No, I have no siblings for John E. Williams. An 1870 census check unearths only one family where there is a John Williams of the correct age (8-10) and he appears to be an orphan or adoptee. There is no relationship stated. This is what little I do know about John E. Williams: 1900 Census says born May 1861. 1882 Greene County has a marriage license for John and his wife Sarah Ann Clifford of Alton, IL He has a son named Frederick born in 1880 in Roodhouse, Greene, IL. Yes, 1880, not 1882. He has a daughter named Mary Ebbert, born in Roodhouse, Greene, IL in 1882. In 1884, he is living in Martinsburg Precinct, Audrain County, MO. He has a son named Charles Elden Williams, born there in 1884, and a daughter named Florence Valretta (my grandmother), born there in 1886. He is in Alton, Madison, IL, in 1890, as he shows up in the Alton City Directory. He has a daughter born there in 1893 named Frances and his final child, Sarah Belle, born there in 1896. He shows up on the 1900 Census in Danville, Vermilion, IL, working as a Mining Inspector. He shows up on 1910 Census in Worden, Madison, IL. From there, he disappears. This is what I know of his children: Frederick dies in Washington Township, Pike, IN sometime between 1920 and 1930. A distant family member, not a Williams surname, says that one of John's sons fatally shot and killed Frederick while trying to protect his mother, Minne Downey Williams, from his father. The children are then split up and living with various relatives. Minnie dies later of breast cancer. Mary Ebbert marries Thomas Vice and dies in Breeze, Clinton, IL. Charles E. disappears in Illinois after the 1900 Census, although I have found a Charles E. Williams in Kansas who may be this Charles. I am trying to document that now. Frances Williams, according to her neice/my aunt, says that Frances died when she was between 19 and 21 years of age of blood poisoning from printer's ink. No date or location is known. Florence married William Milton Best and lived her entire adult life in Worden, Madison, IL. Sarah Belle Williams married a Homer Fulford of Indiana, then a James Meyer in Alton, IL, and was accidently shot to death by her husband in a bar that they owned. Tragic family in many respects, but that is all I know of John and his family. Thanks for asking. . . ----Original Message Follows---- From: "N & K Chestnut" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Two More Lost John Williams. . . Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 11:37:16 -0800 Do you know any names for siblings of your John E. WILLIAMS b. May 1861 in Alton or Danville, IL.? I have a John WILLIAMS born about 1801 and died about 1854, poss. m. 1838 to Nancy Elizabeth BIRD. Kay C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myra Best Christeck" <[email protected]> : <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 7:33 AM Subject: [WILLIAMS] Two More Lost John Williams. . . >Hi. Since John Williams are up for location searches , I'd like to throw >my two Johns into the pot. > >1. John E. (no clue what the E. stands for), born May 1861 in: > > Alton, Madison, IL or Danville, Vermilion, IL. > >2. Coal miner and lived in Alton, IL, Audrain County, MO; Danville, >Vermilion, IL: and Worden, Madison, IL. > >3. John D. (possibly Daniel) Williams, father of John E. Williams, living >in either Greene, Jersey, or Madison County in the early 1880s, possibly >Alton. > >I wish I could tell you more. I would love to hear from anyone researching >Williams in Illinois. > >Thanks, >Myra > > > >==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== >List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html >Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx