Tina, have you checked in the following book: DEEP ROOTS AND STRONG BRANCHES by Clara V.O'Brien. A Chronicle of the Descendants of Samuel and Pilgrim Williams Including Many of the Families with Which Their Descendants Merged. The Woffords, Newmans, Hatchers, barbers, Maleys, Schultzes and many others, including mine, Jones, Hixson, Bartlett, Bell, Foster, Klingenschmidt. Published/(C) 1971 by the author. I don't know if it has been re-published or re-printed. I got mine when my mother died a couple of years ago. Page 128 has Harold Norman, David Norman, Pamela Norman. These are a father, daughter and son. They could be living today. If you think these would be of help, let me know and I will email them privately. These WILLIAMS are from the North Carolina bunch that began with : Samuel Williams Family Pilgrim Williams Family Philander Williams Joel Williams Mary Williams Henry Williams I don't remember if Samuel and Pilgrim were brothers or not. Henderson Williams, son of Mary and Henry Williams was my great or great great grandfather married to Emily Wofford. Henderson ended up in Beeville, TX. Anyway, if you don't have the book and those names strike a cord with you let me know. MaryAnn Bartlett, just hanging out on my branch ----- Original Message ----- From: "SUSETTE SWYERS" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 11:00 AM Subject: Re: FW: [WILLIAMS] Fake Family Genealogy | W. McCollum | Do you have the family name Norman in your Williams line? The name Pleasant is in | my Norman line. Also I have a Thomas (John) Pleasant Williams. Pleasant Norman and Lucy | Norman, parents of my great great grandmother Sarah Jane Norman Williams. | Just checking. | Tina Williams Swyers | |

And then some are able to keep the same e-mail address for a long, long time. Or telephone number, into the 2nd generation. Early on as a newly married couple, our address changed three times before we even moved. In the "olden days" in small communities, you got your mail whether it had the correct address for you or not. More population, more hard to find people, and more lost people. Kay Chestnut ----- Original Message ----- From: "thehornguy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 2:12 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS] Changes of e-mail addresses!! > > > Hello, all. > > First, I must say that I have not ever up-loaded any family tree info to > any of the data-bases. Second, I have not ever down-loaded any, either! > > But, over the last six years, I HAVE had to change e-mail addresses, > several times. > My first ISP went broke, and the whole list of customers was bought up by > an internet 'alligator' who tried to go up on the rate, and many of the > customers, including me, had to go to new ISP contacts!! > Then, after a good while at the last one, we moved our residence > location, > and the eletrical system in the new place was faulty, and the access to > the > internet was not possible. > > So, we went to DSL, and that involved another change. Now, DSL is not > easy to afford, so we probably will go back to some variety of a dial-up > ISP > contact, and that, when it occurs, will cause the sixth new address in six > years. > > Who can say when such a similar series of events has or will affect the > present address for any of us?? That is to include the 'sources' for > some > of the material you can now down-load from those data-bases, and which, in > some cses, may be correct (or not) and which, in most cases, may not be > 'authenticated' by the original submitter!! > > My sympathy goes to all who have 'enjoyed' the sort of changes we have, > and to all those whose economics dictate the changes we now face, on the > DSL > question. > > DSL is a nice service, because it allows the use of one telephone line, > while being on line, at the same time. But the cost is really very > high, > in terms of the comparative costs, based on the use of two lines for > dial-up > service. > The budget for DSL is about the same as the old two-line service for > dial-up, so it is not cost-effectively competitive. > > Just a little history on my account, to give you some possible reasons > for > the lack of continuity for some e-mail addresses!! > > Good fortune to all!! Joe DUKE > > The results are that > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 3:17 PM > Subject: WILLIAMS-D Digest V05 #197 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hello, all. First, I must say that I have not ever up-loaded any family tree info to any of the data-bases. Second, I have not ever down-loaded any, either! But, over the last six years, I HAVE had to change e-mail addresses, several times. My first ISP went broke, and the whole list of customers was bought up by an internet 'alligator' who tried to go up on the rate, and many of the customers, including me, had to go to new ISP contacts!! Then, after a good while at the last one, we moved our residence location, and the eletrical system in the new place was faulty, and the access to the internet was not possible. So, we went to DSL, and that involved another change. Now, DSL is not easy to afford, so we probably will go back to some variety of a dial-up ISP contact, and that, when it occurs, will cause the sixth new address in six years. Who can say when such a similar series of events has or will affect the present address for any of us?? That is to include the 'sources' for some of the material you can now down-load from those data-bases, and which, in some cses, may be correct (or not) and which, in most cases, may not be 'authenticated' by the original submitter!! My sympathy goes to all who have 'enjoyed' the sort of changes we have, and to all those whose economics dictate the changes we now face, on the DSL question. DSL is a nice service, because it allows the use of one telephone line, while being on line, at the same time. But the cost is really very high, in terms of the comparative costs, based on the use of two lines for dial-up service. The budget for DSL is about the same as the old two-line service for dial-up, so it is not cost-effectively competitive. Just a little history on my account, to give you some possible reasons for the lack of continuity for some e-mail addresses!! Good fortune to all!! Joe DUKE The results are that ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 3:17 PM Subject: WILLIAMS-D Digest V05 #197 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----

