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    1. [WILLIAMS] WILLIAMS WILLS
    2. MICHAEL SPENCER
    3. Hi list, of the over 40 WILLIAMS Wills proved at Derby 1858-1928 several indicate that the testator once lived elswhere outside the County and as such are potential "lost" ancestors. Those Wills are listed below. Eleanor WILLIAMS, Burton on Trent, Staffs. Proved 1914 George Henry WILLIAMS , Manchester ,Lancs and Chapel en le Frith, Dbys. 1877 John Birkett WILLIAMS, Liverpool, Lancs. 1867 John Skidmore WILLIAMS, Bristol, Gloucs. and Derby 1884 Joseph WILLIAMS ,Wednesbury,Staffs . 1873 Sarah WILLIAMS, Stapleford, Notts 1925 Thomas WILLIAMS, Southport,Lancs. 1905 William Preece WILLIAMS, Sheffield, Yks 1922 mike http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

    07/05/2007 10:44:52
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams migration patterns
    2. SHERYL WILLIAMS
    3. Hi Wayne, I wasn't able to locate Crafton in my files. My Williams line was already in Texas by 1850 but it appears our lines did follow a similar migration, NC>MO - just not during the same time frame. They could still possible be kin, but until we get this enormous tangled Williams Web sorted out, these distant connections will remain a mystery...sigh. With unique names I often run searches through RootsWeb WorldConnect, the "fuzzy search/soundex" feature can be very helpful. I also check for surnames vs. given names, ie. Williams married Crafton/Craft spouse. This has been a great place to find hints and even other descendants. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ I'll keep your Crafton in mind during my research, Sheryl Wayne and Peggy Horton <wphor@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Sheryl, Do you have any information on a Crafton Williams, living in Lincoln County, Mo in 1850. He was born abt. 1770 in NC. My interest is in locating the father of Elizabeth Williams, born 1808, probably Caswell County, NC. She married James Horton 3 Nov. 1826 in Caswell County, NC and then moved to Mo. prior to 1840. In 1850 he also is in Lincoln County. Crafton is the only Williams that I found in Caswell at the time of their marrriage that would be the right age to be her father and that both families relocated to Lincoln Co. There are other Williams in Lincoln Co. who may be brothers to Elizabeth. Appreciate any help in connecting these families. Wayne Horton ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/03/2007 06:09:19
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams migration patterns
    2. Walter F. Williams
    3. Wayne: I assume that the James Williams age 35 living next door to Elizabeth Horton in 1850 is a brother? My Williams line in Lincoln County 1850 is Alexander Hardin Williams who was born in KY and his father was Hanson (or Henson) Williams born in Loudoun County VA. I know of no connection. Good luck. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne and Peggy Horton" <wphor@sbcglobal.net> To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams migration patterns > Sheryl, > > Do you have any information on a Crafton Williams, living in Lincoln > County, Mo in 1850. He was born abt. 1770 in NC. > > My interest is in locating the father of Elizabeth Williams, born 1808, > probably Caswell County, NC. She married James Horton 3 Nov. 1826 in > Caswell County, NC and then moved to Mo. prior to 1840. In 1850 he also > is in Lincoln County. Crafton is the only Williams that I found in > Caswell at the time of their marrriage that would be the right age to be > her father and that both families relocated to Lincoln Co. There are > other Williams in Lincoln Co. who may be brothers to Elizabeth. > > Appreciate any help in connecting these families. > Wayne Horton > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/02/2007 03:48:42
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams migration patterns
    2. Wayne and Peggy Horton
    3. Sheryl, Do you have any information on a Crafton Williams, living in Lincoln County, Mo in 1850. He was born abt. 1770 in NC. My interest is in locating the father of Elizabeth Williams, born 1808, probably Caswell County, NC. She married James Horton 3 Nov. 1826 in Caswell County, NC and then moved to Mo. prior to 1840. In 1850 he also is in Lincoln County. Crafton is the only Williams that I found in Caswell at the time of their marrriage that would be the right age to be her father and that both families relocated to Lincoln Co. There are other Williams in Lincoln Co. who may be brothers to Elizabeth. Appreciate any help in connecting these families. Wayne Horton

    07/01/2007 12:35:29
