Thank you. He was a wonderful person. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] James Dean > Hi Kay C., > > Your James Dean WILLIAMS 1956-2004 sounds like he was a wonderful person. > He > can serve as an inspiration to us all. We need more people like him in > the > world. > > Sincerely, > > Susan > > > > > > > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Iris, I have a John Williams, whose father is Isaac. Isaac was born in NC, don't know the county, but this John was born in Bedford County, TN. If this is yours, I have quite a bit of information on him. Debi ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS] John C. Williams > Mike, > > Sorry, I have no idea where my John was born. One source says his father's name was Isaac, but there are so many Isaacs in the area of Cumberland, Duplin, and Harnett Cos., NC. It is really difficult to find anything about him and be sure it is the right one. I don't know if they were born in that area or not . > > Iris > > > > > > Your John C Williams, do you where he was born? I am > > currently chasing my wife's GGG Grandfather John > > Williams who married Elizabeth Stringer and also had a > > son by the name of John Cross Williams. The John C > > Williams that I have was born about 1803 in Belmont > > County, Ohio. > > > > Mike > > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Wow! Living to 100 and 102 in those days was unheard of so you come from great genes. Dorothy C. White [email protected] 804.795.4296 > -----Original Message----- > From: Sergio Salés Reyes [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:02 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [WILLIAMS] - Thanksgiving Dinner - Elisha Williams 1728, MD > > > > > > My choice would be to invite Elisha WILLIAMS b. 1728/35 so > he could tell about his experiences during the Revolutionary > War. He was a delegate to the first State Convention that > helped frame the constitution of Maryland. Did he suffer any > consequences for his part in the Rev. War? > > I'd also like to ask him about his son, Thomas Swearingen > WILLIAMS who married Ann BECKWITH in 1814. Who were her parents? > > I would like for Elisha WILLIAMS' wife, Ann VAN SWEARINGEN, > my GGGGG Grandmother to tell us about her parents. John and > Mary were married when Mary was 16 and they were married for > 84 years. One lived to be 100 and the other 102. > > It could make for a very interesting meal. Happy > Thanksgiving everyone! > > Janni > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Quaker WILLIAMSes, what given names did they have? When and where were they? Any Benjamin, Jonas, or Elihu among the Quakers in the early or mid 1700's? Kay C. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS]Was it a "simpler" time and James Dean >I think all of this about the past or the present being the more simple >time > is a very complicated subject. Some parts of life are more simple now and > others are more complex and stress producing than in times past. I hope > people > don't argue about it anymore. It's interesting to discuss the subject, > but I > don't think there is a black and white answer. > > This year I think I would invite James Dean (1931-1955) the movie star to > the Williams' Thanksgiving dinner. Did everyone know that he is related > to one > of the Quaker Williams' lines? He was my way-distant cousin. He would > liven > things up! > > Have a wonderful holiday! > > Sincerely, > > Susan > > > Susan E. Davis > Genealogy Site: _http://www.Tribalpages.com/tribes/shasta4737_ > (http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/shasta4737) > Address: 134 South West 14th Street > Richmond, Indiana 47374 > Phone: 765-965-6518 > > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Oh yes, "James DEAN", the original rebel, and a life cut short. Our "James Dean WILLIAMS" was born in 1956. He was born with a birth defect, a serious one; and they thought he could not live long. But he did, and he had a wonderful personality, an unusual sense of humor, he was involved in sports (mostly the individual type), charity work through the Lions helping to produce a local variety show benefit, as writer, actor and singer. His death came in 2004, he lost to round three of cancer. His life of pain was over. Kay C. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS]Was it a "simpler" time and James Dean >I think all of this about the past or the present being the more simple >time > is a very complicated subject. Some parts of life are more simple now and > others are more complex and stress producing than in times past. I hope > people > don't argue about it anymore. It's interesting to discuss the subject, > but I > don't think there is a black and white answer. > > This year I think I would invite James Dean (1931-1955) the movie star to > the Williams' Thanksgiving dinner. Did everyone know that he is related > to one > of the Quaker Williams' lines? He was my way-distant cousin. He would > liven > things up! > > Have a wonderful holiday! > > Sincerely, > > Susan > > > Susan E. Davis > Genealogy Site: _http://www.Tribalpages.com/tribes/shasta4737_ > (http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/shasta4737) > Address: 134 South West 14th Street > Richmond, Indiana 47374 > Phone: 765-965-6518 > > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Fellow List members, I lost my Address Book in a hard drive wipe and reload. If you were ever in contact, or shared information with me, please forward your e-mail address along with whatever particulars you might remember about our contact. I am sorry to be such a nuisance, but I would really appreciate any help I could get with this problem. Thanking you in advance, Walt Boswell [email protected] E-mailless in Alabama