I have to throw my 2-cents into this... When I began working on my own genealogy umpteen years ago, one of the biggest things that was pounded into my head by a seasoned researcher, was prove, prove, prove. This conditioning has stuck with me over the years and today, even when I find things on the internet, I treat them as "clues", make note of them and research them to find sources of proof/disproof. Like others, I have also found my work posted out there, although I haven't posted my research online. It is my pesonal opinion that the internet has been both a boon and a burden. As more records get digitized, our research resources get more bountiful and much, much easier to obtain. Many of us, when finding information online, still have that "prove, prove, prove" thought running through our head. However, I think there is a dual challenge we face...in the last few years (along with the growth of the internet) the has been an explosion of interest in genealogy. So many new researchers haven't been conditioned with the "old school" way of thinking and I tend to find that quite often (although not all the time) these new researchers find information on the net and call it good...then share their information online and it propogates like mad. This makes the number of "clues" available increase exponentially, giving us a lot more information to sort and prove. Which makes our research hard enough. Then to have a company, whose software is built to quite simply get around the checks that search engines have put in place to block nefarious content, make our chosen passion even more difficult by introducing a billion or so new names, which are fictitious, into the mix. I read the information on this company's website and they see to believe that there is so much information already wrong out there that what they are doing is ok...all for the sake of sneaking advertisments around the search engine filters. I am all for making money, but not at the expense of others. In the end, is there really anything we can do about it? I doubt it. We aren't going to shut down the creeps running this company and we aren't going to be able to stop them pushing their software out there. What we can do is blend the old ways with the new...in other words, continue to preach and teach the "prove, prove, prove" sentiment out there. Take everything you find on the net with a grain of salt and by God, if you haven't proven the information you are about to post, then don't post it. Basically, it is up to us. Adrian Adrian Williams Williams DNA Project Administrator http://williams.genealogy.fm/ [email protected] [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Nov 11, 2005 2:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Fake Family Genealogy We must all remember that LDS merely posts the information that individuals send them. So does Ancestry and Genealogy. It would be an almost impossible task for them to verify it. I have shared my information with others researching the same family. I have never posted my information with any of these services, but I have found data that I provided to someone else posted. Sometimes, that data is later found to be in error. I have found the data posted by others to be a tool to give some general information (dates, places, names). You should always take this info with "a grain of salt." Try to verify it for yourself and use it as a springboard for finding new clues. Larry -----Original Message----- From: Dorothy C. White <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:31:15 -0500 Subject: FW: [WILLIAMS] Fake Family Genealogy LDS is dangerous. They list anything people put on there without checking for correctness (that would be pretty well impossible, wouldn't it?) so it is a place to start but everything has to be checked out carefully. You can find most anything on LDS. They do have excellent resources for checking, however, if you just know to go to that. The local Mormon library attendants are so very helpful. Dorothy C. White [email protected] 804.795.4296 > -----Original Message----- > From: Nathan [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 7:27 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Fake Family Genealogy > > > What about www.familysearch.com ? > Some of the stuff on there is plain wrong, and has set me back ages. > > Nathan > [email protected] > > > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Few, if any of us, have completely accurate and fully documented family trees. That's what message boards and mailing lists are about. We share what we think we know. That's why it's so important to include sources when we make assertions in our postings and discussions. LDS, through their web site and their Family History Centers, provides easy access to "pre-digested" genealogy research, as well as to original sources on microfilm. Ancestry.com and other such sites offer easy access, but you have to be wary of their indexing and creative with your search strategies. Even original sources can contain erroneous information or can be misinterpreted by the reader. The best we can do is to continue to share information and sources and document and share our doubts, as well as our certainties. W. McCollum (Descendant of Pleasant Williams and Elizabeth Streetman of early 19th century Georgia) -------------- Original message -------------- > LDS is dangerous. They list anything people put on there without checking > for correctness (that would be pretty well impossible, wouldn't it?) so it > is a place to start but everything has to be checked out carefully. You can > find most anything on LDS. They do have excellent resources for checking, > however, if you just know to go to that. The local Mormon library > attendants are so very helpful. > > Dorothy C. White > [email protected] > 804.795.4296 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nathan [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 7:27 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Fake Family Genealogy > > > > > > What about www.familysearch.com ? > > Some of the stuff on there is plain wrong, and has set me back ages. > > > > Nathan > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn > > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Some people who see a specific name posted in a GEDCOM file on one of these sites, feel that it is true. Someone recently contacted me about one of my great-grandfathers. He said he was also descended from him. Since I have extensive information on this ancestor, I did not recognize his name or how he might fit into the family. When we compared notes, it was merely a case of "same name" and close year of birth. I had documentation on this acestor and had traced him from birth to death, including all census records in which he appeared. The person who inquired lost "him" at some point in time and merely assumed that "mine" was the same guy. It was disappointing for the person who thought he knew about the ancestor, only to have it all disproven. Larry

