This is very helpful information to know. This information came from a genealogy mailing list. How many of us have failed to read the instructions for searching the census? I know I've been guilty of just assuming what I see was the truth, and subsequently, may have dismissed some census, especially those in the time period previous to 1850, as not being the correct line, because it didn't fit my preconceived notions of the number of people in that family. Of course, people being people, these instructions may not have been totally followed by every > census taker, but it does help to know about this surprising instruction. Here are some details about the mechanics of taking a census that most of us probably haven't paid much attention to. Beginning with the 1790 (first) federal census and continuing with every census thereafter, each enabling law authorized by Congress specified a census day for gathering the census information from every household in America. From 1790 to 1820, the census day was the first Monday in August. The census day was NOT the day the enumerator arrived at a household, it was the day for which all the statistics of the census were collected. The actual instructions given to all the U.S. Marshals right before the 1820 census explains: "....all the questions refer to the day when the enumeration is to commence; the first Monday in August next. Your assistants will thereby understand that they are to insert in their returns all the persons belonging to the family on the first Monday in August, even those who may be deceased at the time when they take the account; and, on the other hand, that they will not include in it, infants born after that day." Similar instructions have been given for every census since 1790, but with different census days. Census day for each census, 1790-1920, and the time allowed to take the census: 1790 2 August 9 months 1800 4 August 9 months 1810 6 August 10 months 1820 7 August 13 months 1830 1 June 12 months 1840 1 June 18 months 1850 1 June 5 months 1860 1 June 5 months 1870 1 June 5 months 1880 1 June 1 month 1890 1 June 1 month 1900 1 June 1 month 1910 15 April 1 month 1920 1 January 1 month Genealogists should record two dates when copying information from the censuses: the census day and the enumeration date. No matter how many months it took for an enumerator to reach a house, he was supposed to gather the information as if time had stopped on the census day. Every person whose regular abode was in a particular household on the census day was to be enumerated, even if a person were away at the time of the enumeration. Understanding the impact of the census day versus the enumeration date may explain why certain people appear in a census listing, even though you have other evidence to show the person died before the household was enumerated. If a person were alive on the census day, that person was to be included - even if it took some time for the enumerator to get around to the house to take the census. The person could have been dead for several months. Or, you may wonder why that youngest child in a family was not listed in a census. If a child were born after the census day, that child was not to be included - even if the census taker had visited the house and was aware of a playful little toddler crawling around in front of him. For example, on the 1880 Census the information was to be as of 1 June 1880. Births before 1 June would be counted; those coming after 1 June would not be counted. People dying before 1 June would not be enumerated but those dying after 1 June would be enumerated. That means if someone died June 2 but the census was not enumerated until 15 September, the person would be enumerated as though he were living.

Asentha Williams marrried Oliver Cromwell Woodcock in New York state about 1797 or before. Family tradition says she was direct line to Roger Williams of Rhode Island. Can anyone out there help me prove this line? Bob Trapp Bob, Do you have any other information to help out, birth and death dates or who her parents were? I don't have her in either of my books, Descendants of Roger Williams the Hart line (Freeborn's line) or the Waterman & Winsor lines (Mercy's line). Another book is due out soon, the Sayles line (Mary's Line). Two more books on the lines of theh two sons that had children, Daniel and Joseph and being written now. Their other son Providence never married or had children. All theses books are published by the Roger Williams Family Association, which has a website at http://www.rogerwilliams.org. A four or five descendants chart was to be put there soon, but the last time I checked it wasn't up yet. But keep checking becuase it shouldn't be much longer. You might send off a note to the registrar and ask if they know anything about her. But give her as much information as possible. Many of Roger Williams descendants left for New York state after the Revolutionary War founding sections of Chenango County among others, as did Greenes, Rhodes, and many other early Rhode Island families. Good luck! And happy hunting! Trish Harmon Rhode Island

Asentha Williams marrried Oliver Cromwell Woodcock in New York state about 1797 or before. Family tradition says she was direct line to Roger Williams of Rhode Island. Can anyone out there help me prove this line? Bob Trapp Fairfield, CA

Does anyone have a Sarah Margaret Williams ( 1836-1877) that married David Wilson Howell in 1851 at Lauderdale County, Alabama ? She died and is buried in Hardin County, Tennessee at Bethel Cemetery. Only known child was William T. (T.E.B.) Howell, born about 1855. Steve Cooper Cloverdale, Alabama E-Mail Address: SCOOPER75@MINDSPRING.COM Snail Mail Address: Steve Cooper 75 Cooper Drive Florence, Alabama 35633

Does anyone have ties to David WILLIAMS, 1st. wife Francis Elizabeth WELDON. Married in Bond Co., Ill., died in Christian Co.or Green Co., Mo Polk township, town Billings. Ab married 1820. was in Mo 1849 ab. My greatgrand parents. Thank you, JoAnne Kaieer