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams-genealogy website
    2. Dorothy White
    3. Pam, it looks as if our Joseph Williams ancestor, Lodowick Williams went from Wales, departing Bristol, England for Barbados as an indentured servant of Matthew Powell. Then his indenture was purchased by a man who took him to the Baltimore area where Lodowick married his daughter then later moved to northeastern NC. That Lodowick had a son, Edward who had a son, Joseph Williams that is thought to have married Mary Mewborn who they were the parents of our Joseph Williams. There has been no proof of the connection of those two Joseph Williams being father and son, however. And that is what I have been working so hard on trying to establish. There is good documentation of Lodowick Williams down to Edward Williams' will naming a son, Joseph but then there is no proof that this Joseph Williams married Mary Mewborn. Only the fact that our Joseph Williams and Martha Perritt/Parrott named one of their sons Mewborn. The old family stories are not reliable but records have been found to prove everything except the Joseph s/o Joseph (grandson of Edward) marrying Mary Mewborn. Thomas Mewborn (the only Mewborn found in the early Bertie Co., NC records) did have a will (1749) naming his only daughter as Mary but gave no married name. By Joseph Williams and Martha Perritt naming a son Mewborn (proven by Joseph's will) would indicate a strong connection to the/a Mewborn family. That is our brick was. Of course we could be headed in the wrong direction but a thorough search of records all down the line looks pretty promising. The affidavits have the name Paul as adopting Joseph Williams could so easily have been Powell and by his being indentured to Matthew Powell, the story could have been picked up as adopted. All these affidavits were made by 3rd and 4th generation descendants of our Joseph who married Martha Perritt and you know how word of mouth gets changed so easily.

    07/01/2007 11:42:22
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams-genealogy website
    2. Pamela
    3. Thank you Sheryl....I have WILLIAMS in Swansea, Glamorganshire..who married into my SEARLE connections .... Are any listers researching these lines? Best wishes On 30/06/07, SHERYL WILLIAMS <sherwillia60@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Hello to all, > I just received this post on the Williams GenForum and thought it might > be helpful for others. > The "Williams Biographies taken from a 1800s Encyclopedia (PDF File)" > are especially neat! > > Posted by: jud williams > The complete history of the Glamorganshire, Wales, Wethersfield, CT, > Essex County, New Jersey Williams family from 1630 till 1910 taken from > Volume III of the "Genealogical and > Memorial History of the State of New Jersey" is now on the > - > www.williams-genealogy.com website. > - > Every page from > 1222 to 1263 has been scanned and reproduced here. This > resource contains historic biographies with descriptions of the > temperament, political affiliations, religions, occupations and loyalties > of hundreds of these early Williams'. An absolute wealth of > information for anyone researching the surname of Williams. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Pamela in Victoria, Australia Primary Email: <Genealogy2007@gmail.com> Secondary Email: <missuspjn@vic.chariot.net.au> Researching: Cornwall: Best, Hitchens, Nicholls, Rundle, Searle, Williams Devon: Budge, Orchard Essex: French Kent: French, Greenhead, Lepard, Ongley Somerset: Clutterbuck, Hodges, Kneebone, Lax, Nicholls, Wilkinson Yorkshire: Bishop, Holmes Scotland: Black, Mowbray, Wedderburn Ireland: Clulow Australia: Budge China: Oseen [Ah Singh?] Unknown: James, McIntyre, Vaughan

    06/30/2007 12:57:15
    1. [WILLIAMS] Williams-genealogy website
    2. SHERYL WILLIAMS
    3. Hello to all, I just received this post on the Williams GenForum and thought it might be helpful for others. The "Williams Biographies taken from a 1800s Encyclopedia (PDF File)" are especially neat! Posted by: jud williams The complete history of the Glamorganshire, Wales, Wethersfield, CT, Essex County, New Jersey Williams family from 1630 till 1910 taken from Volume III of the "Genealogical and Memorial History of the State of New Jersey" is now on the - www.williams-genealogy.com website. - Every page from 1222 to 1263 has been scanned and reproduced here. This resource contains historic biographies with descriptions of the temperament, political affiliations, religions, occupations and loyalties of hundreds of these early Williams'. An absolute wealth of information for anyone researching the surname of Williams.