We must all remember that LDS merely posts the information that individuals send them. So does Ancestry and Genealogy. It would be an almost impossible task for them to verify it. I have shared my information with others researching the same family. I have never posted my information with any of these services, but I have found data that I provided to someone else posted. Sometimes, that data is later found to be in error. I have found the data posted by others to be a tool to give some general information (dates, places, names). You should always take this info with "a grain of salt." Try to verify it for yourself and use it as a springboard for finding new clues. Larry -----Original Message----- From: Dorothy C. White <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:31:15 -0500 Subject: FW: [WILLIAMS] Fake Family Genealogy LDS is dangerous. They list anything people put on there without checking for correctness (that would be pretty well impossible, wouldn't it?) so it is a place to start but everything has to be checked out carefully. You can find most anything on LDS. They do have excellent resources for checking, however, if you just know to go to that. The local Mormon library attendants are so very helpful. Dorothy C. White [email protected] 804.795.4296 > -----Original Message----- > From: Nathan [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 7:27 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Fake Family Genealogy > > > What about www.familysearch.com ? > Some of the stuff on there is plain wrong, and has set me back ages. > > Nathan > [email protected] > > > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Sorry, I don't have Norman appearing as either a surname or a given name in my Williams line. My Pleasant C. Williams was born about 1805 in Georgia, lived mostly in Madison County, and died in January 1850 in Clarke County, Georgia. W. McCollum ----- Original Message ----- From: "SUSETTE SWYERS" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: Re: FW: [WILLIAMS] Fake Family Genealogy > W. McCollum > Do you have the family name Norman in your Williams line? The name > Pleasant is in > my Norman line. Also I have a Thomas (John) Pleasant Williams. Pleasant > Norman and Lucy > Norman, parents of my great great grandmother Sarah Jane Norman Williams. > Just checking. > Tina Williams Swyers > > [email protected] wrote: > Few, if any of us, have completely accurate and fully documented family > trees. That's what message boards and mailing lists are about. We share > what we think we know. That's why it's so important to include sources > when we make assertions in our postings and discussions. > LDS, through their web site and their Family History Centers, provides > easy access to "pre-digested" genealogy research, as well as to original > sources on microfilm. Ancestry.com and other such sites offer easy access, > but you have to be wary of their indexing and creative with your search > strategies. Even original sources can contain erroneous information or can > be misinterpreted by the reader. > The best we can do is to continue to share information and sources and > document and share our doubts, as well as our certainties. > W. McCollum > (Descendant of Pleasant Williams and Elizabeth Streetman of early 19th > century Georgia) > > -------------- Original message -------------- > >> LDS is dangerous. They list anything people put on there without checking >> for correctness (that would be pretty well impossible, wouldn't it?) so >> it >> is a place to start but everything has to be checked out carefully. You >> can >> find most anything on LDS. They do have excellent resources for checking, >> however, if you just know to go to that. The local Mormon library >> attendants are so very helpful. >> >> Dorothy C. White >> [email protected] >> 804.795.4296 >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Nathan [mailto:[email protected]] >> > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 7:27 AM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Fake Family Genealogy >> > >> > >> > What about www.familysearch.com ? >> > Some of the stuff on there is plain wrong, and has set me back ages. >> > >> > Nathan >> > [email protected] >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== >> > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html >> > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm >> > >> > ============================== >> > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn >> > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== >> List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html >> Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Have had a wonderful distant "cousin" (Betty) contact me with the information of who my Great-Great Grandparents were. What a thrill that has been, finding a new cousin & the information she has. Now I am wondering if anyone out there is related or has any information. Can't believe they only had sons. Hoping someone will contact me at [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) James W. Williams b:11 Jan 1780 KY, d: 07 Feb 1847 Daviess Co, Indiana. Buried in Veale Crek Cemetery Daviess Co. IN. Married on 01 Feb 1809 in KY to: Mary Planck b:04 June 1777 VA, d:01 Apr 1857 Daviess Co. IN Buried in Veale Creek Cemetery Daviess, IN. Their Known children: (Thomas) Watson Williams b: 08 Feb 1810 KY d:Nov 1890 IN married Cynthia A. Sinks 21 Oct 1835 Daviess Co., IN Jacob Williams b: 30 Oct 1816 KY d: 1 Apr 1900 Daviess Co., IN married Margaret A. KY b:July 1820 KY William Williams b. abt 1821 KY (my great grandpa) d: ? married Rachel Ann Peachee b: 183 IN d: 1858 Daviess. Mordecai J. Williams b: 30 May 1822 KY d: 24 Aug 1884 " IN married Sophia Peachee b: 22 Mar 1821 d: 6 Aug 1901 James Williams (JR) b: 1826 KY d: ? married Jane ? Hopefully, Peggy

