I saw the same thing years ago on another surname list. It is a genealogy joke that we can all enjoy. We need to laugh at our obsession from time to time. Diana

I just came upon an ancestress who sued her husband for running away with a slave in 1835, leaving the wife penniless and powerless. The court suit reminded me of what happened when my parents divorced 133 years later, except for the slave part. The truth of that tail is important because my mother remembers the child of that marriage as STERN and humorless. I guess she was -- when she was 15 her father ran off with a slave and left his wife and daughters penniless. I'd probably be humorless too. But it explained some things. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I must have missed whatever all is talking about.......PLEASE send it again so I can read it........thanks pj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter F. Williams" <WaltFW@comcast.net> To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams, Remus >I wish I could throw words together that well (of course without streaching > the truth quite that far!!). I broke up when I saw it and sent it to all > my > family. > Walt > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Pjpeters2@aol.com> > To: <williams@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams, Remus > > >> >> In a message dated 6/23/2007 7:52:26 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> dotwhite@comcast.net writes: >> >> That is a treasure and a fine play with words. It is hilarious. >> >> >> >> While it certainly is hilarious, I prefer to record things as they >> really >> are.....we are never responsible for what our ancestors were or did, & I >> am >> sure a lot of us has learned some things we didn't like. But still, >> genealogy >> should be truth, as much as we can find, & recorded as such.. >> >> Peggy >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I wish I could throw words together that well (of course without streaching the truth quite that far!!). I broke up when I saw it and sent it to all my family. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pjpeters2@aol.com> To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams, Remus > > In a message dated 6/23/2007 7:52:26 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dotwhite@comcast.net writes: > > That is a treasure and a fine play with words. It is hilarious. > > > > While it certainly is hilarious, I prefer to record things as they really > are.....we are never responsible for what our ancestors were or did, & I > am > sure a lot of us has learned some things we didn't like. But still, > genealogy > should be truth, as much as we can find, & recorded as such.. > > Peggy > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Oh yes. Never would I allow a word or any part of a document or record to be changed on those precious papers. From them we learn how our ancestors thought and lived. Dorothy C. White dotwhite@comcast.net 804.795.4296

Does anyone share this migration pattern? The general migration for my Williams line begins in Dorchester Co., MD 1757> Guilford Co., NC 1781; Rockingham Co., NC> Logan County, KY> Sumner Co, TN 1804 > Lincoln Co., MO 1821> Gonzales, TX [DeWitt Colony] 1830. Not all of this line went to TX but those that did were there by 1830 when it was still the Republic of Texas.

In a message dated 6/23/2007 7:52:26 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dotwhite@comcast.net writes: That is a treasure and a fine play with words. It is hilarious. While it certainly is hilarious, I prefer to record things as they really are.....we are never responsible for what our ancestors were or did, & I am sure a lot of us has learned some things we didn't like. But still, genealogy should be truth, as much as we can find, & recorded as such.. Peggy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

That is a treasure and a fine play with words. It is hilarious. Dorothy White

An amateur genealogical researcher discovered that his great-great uncle, Remus Williams, a fellow lacking in character, was hanged for horse stealing and train robbery in Montana in 1889. The only known photograph of Remus shows him standing on the gallows. On the back of the picture is this inscription: "Remus Williams; horse thief; sent to Montana Territorial Prison 1885, escaped 1887; robbed the Montana Flyer six times. Caught by Pinkerton detectives. Convicted and hanged 1889." In a Family History subsequently written by the researcher, Remus's picture is cropped so that all that's seen is a head shot. The accompanying biographical sketch is as follows: "Remus Williams was a famous cowboy in the Montana Territory. His business empire grew to include acquisition of valuable equestrian assets and intimate dealings with the Montana railroad. Beginning in 1885, he devoted several years of his life to service at a government facility, finally taking leave to resume his dealings with the railroad. In 1887, he was a key player in a vital investigation run by the renowned Pinkerton Detective Agency. In 1889, Remus passed away during an important civic function held in his honor when the platform upon which he was standing collapsed."

In today's Abilene Reporter-News (TX) an obituary for the above individual He was born in Mills Co., TX parents are not named, both deceased If this person is of interest to you, the full obit should be online at either the newspaper or see if McCoy Funeral Home in Sweetwater, TX has a website. I have no connection to him -just thought someone on the list might. Judith Williams Busch