    06/30/2007 10:15:09
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams migration patterns
    2. SHERYL WILLIAMS
    3. Hi Skip, Sorry for the delay in response...just got way behind on my emails. I have seen some of your other queries and it seems there are many of us with elusive ancestors from this time period primarily in the North Carolina area. Mine apparently starting in MD then enlisting in Guilford, NC, then residing in Rockingham, NC before migrating west. Your David Williams would have been in NC and migrating to TN around the same period as my gggggrandmother Mary Elizabeth "Betsy" Williams who first married her cousin William Williams [not yet indentified], this is the line I am from, she later married Winslow Turner II. I figure if I can firmly identify her father Allen B. Williams' family line, then hopefully I can locate both of my Williams lines. What are some of allied surnames connected with your Williams line? Sheryl -- I show a David Williams born in this line [too young to be yours, perhaps a namesake?]: David WILLIAMS, son of Neal WILLIAMS and Susanna Blythe LOONEY, was born 22 DEC 1851 in Jackson County, Texas, and died 6 FEB 1873. - - Neal (Neel/Neil) WILLIAMS, son of Job WILLIAMS and Nancy CAMPBELL, was born 3 MAY 1820 in Lincoln County, Missouri, and died 13 JAN 1879 in Edna, Jackson County, Texas. He m1: Susanna Blythe LOONEY 11 OCT 1848 in Texas. She was born ABT 1828 in Tennessee, and died 3 AUG 1858. He m2: Mary Jane MANKEE 5 APR 1860 in Jackson County, Texas. She was born 16 APR 1839 in Phillips County, Arkansas, and died 4 JAN 1889 in Texas. - - Job WILLIAMS, son of Alambee WILLIAMS and Sarah "Sally" UNK., was born ABT 1783 in North Carolina, and died 14 APR 1853 in Texas. He married Nancy CAMPBELL 10 OCT 1804 in Sumner County, Tennessee. - - Alembe [Allen B.] WILLIAMS, son of Unk. WILLIAMS, was born abt. 1757 in [Dorchester, MD?], and died AFT 13 MAY 1835 in [Troy] Lincoln County, Missouri. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Spelled several different ways in research papers: Alembe, Alumbe, Alambe, Alembee, Alumbee, Alambee, Allumbee, Alum, Allam B., Allenbee. Allenby Williams or Allen B. Williams are most likely the accurate given name. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - I RECENTLY POSTED A 1790 FEDERAL CENSUS INDEX FOR "WILLIAMS" ON GENFORUM. I hope it's helpful for someone. - Part 1 -- 1790 Federal Census // WILLIAMS Heads of Household http://genforum.genealogy.com/williams/messages/32046.html Part 2 -- 1790 Federal Census // WILLIAMS Heads of Household http://genforum.genealogy.com/williams/messages/32047.html Skip <runamok@shawneelink.net> wrote: ---- Sheryl..... My Williams ancestors ..Namely one David Williams b.1792 NC, along with parents and siblings, migrated from Guilford, NC c.1796 >> Sumner/Smith Co., TN c.1800 >> Kentucky abt 1826 >> Franklin Co., IL (Southern IL) Have no idea who David's parents or siblings were... He is my brick wall... He had to be in Sumner/SmithCo., TN by 1810 because he served in the War of 1812 from Carthage, TN. Some of this family did migrated on to Texas at later dates. Skip Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: SHERYL WILLIAMS To: Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 6:09 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS] Williams migration patterns > Does anyone share this migration pattern? > > The general migration for my Williams line begins in Dorchester Co., MD 1757> Guilford Co., NC 1781; Rockingham Co., NC> Logan County, KY> Sumner Co, TN 1804 > Lincoln Co., MO 1821> Gonzales, TX [DeWitt Colony] 1830. > > Not all of this line went to TX but those that did were there by 1830 when it was still the Republic of Texas. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/863 - Release Date: 6/23/07 11:08 AM > >

    06/30/2007 08:07:28
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams migration patterns
    2. SHERYL WILLIAMS