Thank you for the resource links, always glad to check out new sites and appreciate so much when someone puts one on here....

Well I for one, don't like Ancestry.com's One World Tree, if anyone looks on there and thinks it accurate they will be very sorry. They mix all the information up from a lot of people and make a tree out of it, talk about errors. But on there you can at least click onto the different trees that they combined and see what their sources were. If they have none, or if they are "Unknown" they I stay very shy of them. It's just a shame that people change their e-mail addresses so often, and we can't contact them.

Beautifully stated!! Leona L. Gustafson (Wife of Williams descendant) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:03 AM Subject: Re: FW: [WILLIAMS] Fake Family Genealogy > Few, if any of us, have completely accurate and fully documented > family trees. That's what message boards and mailing lists are about. We > share what we think we know. That's why it's so important to include > sources when we make assertions in our postings and discussions. > LDS, through their web site and their Family History Centers, provides > easy access to "pre-digested" genealogy research, as well as to original > sources on microfilm. Ancestry.com and other such sites offer easy access, > but you have to be wary of their indexing and creative with your search > strategies. Even original sources can contain erroneous information or > can be misinterpreted by the reader. > The best we can do is to continue to share information and sources and > document and share our doubts, as well as our certainties. > W. McCollum > (Descendant of Pleasant Williams and Elizabeth Streetman of early 19th > century Georgia) >

LDS is dangerous. They list anything people put on there without checking for correctness (that would be pretty well impossible, wouldn't it?) so it is a place to start but everything has to be checked out carefully. You can find most anything on LDS. They do have excellent resources for checking, however, if you just know to go to that. The local Mormon library attendants are so very helpful. Dorothy C. White [email protected] 804.795.4296 > -----Original Message----- > From: Nathan [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 7:27 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Fake Family Genealogy > > > What about www.familysearch.com ? > Some of the stuff on there is plain wrong, and has set me back ages. > > Nathan > [email protected] > > > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Hi all, Here are some WILLIAMS links for your research. If the link breaks up, just cut and past it into your browser. GBUFF library search for WILLIAMS: http://www.picosearch.com/cgi-bin/ts.pl?index=131319&calln=6&lastq=%2Bfrost%20%2B131319partitionnn&sortsel=rel&psel=all&opt=ANY&doc0=0&query=Williams GBUFF database search for WILLIAMS: http://www.genealogybuff.com/data.htm#Williams SURNAME SEARCH UTILITY search for WILLIAMS: http://www.picosearch.com/cgi-bin/ts.pl?index=160383&calln=3&lastq=&opt=ANY&doc0=0&query=Williams Hope these help. Bill

