Telford Williams in Southmont High School, Johnstown, PA 1939-40 Basketball Team Photo http://www.familyoldphotos.com/pa6/2s/southmont_high_school_1940bb.htm Margaret Williams in Central High School, Houston, Texas 1925 Girls Basketball Team Photo http://www.familyoldphotos.com/tx/2c/central_high_school_houston_1925girlsbb.htm ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/

>From early NC & SC Marriages: Joseph Williams - Betsy Spruill - 1780 - Tyrrell Co. NC Joseph Williams - Elizabeth Turner - 1-10-1749 - Berkely Co., SC Susanna Williams - William Montieth - 11-13-1804 - Mecklenburg Co., NC Thomas Williams - Sarah Ward - 7-25-1775 - Tyrrell Co, NC Thomas Williams - Elizabeth Pollock - 6-18-1785 - Chowan Co., NC Tulle Williams - Mary Potter - 10-8-1753 - Chowan Co., NC Dorothy C. White dotwhite@comcast.net

Our Absalom Williams is b. 1740-1745 poss. Dobbs and then to Robeson County, NC H e married Sarah Bright. TIA Always do right. This will gratify some people & astonish the rest. -Mark Twain- </HTML>

Our Absolum is in group 13 check with Oscar Williams ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I am also trying to find the father of my Absolom Williams. My line is listed in group twenty under Patsy Uptain. Daniel Williams tested for me. Would you please check my information to see if we are talking to find information on the same Absolom. Feel free to write to me at my email address. Thanks, Patsy ----- Original Message ----- From: <F2bemee@wmconnect.com> To: <WILLIAMS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 8:51 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS] Absolom Williams of Dobbs NC > > Does anyone know who Absolom Williams was the son of? > TIA > > > > > Always do right. > This will gratify some people & astonish the rest. -Mark Twain- </HTML> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Dawn is right; everyone should get tested! I have been tested, and appear in Group 58 of the Williams DNA Project. I am Kit #16630. _http://williams.genealogy.fm/results_page.php#matched_ (http://williams.genealogy.fm/results_page.php#matched) If you're going to get tested, go for the 37-marker test or more, since many of us are all about the same "R1B1 Specimens from Western Europe" with the 13-marker test. The 13 market test just isn't exact enough! I hope to see a lot more tests on the Williams DNA Project, including many more from RootWeb, Ancestry.com, LDS Researchers, etc. Robert Frank Williams ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Does anyone know who Absolom Williams was the son of? TIA Always do right. This will gratify some people & astonish the rest. -Mark Twain- </HTML>

Thanks for the suggestion of doing a DNA test. Actually I am this week getting ready to order a 37 marker test to have waiting here for my nephew, Chris Williams, when he visits here in June. He has agree to do it. His dad, my only brother, died in Norway last year, and Chris and his mom are visiting the states--so the time is right! I'll be anxious to have that info "on the books" and compared, now and through the years, with others male Williams whose DNA have been tested. Wish the rest of you would get a test made! Dawn Williams Gore

Search for David Williams born 1849 in Al. Married Mary Jane Koonce in Ms. I have found some of David and Mary children would love to find more on the family David and Mary Jane were married in Winston County, Miss. DEHucksAgmail.com

