Hi List, I need a little help, I have a Nancy Williams who m George M. Townsend, poss. in Robertson Co. Tn., her father said to be John Williams, brother to Robert Williams. according to John's will, probated 1827, he had children Eliza, Nancy and Jessie, Thomas, Polly, and Elbert., after the death of George Townsend, Nancy Williams Townsend moved to St. Francois Co. Mo. to be near her daughter Elizabeth, who had m George W. Sebastian,, and near her aunt. the wife of Britain Bridger. My St. Francois Co. Williams were from Dekalb Co. Tn., William Carroll Williams, son of David Williams/Elizabeth VanHooser.son, Willian Carroll m Elizabeth Bennett, their daug Francis Jane Williams m George Whitley Sebastian in 1874. I belive these Williams-Townsend-Sebastian families may be connected, would appreciate any help, clue, or advice. David Williams is my".brick wall" Thanks Evelyn

Dear List, I am seeking information on two men in Coles County, IL in 1850 and how, if at all, they may tie together. These two men are enumerated side by side and I am suspicious that they are father and son. First - Elijah Williams, married to Hannah, came to Coles County from Lewis County, KY. They are found in the 1850 census as follows: Elijah, age 63, born KY Hannah, age 61, born PA Charles W., age 25, born KY (W for Washington) Louisa, age 23, born IL Louisa married William R. Barrick on 13 Feb 1853 in Coles Co., IL Charles married Malinda Maddox on 15 Aug 1855 in Coles County. Second - John Williams, married to Rebecca Atkinson. They are found in the 1850 census as follows: John, age 36, born KY Rebecca, age 43, born VA Hannah, age 13, born IL Francis, age 12, born IL Catherine, age 10, born IL Sarah, age 3, born IL John will join the 125th IL Volunteer Infantry during the Civil War and will die of pneumonia at the age of 48. Sarah will marry James A. Richman, a prominent citizen in the county. Please look over your Williams family groups to see if you have may further information about these men and how they are related. Thanks, Kent Elam

The National Archives & Records Admin. has regional research facilities throughout the USA. Most of the records are on microfilm (Revolutionary War Pension applications, census records, ships lists, etc. etc.) and everything's always there - eliminates the ordering and subsequent waiting for films to come in. Go to www.nara.gov, click on "Where is/How do I" and then click on "Locations/Hrs." (Alaska, California, Colorado, DC, Georgia, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Missouri, New Mexico, New York, Oklahoma, PA, Texas, Washington state, and Wyoming.) Additionally, there are other NARA records facilities throughout the country. Also, don't forget to check out your own State Archives. Many state archives have records from other states and regions. Happy Holidays!

Hello list, I am looking for any marriages of Williams and Dickerson before 1870 in Indiana, Ohio or Illinois (I am trying to match up a very vague clue to ancestry). Also, if anyone has in their line a Susan ? who married Joseph Williams around 1854, and had a son-in-law named Miller, please contact me. Thank you. Rosie

To E. W. Wallace, et alia: I know what you mean about Rootsweb. I think the idea is they will not let you send an attachment or send an Internet page on Rootsweb. Therefore, you have to convert the message to a text document and copy it into the message, using Notepad or Wordpad, etc. I believe this is to avoid viruses, spams, etc. It is an inconvenience, but Rootsweb messages are very reliable as far as not receiving unwanted items in your e-mail. I have started using a program called, "MailWasher," which prescreens e-mail, and that has helped me tremendously in bouncing spam and viruses. Joe Max Williams -- http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/i/l/Joe-M-Williams/index.html Listowner: TN-SOUTHCENTRAL

Seeking "ANY" information on LEVI WILLIAMS Marcia I've always lived for and by the special, not the ordinary * \./ )*( ) * ( ) .*. ( ~~~ y y _________ .<\___ .<\___ \_____/ / \ /\ / \ / \ /\/\/\/\/\/\ If it were against the law to be a Christian could the authorities gather enough evidence to convict us? Think about it! Video games will break, pearl necklaces will be lost, golf clubs will rust...But giving the gift of love will endure.

