I think the the 1870 census did NOT have to given relationships. Kay C. Kay C. Sorry, I correct myself. > > >> No, I have no siblings for John E. Williams. An 1870 census check >> unearths only one family where there is a John Williams of the correct age >> (8-10) and he appears to be an orphan or adoptee. There is no >> relationship stated. >> >> This is what little I do know about John E. Williams: >> >> 1900 Census says born May 1861. >> >> 1882 Greene County has a marriage license for John and his wife Sarah Ann >> Clifford of Alton, IL >> He has a son named Frederick born in 1880 in Roodhouse, Greene, IL. Yes, >> 1880, not 1882. He has a daughter named Mary Ebbert, born in Roodhouse, >> Greene, IL in 1882. >> >> In 1884, he is living in Martinsburg Precinct, Audrain County, MO. He has >> a son named Charles Elden Williams, born there in 1884, and a daughter >> named Florence Valretta (my grandmother), born there in 1886. >> >> He is in Alton, Madison, IL, in 1890, as he shows up in the Alton City >> Directory. He has a daughter born there in 1893 named Frances and his >> final child, Sarah Belle, born there in 1896. >> >> He shows up on the 1900 Census in Danville, Vermilion, IL, working as a >> Mining Inspector. >> >> He shows up on 1910 Census in Worden, Madison, IL. From there, he >> disappears. >> >> This is what I know of his children: Frederick dies in Washington >> Township, Pike, IN sometime between 1920 and 1930. A distant family >> member, not a Williams surname, says that one of John's sons fatally shot >> and killed Frederick while trying to protect his mother, Minne Downey >> Williams, from his father. The children are then split up and living with >> various relatives. Minnie dies later of breast cancer. >> >> Mary Ebbert marries Thomas Vice and dies in Breeze, Clinton, IL. >> >> Charles E. disappears in Illinois after the 1900 Census, although I have >> found a Charles E. Williams in Kansas who may be this Charles. I am >> trying to document that now. >> >> Frances Williams, according to her neice/my aunt, says that Frances died >> when she was between 19 and 21 years of age of blood poisoning from >> printer's ink. No date or location is known. >> >> Florence married William Milton Best and lived her entire adult life in >> Worden, Madison, IL. >> >> Sarah Belle Williams married a Homer Fulford of Indiana, then a James >> Meyer in Alton, IL, and was accidently shot to death by her husband in a >> bar that they owned. >> >> Tragic family in many respects, but that is all I know of John and his >> family. >> >> Thanks for asking. . . >> >> >> ----Original Message Follows---- >> From: "N & K Chestnut" <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Two More Lost John Williams. . . >> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 11:37:16 -0800 >> >> Do you know any names for siblings of your John E. WILLIAMS b. May 1861 in >> Alton or Danville, IL.? >> >> I have a John WILLIAMS born about 1801 and died about 1854, poss. m. 1838 >> to Nancy Elizabeth BIRD. >> >> Kay C. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myra Best Christeck" >> <[email protected]> >> : <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 7:33 AM >> Subject: [WILLIAMS] Two More Lost John Williams. . . >> >> >>>Hi. Since John Williams are up for location searches , I'd like to throw >>>my two Johns into the pot. >>> >>>1. John E. (no clue what the E. stands for), born May 1861 in: >>> >>> Alton, Madison, IL or Danville, Vermilion, IL. >>> >>>2. Coal miner and lived in Alton, IL, Audrain County, MO; Danville, >>>Vermilion, IL: and Worden, Madison, IL. >>> >>>3. John D. (possibly Daniel) Williams, father of John E. Williams, living >>>in either Greene, Jersey, or Madison County in the early 1880s, possibly >>>Alton. >>> >>>I wish I could tell you more. 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