Still seeking clues; and will share data. Aaron believed to be of Bedford co. Tenn. parentage mid 1700's, Frederick maybe of German descent of Ill., maybe Chicago area. Rantoul(sp) Co., Eliza Cooper WILLIAMS LEE, twice married , have LEE line and two WILLIAMS children but who is husband #1 William WILLIAMS/ , William WILLIAMS husband of Ann TITUS last known 1860 in Henry Co. Mo. HELP.Bud. ----- Original Message ----- From: <williams-request@rootsweb.com> To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 1:04 AM Subject: WILLIAMS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 55 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Allumbee (Allen B.) WILLIAMS & James WILLIAMS > (F2bemee@wmconnect.com) > 2. Re: Allumbee (Allen B.) WILLIAMS & James WILLIAMS > (F2bemee@wmconnect.com) > 3. our new Williams-Chat list (Carol C-H) > 4. Re: Allumbee (Allen B.) WILLIAMS & James WILLIAMS > (SHERYL WILLIAMS) > 5. Re: To Sheryl WILLIAMS (N & K Chestnut) > 6. Re: To Sheryl WILLIAMS (SHERYL WILLIAMS) > 7. Re: To Sheryl WILLIAMS (N & K Chestnut) > 8. Re: To Sheryl WILLIAMS (SHERYL WILLIAMS) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:57:55 EDT > From: F2bemee@wmconnect.com > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Allumbee (Allen B.) WILLIAMS & James WILLIAMS > To: williams@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c72.ebd71a5.332718d3@wmconnect.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi has this line tested with Adrian Williams"s DNA project? TIA > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:41:37 EDT > From: F2bemee@wmconnect.com > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Allumbee (Allen B.) WILLIAMS & James WILLIAMS > To: williams@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c48.ba24966.33272311@wmconnect.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > http://williams.genealogy.fm/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:24:57 -0500 > From: Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> > Subject: [WILLIAMS] our new Williams-Chat list > To: Williams@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070312171922.0274e868@netdoor.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > We now have an additional WILLIAMS list for those of you who enjoy > chatting about things that relate to your ancestors and family but do > not relate directly to genealogy. To sub, go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams-chat.html or just > send a post to Williams-Chat-request@rootsweb.com with SUBSCRIBE in > the subject line. > > > Carol > http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/ > <cch@netdoor.com>, <cch@jam.rr.com>, <carolch@bellsouth.net> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:54:47 -0700 (PDT) > From: SHERYL WILLIAMS <sherwillia60@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Allumbee (Allen B.) WILLIAMS & James WILLIAMS > To: williams@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <189287.61075.qm@web82015.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi, > > Not certain if there are other any descendants who have tested on this line. My brother plans to test but this will only take us back to Malkijah Williams who is our grgrgrgrandfather. His mother Mary Elizabeth (Williams) Williams Turner is the daughter of Allumbee. > > However, family history states that she first married her cousin William Williams, which is perhaps from one of Allumbee (Allen B.) Williams' brother's sons? So perhaps, indirectly the DNA test will solve both of these lines if they are ultimately through the same ancestor > > Sheryl > > F2bemee@wmconnect.com wrote: > Hi has this line tested with Adrian Williams"s DNA project? TIA > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:31:21 -0700 > From: "N & K Chestnut" <nkopportunity@gorge.net> > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] To Sheryl WILLIAMS > To: <williams@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <001501c76528$739fd3e0$0201a8c0@nednulb6bx16vi> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > To - SHERYL WILLIAMS > > Sheryl Williams wrote --- > > "His mother Mary Elizabeth (Williams) Williams Turner" > "My brother plans to test" > > Questions > Sheryl, are you a WILLIAMS by birth or by marriage? > Sheryl, is your brother a WILLIAMS or a TURNER by birth? > > DNA testing to check male lineage is called "yDNA". It will be the male line of his father that you will be testing. If you test a male's "mtDNA" (female DNA), you will be checking/testing his mother's female line (his mother's mother, etc.). Therefore, you will NOT be testing his mother's WILLIAMS line. > > Kay C. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: SHERYL WILLIAMS > To: williams@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:54 PM > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Allumbee (Allen B.) WILLIAMS & James WILLIAMS > > > Hi, > > Not certain if there are other any descendants who have tested on this line. My brother plans to test but this will only take us back to Malkijah Williams who is our grgrgrgrandfather. His mother Mary Elizabeth (Williams) Williams Turner is the daughter of Allumbee. > > However, family history states that she first married her cousin William Williams, which is perhaps from one of Allumbee (Allen B.) Williams' brother's sons? So perhaps, indirectly the DNA test will solve both of these lines if they are ultimately through the same ancestor > > Sheryl > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:39:56 -0700 (PDT) > From: SHERYL WILLIAMS <sherwillia60@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] To Sheryl WILLIAMS > To: williams@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <399150.42713.qm@web82001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > We are both WILLIAMS by birth. > > N & K Chestnut <nkopportunity@gorge.net> wrote: To - SHERYL WILLIAMS > > Sheryl Williams wrote --- > > "His mother Mary Elizabeth (Williams) Williams Turner" > "My brother plans to test" > > Questions > Sheryl, are you a WILLIAMS by birth or by marriage? > Sheryl, is your brother a WILLIAMS or a TURNER by birth? > > DNA testing to check male lineage is called "yDNA". It will be the male line of his father that you will be testing. If you test a male's "mtDNA" (female DNA), you will be checking/testing his mother's female line (his mother's mother, etc.). Therefore, you will NOT be testing his mother's WILLIAMS line. > > Kay C. