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    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'?
    2. Dorothy White
    3. No, Carol. As far as I know there are no male Williams descendants available. Perhaps there are some but I have no idea who they might be nor where they are. My father's mother was from the Joseph Williams lineage. I have her siblings but I have no idea where they are nor if any are still living. She died a few years before I was born and daddy did not keep up with them. Dorothy C. White dotwhite@comcast.net

    06/18/2007 04:59:32
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'?
    2. Carol Williams
    3. They haven't yet, I am going to ask my father-in-law to be tested since he is the oldest male and only male that generation that we know of in the family line. I talked to him on Sunday and forgot to ask him. I have been in touch with the Williams DNA site, just got to get the test done. Thanks Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Huff" <c-huff1@sbcglobal.net> To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? > Carol: Have any of your Duplin Co., NC Williams male descendants been dna > tested? > If so, can you tell me their names and info. > I am trying to eliminate Duplin Co., NC Williams'. > Thank you. > Carol Williams Huff > > Carol Williams <calywi@hughes.net> wrote: > Dorothy, > > I seen your post of earlier on Joseph Williams family, I am wondering, did > any of the family go back to Duplin Co.? > > I am trying to find my husbands ggg-grandfather. I have some unverified > information that he may have been Lemuel Williams b.1806, Onslow Co. m > Norma > Ann Cox. His son Dr. Daniel Allen Williams b. 18 Nov 1839, Duplin Co. I > show Lemuel's father as John Williams m. Sarah or Sallie Sanders. > > If you have no info on this family, if anyone on the list has any info > please notify me, I don't mind sharing what I have. > > Thanks for any help, > Carol Williams > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dorothy White" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:53 AM > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS > 'tribe'? > > >>I hope your medical procedure goes well and you will be back to normal >> pronto. >> >> Do you have an side name of Claunch/Clonch/Clontz/Cloncs among your >> Williams >> ancestors in Mercer, KY? I am descended from HIeronymus >> Glantz/Claunch/Clontz. Some of his descendants living/lived in Mercer >> County, KY? >> >> I am descended from Joseph Williams first found in Duplin Co. (that part >> that became Sampson Co) NC in the 1760's and moved to Anson County, NC >> around 1800. Some of his children and grandchildren have been found in TN >> and AR. But most stayed in Anson Co., NC with a number of his descendants >> still living in Monroe, NC and Union Co. that part that was once Anson >> Co. >> before 1842. >> >> If you have any Claunch, etc. information I would really appreciate >> comparing research. >> >> Dorothy C. White >> dotwhite@comcast.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/18/2007 04:17:07
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] WILLIAMS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 119 Carol Check tribe.
    2. samuels
    3. Please check your list for William WILLIAMS married to Ann TITUS.Bud. -----Original Message----- From: williams-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:williams-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of williams-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 1:58 PM To: williams@rootsweb.com Subject: WILLIAMS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 119 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Being polite (Pjpeters2@aol.com) 2. Re: Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? (N & K Chestnut) 3. Caleb Williams of Cumberland Co., KY (JC MCLAUGHLIN) 4. Re: Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? (Dorothy White) 5. Re: Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? (Carol Williams) 6. Genealogy Terms / Web Links (SHERYL WILLIAMS) 7. Re: Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? (Dorothy White) 8. Re: Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? (Carol Williams) 9. FW: Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? (Dorothy White) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:42:27 EDT From: Pjpeters2@aol.com Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite To: WILLIAMS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <c2d.12d268d7.33a7f3d3@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Well I am certainly glad to see that we can still ask a question about a acronym (or something else) and someone will answer!! I have a big problem now with my memory & forget things so much easier & yet was getting afraid to ask anything!!! Those who don't want to be helpful can just ignore those questions, but it's wonderful that others still "have time" to answer......thank you.... Peggy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:35:43 -0700 From: "N & K Chestnut" <nkopportunity@gorge.net> Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001a01c7b1c6$b7ad5720$0201a8c0@nednulb6bx16vi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Good for you, Peggy. Do you have a WILLIAMS question you haven't asked recently? May be I will be able to pay closer attention this time. I, myself, have names and some dates on such a large WILLIAMS 'tribe', that 'no way' can I remember all the names and spouses' names, also. [I used the term 'tribe' even though, there is no hint of Native American.] I've never figured out a good, fast way to check my 'database' for them either. Just this morning I ran a screen preview of the descendants of Jonas WILLIAMS and Elizabeth THOMPSON married 1798 Mercer Co., KY., and it was 24 pages long. Of course, some (maybe half) were daughters; so they would no longer go by WILLIAMS surname. May I check for yours, especially if you have a WILLIAMS and a non-WILLIAMS surname couple? Oh yes, I do have a few WILLIAMS and WILLIAMS couples, but they don't seem to have many surviving children. P.S. I am having a 'medical procedure' today, so please don't expect an immediate response. Thank you. Kay (Williams) C. ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite Well I am certainly glad to see that we can still ask a question about a acronym (or something else) and someone will answer!! I have a big problem now with my memory & forget things so much easier & yet was getting afraid to ask anything!!! Those who don't want to be helpful can just ignore those questions, but it's wonderful that others still "have time" to answer......thank you.... Peggy ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:49:37 -0600 From: "JC MCLAUGHLIN" <jcnan2@msn.com> Subject: [WILLIAMS] Caleb Williams of Cumberland Co., KY To: <WILLIAMS-L@ROOTSWEB.COM> Message-ID: <BAY132-DAV8ABEA0BFF42BCDD9A16629F130@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am trying to make contact with anyone in the family of Caleb Williams, b. 1796 in VA; d. 1889 in Cumberland Co., KY.; m. Mary Lucy Jones abt. 1816 in VA. They had 10 children 9 of which were born in Cumberland Co., KY. Caleb's father was James (William) Williams. I do not know where he was born but he married a lady named Sarah ? in VA. They had 7 known children all born in VA. I come down through Caleb's son James Frank Williams to his son Hiram Williams to his daughter Bessie Everie Williams Anglin to her daughter Lillian Belle Anglin Webb to myself Nancy Ann Webb McLaughlin. I know quite a lot work has been done on Caleb. I have a couple of books written by Kenneth Williams of KY. I will be greatful for any information available and will share what I have. Nancy Ann Webb McLaughlin ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:53:59 -0400 From: "Dorothy White" <dotwhite@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001001c7b1c9$44ea3110$9500a8c0@bitsy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I hope your medical procedure goes well and you will be back to normal pronto. Do you have an side name of Claunch/Clonch/Clontz/Cloncs among your Williams ancestors in Mercer, KY? I am descended from HIeronymus Glantz/Claunch/Clontz. Some of his descendants living/lived in Mercer County, KY? I am descended from Joseph Williams first found in Duplin Co. (that part that became Sampson Co) NC in the 1760's and moved to Anson County, NC around 1800. Some of his children and grandchildren have been found in TN and AR. But most stayed in Anson Co., NC with a number of his descendants still living in Monroe, NC and Union Co. that part that was once Anson Co. before 1842. If you have any Claunch, etc. information I would really appreciate comparing research. Dorothy C. White dotwhite@comcast.net ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:30:48 -0500 From: "Carol Williams" <calywi@hughes.net> Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <01e701c7b1ce$6dcf4cf0$0200a8c0@2S4KN5K0H3> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Dorothy, I seen your post of earlier on Joseph Williams family, I am wondering, did