SORRY LIST! Must be a senior thing or that I haven't eaten lunch yet? I sent the news I was typing to the wrong list. Please forgive me !!! anita

Noah Noble Piatt was born in Indianapolis, Indiana, Feb. 24, 1828. He married Hanna Phillips in 1855. They had five children: Martha (Mrs. Samuel) Slough: Clara Rees: Mrs. Katherine Thrall: William H; and Johnny, who died as an infant. In 1868, after the death of his first wife, Noah Noble married Olive Bryden in Monticello, Piatt County, Illinois. Roots of the Piatts were deep in Ohio and Illinois, where two "castles" are open today as museums, and Piatt Park is in downtown, Cincinnati. Noah Noble and Olive had three boys; Frank Bryden, 1869-1944; Phil N., 1872-1967; and James, 1874-1967 Olive, Noah Noble, Phil and James came by train to Hamilton, claiming "everything the eye could see." Olive's two brothers, Bob and Jack Bryden, had already come to Kansas and had claimed land near what is now Sallyards. Olive and the two boys stayed with Jack while Noah Noble went back to Illinos to bring their belongings and the five other children, who were still in school. The tree older girls were in a teacher-training program, and all later taught around Hamilton. Growing up on Slate Creek provided happy memories for many people in this atea. Jim had wonderfull tales to tell of early Greenwood County. He remembered Indians; and he recalled walking two miles to borrow a hot charcoal iron to iron shirts. The boys had a house built on skinds and would take it out to stay where the cattle were. Jum said, "We always moved when the house needed cleaning. submitted by Drusilla Esslinger typed by anita...... Does anyone that has been following this article know who Noah Noble Piatt's mother and father were? I think (just a hunch) that my 4th grt grand mother Elizabeth hannah Piatt brn 1828 was related to this family. I have noticed that Ohio also has a Hamilton Co. My Elizabeth was susposed to be born in Canton, hamilton co. Ohio, but she was married in Hamilton co, Indiana also. I am beginning to wonder if these Hamiliton have been mixed up? I know the marriage cert is for sure, but if I recall I got the other info off of a census page. Any ideas? anita

Frank Bryden Piatt married Dora Evalene "Lena" Ott in Hamilton in 1898. They had three children: Robert Bryden, 1898-1966: Phil Delbert, 1901-1932: and Mary Frances, 1904-1928. Frank and Lena lived on the home place. A new house was built nearby for Olive (this is the base of Harmon's present home.) The farm was quite large by that time, and took a lot of people to keep it going. Many people still tell me they worked for the Piatts. Girls would stay there to attend school and work for their keep. Boys stayed in the bunkhouse, worked, and walked across the pasture to the high school. Frank was a large man and always "chewed" a cigar. Lena was also a large woman. She attended the academy at Baker University and she gave music lessons. She was a fantastic cook, and everyone loved her. She was always there when you needed her. Many stories came from this life. As Granddad learned to drive his first car, doors had to be put on both ends of the garage. The boys opened them both up and Granddad would keep driving through until it "whoaed!" I'am not sure he ever really learned to drive because I remember he thought the whole road was his! Once when Grandmother was having a "society" meeting, Daddy and his brother decided it was time to teach sister to swim, even though she was only one year old, had the measles, and it was February. Another time, Daddy came to the house alone. Inquiring about Phil's whereabouts, the others were informed that he was gone. He was stuck in the "quicksand" at the creek. Daddy had tried and failed to get him out, so he had convinced Phil that was it and had left. What must have been a busy, "fun" life turned into tragedy. In 1928, Mary Frances, who was everyone's darling, was an opera singer in Chicago. She contracted pneumonia and died within a week. In 1929, Phil, who had married Ruth Milliken of Eureka, had stopped in at the doctor's office, on a trip to Emporia. It was decided he had appendicitis, He died on the operating table. This was more than Grandmother could take, and she passed away in 1933. As if this wasn't enough, the Depression hit and Grandad lost large amounts of money on cattle. He married Helen Griblin in 1935. He had diabetes and was very ill. He continued to struggle, but finally lost everything. They moved to Hamilton, and he worked for the State Banking Commission as a livestock appraiser during his last years. He passed away in 1944. Helen continued to live in Hamilton until she moved to the Madison nursing home and died in 1985, at the age of 102. She had been a graduate nurse. submitted by Drusill Esslinger typed by anita