Thanks a lot for the help. God bless us everyone! walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilbert, Linda N" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:13 AM Subject: RE: [WILLIAMS] Thanksgiving Dinner with Rootsweb > It's http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Walt Boswell [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:10 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [WILLIAMS] Thanksgiving Dinner with Rootsweb > > HEY! I'd love to have Thanksgiving Dinner with the rest of my Rootsweb > mail lists, but I can't because I lost my Address Book in a wipe and > reload. Does anyone remember the address at Rootsweb where I can get a > list of all the Rootsweb mail lists to which I belong? I can't find it > on the Internet. Help, please. > > Bless you. > > walt boswell > [email protected] > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

It's http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Walt Boswell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [WILLIAMS] Thanksgiving Dinner with Rootsweb HEY! I'd love to have Thanksgiving Dinner with the rest of my Rootsweb mail lists, but I can't because I lost my Address Book in a wipe and reload. Does anyone remember the address at Rootsweb where I can get a list of all the Rootsweb mail lists to which I belong? I can't find it on the Internet. Help, please. Bless you. walt boswell [email protected] ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

HEY! I'd love to have Thanksgiving Dinner with the rest of my Rootsweb mail lists, but I can't because I lost my Address Book in a wipe and reload. Does anyone remember the address at Rootsweb where I can get a list of all the Rootsweb mail lists to which I belong? I can't find it on the Internet. Help, please. Bless you. walt boswell [email protected]

My choice would be to invite Elisha WILLIAMS b. 1728/35 so he could tell about his experiences during the Revolutionary War. He was a delegate to the first State Convention that helped frame the constitution of Maryland. Did he suffer any consequences for his part in the Rev. War? I'd also like to ask him about his son, Thomas Swearingen WILLIAMS who married Ann BECKWITH in 1814. Who were her parents? I would like for Elisha WILLIAMS' wife, Ann VAN SWEARINGEN, my GGGGG Grandmother to tell us about her parents. John and Mary were married when Mary was 16 and they were married for 84 years. One lived to be 100 and the other 102. It could make for a very interesting meal. Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Janni

This was a great question. For Thanksgiving, I would enjoy inviting my Great, Great Grandfather, Dr. John Allen WILLIAMS to join us. He was born in 1826 or 1827 in Indiana. My curiosity is regarding his wives' names, where they met, etc. His first wife was Sarah Emmeline/Evaline FORD or Katherine FORD. They had six or seven children and then Sarah disappears. Was Sarah Emmeline the same person as Katherine? Where was Sarah from? During the Civil War, he married a widow named Virginia (FULTON) FODGE whose husband had died in the war, leaving her with three children. After John and Virginia were married, they then had six more children. In total, there were 13 children from the three marriages. So, I would ask him about his wives' names. I would also like to know what became of all those other children. My Great Grandmother, Laura WILLIAMS, is in a group picture with 10 of her siblings, taken at the funeral for one of her sisters. Do any of their descendants get together for a family reunion now? Lastly, I would like to know where John and his wives are buried. I have searched high and low and have not found the place where they are buried. Are they buried in Pee Wee Cemetery, outside of Anderson, IN? Thank you. Janni

Hello, List. If I could invite my Williams ancestor, I would invite Leah WILLIAMS. She was married to Ralph JACKSON in Henrico Co., VA around 1677 and according to some accounts was the daughter of William WILLIAMS. She later married one John PATTISON. I would like for her to tell me who her mother was and from where her Williams family came. I would also ask her the surname of the person her son, Joseph, married. Her first name was Martha but I don't know her last name. Something else to listen to, would be the story about where her husband, Ralph, came from in England and if it is true he came over as an indentured servant, to Francis EPPES. Lastly I would ask her where they buried her husband, Ralph JACKSON and if she is buried beside him. There is a modern marker on their land and several pieces of destroyed cemetery stones but none for Ralph and Leah that we could find. Did they ever celebrate something similar to a Thanksgiving? We do have a lot to be thankful for. One thing is our wonderful heritage and great nation! Janni Smith Salés