any of the family go back to Duplin Co.? I am trying to find my husbands ggg-grandfather. I have some unverified information that he may have been Lemuel Williams b.1806, Onslow Co. m Norma Ann Cox. His son Dr. Daniel Allen Williams b. 18 Nov 1839, Duplin Co. I show Lemuel's father as John Williams m. Sarah or Sallie Sanders. If you have no info on this family, if anyone on the list has any info please notify me, I don't mind sharing what I have. Thanks for any help, Carol Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy White" <dotwhite@comcast.net> To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? >I hope your medical procedure goes well and you will be back to normal > pronto. > > Do you have an side name of Claunch/Clonch/Clontz/Cloncs among your > Williams > ancestors in Mercer, KY? I am descended from HIeronymus > Glantz/Claunch/Clontz. Some of his descendants living/lived in Mercer > County, KY? > > I am descended from Joseph Williams first found in Duplin Co. (that part > that became Sampson Co) NC in the 1760's and moved to Anson County, NC > around 1800. Some of his children and grandchildren have been found in TN > and AR. But most stayed in Anson Co., NC with a number of his descendants > still living in Monroe, NC and Union Co. that part that was once Anson Co. > before 1842. > > If you have any Claunch, etc. information I would really appreciate > comparing research. > > Dorothy C. White > dotwhite@comcast.net > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:38:08 -0700 (PDT) From: SHERYL WILLIAMS <sherwillia60@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [WILLIAMS] Genealogy Terms / Web Links To: williams@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <358832.6536.qm@web82007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I hope others will find these links helpful. CYNDI'S LIST Dictionaries & Glossaries http://www.cyndislist.com/diction.htm - - GENEALOGY QUEST Glossary of Terms http://www.genealogy-quest.com/glossaries/index.html Abbreviations Diseases Epidemics Latin Occupations Terminology ROOTSWEB GENEALOGY TERMS http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sam/terms.html - - GENEALOGY PRO Glossary of Genealogy Terms http://genealogypro.com/details/glossary.html - - GENEALOGY.COM Genealogy Learning Center http://www.genealogy.com/genehelp.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:11:14 -0400 From: "Dorothy White" <dotwhite@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002701c7b1d4$1264af80$9500a8c0@bitsy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Carol, my Joseph Williams did have a son Lemuel b 1787 in Sampson Co but he moved to Anson Co. and died in Anson Co at close to 100 years old. We do not know exactly who Joseph's father/parents were but some descendants declared they were Joseph Williams and Martha Mewborn. Not knowing Joseph's original family we don't know if he had siblings nor who they might have been but here is the name Lemuel and we had no idea where that name came from. So there might have been a connection. Our Joseph Williams was b ca 1748 but I don't know where. He became a Primitive Baptist elder (preacher) helping to establish a number of churches in Anson and surrounding counties. He died there July 6, 1825 and Martha Perritt, his wife died July 8, 1825 less than 48 hours after Joseph. Their obit notice states Joseph was 77 years old and Martha about 2 years younger. I know they were married very young. I have a copy of his Rev. War record - the sheet stating the unit he served in and a muster sheet but it is marked on there that no other information is available. I have seen where he enlisted in Halifax Co. but I haven't found anything to prove that. There were so many Joseph Williams men in that northeastern area of NC, almost as many as those named William Williams. It is difficult to correctly place him in any one Williams lineage. I know our Joseph was not of the Samuel Williams/Elizabeth Alston lineage. They had 3 sons, Samuel, John Joseph and Williams and they were in Bertie Co., NC. Their son was always referred to as John Joseph, I suppose to distinguish him from all the other Joseph Williams men. My Joseph had 3 sons who married Herring girls, daughters of Joseph Herring and Unicy Uzzell in Sampson Co. Henry married Nancy Herring, Hezekiah married Eunice Herring and Parrott/Perritt married Rhoda Herring (I have seen her as Bridget Rhoda but that is questionable.) His daughter, Edith (Eady) married George House in Sampson Co and they stayed there when the others moved to Anson Co. As far as I have been able to determine our Joseph Williams was not a descendant of the VA Williams. It is possible he descended from Lodwick Williams, his son, Edward Williams and our Joseph's father could have been the son of that Edward Williams but this has not been altogether proven. Dorothy White ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:40:02 -0500 From: "Carol Williams" <calywi@hughes.net> Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <021901c7b1d8$19331960$0200a8c0@2S4KN5K0H3> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Well Dorothy as I was reading what you sent I had to kinda giggle to myself, you see my husband is a Joseph. I just thought that maybe in your research you had came across another Lemuel in the Duplin Co. area. Hopefully someone else on the list may have an idea about this family. But I am not holding my breath, you Williams are everywhere! Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy White" <dotwhite@comcast.net> To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? > Carol, my Joseph Williams did have a son Lemuel b 1787 in Sampson Co but > he > moved to Anson Co. and died in Anson Co at close to 100 years old. We do > not know exactly who Joseph's father/parents were but some descendants > declared they were Joseph Williams and Martha Mewborn. Not knowing > Joseph's > original family we don't know if he had siblings nor who they might have > been but here is the name Lemuel and we had no idea where that name came > from. So there might have been a connection. Our Joseph Williams was b > ca > 1748 but I don't know where. He became a Primitive Baptist elder > (preacher) > helping to establish a number of churches in Anson and surrounding > counties. > He died there July 6, 1825 and Martha Perritt, his wife died July 8, 1825 > less than 48 hours after Joseph. Their obit notice states Joseph was 77 > years old and Martha about 2 years younger. I know they were married very > young. I have a copy of his Rev. War record - the sheet stating the unit > he > served in and a muster sheet but it is marked on there that no other > information is available. I have seen where he enlisted in Halifax Co. > but > I haven't found anything to prove that. > > There were so many Joseph Williams men in that northeastern area of NC, > almost as many as those named William Williams. It is difficult to > correctly place him in any one Williams lineage. I know our Joseph was not > of the Samuel Williams/Elizabeth Alston lineage. They had 3 sons, Samuel, > John Joseph and Williams and they were in Bertie Co., NC. Their son was > always referred to as John Joseph, I suppose to distinguish him from all > the > other Joseph Williams men. > > My Joseph had 3 sons who married Herring girls, daughters of Joseph > Herring > and Unicy Uzzell in Sampson Co. Henry married Nancy Herring, Hezekiah > married Eunice Herring and Parrott/Perritt married Rhoda Herring (I have > seen her as Bridget Rhoda but that is questionable.) His daughter, Edith > (Eady) married George House in Sampson Co and they stayed there when the > others moved to Anson Co. As far as I have been able to determine our > Joseph Williams was not a descendant of the VA Williams. It is possible > he > descended from Lodwick Williams, his son, Edward Williams and our Joseph's > father could have been the son of that Edward Williams but this has not > been > altogether proven. > > Dorothy White > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:56:38 -0400 From: "Dorothy White" <dotwhite@comcast.net> Subject: [WILLIAMS] FW: Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <005301c7b1da$6a4da9d0$9500a8c0@bitsy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am aware of that, Carol. I have only been searching for my Joseph's parents and ancestry for nearly 20 years without success. However, I am convinced that the information you need is out there somewhere and just matter of time and lucking up on records to prove it. I wish you success, too in your quest. Dorothy C. White dotwhite@comcast.net 804.795.4296 -----Original Message----- From: williams-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:williams-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carol Williams Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 2:40 PM To: williams@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? Well Dorothy as I was reading what you sent I had to kinda giggle to myself, you see my husband is a Joseph. I just thought that maybe in your research you had came across another Lemuel in the Duplin Co. area. Hopefully someone else on the list may have an idea about this family. But I am not holding my breath, you Williams are everywhere! Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy White" <dotwhite@comcast.net> To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? > Carol, my Joseph Williams did have a son Lemuel b 1787 in Sampson Co > but > he > moved to Anson Co. and died in Anson Co at close to 100 years old. We do > not know exactly who Joseph's father/parents were but some descendants > declared they were Joseph Williams and Martha Mewborn. Not knowing > Joseph's > original family we don't know if he had siblings nor who they might have > been but here is the name Lemuel and we had no idea where that name came > from. So there might have been a connection. Our Joseph Williams was b > ca > 1748 but I don't know where. He became a Primitive Baptist elder > (preacher) > helping to establish a number of churches in Anson and surrounding > counties. > He died there July 6, 1825 and Martha Perritt, his wife died July 8, 1825 > less than 48 hours after Joseph. Their obit notice states Joseph was 77 > years old and Martha about 2 years younger. I know they were married very > young. I have a copy of his Rev. War record - the sheet stating the unit > he > served in and a muster sheet but it is marked on there that no other > information is available. I have seen where he enlisted in Halifax Co. > but > I haven't found anything to prove that. > > There were so many Joseph Williams men in that northeastern area of > NC, almost as many as those named William Williams. It is difficult > to correctly place him in any one Williams lineage. I know our Joseph > was not of the Samuel Williams/Elizabeth Alston lineage. They had 3 > sons, Samuel, John Joseph and Williams and they were in Bertie Co., > NC. Their son was always referred to as John Joseph, I suppose to > distinguish him from all the other Joseph Williams men. > > My Joseph had 3 sons who married Herring girls, daughters of Joseph > Herring > and Unicy Uzzell in Sampson Co. Henry married Nancy Herring, Hezekiah > married Eunice Herring and Parrott/Perritt married Rhoda Herring (I have > seen her as Bridget Rhoda but that is questionable.) His daughter, Edith > (Eady) married George House in Sampson Co and they stayed there when the > others moved to Anson Co. As far as I have been able to determine our > Joseph Williams was not a descendant of the VA Williams. It is possible > he > descended from Lodwick Williams, his son, Edward Williams and our Joseph's > father could have been the son of that Edward Williams but this has not > been > altogether proven. > > Dorothy White > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the WILLIAMS list administrator, send an email to WILLIAMS-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the WILLIAMS mailing list, send an email to WILLIAMS@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of WILLIAMS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 119 ****************************************

    06/18/2007 02:12:10
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] WILLIAMS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 115
    2. Janni Sales
    3. Ok, I'll bite. What does EXUM stand for? I can't find it. Thanks. Janni gloriamlh@juno.com wrote: Rootsweb has lists of gen terms used, and I for one dont have enough time to go through this over and over again. Any newbie needs to make it his or her responsibility to google the terminolgy listings.When I was learning medical terminology it was I who had to study it, not have it explained to me...jus a thought.you could say the same for migration patterns , also inc here below, and if someone does not understand these, then they also need a beginners gen course, or write me direct for an explanation if/when I have time. And dont think i dont feel, I had a devil of a time researching Barbara EXUM for the longest time til someone recommended a beginners course...(and did i feel stupid!!!) I am the member of over fifty lists so i need to use acronyms and abreviations and only some punctuation, since i am a slow typist. If "Samuels" has the time to list a few pertaining to this list it would be great, but as I said there are lists already out there that are easily found. thank you. BTW&FYI... Nancy is no longer MNU she was maiden name BRENT (Thank you List) gloria On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:22:54 -0500 "samuels" writes: > Listers; just a problem I see coming down the pike. Items included > with a > name like MNU need delineation[]or some sort of identification. We > oldtimers > know that acronyms are used but new comers will take these as > names, > especially when in caps. Remember the trace of the exor family or > etal > family? Many misreads {I am at fault of this} are lack of > punctuation. Bud. > > -----Original Message----- > From: williams-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:williams-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of williams-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 2:05 AM > To: williams@rootsweb.com > Subject: WILLIAMS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 115 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Williams Connection/Arkansas (gloriamlh@juno.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:09:00 -0700 > From: gloriamlh@juno.com > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams Connection/Arkansas > To: williams@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <20070615.130902.-15772435.0.gloriamlh@juno.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Any info on Russell Williams would be greatly appreciated because I > haven't been able to find much in TX ... especially any info on > family > line would be most welcome. As you must know Williams is a hard > name > because there are so many healthy long lived ones... and I have a > double > whammy because I have another Williams line on my maternal side (my > ggrandmother was a Williams --from Conrad Williams of TN>IA>MO>OR) > Thank > you so much for your reply. > On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:55:22 -0500 "Carol Williams" > > writes: > > I have your Russell Williams in my half uncles file, he is a 1st > > Cousin 4 > > times removed from my uncle. If you want more info let me know. > > > > Carol > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 8:23 PM > > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams Connection/Arkansas > > > > > > > My Russell Williams was married to Amanda (possibly evans) and > > lived in > > > AR had ch russell jr, tennessee belle(my ancestress) and > others, > > Amanda > > > died and was buried in AR Russell remarried Nancy MNU and later > > > moved to > > > sulpher springs tx and I think more ch.I can look all this up if > > > anyone > > > thinks they have a connection. . > > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Arthur > > > > > writes: > > >> That would be the same family I'm Looking for information on. > > Arthur > > >> --- Estelle Hucks wrote: > > >> > > >> > Lhave Williams living in Polk county, Arkansas that kin to > the > > >> > Blakely > > >> > family from Blont County, Alabama . My blakley moved to > Texas. > > >> > > > >> > On 6/13/07, Arthur wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > Looking for Williams connections and anyone related to a > > >> Williams > > >> > who > > >> > > has relations to the Blakley family who lived in Pike & > > Clark > > >> > Coun > > >> > > ties in Arkansas early 1900's. Thanks, Arthur R. Pannell > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > ___________ > > >> > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from > > >> someone > > >> > who > > >> > > knows. Yahoo! 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    06/18/2007 01:53:08
    1. [WILLIAMS] May I check WILLIAMS 'tribe' to Donna.
    2. Donna
    3. Thank you sooo much for you time Kay, I very much appreciate any help with my brick wall. I'm so glad you are feeling better. Take care. Donna N & K Chestnut <nkopportunity@gorge.net> wrote: Hi Donna, I checked several different was for your Edward WILLIAMS b. ca. 1825; but I could turn up nothing even close. Samuel WILLIAMS had one 'hit'; but not very close. I have a Samuel Aaron WILLIAMS (son of Thompson WILLIAMS) born 1845 in Washington Co., IL. and married a Hariett Ann STREET in 1866. John H. WILLIAMS had several 'hits'; but none seemed close to me. John WILLIAMS b. abt 1801 Barren Co., KY. d. 1854 m. 1st abt. 1828 ??? and m. 2nd Nancy Elizabeth BIRD. John W. WILLIAMS b. abt 1846 (son of John) m. Rebecca Ann HAWKINS 1870. John WILLIAMS (son of Allen) b. abt. 1848 IL.; but I have no marriage for him. Indirectly (my grand-daughter's line) I have a New England 'tribe' of WILLIAMSes. Eunice WILLIAMS (1702-1772) dau. of John WILLIAMS (1667-1741) and Martha WHEELER (1669-1745) is the 'end' of that line. Kay (Williams) C. --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.

    06/18/2007 01:15:10
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] May I check WILLIAMS 'tribe' to Donna.