Does anyone know where Mary Lillian Williams fit in? She married a Arthur Cecil Trammell b. 1899 TX. I suspect Mary was from the same Williams family of Mary Alice Williams that married Thomas Williams. That the Willams traveled to TX with the Trammell family and the cousins married the cousins. Mary Alice Williams traces back to Royalty in Eng. If anyone knows my grandmother's tree, Mary Lillian Williams I would greatly appreciate any information. When she passed away she was Mary Lillian Horn in 1978. Thank you, Cheryl Gingerlead@aol.com

Hi My ggrandfather was born in Ky. not sure were. Richard A WILLIAMS. Married Ann Marie CHAMBERS. what williams are you looking for. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Combs" <mechix@localnet.com> To: <WILLIAMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:13 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS] Williams families in Lee Co KY > Hi, > Is there anyone on the list researching Lee Co. KY Williams families ? > > Larry Combs > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/WILLIAMS.htm > >

Hi, I am researching for a Luranna Williams, this is how the census and family records show her name as, I believe it is soundex written. Probably Lucinda or a variation there of . She married John CHAPMAN from Pittsylvania Co, VA. She died early in her live. They ended up in Campbell County, TN. She was born in 1817 and died in 1852 in Campbell County, TN. The only other Williams here in the county was Sampson Williams. He had to be a brother as their ages were consistent of such. He lived a few houses down from all the Chapmans in the area. We have researched out everything we can find in CAmpbell County, TN. We don't have a starting point in Pittsylvania to begin to research there. Anything you can help on. Darryl Chapman LaFollette, Campbell County, TN Hdanw@aol.com wrote: > Dear Diligent Reseachers, > > I would very much like to have some documentary proof of the relationship of > Robert Williams of colonial Pittsylvania Co. (wife Sarah Lanier, widow of > Joseph Williams of Granville Co., NC, Robert's alleged cousin) to his > reported father Nathaniel Williams. > > Many contemporary persons claim descent from Nathaniel Williams, formerly of > Louisa Co., VA (Mychunk Creek and Beaverdam Creek). However, I have yet to > find documentary proof. There is lots of tradition floating around. Have > you had better luck with finding proof? > > This is secondary information: > > >From Zella Armstrong, NOTABLE SOUTHERN FAMILIES, V. II, P. 371. Large parts > are probably inaccurate. > > "Robert Williams, the eldest son of Nathaniel Williams, moved from > Pittsylvania County, Virginia. Robert Williams was Adjutant General of the > State of North Carolina and collected the only copy of the Acts of the > Assembly. [He married Sarah Lanier.] They had seven children and probably > one more. The seven were: (1) Nathaniel Williams (who was Judge of the > Superior Court of Tennessee) (2) Polly Williams (who married Matthew Cay, > member of Congress 1797-1813); (3) Lucy Williams (who married Robert Call); > (4) Patsy Williams (who married James C member of Congress; Mary G. Kerr, who > married her cousin, Nicholas Lanier Williams, and Martha Kerr, who married > Dr. Frank Martin; and (second) Frances Williams (who married Thomas D. > Connally of Tennessee. They had three children, namely, Rev. John Kerr > Connally ....." > > Are there any land records for Robert's alleged father, Nathaniel Williams. > Any will? Who was the wife of Nathaniel Williams? > > E.W.Wallace > a descendant of Nathaniel's brother Daniel Williams of Granville Co., NC (d. > 1759) > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/WILLIAMS.htm

Hi, Is there anyone on the list researching Lee Co. KY Williams families ? Larry Combs

Is there anyone out there who KNOWS or can TELL ME HOW to find information (anything at all) about the WILLIAMS WATCH COMPANY listed in the 1897 Chicago Business Directory. The address seems strange to me but it is---- 13.108, 5th Avenue. I don't know how long it was (or even if it doubtfully still is) in business. TIA Arlene

Joseph Williams m Mary Wamble1823 in warren Co., ga. Childrenwere James,Eliza, Marion, william, Narcissa,Samuel,Mildred.Joseph and Mary moved to Randolph Co., Ga. before1830. Stewart Co. created from Randolph and family was in new co. Joseph died 1841and later Mary mWilliam Melton. Am trying to find panents and siblings of Joseph. Ruby rwfy1948@aol.com