W. McCollum Do you have the family name Norman in your Williams line? The name Pleasant is in my Norman line. Also I have a Thomas (John) Pleasant Williams. Pleasant Norman and Lucy Norman, parents of my great great grandmother Sarah Jane Norman Williams. Just checking. Tina Williams Swyers [email protected] wrote: Few, if any of us, have completely accurate and fully documented family trees. That's what message boards and mailing lists are about. We share what we think we know. That's why it's so important to include sources when we make assertions in our postings and discussions. LDS, through their web site and their Family History Centers, provides easy access to "pre-digested" genealogy research, as well as to original sources on microfilm. Ancestry.com and other such sites offer easy access, but you have to be wary of their indexing and creative with your search strategies. Even original sources can contain erroneous information or can be misinterpreted by the reader. The best we can do is to continue to share information and sources and document and share our doubts, as well as our certainties. W. McCollum (Descendant of Pleasant Williams and Elizabeth Streetman of early 19th century Georgia) -------------- Original message -------------- > LDS is dangerous. They list anything people put on there without checking > for correctness (that would be pretty well impossible, wouldn't it?) so it > is a place to start but everything has to be checked out carefully. You can > find most anything on LDS. They do have excellent resources for checking, > however, if you just know to go to that. The local Mormon library > attendants are so very helpful. > > Dorothy C. White > [email protected] > 804.795.4296 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nathan [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 7:27 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Fake Family Genealogy > > > > > > What about www.familysearch.com ? > > Some of the stuff on there is plain wrong, and has set me back ages. > > > > Nathan > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn > > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

Thanks Donna good to hear from you again.I've talked to Juliann too. Although I've been really busy the last 6 months and have not had the time to really do any research. I noticed that name Adinijah (or at least a close spelling) in the book several times. I'm sure there is a connection of some type. Keep up the good work. Have a GREAT Thankgiving...I'm off to Chicago (on business) I'll be home just before Turkey day. Bye for now Dave

To my dear great-grandmother Rachel Ann (Peachee) Williams......oh how I wish that you could be my dinner guest for our Thanksgiving dinner. I am sure it would be different than the ones you used to prepare. We have such modern ways of doing things now days, no longer the wood burning stove, or the hauling of water. The tasks that were everyday things that you may have had to do. Life is so much more easy these days but so many still do not appreciate it, or think back on what it was like. Were it not for you, I wouldn't even be here today! There is such a mystery about you and my great grandpa, and one I would love for you to explain to me. I know you were born to the Benjamin Franklin Peachee family in 1823, Daviess Co. IN & you married my great grandpa William Williams on May 18, 1843 in Daviess Co., IN. He was born in KY in abt 1821 to James W. Williams and Mary (Planck) Williams but the family moved to Daviess Co., IN before the 1830 census. I know you had 3 children, one of them my grandfather George W. Williams born IN 1844, a daughter Martha J. Williams abt 1847 & another son John Lemual Williams abt 1854 all in Daviess Co. IN. My question to you: Why do you never show up on a single census, my grandpa George (at age 6) was with his maternal grandparents (Benj. & Rebecca Peachee) in the 1850 census, and your husband William was living with his brother Jacob! I can't find you anywhere!! I know you died in 1858 at only 35 years of age, what happened to you, and your other 2 children. Why doesn't anyone know what happened to you. And why do none of the children show up with their father??? On the next census 1860 my granpa George was living with his uncle James Peachee. His father was living with another family!! After that I can't even find my William Williams. Well maybe in time someone can help me solve the mystery of what happened.....where you were all those 15 years after you were married! Anyway I would just love to have you here so I could hug you and tell you how much you mean to me.... Peggy Williams Peterson

I read the information on this "Fake Family Genealogy" also. There is no point in putting out these fake genealogy's, and it can only eventually become harmful for people who take this seriously as we do. But I was glad that someone put it on this list, we all have to be so careful in documenting our sources, and this is just a reminder that there are those out there who like to "cloud" the truths we try to hard to find. So on with our searches, aware that these things do happen!

Hi Donna, Don't forget about me, I'd like in on that discusssion also...Did you notice the DNA result with Lyle, Fred and me? I guess that must prove we do have a family link in Lyle and Freds book. Your cousin Dave

Tina I'm a different Donna, but if you are from Willow Springs, Missouri I'd be interested to know if you know/knew any Kentch's. There were a bunch there in early 1900's. We also found my daughter in law's cousin living on a farm next door to one of the Kentch's. Donna Williams Kentch ----- Original Message ----- From: "SUSETTE SWYERS" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Thanksgiving Dinner Guest > I think we have a connection here. I have e-mailed you, Donna to your e-mail. > My Dad had an Aunt Lena and an Uncle Ed. His grandfather's name was Josiah > Hardin Williams. > Tina > > Donna Carter <[email protected]> wrote: > Is tise one of those things that makes one stop and think WELL.my > grandfather was WILLIAM FRANKLIN WILLIAMS who was born in Williamsville > Missouri. > I have a picture of a JOSIAH that we dont know he is. My father was named > WILLIAM EDISON WILLIAMS (called ED)and had a sister named LENA.ODD > COINCEDINCE. > Willow Springs is about an hour and a halfs drive to Williamsville. > Nina