    2. N & K Chestnut
    3. Hi Donna, I checked several different was for your Edward WILLIAMS b. ca. 1825; but I could turn up nothing even close. Samuel WILLIAMS had one 'hit'; but not very close. I have a Samuel Aaron WILLIAMS (son of Thompson WILLIAMS) born 1845 in Washington Co., IL. and married a Hariett Ann STREET in 1866. John H. WILLIAMS had several 'hits'; but none seemed close to me. John WILLIAMS b. abt 1801 Barren Co., KY. d. 1854 m. 1st abt. 1828 ??? and m. 2nd Nancy Elizabeth BIRD. John W. WILLIAMS b. abt 1846 (son of John) m. Rebecca Ann HAWKINS 1870. John WILLIAMS (son of Allen) b. abt. 1848 IL.; but I have no marriage for him. Indirectly (my grand-daughter's line) I have a New England 'tribe' of WILLIAMSes. Eunice WILLIAMS (1702-1772) dau. of John WILLIAMS (1667-1741) and Martha WHEELER (1669-1745) is the 'end' of that line. Kay (Williams) C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna To: williams@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:32 AM Subject: [WILLIAMS] May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? Hi Kay, Sure hope everything will be okay after your medical procure. I was wondering if you might have a Edward Williams in your data base? The only thing I know about Edward is he had 3-sons (most likely more children) John H b abt 1823, Edward abt 1825 & Samuel abt 1834. My information came from census's and a Guion-Miller Application my grandmother filled out in 1908. I come down from John H b 1823, he died in Missouri. Thank you for any information on my Williams, Donna N & K Chestnut <nkopportunity@gorge.net> wrote: Good for you, Peggy. Do you have a WILLIAMS question you haven't asked recently? May be I will be able to pay closer attention this time. I, myself, have names and some dates on such a large WILLIAMS 'tribe', that 'no way' can I remember all the names and spouses' names, also. [I used the term 'tribe' even though, there is no hint of Native American.] I've never figured out a good, fast way to check my 'database' for them either. Just this morning I ran a screen preview of the descendants of Jonas WILLIAMS and Elizabeth THOMPSON married 1798 Mercer Co., KY., and it was 24 pages long. Of course, some (maybe half) were daughters; so they would no longer go by WILLIAMS surname. May I check for yours, especially if you have a WILLIAMS and a non-WILLIAMS surname couple? Oh yes, I do have a few WILLIAMS and WILLIAMS couples, but they don't seem to have many surviving children. P.S. I am having a 'medical procedure' today, so please don't expect an immediate response. Thank you. Kay (Williams) C. ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite Well I am certainly glad to see that we can still ask a question about a acronym (or something else) and someone will answer!! I have a big problem now with my memory & forget things so much easier & yet was getting afraid to ask anything!!! Those who don't want to be helpful can just ignore those questions, but it's wonderful that others still "have time" to answer......thank you.... Peggy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/18/2007 12:53:26
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'?
    2. Carolyn Bruce
    3. Hi, Kay, I'm seeking any and all proving information on John Alfred WILLIAMS, who married in Lee CoVA to Delilah CHEEK, sometime between 1858 and 1860. I estimate he was born abt. 1822, a census reports that he was born in Lee Co; he d. about. 1885 in Lee CoVA. Delilah died Aug 28, 1867 (Catron), leaving him with five or six children, among them newborn twin boys who subsequently died, one on Oct 13, the other two days later, probably because their mother had died. They probably starved. Alfred remarried to Susannah BALL on Dec 01, 1867, and according to the marriage record, he declared he was born in Harlan CoKY, and his parents are given as Hezekiah and Keziah WILLIAMS. Catron's Early Court Records of Lee County, Virginia, Vol. II, carries the following public notice: "On 1st day August county court 1886, I will proceed to sell at public outcry, the lands or so much thereof, as will settle the taxes, levies, interest at 5 per cent and costs of advertisements etc, to the above taxes described, unless the amount of taxes and costs be previously paid. This sale will be continued form (sic) day to day and if necessary from court to court until completed. M. B. Wygal, Treasurer." Included on said list was the entry: "Williams, Alferd (sic), 38 1/2 acres in Back Valley, taxes dilinquent, $.76." The man apparently didn't have a very happy existence. As you can see, I have several blank dates that I need filled, and anything at all about his parents would be helpful. Thanks for your generous offer of help, since I live about 400 miles from Lee CoVA, even though I'm in the same state. Carolyn HALE BRUCE Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots Rebel King, The Har'ships and Rebel King, Bannok Burn See all the books we publish at: www.bruceandbruceinc.com (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pjpeters2@aol.com> To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? > Hi Kay.... > > Really appreciate your offer to help with a Williams question I haven't > asked lately. > > My gg-grandfather was James W. Williams born 11 Jan 1780, where I am not > sure. He married on 1 Feb 1809 in Fleming Co., KY to Mary Planck, she > was born > 1782 in VA. I have no idea who his parents were or if he had any > siblings, > and I have no information on Mary Planck either. If anyone has any info > on > either of these I would certainly appreciate it. > > James & Mary had 5 sons who were all born in KY according to census taken > later in Daviess County, Indiana where they all moved by 1840 & 1850. > There may > have been some girls born, but I have no record of any. James died 7 Feb > 1847 Daviess Co., IN & Mary on 1 Apr 1857, both buried in Daviess Co., > IN. > > The five sons I have traced are: > Watson Williams born 8 Feb 1810 KY > Jacob Williams born 30 Oct 1815 KY > William Williams born abt 1821 KY (my g grandpa-another mystery) > Mordecai Williams born 30 May 1822 KY > James Williams Jr born abt 1826 KY > > Thank you...... > Peggy (Williams) P. > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/18/2007 12:14:40
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'?
    2. Carol Huff
    3. Carol: Have any of your Duplin Co., NC Williams male descendants been dna tested? If so, can you tell me their names and info. I am trying to eliminate Duplin Co., NC Williams'. Thank you. Carol Williams Huff Carol Williams <calywi@hughes.net> wrote: Dorothy, I seen your post of earlier on Joseph Williams family, I am wondering, did any of the family go back to Duplin Co.? I am trying to find my husbands ggg-grandfather. I have some unverified information that he may have been Lemuel Williams b.1806, Onslow Co. m Norma Ann Cox. His son Dr. Daniel Allen Williams b. 18 Nov 1839, Duplin Co. I show Lemuel's father as John Williams m. Sarah or Sallie Sanders. If you have no info on this family, if anyone on the list has any info please notify me, I don't mind sharing what I have. Thanks for any help, Carol Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy White" To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? >I hope your medical procedure goes well and you will be back to normal > pronto. > > Do you have an side name of Claunch/Clonch/Clontz/Cloncs among your > Williams > ancestors in Mercer, KY? I am descended from HIeronymus > Glantz/Claunch/Clontz. Some of his descendants living/lived in Mercer > County, KY? > > I am descended from Joseph Williams first found in Duplin Co. (that part > that became Sampson Co) NC in the 1760's and moved to Anson County, NC > around 1800. Some of his children and grandchildren have been found in TN > and AR. But most stayed in Anson Co., NC with a number of his descendants > still living in Monroe, NC and Union Co. that part that was once Anson Co. > before 1842. > > If you have any Claunch, etc. information I would really appreciate > comparing research. > > Dorothy C. White > dotwhite@comcast.net > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/18/2007 11:56:23
    1. [WILLIAMS] May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? - to Dorothy
    2. N & K Chestnut
    3. Hi Dorothy, My medical procedure went normally; but my digestive is not quite back to normal. Thank you for caring and asking. HIeronymus Glantz/Claunch/Clontz -- wow what an unusual name. From what nationality or language might it have come??? Have you been able to yDNA test a male descendant from that person? Sorry, I cannot find anything like that (CLAUNCH) in my computer database. But our yDNA was R1a, and not many of those are in the WILLIAMS DNA Project. Our close yDNA match now lives in TN. and his WILLIAMSes have been in TN. several generations. He thinks his ancestors came from N.C. And a closer 'cousin' of his lives in AR. Sincerely, Kay (Williams) C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dorothy White To: williams@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? I hope your medical procedure goes well and you will be back to normal pronto. Do you have an side name of Claunch/Clonch/Clontz/Cloncs among your Williams ancestors in Mercer, KY? I am descended from HIeronymus Glantz/Claunch/Clontz. Some of his descendants living/lived in Mercer County, KY? I am descended from Joseph Williams first found in Duplin Co. (that part that became Sampson Co) NC in the 1760's and moved to Anson County, NC around 1800. Some of his children and grandchildren have been found in TN and AR. But most stayed in Anson Co., NC with a number of his descendants still living in Monroe, NC and Union Co. that part that was once Anson Co. before 1842. If you have any Claunch, etc. information I would really appreciate comparing research. Dorothy C. White

    06/18/2007 11:49:10
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'?