I think all of this about the past or the present being the more simple time is a very complicated subject. Some parts of life are more simple now and others are more complex and stress producing than in times past. I hope people don't argue about it anymore. It's interesting to discuss the subject, but I don't think there is a black and white answer. This year I think I would invite James Dean (1931-1955) the movie star to the Williams' Thanksgiving dinner. Did everyone know that he is related to one of the Quaker Williams' lines? He was my way-distant cousin. He would liven things up! Have a wonderful holiday! Sincerely, Susan Susan E. Davis Genealogy Site: _http://www.Tribalpages.com/tribes/shasta4737_ (http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/shasta4737) Address: 134 South West 14th Street Richmond, Indiana 47374 Phone: 765-965-6518

My John Cull Williams was born in Anson Co., NC about 1830, the son of Joseph W. Williams and Barbara Mullis. He lived and died in the same area which became Union Co., in 1842. Dorothy C. White [email protected] 804.795.4296 > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike McDonald [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 10:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] If I could invite an ancestor to > Thanksgiving Dinner > > > Iris, > > Your John C Williams, do you where he was born? I am > currently chasing my wife's GGG Grandfather John > Williams who married Elizabeth Stringer and also had a > son by the name of John Cross Williams. The John C > Williams that I have was born about 1803 in Belmont > County, Ohio. > > Mike > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > Dorothy, > > > > I say yea and amen to this. You go Girl!!! > > > > I would also like to say if I could invite an > > ancestor to Thanksgiving Dinner, it would be my > > husband's > > 2nd great grandfather, John C. Williams who was born > > abt 1789. I would ask him what was his wife's name. > > Numerous other things, too, but I would like to go > > back in time and visit with them. Sure hope I could > > get back, though. LOL > > > > Iris Brown > > [email protected] > > > > Our country not in bad shape? With millions seeking > > honest work in a > > changing economy that has come to cheating, lying > > and falsifying records in > > order to boost stock prices, our congress angrily > > shouting at each other in > > bitter hatred, natural disasters destroying homes > > and lives in vast areas, > > subversives trying to wipe out our very national > > history, and crime against > > unborns and children on a daily basis plus many > > other inhuman, unthinkable > > stands this country is so sharply divided on issues > > that hatred is growing > > at an unprecedented rate. Always this country with > > it divided interests has > > rallied as one in fighting whatever enemy rears it's > > ugly head threatening > > our people and it's culture until not long ago. > > > > This is America! A land of the free (free to be > > forced to install alarms in > > our homes and cars for a hoped for safety), a land > > of the brave (brave > > people shielding our children from gun fire at > > schools and places of > > business because of berserk, angry students and > > employees). I believe our > > ancestors would not believe they had come back to > > the same planet to say > > nothing of the same country they fought and > > sacrificed so much that we might > > have a better life than themselves. > > > > If you are not old enough to remember a time when > > differences of opinion > > were welcomed but common sense prevailed and you > > shaped up or were laughed > > out of existence; when the bully or two in a > > classroom was shunned by the > > serious student and the teacher was honored and > > respected; when we learned > > in our homes to obey the law and if the law was > > unfair to work to get it > > changed - the laws of our homes were our parents > > rules so we learned to obey > > before we had to be hauled into courts and put in > > jails for crimes against > > humanity even petty crimes. A time when we had > > statesmen who had the health > > and welfare of this country and it's relationship > > with other nations > > foremost in their hearts and actions - that was > > before money hungry > > politicians took over and put money before our > > national interests. A time > > when no matter who occupied the White House congress > > was the ruling body. > > That has been quite a while ago but don't ever > > forget there are those of us > > who know the deterioration of our nation and our > > personal rights. > > > > Dorothy C. White > > [email protected] > > 804.795.4296 > > > > > > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > > List web page: > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > > Genealogy Links - > > http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > > your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > > last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your > family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added > in the last 12 months. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

You say "simpler time" now? To me the computer technology (sp?) is not simple. I am always having to learn something new; at my almost 68 years that is not a simple thing to do. Today may be more comfortable, temperature-wise; but I find the speed of things more stressful. Driving is more stressful because there is much more traffic. Kay C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Knox" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 6:54 PM Subject: [WILLIAMS] It was a "simpler" time? I think not. > This discussion may be getting near to the point where we should stop. > But I just wanted to add my own comment here which I don't think is of a > political nature. > > Someone made a comment that seemed to infer he/she thought the "old days" > of our ancestors was the "simpler time". I have heard that before. > > But I happen not to think that is true at all. Our day-to-day lives today > are tremendously simpler than the much more complex day-to-day lives our > ancestors lived. I myself am 71 years old and remember times back in the > 30s & 40s. This is most definitely the simpler time, even compared to > that time! > > Modern technology and the benefits now available make things tremendously > simpler for the vast majority of us Americans today, certainly NOT more > complex. > > Think about it. > > Phil > > Phil Knox <[email protected]> > My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~pknox/ > My genealogical database on WorldConnect: > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=pknox > NOTE: E-mail and attachments are automatically scanned by McAfee Antivirus > software. > > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