Dawn - Do you know of any male WILLIAMS descendants living now? You could have one or two (or several) of them tested for DNA. There are already about 400 male WILLIAMSes who have been DNA tested and have their results. You might find a distant cousin among these and gain some additional support (evidence) of your connection Wright WILLIAMS or his father Daniel WILLIAMS. DNA testing is not especially cheap, but seaching for courthouse records is not cheap either. Kay born a WILLIAMS with a brother whom I have had tested. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dawn Gore To: williams@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:20 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS] Leroy Williams, born 1804 TN, and Wright Williams, born 1810 TN, PROBABLE sons of Wright) Wms, Lincoln Co, TN, who was Daniel Wms' son Tia, thanks for inquiring about my Williams' line. I joined this list months ago and have read the archives but hadn't written yet to the group about my line. My descent is through both Leroy and Wright Williams (see subject line), born in the early 1800s in TN. Leroy's great granddaughter and Wright's grandson married here in Texas, and one of their children was my father, hence my descent from each TN brother. A cousin of mine, recently deceased, and I began serious research. Through the last 10 years of using census, newspapers, court records, tombstones, and some land records, etc. we have traced both brothers back to Lincoln County, TN ties. I am fairly well convinced that their father is Wright Williams (son of Daniel Williams who helped in the settlement of Nashville) and his wife Anna (Davis). Our weak link to connecting Leroy and Wright to Wright Williams, of Lincoln Co. TN, is that Anna's will of 1853 does not name Leroy and Wright as children (which is not unusual, since they had left TN more than 30 years earlier and probably at that time had received their parts of their inheritances), and I have been unable to find other court records connecting the two men to the family (or to any other family there), either because records weren't kept, or because they have been lost (or are still hiding somewhere!). BUT I have considerable circumstantial evidence that continues to point to my feeling of their kinship to Wright and Anna. I would like to correspond with others who have Daniel Williams' son, Wright, as their ancestor, and with descendants of Daniel's other children. One person with whom I corresponded several years ago sent me info she had on some of Daniel's other children. It helped to see those people and their routes of migration. I found that one of the descendants was in the same area of SW TX with my family, helping Leroy Williams' children in an Indian fight, one that took the life one of Leroy's four sons, Daniel. Dawn Williams Gore, Plano, TX

Tia, thanks for inquiring about my Williams' line. I joined this list months ago and have read the archives but hadn't written yet to the group about my line. My descent is through both Leroy and Wright Williams (see subject line), born in the early 1800s in TN. Leroy's great granddaughter and Wright's grandson married here in Texas, and one of their children was my father, hence my descent from each TN brother. A 2nd cousin to my dad, Paul, who lived on the land that Wright had come to in SW TX, pulled together everything he remembered his father and grandfather telling him through the years, had it typed, and then gave a few copies to his extended family. When I first began gathering documentation and working backwards, this little booklet was invaluable. But you know how family stories are! His remembrances on some things were quite accurate but others were questionable, so it became a treasure box of clues mostly. The positive part was that he had never traveled anywhere (certainly not to TN) and had done no checking of anything on his own, so he was not influenced by anything except what he remembered his own family telling him. A cousin of mine, recently deceased, and I began serious research. Through the last 10 years of using census, newspapers, court records, tombstones, and some land records, etc. we have traced both brothers back to Lincoln County, TN ties. I am fairly well convinced that their father is Wright Williams (son of Daniel Williams who helped in the settlement of Nashville) and his wife Anna (Davis). Our weak link to connecting Leroy and Wright to Wright Williams, of Lincoln Co. TN, is that Anna's will of 1853 does not name Leroy and Wright as children (which is not unusual, since they had left TN more than 30 years earlier and probably at that time had received their parts of their inheritances), and I have been unable to find other court records connecting the two men to the family (or to any other family there), either because records weren't kept, or because they have been lost (or are still hiding somewhere!). BUT I have considerable circumstantial evidence that continues to point to my feeling of their kinship to Wright and Anna. I would like to correspond with others who have Daniel Williams' son, Wright, as their ancestor, and with descendants of Daniel's other children. One person with whom I corresponded several years ago sent me info she had on some of Daniel's other children. It helped to see those people and their routes of migration. I found that one of the descendants was in the same area of SW TX with my family, helping Leroy Williams' children in an Indian fight, one that took the life one of Leroy's four sons, Daniel. Dawn Williams Gore, Plano, TX -----Original Message----- From: williams-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:williams-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of F2bemee@wmconnect.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:17 PM To: williams@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] surname misspelling Dawn, Where are your Williams located? TIA Always do right. This will gratify some people & astonish the rest. -Mark Twain- </HTML> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dawn, Where are your Williams located? TIA Always do right. This will gratify some people & astonish the rest. -Mark Twain- </HTML>

Brian sent this to me via another list. Perhaps it will aide some others researching the the WILLIAMS of Dobbs County, North Carolina. Hi - I came across a reference to Williams in Peggy Hartsfield Revolutionary War widow pension's application, number W4482 on National Archives Record Series M804, Reel 1210. A John Williams, born December 1786, gave an affidavit on February 24, 1844, that he had known John and Peggy as a married couple his entire life and that he had known them when he was growing up in the household of his father, Job Williams who lived about 2 miles from the Hartsfields. Perhaps these clues -- John's birth information and his father's name -- will be of some help to you. Regards, Brian Nilsson Always do right. This will gratify some people & astonish the rest. -Mark Twain- </HTML>