    2. Hi Kay.... Really appreciate your offer to help with a Williams question I haven't asked lately. My gg-grandfather was James W. Williams born 11 Jan 1780, where I am not sure. He married on 1 Feb 1809 in Fleming Co., KY to Mary Planck, she was born 1782 in VA. I have no idea who his parents were or if he had any siblings, and I have no information on Mary Planck either. If anyone has any info on either of these I would certainly appreciate it. James & Mary had 5 sons who were all born in KY according to census taken later in Daviess County, Indiana where they all moved by 1840 & 1850. There may have been some girls born, but I have no record of any. James died 7 Feb 1847 Daviess Co., IN & Mary on 1 Apr 1857, both buried in Daviess Co., IN. The five sons I have traced are: Watson Williams born 8 Feb 1810 KY Jacob Williams born 30 Oct 1815 KY William Williams born abt 1821 KY (my g grandpa-another mystery) Mordecai Williams born 30 May 1822 KY James Williams Jr born abt 1826 KY Thank you...... Peggy (Williams) P. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    06/18/2007 11:44:10
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'?
    2. Russ Hurlburt
    3. Does anyone have any information on John Allsworth Williams. He was born March 8, 1791 in Conn. I have his parents as Thomas Williams and Elizabeth of Ireland. Supposedly his name was Joseph Allsworth and he changed his name to the Williams. I was wondering if anyone had any more info of him or his parents the Allsworth? Brenda rsglenave@dctnet.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy White" <dotwhite@comcast.net> To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? > Carol, my Joseph Williams did have a son Lemuel b 1787 in Sampson Co but > he > moved to Anson Co. and died in Anson Co at close to 100 years old. We do > not know exactly who Joseph's father/parents were but some descendants > declared they were Joseph Williams and Martha Mewborn. Not knowing > Joseph's > original family we don't know if he had siblings nor who they might have > been but here is the name Lemuel and we had no idea where that name came > from. So there might have been a connection. Our Joseph Williams was b > ca > 1748 but I don't know where. He became a Primitive Baptist elder > (preacher) > helping to establish a number of churches in Anson and surrounding > counties. > He died there July 6, 1825 and Martha Perritt, his wife died July 8, 1825 > less than 48 hours after Joseph. Their obit notice states Joseph was 77 > years old and Martha about 2 years younger. I know they were married very > young. I have a copy of his Rev. War record - the sheet stating the unit > he > served in and a muster sheet but it is marked on there that no other > information is available. I have seen where he enlisted in Halifax Co. > but > I haven't found anything to prove that. > > There were so many Joseph Williams men in that northeastern area of NC, > almost as many as those named William Williams. It is difficult to > correctly place him in any one Williams lineage. I know our Joseph was not > of the Samuel Williams/Elizabeth Alston lineage. They had 3 sons, Samuel, > John Joseph and Williams and they were in Bertie Co., NC. Their son was > always referred to as John Joseph, I suppose to distinguish him from all > the > other Joseph Williams men. > > My Joseph had 3 sons who married Herring girls, daughters of Joseph > Herring > and Unicy Uzzell in Sampson Co. Henry married Nancy Herring, Hezekiah > married Eunice Herring and Parrott/Perritt married Rhoda Herring (I have > seen her as Bridget Rhoda but that is questionable.) His daughter, Edith > (Eady) married George House in Sampson Co and they stayed there when the > others moved to Anson Co. As far as I have been able to determine our > Joseph Williams was not a descendant of the VA Williams. It is possible > he > descended from Lodwick Williams, his son, Edward Williams and our Joseph's > father could have been the son of that Edward Williams but this has not > been > altogether proven. > > Dorothy White > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/18/2007 11:31:27
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Genealogy Terms / Web Links
    2. Dawn Gore
    3. Thanks, Sheryl, for the list of terms plus web links, and the list of nicknames you sent. These should be of help to many on the list. Dawn Williams Gore the message

    06/18/2007 10:58:20
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Genealogy Terms / Web Links
    2. Thank you so much sheryl. I can cut and paste this to anyone who may need them. You are Great! I always have to google first! gloria On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:38:08 -0700 (PDT) SHERYL WILLIAMS <sherwillia60@sbcglobal.net> writes: > I hope others will find these links helpful. > > CYNDI'S LIST > Dictionaries & Glossaries > http://www.cyndislist.com/diction.htm > - > - > GENEALOGY QUEST > Glossary of Terms > http://www.genealogy-quest.com/glossaries/index.html > Abbreviations > Diseases > Epidemics > Latin > Occupations > Terminology > > ROOTSWEB > GENEALOGY TERMS > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sam/terms.html > - > - > GENEALOGY PRO > Glossary of Genealogy Terms > http://genealogypro.com/details/glossary.html > - > - > GENEALOGY.COM > Genealogy Learning Center > http://www.genealogy.com/genehelp.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    06/18/2007 09:57:50
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite/Eleanorand Frederick
    2. I had to read all the posts on my so called rudeness and it made me sad that tempers could get so out of hand over such a simple subject. Dan, I am in fact a list administrator and have used many hours researching my MCHAM files on families not my own for those who post . I am not retired, in fact I work two jobs plus care for my living descendents which is sometimes not as rewarding as my genealogy research, especially when I can help others, considering that my children are making choices that have been proven wrong so many times that it would seem they would learn if not from me, then from others, including their friends... but hey Im jus the mom... When I suggested that "Samuels" may have the time to make lists of acronyms commonly used I was not being facetious , more envious than anything. And Dan, at 79 yrs young rather than stating what I am not, even though you have no clue, maybe you have time to share acronyms commonly used. otherwise, as I tried to make plain, I will try to find time to answer any questions directed to me and if anyone on list also can send answers that will make it really nice, SHARING as it should be. Now to Joannie...I am always glad to see these discussions/comments included in a query so as not to waste space. Some Surnames will also be found all caps to help tell the list which lines are in question I will give a short example: not a real query_________________________ Ted WILLIAMS m HELEN mnu, MNU Williams in 1835 in Dix IA and she was the ch of Fred S/Unk and Carol HOPE. so someone has a letter or other doc which lists Helen's father as Fred and mother as Carol Hope. Query: is Hope a surname or middle name? Fred's SURNAME IS UNKNOWN, as is his dau's Maiden name. trans" Ted Williams married Helen middle name unknown, Maiden Name Unknown in 1835 in Dix IA. She was the dau of fred last name unknown and carol Hope, unknown if HOPE is middle or last name. solution: find a mrg cert for Ted Williams and Helen in Dix IA it will probably have her middle and maiden name and if she was a minor it may have parents or