These numbers are the items of property that he owned, and had to pay tax on. > This is one person I know about. His name appears on the B list of taxes: > > Williams, Robert Col. 1-22-1-19-2 cher > > What do these numbers mean? > > 1 - no of males above 16 > 22 - no of blacks above 16 > 1 - no of blacks under 16 > 19 - no of horses, mares, colts and mules > 2 chers [chairs] - no of carriages, wheels >

Dear Listers, I have sent the following message to the Gentry rootsweb list, but this info is applicable to any search you are conducting for a Rev War ancestor. Pass the info along to your friends. Dear Gentry searchers, After much mucking around on the Family History Library Catalog (FHLC) at <A HREF="www.familysearch.org"> www.familysearch.org</A>, I found the *probable* film number for the Rev War pension record for Meshack Gentry. (Do you think it is cataloged under Revolutionary War pensions? Wrong!) I say *probable* film number because Gentry's name, if he did get a pension, falls between the surnames of Geesler (John) and Geohegan (Anthony). The film number you want for Gentry is *probably* 971061. It will cost you in the neighborhood of about $3.00 plus some probable shipping charges, etc. to borrow the film from Salt Lake City for about three weeks through your LDS center--and a few public libraries which have agreements with Salt Lake City. It takes weeks for some of these films to get to your LDS center, but the wait is probably cheaper than ordering a costly pension record from NARA (National Archives). You may still want to order the record from NARA, but do a preview first. Be mindful that there are nearly 3,000 reels of film pertaining to the Rev War pension records of servicemen and their widows, an act passed by Congress ca 1832. There were other pension acts, but I assume the pension you are referring to for Gentry is under the act of 1832. Now--if you are near an LDS center, telephone and found out the days and hours of opening. Call the church on a Sunday, when someone is probably around to answer the phone, if you don't get an answer on a weekday. If it is a widow's pension, there is LOTS of genealogical information in the pension record. And you will want to acquire the pension in that case. If you want to view the online FHL catalog for these pension records, use this topic: United States, Veterans Administration And be patient--the list is long for nearly 3,000 reels of film. (Don't print out the list, unless you have a ream of paper.) For those of you near large libraries, city or county or State or University, try to find an online catalog for any or all those libraries, and call up the author Virgil D. White. Mr. White loves to compile indexes of all kinds of US military pensions, and if you see his books on shelves at your library, you certainly want to take a look. I had a missing German ancestor, whom, rumor had it, was in the US Army and floated around the country, apparently abandoning wife and four children. I picked up one of Virgil D. White's indexes of Old War pension claims, and found two men by that surname. At that time, the photocopies from NARA were less expensive, and I ordered both of the pensions. Lo, and behold, one of them was my missing ancestor, who had joined the US Army ca 1852 in New Orleans (Army register on film). And the pension file was full of information--divorce from first wife, death certificate for first wife, affidavit of second husband of first wife, etc. A gold mine!!! (I sent the other pension record to a State genealogical society, and they were happy to add it to their Archives--probably in a vertical file as loose papers seem to be called by Librarians.) But, there are NO guarantees in genealogy. You may not be so lucky! Happy hunting! E.W.Wallace interested in the Gentrys and Harrises of Albemarle Co., VA & Madison Co., KY

I am trying to locate Val A. Williams as is the newspaper who hopes to get a picture of him and see how he is doing after he so generously offered my son Tommy Erb a kidney in hopes of saving his life. I was so busy at the time and years later that I haven't tried to find him to let him know how much I appreciated it. This was 39 years ago but the Newspaper in MO is running a series of articles on Kidney Donors. They called and ask me how he is doing as my older son had ask the day before. Would really like to get in touch with him to let him know he is appreciated. I told him at the time but life gets hectic and I never tried to locate him. If anyone on this list knows how to contact him, I would appreciate it or he can contact me at dewing@socket.net Wish you all a wonderful Holiday and the best New Year ever and h ope I am not out of line in sending this to the list. God Bless you all, Barbara Dewing

Hi, I have the 1910 Bell County, Kentucky census, and this is what it says. Can someone tell me if they know anything about this Williams family with whom my Rice family was living? And if they know where they were born if it doesn't say a state? Also does anyone know anything about the Simpson's listed in the household too? ED 17 HH 237 Williams, James T. 52 Sallie W 33 Dee S 13 Mattie J. D 8 Ollie C. D 5 Harmon H. S 4 Simpson, Elijah NE 17 Lillie M. NI 7 Rice, Joseph H 36 (Nancy) Ermine W 23 (her age is wrong but it is her) Bessie D 4 Thelma D 18 months Thank you, Charlotte Miller

My apologies to the list. I subscribe to the Ancestry newsletter (free, as far as I know--at least I have not been billed). Practically each newsletter has a very instructive article generally by a certified genealogical researcher, most of whom are published authors. The latest Ancestry newletter had a good article concerning how to collect data on various ancestors, and it seemed particularly appropriate for those of who search for ancestors named John Williams, for example--or any other hard-to-identify ancestor. My ancestor John Williams had four sons--each had a son named John. Do you see how fast John Williams multiplies??? Generally, one can send this newsletter article to a friend (e-mail to a friend). However, because rootsweb is now under the wing of Ancestry.com (did you know that?), perhaps there is a computer technique of which I as a neophyte was unaware, and what I tried to e-mail to a friend (the Williams list) comes across as "spam." My apologies--I was totally ignorant. I shall not repeat this exercise. So all of us will continue collecting John Williamses (or whatever Williams) and assuming he/they are the same person, even though, if we did the arithmetic, he would be 120 years old!!!! And living in four different States, not to mention counties! Oh, well, live and learn. E.W.Wallace

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What were the children's names and the birth dates?