Judy: I am actually looking for H. G., H. , (possibly Henry) Williams, age 18 or 19 in the 1850 census (he was born in 1832).   He was born in NC and is in AL when first documented in 1860.   He could be in either state or in any state between.  I have no clues about names of his parents or siblings.   His first three children were named for famous men (Andrew Jackson, Benjamin Franklin and Napoleon).  Larry -----Original Message----- From: Howard & Judith Busch <hobusch@camalott.com> To: williams@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 8:04 am Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Henry Williams N.C I'm not sure if we're looking for William or Henry or both. In Choctaw Co. AL 1870 there is a "Wm" age 68 with a younger wife or aughter Rebecca. t shows him born GA - no mention of a Henry. I brought up a list of all WILLIAMS households in Blount Co. in 1870. o Henry's listed. There are a lot of H Williams in 1870 AL, but not sure what age to look for. Judy Busch ----- Original Message ----- rom: "Estelle Hucks" <dehucks@gmail.com> o: <williams@rootsweb.com> ent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:52 AM ubject: [WILLIAMS] Henry Williams N.C Does any one have a Henry Williams on the 1810 census in Anson County, North Carolina Page 13 Henry Williams 2 males under 10 3 males 10-15 1 male 26-44 1 female under 10 1 female 16-25 1 female 26-44 My William Williams born in N.C about 1798. His oldest son name was Henry. I'm looking for a needle in a haystack. William mved to Georgia County unknown 1850 Randolph County, Alabama age 52 1860 Blount County, Alabama age 55 Cannot find 1870 1880 in Blount County, Alabama age 8 Anyone out there have him. from rainy Oklahoma ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

I'm wondering if this Ralph Williams might have anything to do with Captain Ralph Williams, born 1735 in Person County, NC; married Ann Potter Walker 27 Aug 1778 in Granville County, NC, and died 1806 Oxford, Granville County, NC? Walt Boswell unclebucks69@knology.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "N & K Chestnut" <nkopportunity@gorge.net> To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:04 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS] Fw: Ralph C. WILLIAMS b. Jun 1896 > Ralph C. WILLIAMS b. Jun 1896 - probably the youngest son of Amos P. > WILLIAMS & Millie WELLS. > > Kay (Williams) C. > > P.S. - Probably not the same Ralph that is being discussed below. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: johnsmith1773@yahoo.com > To: williams@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:18 PM > Subject: [WILLIAMS] Ralph Williams and Margaret > > > Ralph Williams was born in 1821 in Lawrence County, Arkansas. He died on > 20 Sep 1872 in Texas. > > Ralph married Margaret about 1843 in Arkansas. Margaret was born circa > 1824 in Lawrence County, Arkansas. She died on 15 Apr 1907 in Texas. > > They had the following children: > > 1. Hannah Emily Williams was born on 8 Dec 1845 in Tallahatchie County, > Mississippi. She died circa 1928 in Arkansas. > 2. Ruth Violet Williams was born about 1849 in Mississippi. She died in > 1907 in Arkansas. > 3. Sarah Betty Williams was born in 1852 in Mississippi. She died on 20 > Aug 1901 in Illinois. > 4. Helen Ada Williams was born about 1856 in Tallahatchie County, > Mississippi. She died in 1922 in Louisiana. > 5. Peter M. Williams was born on 8 May 1859 in Mississippi. He died in > 1859 in Tallahatchie County, Mississippi. > 6. Alfred Norris Williams was born about 1862 in Tallahatchie County, > Mississippi. He died in 1918 in Missouri. > 7. Matilda Amanda Williams was born in 1865 in Tallahatchie County, > Mississippi. She died on 6 Oct 1919 in Missouri. > > > http://www.jonesfamilygenealogy.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ralph Williams was born in 1821 in Lawrence County, Arkansas. He died on > 20 Sep 1872 in Texas. > > Ralph married Margaret about 1843 in Arkansas. Margaret was born circa > 1824 in Lawrence County, Arkansas. She died on 15 Apr 1907 in Texas. From: johnsmith1773@yahoo.com I believe this is the Ralph WILLIAMS of which Walt BOSWELL is speaking. Not a Ralph C. WILLIAMS born Jun 1896 to Amos P. WILLIAMS & Millie WELLS, which I (Kay) put in the subject line. From: "N & K Chestnut" <nkopportunity@gorge.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Walt Boswell To: williams@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Fw: Ralph C. WILLIAMS b. Jun 1896 I'm wondering if this Ralph Williams might have anything to do with Captain Ralph Williams, born 1735 in Person County, NC; married Ann Potter Walker 27 Aug 1778 in Granville County, NC, and died 1806 Oxford, Granville County, NC? Walt Boswell unclebucks69@knology.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "N & K Chestnut" <nkopportunity@gorge.net> To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:04 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS] Fw: Ralph C. WILLIAMS b. Jun 1896 > Ralph C. WILLIAMS b. Jun 1896 - probably the youngest son of Amos P. > WILLIAMS & Millie WELLS. > > Kay (Williams) C. > > P.S. - Probably not the same Ralph that is being discussed below. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: johnsmith1773@yahoo.com > To: williams@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:18 PM > Subject: [WILLIAMS] Ralph Williams and Margaret > > Ralph Williams was born in 1821 in Lawrence County, Arkansas. He died on > 20 Sep 1872 in Texas. > > Ralph married Margaret about 1843 in Arkansas. Margaret was born circa > 1824 in Lawrence County, Arkansas. She died on 15 Apr 1907 in Texas. > > They had the following children: > > 1. Hannah Emily Williams was born on 8 Dec 1845 in Tallahatchie County, > Mississippi. She died circa 1928 in Arkansas. > 2. Ruth Violet Williams was born about 1849 in Mississippi. She died in > 1907 in Arkansas. > 3. Sarah Betty Williams was born in 1852 in Mississippi. She died on 20 > Aug 1901 in Illinois. > 4. Helen Ada Williams was born about 1856 in Tallahatchie County, > Mississippi. She died in 1922 in Louisiana. > 5. Peter M. Williams was born on 8 May 1859 in Mississippi. He died in > 1859 in Tallahatchie County, Mississippi. > 6. Alfred Norris Williams was born about 1862 in Tallahatchie County, > Mississippi. He died in 1918 in Missouri. > 7. Matilda Amanda Williams was born in 1865 in Tallahatchie County, > Mississippi. She died on 6 Oct 1919 in Missouri. > http://www.jonesfamilygenealogy.com