other relatives as posting a marriage bond. _________________________________________ now to examine your post to see if I can direct you anywhere. This is not my line but I do know that NovaScotia just opened up a huge database that may be helpful to you. I just google nova scotia genealogy and find it that way. I use ggrpa/ma 2xggrpa/ma 3x etc... remember that you your mom and your gramma are 3 gen but your ggramma is 1x and so forth on back . Also there are many rev war loyalist lists online try them to see if you can find a match.Westchester NY also has quite a few old prerev war and contemporary records , but be sure to check and see if county size or boundries changed by checking the genweb for that county and reading the history. I hope some of this helps. good luck gloria On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:40:41 -0400 "Joanie G" <naturalistandherbalist@gmail.com> writes: > Hello, I am a newbie here and I usually take any word with all caps > to be an > acronym. > Most, I can figure out from context - MNU would be one of those. > A sentence *full* of acronyms would be problematic for me, but I > have not > seen that here so far. > And if I do see one, I can always ask what it means. > I did not take anyone's words in this little debate to be "blasting" > or > critical, really, either... > everyone is just expressing their opinions and I have not disagreed > with the > substance of anyone's really... > > These are just the opinions of one who has been reading for just a > few days > though..dunno if there is more I missed. > > Anyway... the Williamses I just discovered a relationship to are > Eleanor > Williams (b.1771 in Westchester County, NY) who married John Acorn > on Prince > Edward Island in September 1788, and her dad, Captain Frederick > Williams, > who was a Loyalist and a British officer who moved to Nova Scotia > (Digby, I > think) after the Revolutionary war (and his time as a "Cowboy", from > what I > have gathered) > > I have read references to Eleanor's family going back to the 1500's > in New > York..but have not come across much information on that yet...and so > that is > the reason I am here. Most of what I know at this point is from > Acorn > researchers on line. Eleanor would be my ummm.. great grandmother > Harriet > Acorn's great grandmother...so, what would that be to me? Gggg > grandmother? > And Frederick be my Ggggg grandfather, I think. Now would this be > also > expressed as 4th great and 5th great grandparents? (this is the sort > of > thing I get confused with, translating terms like "4th great" to the > actual > numbers of "greats" to recite in a relationship..but it is not an > important > question..just something that I am confused about) > > Anyway, that is the line of Williams I am looking for more > information > on...normally I would just wait till it "came up", but decided to > give my > opinion about politeness instead, and then explain why I am here. > > Joanie MacPhee > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    06/18/2007 09:46:56
    1. [WILLIAMS] Job Williams 1783-1853 NC>TN>MO>TX
    2. SHERYL WILLIAMS
    3. Can anyone find connections with this line? Job WILLIAMS married Nancy CAMPBELL 10 OCT 1804 in Sumner County, Tennessee. Surnames: NORTEN; PETTIGREW; BEATY; MILLICAN; EVETTS; WARD; KILLINGSWORTH; LOONEY; MANKEE; NOLEN; GORSEE. ````````````````````````````````````````` 1. Job WILLIAMS (Alambee WILLIAMS) was born ABT 1783 in North Carolina, and died 14 APR 1853 in Texas. He was buried in Edna Cemetery, Jackson County, Texas. He married Nancy CAMPBELL 10 OCT 1804 in Sumner County, Tennessee. She was born ABT 1783 in Scotland or North Carolina, and died 14 APR 1851 in Texas. She was buried in Edna Cemetery, Jackson County, Texas. Children of Job WILLIAMS and Nancy CAMPBELL are: - i. Louisa WILLIAMS was born 24 JUN 1806 in Lincoln County, Missouri, and died AFT 1836 in Louisiana. She married Charles NORTEN, son of Asa NORTON and Anna HAWLEY, 1836 in Lake Charles, Louisiana. - ii. Emily WILLIAMS was born 10 MAR 1808 in Lincoln County, Missouri, and died UNKNOWN. She married Dr. Unk. PETTIGREW. - iii. Sarah Jane WILLIAMS was born 23 DEC 1810 in Lincoln County, Missouri, and died 27 JAN 1830. She married Edward BEATY, Sr. BEF SEP 1828 in Jackson County, Texas. He was born ABT 1803. - iv. Asentha (Cena/Asena/Arsena) WILLIAMS was born 3 MAY 1812 in Lincoln County, Missouri, and died AFT 1854 in Texas. She m1: William MILLICAN 1 JUN 1836. He was born UNK, and died 25 NOV 1846. She m2: James Harrison EVETTS/EVERETTS AFT 1846 in Texas. She m3: Suel NORRIS BEF 1860. He was born ABT 1810 in Virginia. Note: Arsena WILLIAMS (24yrs) married widower, William MILLICAN on 1 JUN 1836. - - v. Azubah WILLIAMS was born 15 MAR 1814 in Lincoln County, Missouri, and died 1908. She married Russell WARD 19 NOV 1833 in Texas. He was born ABT 1812 in Scot County, Kentucky. - vi. Joshua WILLIAMS was born 19 APR 1816 in Lincoln County, Missouri, and died 4 DEC 1863 in Libby Prison, New Orleans, Louisiana. He married Sarah Jane KILLINGSWORTH 9 SEP 1852 in Jackson County, Texas. She was born ABT 1833 in Madison County, Kentucky, and died 17 JUL 1905. - vii. Tabitha WILLIAMS was born 16 JAN 1818 in Lincoln County, Missouri, and died abt 1843. She married Charles NORTON, son of Asa NORTON and Anna HAWLEY, 16 January 1838 in St. Landry Parish, LA. - viii. Neal (Neel) WILLIAMS was born 3 MAY 1820 in Lincoln County, Missouri, and died 13 JAN 1879 in Edna, Jackson County, Texas. He m1: Susanna Blythe LOONEY 11 OCT 1848 in Texas. She was born ABT 1828 in Tennessee, and died 3 AUG 1858. He m2: Mary Jane MANKEE 5 APR 1860 in Jackson County, Texas. She was born 16 APR 1839 in Phillips County, Arkansas, and died 4 JAN 1889 in Texas. - ix. Melinda WILLIAMS was born 22 SEP 1822 in Lincoln County, Missouri, and died 10 MAY 1841. She married James Craig PETTIGREW, son of John PETTIGREW and Sarah BAIRD, 6 AUG 1840 in Texas. He was born ABT 1810 in Abbeville, South Carolina, . - x. Sidney WILLIAMS was born 9 MAY 1825 in Lincoln County, Missouri, and died 15 AUG 1825. Note for Charles Norten: He married sisters Louisa and Tabitha. In 1836, Louisa (28yrs) is listed as marrying Charles Norten (26yrs), and dying soon after (c1836 in LA), during childbirth. On 16 January 1838, Tabitha (20 yrs) married Charles Norten (28yrs). ------------- Generation 2 -------------- Sarah Jane WILLIAMS (Job WILLIAMS2, Alambee WILLIAMS1) was born 23 DEC 1810 in Lincoln County, Missouri, and died 27 JAN 1830. She married Edward BEATY , Sr. BEF SEP 1828 in Jackson County, Texas. He was born 6 OCT 1807 in Lee Co, Virginia, died 23 NOV 1867 in Texana, Jackson, Texas. Child of Sarah Jane WILLIAMS and Edward BEATY , Sr. is: i. Martin H. BEATY was born 30 DEC 1828 in Jackson County, Texas, and died 2 JUL 1833. --- Asentha WILLIAMS (Job WILLIAMS2, Alambee WILLIAMS1) was born 3 MAY 1812 in Lincoln County, Missouri, and died AFT 1854 in Texas. She married[1] William MILLICAN 18 NOV 1833 in Jackson Co, TX. He was born UNK, and died 25 NOV 1846. She married[2] James Harrison EVETTS 24 MAY 1844 in Boonville, Brazos Co, TX . He was born 1806 in Smith Co, TX. She married[3] Suel/Sewell NORRIS 11 JUL 1858 in Brazos Co, TX . He was born ABT 1810 in Virginia. - Note for William Millican: William Millican was a widower with four children when he married Asentha Williams. Pleasant, Lightie, Adeline and James Millican. Children of William and first wife Letitia Millican: Robert Groves Millican, Lucinda J. (Millican) White, C. Manerva (Millican) Vess, William Lytle Millican, Loretta Emeline Millican, Pricilla