Klez: Don't Believe 'From' Line By Michelle Delio 2:00 a.m. April 30, 2002 PDT Some Internet users have recently received an e-mail message from a dead friend. Others have been subscribed to obscure mailing lists. Some have lost their Internet access after being accused of spamming, and still others have received e-mailed pornography from a priest. They're actually experiencing some of the stranger side effects of the Klez computer virus. These ersatz e-mails containing the virus are creating Klez-provoked arguments and accusations that are now spreading as fast as the worm itself. The latest variant of the Klez virus started spreading 10 days ago. The virus e-mails itself from infected machines using a bogus "From" address randomly plucked from all e-mail addresses stored on an infected computer's hard drive or network. Recipients of the virus-laden e-mails, not understanding that the "From" information is virtually always phony -- or even that they have received a virus -- have been clogging networks with angry and confused e-mails that are causing a great deal of cyber-havoc. People signing up for newsletters and mailing lists that they never subscribed to has been a major source of frustration for both users and the list owners. If Klez happens to send an e-mail "from" a user to an e-mail list's automatic subscribe address, the list software assumes the e-mail is a valid subscription request and begins sending mail to the user. A mailing list for fans of the Grammy Award-winning Steely Dan band has posted an explanation directed to those who were subscribed to the list by the virus. "We are not infected with the Klez virus. We don't know if you are infected with the Klez virus. You may be. But even if you are not, someone out there who is infected has both your address and our address on their computer ... and therein lies the problem," the explanation reads, in part. Even when users understand the source of newsletter-generated e-mails, the amount of mail some lists generate is causing problems. "Last week I suddenly started getting hundreds of e-mails, daily, with information about raising tropical fish, purchasing cosmetics and staying in youth hostels," Victor Montez, a sales rep for a publishing firm, said. "I do not keep fish, wear makeup or travel rough." Montez now understands the e-mails came from Klez-subscribed news lists. But he said that since his free e-mail account only stores a certain amount of messages, he's lost access to the account twice this week. He believes he's also lost a significant amount of business-related e-mails. "If this keeps up, I may end up having to stay in hostels and I'll have plenty of free time to devote to raising fish," he said. In some cases, it almost seems as if Klez is specifically targeting particularly vulnerable e-mail addresses onto which it can piggyback. E-mails containing an invitation to view what purports to be an attachment with pornographic images appears at first glance to have been sent out by Catholic parishes in New York and Maryland. The attachment actually contains the Klez virus, and tracing information indicates the e-mails were actually sent from an Internet service located in the United Arab Emirates. "While we would obviously never choose to have our churches' names affiliated with such material, this is a particularly difficult time to have e-mail with obscene references -- which appear to have been sent by church staff -- circulating," an archdiocese spokeswoman said, referring to the worldwide sex abuse scandal. Other newsletter owners are also suffering. Some say their Internet service providers have accused them of spamming non-members. Many ISPs cut service when they receive a certain amount of spam complaints. "I was reported to my ISP over a dozen times this week for spamming," said Keith Carlone, the manager of an e-mail newsletter for classic car enthusiasts. "My ISP threatened to pull my account after the third complaint and we went down shortly afterwards. It took four days to sort the problem out." Andrew Fiber, maintainer of a Jewish folk music mailing list, said that the list has been inundated with messages about widely off-topic subjects, so much so that Fiber wondered if most of his members had suddenly gone "meshuga (a little crazy)." But then Fiber began getting the complaints. "All of a sudden we had e-mails coming in from around the world, with people yelling we had sent them Klez," Fiber said. "The thing is that 'Klezmer' is a type of traditional folk music which we often discuss on the list and sometimes refer to as Klez. So I thought people were protesting about our folk music. It was very confusing for a while." Some users have even reported receiving spooky e-mails from deceased friends. "I belonged to a tattoo artists' list that closed down a few years ago. Last week, I began getting e-mails from the list. Even weirder, I got eight e-mails with subject lines that read 'SOS' and 'Eager to See You' from a list member who died last year. It totally creeped me out," said "Bear" Montego. Klez e-mails' subject lines are randomly chosen from a pre-programmed list of about 120 possibilities, including "Let's be friends," "Japanese lass' sexy pictures," "Meeting Notice," "Hi Honey" and "SOS." Klez also sends fake "returned" or "undeliverable" e-mails, advising the supposed sender that their original, refused e-mail is contained in the attachment. Clicking on the attachment triggers the virus. The virus can launch automatically when users click to preview or read e-mails bearing Klez on systems that have not been patched for a year-old vulnerability in Internet Explorer, Outlook and Outlook Express. Klez only affects PCs running Microsoft's Windows operating system. As of Monday afternoon, Klez's spread seems to have slowed, but antiviral experts warn that the worm will be around for a while. "Anytime you have a virus that is not easily identifiable visually, it tends to linger," Rod Fewster, Australian representative for antiviral application NOD32, said. "SirCam and Klez both vary the subject lines of the e-mails they send, which makes it hard for the average user to spot."