The 1789 tax lists are wonderful indeed! A little slow to load with a dial-up modem because each page is no doubt a large jpeg file but worth the wait. These lists and a number of other documents pursuant to Pittsylvania County & southside VA can also be viewed at Gayle Austin's RootsWeb site - definitely worth checking out if you haven't been there before: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapittsy/ As to the identity of some of the Williams folks on those tax lists (list B) - well, they are my 3rd great grandfather (James Mastin Williams) and several of his brothers. They were sons of William & Lucy Terry Williams of Pittsylvania County VA, both deceased by 1788: Page 48.jpg #9 James Mastin Williams and Thomas Terry Williams #10 Lewis Williams #15 David C. Williams Page 47.jpg, #1 John Williams - this is likely also another of the sons of William & Lucy Terry Williams. Page 50.jpg, above #28 is Joseph Terry Williams. This is the brother who migrated to Wilson & Sumner Counties, Tennessee by 1798 and stayed there for nearly 20 years before finally settling in Jackson Co. Illinois according to his Rev. War pension application. Happy Searching - and Happy Holidays to All! ~Jane

Seeking parentage of LEVI WILLIAMS This is all I have on him. Any help appreciated. Levi WILLIAMS, self, age 79, b. ca 1801 in VA, both parents b. in CT, occupation: retired farmer Catherine WILLIAMS, wife, age 64, b. ca 1816 in OH, both parents b. in MD Rebeca DATSPM (obviously a corruption of DOTSON), step-dau, age 39, b. ca. 1841 in OH, father b. in MD, mother b. in OH

Nancy Williams b abt 1832 TN m'd Jeremiah Early Kilmer before 1853 in ARK. I think. I do know their children but do not know her parents Janet Aricu

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I have been searching for the family of James Williams b- October 8, 1813, and died June 22, 1850, in West Wheeling, Belmont County, Ohio. He married on May 23.1835 to a Catherine Thomas in Belmont, Ohio. There first born was named George - b- May 26, 1836, so I am thinking possibly James's father was named George. I would be ever so grateful for any help or suggestions!!!!!! - Lynn in California There other children in order: George b- 1836 d - 1860 Jane b- 1837 d - 1900 married name Hornage Catherine b - 1840 d - 1920 married name Hartshorn Harrison b - 1842 d - 1868 Mary and Martha (twins) b- 1844 died in infancy Anna b - 1846 d - 1934 married name Oswald Mary Agnes b - 1848 d - 1931 married name Wise Susan Elizabeth b- 1850 d - 1932 married name Lallance All children were born in West Wheeling, Ohio

Hello All, This message, forwarded a couple of times, came across my radar screen...Surely of interest to some (all hopefully at some point!) here: Janet (Baugh) Hunter (two Williams and counting) > From: "Scottie (Sue S)" <rubbish@clara.co.uk> > To: <CORNISH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:53 PM > Subject: [CON] New Williams surname list > > > > With Sharon's permission, this is to let you all know that I have started > a > > new rootsweb surname list. > > WILLIAMS-UK-L-request@rootsweb.com > > This is because the existing WILLIAMS list contains mainly US WILLIAMS > > researchers & as such > > doesn't attract many listers with UK interests. My own interests lie in > > Manchester & Devon/Cornwall. So if you have any UK WILLIAMS surname > > interests, or know someone who has, we could provide another useful > research > > source. There are about 18 subscribers so far & will be linked to the > > Rootsweb list of surname lists & Cyndis List in the next few weeks. > > Please post any queries about this list to me NOT to the Cornish list. My > > list in no way attempts to detract from this one, it is purely for > Williams > > UK surname interests only. > > > > regards > > Scottie (Sue S) > > > > HOWLETT List & Message Board admin > > HULTON Message Board admin > > WILLIAMS-UK List admin > > > >