Adeline Millican, b:02 January 1829 Pleasant D. Millican. - Note for James Harrison Evetts: He married [1] Elizabeth; married [2] Julia Price; married [3] Asentha/Arsena Williams. - Child of Asentha WILLIAMS and William MILLICAN are: i. James W. MILLICAN born 10 Dec 1834 in Jackson Co, TX ii. Barret Travis MILLICAN was born Aug 1839, died in 1908 in Gainesville, Cooke Co., Texas . Children of Asentha WILLIAMS and James Harrison EVETTS are: i. Job EVETTS was born ABT 1848 in Texas. ii. Mary Adeline EVETTS was born ABT 1850 in Texas. iii. George Franklin EVETTS was born ABT 1854 in Texas m: Emma Ophelia Slaughter iv. Asena W. EVETTS was born UNKNOWN. --- Azubah WILLIAMS (Job WILLIAMS2, Alambee WILLIAMS1) was born 15 MAR 1814 in Lincoln County, Missouri, and died 1908. She married Russell WARD, son of Evan Ward and Elenor Shannon, 19 NOV 1833 in Texas. He was born 14 Mar 1812 in Scot County, Kentucky, died 1 Apr 1864 in Jackson Co., TX . Children of Azubah WILLIAMS and Russell WARD are: - i. Melinda S. WARD was born ABT 1841 in Jackson County, Texas. ii. Victor Morean WARD was born ABT 1843 in Jackson County, Texas. iii. Samuel W. WARD was born ABT 1848 in Jackson County, Texas. iv. Darwin Stapp WARD was born ABT 1851 in Jackson County, Texas. v. William E. WARD was born ABT 1853 in Jackson County, Texas. vi. Benjamin Shannon WARD was born ABT 1857 in Jackson County, Texas. --- Joshua WILLIAMS (Job WILLIAMS2, Alambee WILLIAMS1) was born 19 APR 1816 in Lincoln County, Missouri, and died 4 DEC 1863 in Libby Prison, New Orleans, Louisiana. He married Sarah Jane KILLINGSWORTH 9 SEP 1852 in Jackson County, Texas. She was born ABT 1833 in Madison County, Kentucky, and died 17 JUL 1905. Child of Joshua WILLIAMS and Sarah Jane KILLINGSWORTH is: i. Francis W. WILLIAMS was born ABT FEB 1860 in Jackson County, Texas, and died BEF 1870 in Texas. --- Neal WILLIAMS (Job WILLIAMS2, Alambee WILLIAMS1) was born 30 MAY 1820 in Lincoln County, Missouri, and died 13 JAN 1879 in Edna, Jackson County, Texas. He married [1] Susanna Blythe LOONEY, daughter of Joseph W. Looney and Lavinia Ernest, on 11 OCT 1848 in Texas. She was born 21 July 1826 in Tennessee, and died 3 AUG 1858. He married[2] Mary Jane MANKEE 5 APR 1860 in Jackson County, Texas. She was born 16 APR 1839 in Phillips County, Arkansas, and died 4 JAN 1889 in Texas. Children of Neal WILLIAMS and Susanna Blythe LOONEY are: i. Nancy WILLIAMS was born 25 OCT 1849 in Jackson County, Texas, and died 13 JAN 1879 in Edna, Jackson County, Texas. She married John Jasper Nolen 29 Aug. 1877 ii. David WILLIAMS was born 22 DEC 1851 in Jackson County, Texas, and died 6 FEB 1873. iii. Thomas Jackson WILLIAMS was born 22 NOV 1853 in Jackson County, Texas, and died 30 JUN 1945. iv. Sarah Melinda WILLIAMS was born 17 JUL 1858 in Jackson County, Texas, and died 2 AUG 1858. Children of Neal WILLIAMS and Mary Jane MANKEE are: i. John Mankee WILLIAMS was born 2 MAR 1861 in Jackson County, Texas, and died JUL 1902. He married Ada GORSEE 9 AUG 1896. ii. Joshua Neal WILLIAMS was born 6 NOV 1863 in Jackson County, Texas, and died 26 OCT 1951. iii. Emily Kate WILLIAMS was born 27 SEP 1866 in Jackson County, Texas, and died 14 JUL 1896 in Jackson County, Texas. ---- SOURCE: 1)Title: "A Genealogical Study of Allumbee Williams and Siblings 1757-1985"-compiled by Joe G. Potter 2)"Woods & Cottle Family from Massachusetts to Texas" by Mary Beth Marchant - documentation. http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=woodscottle1&id=I1104 Information on the Job Williams family from Katie Lee Hunt and Thomas A. Nolen- "A Genealogical Study of Allumbee Williams and Siblings" -compiled by Joe G. Potter MORE SOURCES: Family Group Sheet for the Job WILLIAMS Family http://www.rootsweb.com/~usfgs/tennessee/w/williamsj.html ============= THANKS FOR LOOKING!

    06/18/2007 09:19:28
    1. [WILLIAMS] FW: Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'?
    2. Dorothy White
    3. I am aware of that, Carol. I have only been searching for my Joseph's parents and ancestry for nearly 20 years without success. However, I am convinced that the information you need is out there somewhere and just matter of time and lucking up on records to prove it. I wish you success, too in your quest. Dorothy C. White dotwhite@comcast.net 804.795.4296 -----Original Message----- From: williams-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:williams-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carol Williams Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 2:40 PM To: williams@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? Well Dorothy as I was reading what you sent I had to kinda giggle to myself, you see my husband is a Joseph. I just thought that maybe in your research you had came across another Lemuel in the Duplin Co. area. Hopefully someone else on the list may have an idea about this family. But I am not holding my breath, you Williams are everywhere! Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy White" <dotwhite@comcast.net> To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? > Carol, my Joseph Williams did have a son Lemuel b 1787 in Sampson Co > but > he > moved to Anson Co. and died in Anson Co at close to 100 years old. We do > not know exactly who Joseph's father/parents were but some descendants > declared they were Joseph Williams and Martha Mewborn. Not knowing > Joseph's > original family we don't know if he had siblings nor who they might have > been but here is the name Lemuel and we had no idea where that name came > from. So there might have been a connection. Our Joseph Williams was b > ca > 1748 but I don't know where. He became a Primitive Baptist elder > (preacher) > helping to establish a number of churches in Anson and surrounding > counties. > He died there July 6, 1825 and Martha Perritt, his wife died July 8, 1825 > less than 48 hours after Joseph. Their obit notice states Joseph was 77 > years old and Martha about 2 years younger. I know they were married very > young. I have a copy of his Rev. War record - the sheet stating the unit > he > served in and a muster sheet but it is marked on there that no other > information is available. I have seen where he enlisted in Halifax Co. > but > I haven't found anything to prove that. > > There were so many Joseph Williams men in that northeastern area of > NC, almost as many as those named William Williams. It is difficult > to correctly place him in any one Williams lineage. I know our Joseph > was not of the Samuel Williams/Elizabeth Alston lineage. They had 3 > sons, Samuel, John Joseph and Williams and they were in Bertie Co., > NC. Their son was always referred to as John Joseph, I suppose to > distinguish him from all the other Joseph Williams men. > > My Joseph had 3 sons who married Herring girls, daughters of Joseph > Herring > and Unicy Uzzell in Sampson Co. Henry married Nancy Herring, Hezekiah > married Eunice Herring and Parrott/Perritt married Rhoda Herring (I have > seen her as Bridget Rhoda but that is questionable.) His daughter, Edith > (Eady) married George House in Sampson Co and they stayed there when the > others moved to Anson Co. As far as I have been able to determine our > Joseph Williams was not a descendant of the VA Williams. It is possible > he > descended from Lodwick Williams, his son, Edward Williams and our Joseph's > father could have been the son of that Edward Williams but this has not > been > altogether proven. > > Dorothy White > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/18/2007 08:56:38
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'?