I would like to know what it would cost to be able to sign on to Ancestry.com and to go to any sit you want to. I have paid $59 a year for two years and the few times I have tried to sign on and check on ancestors, I get this, "you are not allowed to access this site". They always want more money. I have not accomplished anything for my $59 a year. I am beginning to think this is just a gimmick to get more money. Is anyone else having the same problem? Lorene Strano

Hi I am a descendant of Andrew Elton Williams and his wife Martha "Patsie" Brett from Jackson County Florida. I am interested in finding a picture of his great-grandson, Andrew Malone Williams. Andrew Malone was my great-grandfather. He was born in 1887 and died in 1938 in Holmes County, Florida. He married Dora Faircloth. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you! Meriah Williams

>A list of over 3,500 LDS Fam Hist Centers around the world can be found at >www.familysearch.org > >The link to the centers is at the lower left. The lists on the web site may be incomplete in that they may not include the smaller FHCs. It is best to call your local Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and ask where the nearest FHC is. Carl.

My Williams Family moved to Texas in 1962 from NM and prior to that from MO and TN. Harold Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gingerlead@aol.com> To: <WILLIAMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 10:20 AM Subject: [WILLIAMS] Re: WILLIAMS-D Digest V02 #83 > I notice that these last two Williams inquiry was from TX, where my > grandmother, Mary Lillian William b. Mar 12, 1901 was born in Luling TX > Caldwell County. > Her parents were John K Williams and Florence Brown. If you have anything to > link them to your Williams or have any details, I would appreciate it very > much. > Cheryl > Gingerlead@aol.com > > ______________________________

Hiriam born 1835 Lunenburg, Vermont died 5/9/1902 Concord, Vermont son of Lee and Olin Williams would like to get this line going again. Etta Parker born 1859 Irasburg, Vermont died 1903 Newbury, Vermont know she was married but unknown to whom or when .

Those who are searching for Williams (or any other) ancestors who were alive in 1880 should seek out a nearby LDS center. Telephone and inquire about the opening days and hours. They generally keep short hours as they are manned/womaned by volunteers. I am sure all LDS centers which have computers must now have the 1880 census on CD-Roms (which you can purchase for yourself for about $50). The staff at LDS will show you how to use these CD-ROMS to TRY to find your ancestor. Some have the census (1880) on the internet, but my particular LDS center is having trouble with its server. You know how it goes! Be aware that your ancestor may have been listed by a name other than the one you are seeking, so use all kinds of tricks to outsmart the computer. Besides, they, the CD-ROMs are transcribed censuses, and the person who was trying to read the handwriting MAY have been unable to read the names. One or two filmed censuses at which I have looked have big blotches of ink where a vital piece of info was recorded--and that is the life of a genealogist--lots of roadblocks. By the 1880s Williams was generally standardized in spelling. So keep looking. I was searching for a man who the family called Benjamin Franklin xxxx [surname left out to protect the innocent]. Well, in one census he is called merely Frank, and in another he is called Ben F. So think of all the ways this man could have labeled himself--or been labeled by the family. A list of over 3,500 LDS Fam Hist Centers around the world can be found at www.familysearch.org The link to the centers is at the lower left. By the way, there are all kinds of forms on that website--I just learned about them in a lecture, and then there plenty of research outlines for every state and most European countries, which generally cost $1.00 plus tax at your LDS center. Be aware, however, that if the printout is multiple pages, it may be cheaper to buy the guide than to print it out. Also, check out the catalog for some of the more uncommon surnames in your families. Don't try Williams, or your computer may lock up!!! Good luck to all you Sherlock Holmeses out there! E.W.Wallace

I notice that these last two Williams inquiry was from TX, where my grandmother, Mary Lillian William b. Mar 12, 1901 was born in Luling TX Caldwell County. Her parents were John K Williams and Florence Brown. If you have anything to link them to your Williams or have any details, I would appreciate it very much. Cheryl Gingerlead@aol.com

? 1st name Williams b m d spouse Elizabeth Bowne b ? where ? d ------------ Bertha Williams b m d spouse William P Bowne b 1878 NJ d ---------------- Lewis Williams b m 1825 NY d spouse Elizabeth Bowne b ? d --------------- Lillian E Williams b m d spouse John C Bowne b 1873 PA d thanks Audrey Bowne Seattle gregbowne@earthlink.net

Does anyone recognize this individual: Clarence Emory Williams, born Lawrence County, MO, March 1888. Reared in Texas. Married Lillian Hillis, 1911, Hunt County, Texas. They had four children: James Robert Williams, Clarence Williams, Eunice Marie Williams and Ida Dee Williams. I have no information on dates of birth, marriage or death of the children. Larry