Seeking WILLIAMS' at least three different families (unrelated) kin thru various lines. ILLINIOS; Fred b ca. 1852, wife Ann ERDWINS b. 1857 and children; Mary b. 1876 and Jetta b. Jan 1880 from the Champaign Co IL census. Some family members think they lived near Peoria. They were of german ancestry. Tenn. Aaron Crawford WILLIAMS b.ca 1770 d..1860 McDonald Co Mo. md. First or second a Nancy SIMMONS. records indicate migration thru Bedford Co. TN, Indiana, Missouri. Oldest child Zouri(actually Missouri) md. a GILLENWATER. Mo; a good dozen; Merritt in Howard Co., William with wife Ann Titus in Howard, Ray, and Henry Co., Squire Frank, Henry Co., William with wife Eliza Cooper and two children Minerva and Alexander, who are in Pettis Co. , mother Eliza remarried Grissom Reed LEE. Hazel,a male b. 1904 s/o Alexander and Evie Goodpasture, ran away from home ?after mother died? Who was Alexander's second wife if any? Iowa maybe a clue. TEXAS; In the Galveston area , John, a charter boatman until in the 1990'salso called "Stacks" His son and grandson were also Johns, Who are wives? And where are they today. My WILLIAMS list, male names only, is more than two pages long. dwsbgs@centurytel.net

Ralph C. WILLIAMS b. Jun 1896 - probably the youngest son of Amos P. WILLIAMS & Millie WELLS. Kay (Williams) C. P.S. - Probably not the same Ralph that is being discussed below. ----- Original Message ----- From: johnsmith1773@yahoo.com To: williams@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:18 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS] Ralph Williams and Margaret Ralph Williams was born in 1821 in Lawrence County, Arkansas. He died on 20 Sep 1872 in Texas. Ralph married Margaret about 1843 in Arkansas. Margaret was born circa 1824 in Lawrence County, Arkansas. She died on 15 Apr 1907 in Texas. They had the following children: 1. Hannah Emily Williams was born on 8 Dec 1845 in Tallahatchie County, Mississippi. She died circa 1928 in Arkansas. 2. Ruth Violet Williams was born about 1849 in Mississippi. She died in 1907 in Arkansas. 3. Sarah Betty Williams was born in 1852 in Mississippi. She died on 20 Aug 1901 in Illinois. 4. Helen Ada Williams was born about 1856 in Tallahatchie County, Mississippi. She died in 1922 in Louisiana. 5. Peter M. Williams was born on 8 May 1859 in Mississippi. He died in 1859 in Tallahatchie County, Mississippi. 6. Alfred Norris Williams was born about 1862 in Tallahatchie County, Mississippi. He died in 1918 in Missouri. 7. Matilda Amanda Williams was born in 1865 in Tallahatchie County, Mississippi. She died on 6 Oct 1919 in Missouri. http://www.jonesfamilygenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