    3. Hi Walter, Thanks for the note. I knew I recognized your name as we corresponded off list back in Jan. 07. I sent a fairly lengthy file but when I didn't hear back I assumed we do not share the same Williams line. Perhaps you wouldn't mind checking through what I sent previously once more just to be sure we don't share mutual ancestors. Thanks for your efforts, Sheryl Allumbee Williams was a Revolutionary soldier. He lived on the Troy and Millwood(12 miles NW of Troy) Road, on the farm now belonging to William Fasse-...the old James Trail place. His cabin stood across the road northeast from the old Trail house, almost under the hill and near the spring. He was a member of the first grand jury of Lincoln County, Missouri Source: History of Lincoln Co. Mo, by Joseph Q. Mudd pub 1878 HERE ARE SOME GREAT LINKS: - History of Lincoln County, Missouri By Dr. Joseph A. Mudd - Index http://www.rootsweb.com/~molincol/history/history-mudd-index.htm - The USGenWeb / MOGenWeb Project History of Lincoln County, Missouri http://www.rootsweb.com/~molincol/history.htm ---------- Index to "History of Lincoln County, Missouri" >From the earliest time to the present, 1888 published by Chicago: The Goodspeed Publishing Co, 1888 - Williams, Alambe 229, 235, 238 Williams, Ben R. 238 Williams, Benjamin R. 632 Williams, Job 229, 235 Williams, John C. 631 Williams, Mrs. Frances 249 Williams, Robert S. 630 Williams, Romulus 631 -------- http://www.rootsweb.com/~molincol/history/history-mudd-2.htm#20 p.20 The first Grand Jury was composed of Joseph Cottle, John Null, Prospect K. Robbins, Samuel H. Lewis, Thacker Vivion, Job Williams, Alembe Williams, Jr., Jeremiah Groshong, John Bell, Jacob Null, Sr., John Hunter, Elijah Collard, William Harrell, Jacob Null, Jr., Isaac Cannon, Hiram Millsaps, Alembe Williams, Sr., and Zachariah Callaway, “who after being duly sworn and charged, retired to their room, and were discharged.” - His son Alembe Williams, Jr. was appointed Judge of election of Bedford Township [Troy] Missouri - "Walter F. Williams" <WaltFW@comcast.net> wrote: Sheryl: Good evening. What are the names and dates and locations in Lincoln Co MO? I don't think we are talking the same, but who knows. I'll br happy to swap files. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHERYL WILLIAMS" To: Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 7:09 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS] Williams migration patterns > Does anyone share this migration pattern? > > The general migration for my Williams line begins in Dorchester Co., MD > 1757> Guilford Co., NC 1781; Rockingham Co., NC> Logan County, KY> Sumner > Co, TN 1804 > Lincoln Co., MO 1821> Gonzales, TX [DeWitt Colony] 1830. > > Not all of this line went to TX but those that did were there by 1830 > when it was still the Republic of Texas. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/30/2007 07:46:04
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Posting Dilemna
    2. Carol C-H
    3. My ancestor William Williams, probably South Ebensburg, PA was born in 1756 and married twice. I am a descendant of this second marriage, wife's name Ann (Anne, Anna - ?) His son was Eben Williams b. October 24, 1807; m. Jane Morgan, b. April 5, 1806. Eben and Jane had a daughter, Mary Ann Williams, b. 1838 who married William R. Jones, b. 1824. I am specifically interested in when William Williams or his wife arrived on this side of the ocean. Any information welcome. >Historically, > >Jo Ann (Wissinger, Roberts, Jones, Williams) Lucas

    06/26/2007 08:04:33
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] WILLIAMS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137
    2. RODGER D NORTON
    3. Hi, Listers Williams; N.C.>Ohio>Indiana. I have a Caleb Williams born in Guilford Co., N. C. June 30, 1780, the son of Jesse S. & Eleanor (Johnson) Williams. He was married to Sara Sutherland, He died in Rockville, Parke Co. Indiana. Also I have a Caleb Roberson Williams, in my Williams family married to Jane Ward, who he married Oct. 18, 1836, in Prebal Co, Ohio. I don't have much history on the Caleb Williams. But this Williams family has a long and colorful history. Some of there history is; one run a news paper in Cincinnati, Ohio called 'The Spy', during the Civil War, others helped build the canal, and the construction of the Grand Lake St. Marys. Rodger D. Norton