My gg grandfather was James R. Williams, born 1829 in NC. I have seen an IGI on LDS of a James R. born in Edgecombe Co., also a John Williams born in 1819, I think they are connected. The first documented record of James R. is in Knox Co., TN in the 1860 census, pg. 64, h/h 193. He married a Nancy unknown, when and where unknown. In 1880 census he is in Loudon Co., TN. Do not have a death date or place. Children: Joseph R., abt 1846 Alexander L., 14 Nov 1850, married Malinda Jane Tallent 1870 Henry E., abt 1852 Ishmael S., abt 1856 John M., abt 1858 Sarah, 1860 James, abt 1863 Martha abt 1866 I would appreciate any info on James R. Helen TX

Hello, I am looking for information on the parents of William WILLIAMS, born: abt. 1790 in Maryland, who married Elizabeth ? said to be from Ohio. Looking for her surname. They may have French and/or Indian lineage but that is just speculation based on a family story. They were living in Catahoula Parish, Louisiana prior to 1840 and abt. 1840 in/near Liddieville, Franklin Parish, Louisiana. Sincerely, Bellinda Myrick - Barnett

My grandfather was Leigh Arthur Williams (b. March 2, 1867 Hesper, Winneshiek Iowa). Someone kindly sent me the 1880 census info - and I hope I thanked them! - so I learned that his parents were Horace Brown Williams (b. about 1823 NY) and Caroline Taber (b. about 1836 VT). He had siblings Ada L., Charlie, Matie, Fred, Nellie. There were other Tabers in the same (Iowa) town. I would be interested to find descendants of my grandfather's siblings as well as further info on his parents. He married a Bruce and it has been fun to find 3 third cousins on that branch ..... Thanks in advance. Diane Adair (Williams) McEvilly

Looking for Norma Williams who lived in Pittsburgh in 1920 with an aunt. I believe one of her grandmothers was a Martin. Her father may have been Charles Williams. Carol

Kelly Paul GRAHAM: My husband's line has Weisinger and they were, along with the Parnells and Averytts from Dallas County, AL, as was Reuben Jacob. Reuben's brother also married a WILLIAMS girl (Nancy Caroline). I'd look in that area for her parents. Anne

I have a certificate exactly like that in the name of my daughter, Rachel Kathleen Carlson. The only difference is that hers is signed by Bill Clinton. Ironic. Especially in light of the fact that today marks the 6th anniversary of her death . . . . she was 23. *sigh* Oh, btw -- I live in Portland, Oregon, too (well, a small suburb to be exact, but VERY close). Small world.

Hello all! My mother was Nancy Irene WILLIAMS, b. 1928 in Santa Monica, Los Angeles Co., CA. She died 24 Apr 2000. Nancy was the daughter of I.O. WILLIAMS (that was, to the best of my knowledge, his true first name -- I even asked what it stood for once, and was told "nothing") who married Hazel Amalva WILSON c 1927. I.O. was b. 1903 in Carney, Lincoln Co., Oklahoma, the son of Darius H. and Annie E. [COTTINGHAM] WILLIAMS. He died in May 1962 in Portland, Multnomah Co., Oregon. Darius was born in 1856, somewhere in Illinois, the son of George & Matilda [unknown] WILLIAMS (Geo. b. in NY; Matilda b. in Canada). George & Matilda lived in Clinton Twp., DeKalb Co., Illinois in 1860. I.O. WILLIAMS was the youngest of several known siblings, namely: Arthur Deloise WILLIAMS, b. 1881 Buel H. WILLIAMS, b. 1886 Robert Harrison WILLIAMS, b. 1888 Neoma Frances WILLIAMS, b. 1894 Darius A. WILLIAMS, b. 1900 Arlo Frederick WILLIAMS, b. 1901 I.O. 'Ace' WILLIAMS, b. 1903 All were born in Oklahoma. Because there was no census enumeration of the Oklahoma Territory until 1890 (and we all know what happened to THOSE records), I have been at an absolute loss finding any record of this family. I knew some of these people, so it is extremely frustrating not to have access to some sort of hard evidence of their family structure & relationships. I do know that the entire family relocated from Oklahoma to southern California circa 1906 (based on info gleaned from the death certificates of Darius and Annie WILLIAMS), but have been unable to locate their whereabouts in that state in either 1910 or 1920. Darius H. WILLIAMS died in 1931, in Venice, Los Angeles Co., California, but L.A. County was the proverbial "haystack", even in 1910. And Darius & family are a mighty small "needle" :( I am anxious to locate any descendants of this family group, or anyone with knowledge of them. I am also anxious to learn more about Darius' parents, any siblings and other ancestors. Hopefully, someone will recognize a name or two, and be able to jump in and rescue me :-) Can anyone "out there" help me? Thank you in advance! Clarissa Stuart