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: SHERYL WILLIAMS > To: williams@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:54 PM > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Allumbee (Allen B.) WILLIAMS & James WILLIAMS > > > Hi, > > Not certain if there are other any descendants who have tested on this line. My brother plans to test but this will only take us back to Malkijah Williams who is our grgrgrgrandfather. His mother Mary Elizabeth (Williams) Williams Turner is the daughter of Allumbee. > > However, family history states that she first married her cousin William Williams, which is perhaps from one of Allumbee (Allen B.) Williams' brother's sons? So perhaps, indirectly the DNA test will solve both of these lines if they are ultimately through the same ancestor > > Sheryl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:05:53 -0700 > From: "N & K Chestnut" <nkopportunity@gorge.net> > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] To Sheryl WILLIAMS > To: <williams@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <003501c7652d$46f16f70$0201a8c0@nednulb6bx16vi> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > If you are both WILLIAMSes by birth, test your brother, and you will be testing his WILLIAMS line. As a female/daughter, you will NOT have any of your Father's yDNA (male DNA). > > Kay C. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: SHERYL WILLIAMS > To: williams@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:39 PM > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] To Sheryl WILLIAMS > > > We are both WILLIAMS by birth. > > N & K Chestnut <nkopportunity@gorge.net> wrote: To - SHERYL WILLIAMS > > Sheryl Williams wrote --- > > "His mother Mary Elizabeth (Williams) Williams Turner" > "My brother plans to test" > > Questions > Sheryl, are you a WILLIAMS by birth or by marriage? > Sheryl, is your brother a WILLIAMS or a TURNER by birth? > > DNA testing to check male lineage is called "yDNA". It will be the male line of his father that you will be testing. If you test a male's "mtDNA" (female DNA), you will be checking/testing his mother's female line (his mother's mother, etc.). Therefore, you will NOT be testing his mother's WILLIAMS line. > > Kay C. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: SHERYL WILLIAMS > To: williams@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:54 PM > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Allumbee (Allen B.) WILLIAMS & James WILLIAMS > > > Hi, > > Not certain if there are other any descendants who have tested on this line. My brother plans to test but this will only take us back to Malkijah Williams who is our grgrgrgrandfather. His mother Mary Elizabeth (Williams) Williams Turner is the daughter of Allumbee. > > However, family history states that she first married her cousin William Williams, which is perhaps from one of Allumbee (Allen B.) Williams' brother's sons? So perhaps, indirectly the DNA test will solve both of these lines if they are ultimately through the same ancestor > > Sheryl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:18:49 -0700 (PDT) > From: SHERYL WILLIAMS <sherwillia60@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] To Sheryl WILLIAMS > To: williams@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <406581.37381.qm@web82004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Sorry Kay, I missed this part of your message. > > [DNA testing to check male lineage is called "yDNA". It will be the male > line of his father that you will be testing. If you test a male's > "mtDNA" (female DNA), you will be checking/testing his mother's female line > (his mother's mother, etc.). Therefore, you will NOT be testing his > mother's WILLIAMS line.] > > Can you explain how it works when Williams cousins marry/have children? My thinking is if they were first cousins, they would still share the same Williams ancestor, therefore be in the same line?. > MARY ELIZABETH WILLIAMS b:abt1787, m1:WILLIAM WILLIAMS (a cousin) > > > My direct WILLIAMS line is: > Alembe Williams (Allen B. ?)-b:1757 MD > - > MARY ELIZABETH WILLIAMS b:abt1787, m1:WILLIAM WILLIAMS, m2:Winslow Turner > - > Malkijah Williams b:1803 TN, d:aft1850, m:Cynthia Burns > Thomas R. Williams b:1836 TX, d:1919, m:Mary Ann Beckham > Thomas H. Williams b:1874 TX, d:1949 TX, m:Carrie Cavender > Jack Williams b:1910 TX, d:1992 CA, m:Lora Belle Marquess > Living Son Williams > > > SHERYL WILLIAMS <sherwillia60@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > We are both WILLIAMS by birth. > > N & K Chestnut wrote: To - SHERYL WILLIAMS > > Sheryl Williams wrote --- > > "His mother Mary Elizabeth (Williams) Williams Turner" > "My brother plans to test" > > Questions > Sheryl, are you a WILLIAMS by birth or by marriage? > Sheryl, is your brother a WILLIAMS or a TURNER by birth? > > DNA testing to check male lineage is called "yDNA". It will be the male line of his father that you will be testing. If you test a male's "mtDNA" (female DNA), you will be checking/testing his mother's female line (his mother's mother, etc.). Therefore, you will NOT be testing his mother's WILLIAMS line. > > Kay C. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: SHERYL WILLIAMS > To: williams@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:54 PM > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Allumbee (Allen B.) WILLIAMS & James WILLIAMS > > > Hi, > > Not certain if there are other any descendants who have tested on this line. My brother plans to test but this will only take us back to Malkijah Williams who is our grgrgrgrandfather. His mother Mary Elizabeth (Williams) Williams Turner is the daughter of Allumbee. > > However, family history states that she first married her cousin William Williams, which is perhaps from one of Allumbee (Allen B.) Williams' brother's sons? So perhaps, indirectly the DNA test will solve both of these lines if they are ultimately through the same ancestor > > Sheryl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the WILLIAMS list administrator, send an email to > WILLIAMS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the WILLIAMS mailing list, send an email to WILLIAMS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of WILLIAMS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 55 > *************************************** >