Dear Researchers of Early Virginia Williams Families, Although Frederick A. Virkus's compilation called The Compendium of American Genealogy is largely discredited by serious genealogists, still, one who is stumped about early Williams ancestor with the same first names for generations might give it a once-over, particularly if your Williamses were early in the US or in the southern colonies. These old Virkus volumes are found in many older public libraries in the reference section--along with the Who's Who volumes. If you don't find this compilation (many volumes) in your public library, ask your public librarian to do a computer or telephone search of nearby libraries and see where you can find it. Take a photocopy of appropriate Virkus pages at your library and go home and study and study and see if it makes sense, date-wise, and genealogy-wise. The dates in Virkus may be more appropriate than the ones you may have estimated for your colonial ancestors--at least, I find that so in the case of the Williams families I am studying--and trying to make sense of!!! For example, I recently was having a discussion (argument?) with a webpage master about her entries for one Nathaniel Williams, stating that she had combined two Nathaniel Williamses--father and son. I could not convince her that her submissions were incorrect. Her retort was that she did not have time to research in libraries, etc. I guess there is the need to see one's handiwork on the internet, imperfect as it is. Digging through my multitude of photocopies in my clutter room, I recently relocated some pages from Virkus, Vol. V, pages 689-690, the genealogy of one Owen, Thomas McAdory, Jr. (10 Apr 1894). He had Williams ancestors from colonial Virginia, along the James River. Among Owen's ancestors were two Nathaniel Williamses and their progenitor, one John Williams. His entry mentions some wives's maiden names and other offspring of these Williamses. (Don't get excited--these folks were from the South! The asterisks are to my added notes at the bottom.) To quote from page 689: 8 - John Williams (b. 1679) from Wales to Hanover Co., VA, ca 1738* 7 - Nathaniel (b. 1712) of Hanover and Bedford Cos., VA** 6 - Nathaniel (1741-1805) del. [delegate] Provincial Congress of NC, 1775; m. 1765 Mary Ann Williamson (b. 1745); their son Robert, was gov. of Miss. Ty [Mississippi Territory], 1805-09 5 - Judge Marmaduke (1774-1850), mem. NC Senate, 1803; mem. Congress, 1803-09; removed to Miss. Ty. ca. 1810; mem. Ala. Constl. Conv. 1819; judge Tuscaloosa Co. Cts.; mem. Ala. Legislature, 1821-40; m. Agnes (Payne) Harris (1775-1850; Robert Payne [6]; Josiah [7] [his son, John , was father of Dolly, who m. Pres. Madison]; George [8]; William [9]) *** Use these with caution, but those of us with common surnames, such as Williams, Harris, et al, need all the clues we can find. If certain persons in Virkus, as in the case of Judge Marmaduke Williams and his predecessors served in a prominent public office, there may be additional or augmenting information in the online Political Graveyard. Use <A HREF="www.google.com"> www.google.com</A> to find Political Graveyard. Then try to check more original sources than Virkus, who took the word of the submitter that the information was more or less correct. Folks, some of these genealogies are made-up, as frequently applicants to lineage societies are now finding out!!!! * The few remaining court records of Hanover Co., VA for this period verify that a John Williams (probably the father whom people claim came from Wales, a guesstimate at best), and probable sons: a Joseph Williams, a Nathaniel Williams, and a Daniel Williams with his wife Ursley who were residing in that county and at least witnessing documents. John Williams, the apparent father, died intestate (administration bond filed 5 June 1735). Source for info: Rosalie Edith Davis, Hanover County, Virginia Court Records 1733-1735: Deeds, Wills and Inventories [Manchester, MO], 1979, p. 64. Also refer to ca 1730 land patents, two of them, for John Williams in Hanover Co. as abstracted and indexed in Nugent's Cavaliers and Pioneers, I believe, Vol. 3. This John Williams is frequently confused with his son of the same name, who lived in the 1730s in Goochland Co. near Tuckahoe Creek and later migrated to Granville Co., NC. ** My research of Bedford Co. to date has failed to show this Nathaniel Williams. Has anyone located him? He is my elusive collateral!!! When last seen, his land was located in Louisa Co. on or near Mychunk or Mechunk Creek; Louisa had been formed from Hanover Co. ca 1742. As indicated, some, if not all, his sons went to North Carolina--the area of Surry Co. and Rockingham Co. *** The information in brackets pertains to the lineage of Agnes Payne Harris, widow of Robert Harris, who was son of Tyree Harris of Caswell Co., NC, formerly of Orange Co., NC, Louisa Co., VA, perhaps Albemarle Co., VA. For more information on Marmaduke Williams (not to be confused with another man called Duke Williams in Caswell Co.), refer to Who Was Who in America, Historical Volume 1607-1896 [Chicago, IL: Marquis Who's Who, 1967], p. 656) Also BIOGRAPHICAL DICTIONARY OF U. S. CONGRESS, p. 2059 I hope this information helps you in your continuing research of your early Virginia Williams families, clustered around the James River and later in Southside Virginia, and then spreading to North Carolina and areas south, north to Kentucky, and on west!!! Virkus is no better and no worse than some of the stuff on the internet, and in most cases, is probably more reliable, as somebody must have proofread that work before publication. E.W.Wallace