How old was your uncle at time of death? Frank Horton ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Thanks for responding. i am not sure. I believe he was born June 15, 1891. this is supported by the 1930 census when he lived at 1515 1/2 Main street in Elwood, Indiana. He was in the Anderson city Directory in 1941 and again in 1943. When he moved to Middletown I don't know. His death certificate is all mixed up. Birth date is wrong and his parents names are also wrong. His mother was Ella Russell Williams and his father was John W Williams I can't find Ella anyplace. She and herschell lived at 419 8th Street in Anderson in 1943. Herschell, as mentioned above was still there in 1943 but ella was not. > > From: BushBar@aol.com > Date: 2007/06/21 Thu PM 12:28:28 EST > To: williams@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Herschell Williams > > How old was your uncle at time of death? Frank Horton > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Take a look at this census: 1900 IN Madison Co Pipe Creek tsp Williams John H or W Jan 1861 39 married 16yrs IN Unk Unk laborer plate glass Williams Ella wife Apr 1862 38 married 16yrs 5 born 3 living IN DEL OH Williams Herchel G son May 1889 11 IN IN IN Williams Cora E dau May 1875 5 IL IN IN 1880 IN Daviess Madison McElroy Henderson 41 farmer PA PA OH " Elizabeth W 42 wife OH OH OH Russell W W 21 nephew laborer on farm IN OH OH Russell E J 20 niece teacher IN OH OH Russell Ella B 18 niece IN OH OH familysearch.org John Williams m. Ella Russell 15 JUl 1883 Tipton County IN submitted by member ---- crosley5@bellsouth.net wrote: > Is there anyone still alive who may have relatives in Middletown, Indiana (Henry County )who may have known My uncle Herschell G. Williams? > > He lived at 330 Locus Street in Middletown. > > He passed away on 29 July 1962 and apparently was buried in Miller Cemetary. > > I am interested in Herschell and more importantly his mother, my grandmother, Ella Williams. > > Edward Jennings > Pigeon Forge, TN > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is this your Hershell? 1930 IN Henry CoNew Castle Williams Arthur head 48 m at 26 IN IN INlaborer Williams Lizzie wife 41 m at 10 IN IN WV Williams Virginia dau 14 IN IN IN Williams Hershell son 10 IN IN IN Williams Lawrence son 5 IN IN IN Williams Pauline dau 3 4/12ths IN IN IN Hahn Richard grandson 1 8/12ths IN IN IN 1920 IN Henry LIberty Williams Arthur C head 37 IN OH IN Williams Lizzie C wife 30 IN IN WV Williams Mae I dau 10 IN IN IN Williams Virginia O dau 4 3/12ths IN IN IN WWI Draft Registration Sep 12, 1918 Arthur C Williams 36 b. April 5, 1882 living in New Castle Henry IN laborer at Maxwell Motor Co nearest relative Lizzie C Williams in New Castle height medium build small eyes grey hair brown 1910 IN Henry Co Henry Williams Mary H head 56 Wd 4 born 4 living OH OH OH Williams Arthur C son 28 married once 2 yrs IN OH OH Williams Lizzie C dauinlaw 21 married once 2 yrs 1 born 1 living IN IN VA Williams May I grdau 3/12 IN IN IN IN Marriage Collection 1800-1941 Lizzie C Bales m. Arthur Williams 7 Dec 1908 Henry Co IN 1900 IN Henry Co Blue River Bales Levi head Feb 1841 59 m 14yrs IN TN IN Bales Virginia wife Apr 1863 36 m 14yrs 6 born 6 living WV WV WV Bales Lillie dau Jul 1880 19 IN Bales Mary dau Aug 1887 12 IN Bales Lizzie dau Mar 1889 11 IN Bales Joseph son Jan 1891 9 IN Bales Herbert son Jul 1893 6 IN Bales Nellie dau May 1896 4 IN Bales Ida dau Sep 1899 6/12th IN 1880 IN Henry Co Blue River Bales Levi 39 farmer IN TN OH Bales Emeline 31 wife IN NC IN no children living next door is a Lewis Bales probably a brother and his family 1870 IN Henry Co Blue River Bales Joseph 53 farmer TN Bales Ann 50 keeping house OH Bales Levi 20 farmer IN Bales Catharine 30 IN Bales Henry 17 IN living next door Lewis Bales and family 1860 IN Henry Blue River Joseph Bales 42 farmer TN Ann Bales 41 OH Catherine Bales 21 IN Levi Bales 19 IN Lewis Bales 17 IN Dillen Bales 15 IN Emily Bales 12 IN Henry Bales 9 IN This is not my family. I hope this is helpful. ---- crosley5@bellsouth.net wrote: > Is there anyone still alive who may have relatives in Middletown, Indiana (Henry County )who may have known My uncle Herschell G. Williams? > > He lived at 330 Locus Street in Middletown. > > He passed away on 29 July 1962 and apparently was buried in Miller Cemetary. > > I am interested in Herschell and more importantly his mother, my grandmother, Ella Williams. > > Edward Jennings > Pigeon Forge, TN > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there anyone still alive who may have relatives in Middletown, Indiana (Henry County )who may have known My uncle Herschell G. Williams? He lived at 330 Locus Street in Middletown. He passed away on 29 July 1962 and apparently was buried in Miller Cemetary. I am interested in Herschell and more importantly his mother, my grandmother, Ella Williams. Edward Jennings Pigeon Forge, TN