lower left. By the way, there are all kinds of forms on that website--I just learned about them in a lecture, and then there plenty of research outlines for every state and most European countries, which generally cost $1.00 plus tax at your LDS center. Be aware, however, that if the printout is multiple pages, it may be cheaper to buy the guide than to print it out. Also, check out the catalog for some of the more uncommon surnames in your families. Don't try Williams, or your computer may lock up!!! Good luck to all you Sherlock Holmeses out there! E.W.Wallace