My Thanksgiving Day question for my ancestor Phillip Williams and his son, Daniel Motley Hundley Williams would be......Why are your children's named alais Hundley's in your "will"?? Are Judith and Mary your wives related some have said they were sisters but we are not sure.... I just sent this email to someone researching my line of Williams and thought I'd post it here for those of you who might need it...........I have this Phillip Williams married to second Judith Hundley and first Mary Motley....Can anyone tell me if they have a copy of the original will and either marriage bond. I would love to have a copy ... Happy Thanksgiving to my Williams Cousins, Marsha Campbellsville, Taylor Co., KY (old Green Co., KY) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- .I have Phillip Williams md to Judith Hundley in Amelia Co. VA children, Daniel Motley Hundley Williams, Martha Hundley Williams, Frances Hundley Williams, Josiah Hundley Williams md to Judith Elmore in Amelia Co., Warner Hundley Williams and my Letitia Williams Here is my ancestor Phillip's "Will" 4 Jan 1785: THE LAST WILL & TESTAMENT OF PHILIP WILLIAMS SR. [ In the name of God Amen I Philip Williams Senior of the Parish of Nottoway and the County of Amelia now in perfect health sensis[sic] and memory, do make and constitute this my Last Will & Testament as follows that is to say first and Principally I command my soul into the hands of the Almighty God hoping to receive free forgiveness and Pardon for all my sins committed here on Earth and secondly I leave my body to the discretion of my Executors hereafter named to be decently buried, and as Touching my worldly Estate I give in manner and form following (Viz.) I give and bequeath unto my son PHILIP WILLIAMS Two hundred and Thirty Acres of Land and one negro George and one named Toney which he hath already in his Possession. I give to my daughter ELIZABETH VAUGHN and her Heirs forever a negro boy which she now has in Possession named Ralph. I give to the Heirs of my deceased daughter MARY MOTLEY a negro woman named Betty which is now in their possession and also her future increase I give to my daughter LETITIS[sic] ELMORE and her Heirs forever a negro Girl named Lyddia and all her future Increase also a negroe boy named Ned and a Feather bed and Furniture which she hath already in Possession. I give to my daughter MARTHA WILLIAMS ALIAS HUNDLEY & her Heirs forever a negro Girl named Rachel with all her Future Increase, also a negro boy named Caesar called John and a Feather bed and Furniture. I give to my daughter FRANCES WILLIAMS ALIAS HUNDLEY & her heirs forever a negro Girl named Sall and all her Future Increase also a negro boy named Jasper and a Feather bed and Furniture And Provided either of my two Daughters last mentioned should die leaving no lawful Heir the Part of the Estate given her by me I give to the other surviving sister and her heirs forever I give my son JOSIAH WILLIAMS ALIAS HUNDLEY and his Heirs forever the Tract of Land whereon I now live containing Three hundred and Twenty Four Acres more or Less. I give to my son DANIEL WILLIAMS ALIAS HUNDLEY and his heirs forever the tract of land I Purchased of John Doaren[Dearin] I give to my son WARNER WILLIAMS ALIAS HUNDLEY and his Heirs forever Two Hundred Pounds cash to be raised out of my Estate not before Given And the remaining Part of my Estate not before given I Give to be Equally divided between my three sons last mentioned and Provided either of my said Three sons should die leaving no lawful Heir of their body that Part of Estate given them by me I give to be Equally Divided among the Surviving brothers and their Heirs forever And I do hereby Constitute nominate and appoint my son Philip Williams, Joel Motley and John Beadle executors to this my last Will and Testament as Witness my hand and Seal the Fourteen day of January in the year of our Lord Christ One thousand seven hundred and Eighty five. Signed Seal'd & Acknowledg'd. Philip Williams [seal] In Presents[sic] of Booker Foster, Augustin Beadle 28 Dec 1786: Will proven by oath of witnesses & exctrs. Jun 1787: Inventory & Appraisal of Philip Sr.'s estate, totaling L817+ 01 Sep 1788: Josiah Williams sued. Philip Williams Jr., Joel Motley (as excrs. of the estate of Philip Williams Sr.,) and Thomas Elmore (as gdn of Daniel & Warner Williams orphans of Philip Sr.) for division of the estate. A commission was appointed to divide the estate according to the residuary clause and make final report to the court 21 July 1790 Josiah Williams rec'd. 4 negroes, Dick, Lander & child, and Poll, in settlement of his father's estate; Daniel allotted three negroes James, Sam & David; Warner Williams allotted four negroes Harry, Bobb, Peter & Harod[Herrod] 22 Mar 1792 Final report by cmmsnrs on the estate of Philip Williams Sr.