    06/26/2007 01:28:18
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Caleb Williams of Cumberland Co., KY
    2. JC MCLAUGHLIN
    3. No, but he could have had a nephew. My Caleb had 2 brothers, John H. and Thomas, who could have had a son named Caleb born about 1820. I do not have any information on these brothers at this time. Nancy Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bidwell<mailto:lrbidwell@earthlink.net> To: williams@rootsweb.com<mailto:williams@rootsweb.com> ; WILLIAMS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:WILLIAMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Caleb Williams of Cumberland Co., KY Did Caleb Williams have a son, also named Caleb, born in KY in about 1820? Larry Bidwell -----Original Message----- From: williams-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:williams-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:williams-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JC MCLAUGHLIN Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 12:50 PM To: WILLIAMS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:WILLIAMS-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [WILLIAMS] Caleb Williams of Cumberland Co., KY I am trying to make contact with anyone in the family of Caleb Williams, b. 1796 in VA; d. 1889 in Cumberland Co., KY.; m. Mary Lucy Jones abt. 1816 in VA. They had 10 children 9 of which were born in Cumberland Co., KY. Caleb's father was James (William) Williams. I do not know where he was born but he married a lady named Sarah ? in VA. They had 7 known children all born in VA. I come down through Caleb's son James Frank Williams to his son Hiram Williams to his daughter Bessie Everie Williams Anglin to her daughter Lillian Belle Anglin Webb to myself Nancy Ann Webb McLaughlin. I know quite a lot work has been done on Caleb. I have a couple of books written by Kenneth Williams of KY. I will be greatful for any information available and will share what I have. Nancy Ann Webb McLaughlin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/25/2007 04:13:18
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Caleb Williams of Cumberland Co., KY
    2. Larry Bidwell
    3. Did Caleb Williams have a son, also named Caleb, born in KY in about 1820? Larry Bidwell -----Original Message----- From: williams-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:williams-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JC MCLAUGHLIN Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 12:50 PM To: WILLIAMS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WILLIAMS] Caleb Williams of Cumberland Co., KY I am trying to make contact with anyone in the family of Caleb Williams, b. 1796 in VA; d. 1889 in Cumberland Co., KY.; m. Mary Lucy Jones abt. 1816 in VA. They had 10 children 9 of which were born in Cumberland Co., KY. Caleb's father was James (William) Williams. I do not know where he was born but he married a lady named Sarah ? in VA. They had 7 known children all born in VA. I come down through Caleb's son James Frank Williams to his son Hiram Williams to his daughter Bessie Everie Williams Anglin to her daughter Lillian Belle Anglin Webb to myself Nancy Ann Webb McLaughlin. I know quite a lot work has been done on Caleb. I have a couple of books written by Kenneth Williams of KY. I will be greatful for any information available and will share what I have. Nancy Ann Webb McLaughlin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/25/2007 04:11:30
    1. [WILLIAMS] FREAD WILLIAMS
    2. William Roberts
    3. I am Related to Fread Williams his photo is on familylink.com if you know this picture e-mail me. Thanks, William Roberts mickey928@joimail.com Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.