Thanks, Phyllis, for pulling together the spelling possibilities (or Im-possibilities!) for the spelling of "Williams", and to the others with your good suggestions. We have quite a challenge out! Dawn Williams Gore

I just have to reply to this. I found many misspellings for my ancestor, William E. Williams, on Ancestry.com, including: Willams Willam Wliams Williame (for William E) Wlliams Wilaims Wllams Wialms Wialaims Wailliams Welliams Illiams Wilyams Willms Some added the Mc, Mac, and the ' (along with all the variations in spelling) McWiliams McWilliam MacWilliams M'Williams then there are the abbreviations: Wms Wm Wlms and the mis-transcribed letters: Hillam Hilliams Hms Villiams Good luck ... I know what you're going through. Phyllis

Some of the stranger spellings I've seen are: Willyams, Wilyams, Wilyems (I guess someone was using the phonetic spelling) Guilemos, Gillemous (the Spanish name for William/Williams) As someone else also said, if you are using something like Ancestry.com, the best way may be to use the Wilcard search, which enables you to use only the first 3 letters of a surnames along with an asterisk * or a question mark ? and see what comes up. Deloris ----- Original Message ----- From: <LWilson181@aol.com> To: <WILLIAMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 6:40 AM Subject: [WILLIAMS] Surname Misspelling >I have a strange question for those who have researched the WILLIAMS >surname. > What are some common misspellings or surnames you have seen substituted > for > Williams in > old records - particularly census? > > I have been looking for documentation on an ancestor for over ten years. I > have come to > believe that the surname is likely miswritten / misspelled in the census > record. > > Thank you in advance for your reply. > > Larry > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/787 - Release Date: 5/3/2007 > 2:11 PM > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/787 - Release Date: 5/3/2007 2:11 PM

I have also seen it abbreviated as Wms. M -----Original Message----- From: williams-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:williams-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mebateman@cox.net Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 10:09 To: williams@rootsweb.com; WILLIAMS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Surname Misspelling Who are you looking for? What is the name, date and location? I usually use soundex if I think the name may be misspelled. It could have been misspelled as William or Wiliam or Willian. I also will search under Wil* which should also bring up any misspellings. Mary in CA *************** ---- LWilson181@aol.com wrote: > I have a strange question for those who have researched the WILLIAMS surname. > What are some common misspellings or surnames you have seen substituted for > Williams in > old records - particularly census? > > I have been looking for documentation on an ancestor for over ten years. I > have come to > believe that the surname is likely miswritten / misspelled in the census > record. > > Thank you in advance for your reply. > > Larry > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I finally found one family that I had been searching for listed as "William". -----Original Message----- From: williams-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:williams-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of LWilson181@aol.com Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 3:41 AM To: WILLIAMS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WILLIAMS] Surname Misspelling I have a strange question for those who have researched the WILLIAMS surname. What are some common misspellings or surnames you have seen substituted for Williams in old records - particularly census? I have been looking for documentation on an ancestor for over ten years. I have come to believe that the surname is likely miswritten / misspelled in the census record. Thank you in advance for your reply. Larry ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Who are you looking for? What is the name, date and location? I usually use soundex if I think the name may be misspelled. It could have been misspelled as William or Wiliam or Willian. I also will search under Wil* which should also bring up any misspellings. Mary in CA *************** ---- LWilson181@aol.com wrote: > I have a strange question for those who have researched the WILLIAMS surname. > What are some common misspellings or surnames you have seen substituted for > Williams in > old records - particularly census? > > I have been looking for documentation on an ancestor for over ten years. I > have come to > believe that the surname is likely miswritten / misspelled in the census > record. > > Thank you in advance for your reply. > > Larry > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a strange question for those who have researched the WILLIAMS surname. What are some common misspellings or surnames you have seen substituted for Williams in old records - particularly census? I have been looking for documentation on an ancestor for over ten years. I have come to believe that the surname is likely miswritten / misspelled in the census record. Thank you in advance for your reply. Larry ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.