    2. Dorothy White
    3. Carol, my Joseph Williams did have a son Lemuel b 1787 in Sampson Co but he moved to Anson Co. and died in Anson Co at close to 100 years old. We do not know exactly who Joseph's father/parents were but some descendants declared they were Joseph Williams and Martha Mewborn. Not knowing Joseph's original family we don't know if he had siblings nor who they might have been but here is the name Lemuel and we had no idea where that name came from. So there might have been a connection. Our Joseph Williams was b ca 1748 but I don't know where. He became a Primitive Baptist elder (preacher) helping to establish a number of churches in Anson and surrounding counties. He died there July 6, 1825 and Martha Perritt, his wife died July 8, 1825 less than 48 hours after Joseph. Their obit notice states Joseph was 77 years old and Martha about 2 years younger. I know they were married very young. I have a copy of his Rev. War record - the sheet stating the unit he served in and a muster sheet but it is marked on there that no other information is available. I have seen where he enlisted in Halifax Co. but I haven't found anything to prove that. There were so many Joseph Williams men in that northeastern area of NC, almost as many as those named William Williams. It is difficult to correctly place him in any one Williams lineage. I know our Joseph was not of the Samuel Williams/Elizabeth Alston lineage. They had 3 sons, Samuel, John Joseph and Williams and they were in Bertie Co., NC. Their son was always referred to as John Joseph, I suppose to distinguish him from all the other Joseph Williams men. My Joseph had 3 sons who married Herring girls, daughters of Joseph Herring and Unicy Uzzell in Sampson Co. Henry married Nancy Herring, Hezekiah married Eunice Herring and Parrott/Perritt married Rhoda Herring (I have seen her as Bridget Rhoda but that is questionable.) His daughter, Edith (Eady) married George House in Sampson Co and they stayed there when the others moved to Anson Co. As far as I have been able to determine our Joseph Williams was not a descendant of the VA Williams. It is possible he descended from Lodwick Williams, his son, Edward Williams and our Joseph's father could have been the son of that Edward Williams but this has not been altogether proven. Dorothy White

    06/18/2007 08:11:14
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'?
    2. Carol Williams
    3. Well Dorothy as I was reading what you sent I had to kinda giggle to myself, you see my husband is a Joseph. I just thought that maybe in your research you had came across another Lemuel in the Duplin Co. area. Hopefully someone else on the list may have an idea about this family. But I am not holding my breath, you Williams are everywhere! Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy White" <dotwhite@comcast.net> To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? > Carol, my Joseph Williams did have a son Lemuel b 1787 in Sampson Co but > he > moved to Anson Co. and died in Anson Co at close to 100 years old. We do > not know exactly who Joseph's father/parents were but some descendants > declared they were Joseph Williams and Martha Mewborn. Not knowing > Joseph's > original family we don't know if he had siblings nor who they might have > been but here is the name Lemuel and we had no idea where that name came > from. So there might have been a connection. Our Joseph Williams was b > ca > 1748 but I don't know where. He became a Primitive Baptist elder > (preacher) > helping to establish a number of churches in Anson and surrounding > counties. > He died there July 6, 1825 and Martha Perritt, his wife died July 8, 1825 > less than 48 hours after Joseph. Their obit notice states Joseph was 77 > years old and Martha about 2 years younger. I know they were married very > young. I have a copy of his Rev. War record - the sheet stating the unit > he > served in and a muster sheet but it is marked on there that no other > information is available. I have seen where he enlisted in Halifax Co. > but > I haven't found anything to prove that. > > There were so many Joseph Williams men in that northeastern area of NC, > almost as many as those named William Williams. It is difficult to > correctly place him in any one Williams lineage. I know our Joseph was not > of the Samuel Williams/Elizabeth Alston lineage. They had 3 sons, Samuel, > John Joseph and Williams and they were in Bertie Co., NC. Their son was > always referred to as John Joseph, I suppose to distinguish him from all > the > other Joseph Williams men. > > My Joseph had 3 sons who married Herring girls, daughters of Joseph > Herring > and Unicy Uzzell in Sampson Co. Henry married Nancy Herring, Hezekiah > married Eunice Herring and Parrott/Perritt married Rhoda Herring (I have > seen her as Bridget Rhoda but that is questionable.) His daughter, Edith > (Eady) married George House in Sampson Co and they stayed there when the > others moved to Anson Co. As far as I have been able to determine our > Joseph Williams was not a descendant of the VA Williams. It is possible > he > descended from Lodwick Williams, his son, Edward Williams and our Joseph's > father could have been the son of that Edward Williams but this has not > been > altogether proven. > > Dorothy White > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/18/2007 07:40:02
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'?
    2. Dorothy White
    3. I hope your medical procedure goes well and you will be back to normal pronto. Do you have an side name of Claunch/Clonch/Clontz/Cloncs among your Williams ancestors in Mercer, KY? I am descended from HIeronymus Glantz/Claunch/Clontz. Some of his descendants living/lived in Mercer County, KY? I am descended from Joseph Williams first found in Duplin Co. (that part that became Sampson Co) NC in the 1760's and moved to Anson County, NC around 1800. Some of his children and grandchildren have been found in TN and AR. But most stayed in Anson Co., NC with a number of his descendants still living in Monroe, NC and Union Co. that part that was once Anson Co. before 1842. If you have any Claunch, etc. information I would really appreciate comparing research. Dorothy C. White dotwhite@comcast.net

    06/18/2007 06:53:59
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'?
    2. Carol Williams
    3. Dorothy, I seen your post of earlier on Joseph Williams family, I am wondering, did any of the family go back to Duplin Co.? I am trying to find my husbands ggg-grandfather. I have some unverified information that he may have been Lemuel Williams b.1806, Onslow Co. m Norma Ann Cox. His son Dr. Daniel Allen Williams b. 18 Nov 1839, Duplin Co. I show Lemuel's father as John Williams m. Sarah or Sallie Sanders. If you have no info on this family, if anyone on the list has any info please notify me, I don't mind sharing what I have. Thanks for any help, Carol Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy White" <dotwhite@comcast.net> To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Being polite - May I check for your WILLIAMS 'tribe'? >I hope your medical procedure goes well and you will be back to normal > pronto. > > Do you have an side name of Claunch/Clonch/Clontz/Cloncs among your > Williams > ancestors in Mercer, KY? I am descended from HIeronymus > Glantz/Claunch/Clontz. Some of his descendants living/lived in Mercer > County, KY? > > I am descended from Joseph Williams first found in Duplin Co. (that part > that became Sampson Co) NC in the 1760's and moved to Anson County, NC > around 1800. Some of his children and grandchildren have been found in TN > and AR. But most stayed in Anson Co., NC with a number of his descendants > still living in Monroe, NC and Union Co. that part that was once Anson Co. > before 1842. > > If you have any Claunch, etc. information I would really appreciate > comparing research. > > Dorothy C. White > dotwhite@comcast.net > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/18/2007 06:30:48