    06/25/2007 03:52:30
    1. [WILLIAMS] Williams in Jefferson County, Alabama
    2. Someone asked me about this and I said I didn't know anything. It later occurred to me that I do have a couple of tidbits -- they are just not my Williams who are there, but they might be yours. Can you get in touch with me again? Rae Williams _raesunshin@aol.com_ (mailto:raesunshin@aol.com) grannyandpopacaldwell.com ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    06/25/2007 01:39:47
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] WILLIAMS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 136
    2. samuels
    3. Thanks for sending the item. I had lost it and the original is so much better than my memory. It is factual, just depends on the slant of the fact. I have such a case, concerning a murder and retaliation and the manner in which editors reported the facts. One would be inclined to believe it was two different events, except for the names. This same group later has a father who killed his son-in -law but even a good chronicler of the times dismisses it lightly and I have not so far found the legal ramifications. Bud. -----Original Message----- From: williams-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:williams-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of williams-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:05 AM To: williams@rootsweb.com Subject: WILLIAMS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 136 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Williams, Remus (Deloris Williams) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 08:59:56 -0500 From: "Deloris Williams" <delwilliams@insightbb.com> Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams, Remus To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <004101c7b667$f2774d20$0602a8c0@WilliamsComp> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Stories like that one is a prime example of why people should not just rely on family traditions as a basis for their history. Do the research to find out the truth, there may be skeletons in the closet, but at least it would be the truth. Deloris ----- Original Message ----- From: "pj" <pj@ken-tennwireless.com> To: "Lois J Lane" <llane14@juno.com> Cc: <williams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 6:06 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS] Williams, Remus >I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > I don't know about all you folks but I am proud of all my, as I call them, > colorful ancestors.......... > And yes the play with words here is GREAT..........thanks for sending > it............pj > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lois J Lane > To: pj@ken-tennwireless.com ; mjfent@bellsouth.net > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 5:33 PM > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams, Remus > > > Originally sent by : > "Dale" <brendale@sccoast.net> > > > > An amateur genealogical researcher discovered that his great-great uncle, > Remus Williams, a fellow lacking in character, was hanged for horse > stealing > and train robbery in Montana in 1889. The only known photograph of Remus > shows him standing on the gallows. On the back of the picture is this > inscription: > > "Remus Williams; horse thief; sent to Montana Territorial Prison 1885, > escaped 1887; robbed the Montana Flyer six times. Caught by Pinkerton > detectives. Convicted and hanged 1889." > > In a Family History subsequently written by the researcher, Remus's > picture > is cropped so that all that's seen is a head shot. The accompanying > biographical sketch is as follows: > > "Remus Williams was a famous cowboy in the Montana Territory. His > business > empire grew to include acquisition of valuable equestrian assets and > intimate dealings with the Montana railroad. Beginning in 1885, he > devoted > several years of his life to service at a government facility, finally > taking leave to resume his dealings with the railroad. In 1887, he was a > key > player in a vital investigation run by the renowned Pinkerton Detective > Agency. In 1889, Remus passed away during an important civic function > held > in his honor when the platform upon which he was standing collapsed." > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.2/858 - Release Date: 6/21/2007 > 1:46 PM > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/865 - Release Date: 6/24/2007 8:33 AM ------------------------------ To contact the WILLIAMS list administrator, send an email to WILLIAMS-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the WILLIAMS mailing list, send an email to WILLIAMS@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of WILLIAMS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 136 ****************************************

    06/25/2007 09:51:25
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams, Remus
    2. Deloris Williams
    3. Stories like that one is a prime example of why people should not just rely on family traditions as a basis for their history. Do the research to find out the truth, there may be skeletons in the closet, but at least it would be the truth. Deloris ----- Original Message ----- From: "pj" <pj@ken-tennwireless.com> To: "Lois J Lane" <llane14@juno.com> Cc: <williams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 6:06 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS] Williams, Remus >I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > I don't know about all you folks but I am proud of all my, as I call them, > colorful ancestors.......... > And yes the play with words here is GREAT..........thanks for sending > it............pj > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lois J Lane > To: pj@ken-tennwireless.com ; mjfent@bellsouth.net > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 5:33 PM > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams, Remus > > > Originally sent by : > "Dale" <brendale@sccoast.net> > > > > An amateur genealogical researcher discovered that his great-great