> I haven't posted my WILLIAMS brickwall in sometime now, and it looks like a good > time. I am still looking for the parents and siblings of maternal line > 3Xgreat grandparents. > These people lived in Kershaw County, SC. Nathaniel B. GAY [b. 12 Aug > 1812 - d. 9 Apr 1891], was married to Margaret J. WILLIAMS [b. 30 Jan 1812 - > d. 4 Jul 1890]. This couple had twelve [12] known children. > The only thing at all that I know on the parents of either one of them, is > that Nathaniel's mother's given name was Bethany. I got the exact dates for > their births and deaths from an old family Bible many years ago [no idea as > to what happened to it], but there was no mention of parents and//or > siblings for either. > Hopefully, someone will recognize them and jump in here. > In the for whatever it's worth department, all of my maternal lines are from > the areas of Kershaw and Lancaster Counties, going back into the 1700s. > Bill Hughes > kinseeker4@earthlink.net

I was wondering if anyone knows anything of a ‘ Maria E Williams born 1840 NY, Died March 21,1908 Buried in Oakland Cemetery Yonkers , NY -- married Marvin Richardson Oakley April 18,1960 Yonkers , NY . They adopted a son birth name Ernst Roemer . This is all I have on her. Maggie

UNSUBSCRIBE Betty J Williams 15410 C R 121 Bryceville,Fl. 32009 flyingbranch@cs.com wcl626@aol.com

So far I have found very little new info on Lewellen AKA Lewelling/Lew/Lewellan WILLIAMS outside of Florida records, but I will repost 2 marriages I am curious about. A researcher sent me these: Lewelling WILLIAMS married Elizabeth HAGOOD on Apr 27 1789, in Brunswick County, VA. and Lewelling WILLIAMS married to Margret Burnett in Camden County, GA (early 1800's). Any info on these marriages would be great. thanks, Pat kendrick_@webtv.com (I am researching the Lewellen/Lewelling/Lew/Lewellan WILLIAMS, died 1836 FL, family of "The Territory of Florida" and "Florida". His daughter Nancy b FL, d 1872 FL, married James Pendarvis, his parents??, b?GA d abt 1867/1868, both of Alachua County, FL.)

Hi, Is there anyone on the list that has researched Robert Williams b.Sep 1823 Perry Co KY, the son of Hardy Williams ? He was married to 1. Susannah Eversole and 2. Leaner (sp) Shepard. Thanks, Larry

In searching the archives for the Williams list, I came across a few messages from Roger Smith erdfest@worldnet.att.net, an address which is no longer valid. The messages concern a David Williams of Westchester County who is one of the 3 men who captured the famous spy of the American Revolution, Major John Andre, who was in cahoots with Benedict Arnold. The reason I am so interested in all of this is: My grandfather always told us that we were related to one of the men who captured Major John Andre and that the names of the captors were on a monument in Tarrytown, NY. I was a child when my grandfather died, but now that I'm an adult & into genealogy, this story fascinates me. I investigated this a bit, and have learned the 3 names on the monument, one of which is David Williams. If someone on this list is connected to that particular David Williams, could you please tell me if you have a connection to one of my Westchester County ancestors from that era, whose surnames are: CONKLIN BROWN CRONK TOMPKINS DUSENBURY Thanks much, Sincerely, Donna Vaughn dkvaughn@nycap.rr.com

I found a site called, Parenting.com-The Baby namer-Top names by year. It starts with year 1880, and goes to 2001. It gives different versions of the name you choose. So instead of Elizabeth, she also could have been Eliza, Bette, Elsie, Bessie, Elise, and a few more. It could help find your person you are looking for in Genealogy. I was surprised that Sarah was not included! <A HREF="http://www.parenting.com/parenting/tools/babynamer/article_topnames_by_year.html">Parenting.com - The Baby Namer - Top Names by Year</A>

I am researching the families of Captain David William Wilson Howell. He and wife Sarah Margaret Williams were married in 1851 at Florence, Lauderdale County, Alabama. Captain Howell was born and raised in Lauderdale County, Alabama. He proudly served as a soldier with the CSA and fought at the battle of Shiloh. His wife Sarah died in Hardin County, Tennessee and is buried at the Bethel Cemetery. In 1880 Captain Howell married Sarah Columbia (Palmer) Graham, widow of James A. Graham. Later Captain Howell and wife Sarah Columbia Howell moved back to Florence, Alabama. Both died in Florence and are buried at the Florence City Cemetery. Need any connections to any of these families. Thanks, Steve Cooper Cloverdale, Alabama E-Mail Address: SCOOPER75@MINDSPRING.COM Snail Mail Address: Steve Cooper 75 Cooper Drive Florence, Alabama 35633

There is a Green Williams in 1830 Census-Sumner Co. Tn. #1954 Williams, Green B. Male------31-40 yrs. Male-------6-10 yrs. Male-------0-5 yrs. Female-----51-50 yrs. Female-----21-30 yrs. Don't know if this helps you, but nice to know when and where all the Green Williams are at a given time--Evelyn