I think the the 1870 census did have to given relationships. Kay C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myra Best Christeck" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Two More Lost John Williams. . . > No, I have no siblings for John E. Williams. An 1870 census check > unearths only one family where there is a John Williams of the correct age > (8-10) and he appears to be an orphan or adoptee. There is no > relationship stated. > > This is what little I do know about John E. Williams: > > 1900 Census says born May 1861. > > 1882 Greene County has a marriage license for John and his wife Sarah Ann > Clifford of Alton, IL > He has a son named Frederick born in 1880 in Roodhouse, Greene, IL. Yes, > 1880, not 1882. He has a daughter named Mary Ebbert, born in Roodhouse, > Greene, IL in 1882. > > In 1884, he is living in Martinsburg Precinct, Audrain County, MO. He has > a son named Charles Elden Williams, born there in 1884, and a daughter > named Florence Valretta (my grandmother), born there in 1886. > > He is in Alton, Madison, IL, in 1890, as he shows up in the Alton City > Directory. He has a daughter born there in 1893 named Frances and his > final child, Sarah Belle, born there in 1896. > > He shows up on the 1900 Census in Danville, Vermilion, IL, working as a > Mining Inspector. > > He shows up on 1910 Census in Worden, Madison, IL. From there, he > disappears. > > This is what I know of his children: Frederick dies in Washington > Township, Pike, IN sometime between 1920 and 1930. A distant family > member, not a Williams surname, says that one of John's sons fatally shot > and killed Frederick while trying to protect his mother, Minne Downey > Williams, from his father. The children are then split up and living with > various relatives. Minnie dies later of breast cancer. > > Mary Ebbert marries Thomas Vice and dies in Breeze, Clinton, IL. > > Charles E. disappears in Illinois after the 1900 Census, although I have > found a Charles E. Williams in Kansas who may be this Charles. I am > trying to document that now. > > Frances Williams, according to her neice/my aunt, says that Frances died > when she was between 19 and 21 years of age of blood poisoning from > printer's ink. No date or location is known. > > Florence married William Milton Best and lived her entire adult life in > Worden, Madison, IL. > > Sarah Belle Williams married a Homer Fulford of Indiana, then a James > Meyer in Alton, IL, and was accidently shot to death by her husband in a > bar that they owned. > > Tragic family in many respects, but that is all I know of John and his > family. > > Thanks for asking. . . > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "N & K Chestnut" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Two More Lost John Williams. . . > Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 11:37:16 -0800 > > Do you know any names for siblings of your John E. WILLIAMS b. May 1861 in > Alton or Danville, IL.? > > I have a John WILLIAMS born about 1801 and died about 1854, poss. m. 1838 > to Nancy Elizabeth BIRD. > > Kay C. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myra Best Christeck" > <[email protected]> > : <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 7:33 AM > Subject: [WILLIAMS] Two More Lost John Williams. . . > > >>Hi. Since John Williams are up for location searches , I'd like to throw >>my two Johns into the pot. >> >>1. John E. (no clue what the E. stands for), born May 1861 in: >> >> Alton, Madison, IL or Danville, Vermilion, IL. >> >>2. Coal miner and lived in Alton, IL, Audrain County, MO; Danville, >>Vermilion, IL: and Worden, Madison, IL. >> >>3. John D. (possibly Daniel) Williams, father of John E. Williams, living >>in either Greene, Jersey, or Madison County in the early 1880s, possibly >>Alton. >> >>I wish I could tell you more. 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