uncle, > Remus Williams, a fellow lacking in character, was hanged for horse > stealing > and train robbery in Montana in 1889. The only known photograph of Remus > shows him standing on the gallows. On the back of the picture is this > inscription: > > "Remus Williams; horse thief; sent to Montana Territorial Prison 1885, > escaped 1887; robbed the Montana Flyer six times. Caught by Pinkerton > detectives. Convicted and hanged 1889." > > In a Family History subsequently written by the researcher, Remus's > picture > is cropped so that all that's seen is a head shot. The accompanying > biographical sketch is as follows: > > "Remus Williams was a famous cowboy in the Montana Territory. His > business > empire grew to include acquisition of valuable equestrian assets and > intimate dealings with the Montana railroad. Beginning in 1885, he > devoted > several years of his life to service at a government facility, finally > taking leave to resume his dealings with the railroad. In 1887, he was a > key > player in a vital investigation run by the renowned Pinkerton Detective > Agency. In 1889, Remus passed away during an important civic function > held > in his honor when the platform upon which he was standing collapsed." > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.2/858 - Release Date: 6/21/2007 > 1:46 PM > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/865 - Release Date: 6/24/2007 8:33 AM

    06/24/2007 02:59:56
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams migration patterns
    2. Walter F. Williams
    3. Sheryl: Good evening. What are the names and dates and locations in Lincoln Co MO? I don't think we are talking the same, but who knows. I'll br happy to swap files. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHERYL WILLIAMS" <sherwillia60@sbcglobal.net> To: <WILLIAMS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 7:09 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS] Williams migration patterns > Does anyone share this migration pattern? > > The general migration for my Williams line begins in Dorchester Co., MD > 1757> Guilford Co., NC 1781; Rockingham Co., NC> Logan County, KY> Sumner > Co, TN 1804 > Lincoln Co., MO 1821> Gonzales, TX [DeWitt Colony] 1830. > > Not all of this line went to TX but those that did were there by 1830 > when it was still the Republic of Texas. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/23/2007 02:13:17
    1. [WILLIAMS] Williams, Remus
    2. pj
    3. I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't know about all you folks but I am proud of all my, as I call them, colorful ancestors.......... And yes the play with words here is GREAT..........thanks for sending it............pj ----- Original Message ----- From: Lois J Lane To: pj@ken-tennwireless.com ; mjfent@bellsouth.net Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams, Remus Originally sent by : "Dale" <brendale@sccoast.net> An amateur genealogical researcher discovered that his great-great uncle, Remus Williams, a fellow lacking in character, was hanged for horse stealing and train robbery in Montana in 1889. The only known photograph of Remus shows him standing on the gallows. On the back of the picture is this inscription: "Remus Williams; horse thief; sent to Montana Territorial Prison 1885, escaped 1887; robbed the Montana Flyer six times. Caught by Pinkerton detectives. Convicted and hanged 1889." In a Family History subsequently written by the researcher, Remus's picture is cropped so that all that's seen is a head shot. The accompanying biographical sketch is as follows: "Remus Williams was a famous cowboy in the Montana Territory. His business empire grew to include acquisition of valuable equestrian assets and intimate dealings with the Montana railroad. Beginning in 1885, he devoted several years of his life to service at a government facility, finally taking leave to resume his dealings with the railroad. In 1887, he was a key player in a vital investigation run by the renowned Pinkerton Detective Agency. In 1889, Remus passed away during an important civic function held in his honor when the platform upon which he was standing collapsed."

    06/23/2007 12:06:04
    1. Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams, Remus
    2. Jane Foley
    3. I missed it too. Please resend! Jane Foley NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "pj" <pj@ken-tennwireless.com> To: <williams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams, Remus >I must have missed whatever all is talking about.......PLEASE send it again > so I can read it........thanks pj > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Walter F. Williams" <WaltFW@comcast.net> > To: <williams@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 3:13 PM > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams, Remus > > >>I wish I could throw words together that well (of course without >>streaching >> the truth quite that far!!). I broke up when I saw it and sent it to all >> my >> family. >> Walt >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <Pjpeters2@aol.com> >> To: <williams@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 3:12 PM >> Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Williams, Remus >> >> >>> >>> In a message dated 6/23/2007 7:52:26 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>> dotwhite@comcast.net writes: >>> >>> That is a treasure and a fine play with words. It is hilarious. >>> >>> >>> >>> While it certainly is hilarious, I prefer to record things as they >>> really >>> are.....we are never responsible for what our ancestors were or did, & >>> I >>> am >>> sure a lot of us has learned some things we didn't like. But still, >>> genealogy >>> should be truth, as much as we can find, & recorded as such.. >>> >>> Peggy >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************** See what's free at >>> http://www.aol.com. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILLIAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/23/2007 11:29:22