:-( My Wrights are from KY and then Ilinois, where somehow my ggg grandmother met E.V. Williams and they got married and move to Wisconsin. I lost after her father, Andrew Wright. I know he's from KY, but I don't know where. Thanks, Kay! jeff On Nov 20, 2005, at 8:22 PM, N & K Chestnut wrote: > My sister-in-law's WRIGHT go from OR. to Imperial Valley, CA. to > OK., I am not sure where before that. Throw in the TEAGUE surname > and some Native American somewhere, and you two may be "on the same > page". > > Kay C. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Boehm" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 6:04 AM > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS] Question - R. = ??? > > > >> Kay, >> >> Where are your Wrights from? >> >> Jeff >> >> On Nov 18, 2005, at 6:07 PM, N & K Chestnut wrote: >> >> >>> You cannot blame me for trying. >>> I guess that sometimes people (male & female) were given initials >>> instead of names, and the letter didn't stand for anything or >>> any name. >>> >>> Case in point, sister-in-law, Shirley K. WRIGHT, and the K. >>> didn't stand for anything or name. >>> >>> Case in point, GGrandfather, David G. SMITH, and no one knows or >>> knew what the "G." stood for. >>> >>> Kay (Williams) Chestnut >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 2:48 PM >>> Subject: RE: [WILLIAMS] Question - R. = ??? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Kay, >>>> I have no idea what it stood for. James R. had 6 sons and >>>> Joseph R. is the >>>> only "R". He had a grandson and g grandson named Robert. I >>>> thought I would >>>> get more info from the pension file but not this one. >>>> >>>> Helen >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: N & K Chestnut [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 4:19 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: [WILLIAMS] Question - R. = ??? >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Helen, >>>> Any idea what the "R." stood for, for Joseph R. WILLIAMS & >>>> James R. >>>> WILLIAMS? >>>> I have a James Riley WILLIAMS born about 1843 probably in >>>> Washington >>>> Co., IL. But his descendant had a 23/25 match with a WILLIAMS >>>> in TN. >>>> >>>> Kay (Williams) Chestnut >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Helen" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:09 PM >>>> Subject: [WILLIAMS] Williams in Cocke Co., TN >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I have just received the Civil War Pension file for Joseph R. >>>>> Williams. He >>>>> was the oldest son of my gg grandfather, James R. Williams. >>>>> Joseph R. was >>>>> born April 3, 1846 in Newport, Cocke Co., TN. Until now the >>>>> first place I >>>>> found James R. was in Subdivision 15, Knox Co. in 1850 census. >>>>> My g >>>>> grandfather, Alexander L. Williams was born there Nov. 14, >>>>> 1850. Im >>>>> looking for Williams that were in Cocke Co. in the 1840s, any >>>>> that moved >>>>> on >>>>> to Knox Co., Roane Co, Monroe Co, Loudon Co. and these are >>>>> just some of >>>>> the >>>>> places I have found some of my Williams line. >>>>> >>>>> Helen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== >>>>> List web page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/ >>>>> williams.html >>>>> Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm >>>>> >>>>> ============================== >>>>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records >>>>> added in the >>>>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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First off, I apologize for my earlier comments and did poorly to express them even though it should not have been done here. Secondly, I still thank every person who has helped me in my search for my wife's side of the family and as always more then willing to share what I have. If I had the ability to visit with an ancestor, on my wife's side of the family, it would be John Williams who was born about 1803 from what all records show in Belmont County, Ohio. On Jan 28, 1836 he married Elizabeth Stringer, daughter of John and Elizabeth (?) Stringer. Among the normal things I would love to know why when they moved the family to Marshall County, WV their daughter Elizabeth did not move along with them in 1860 and to find out what happened to her and where she ended up. I would really love to find out everything that text books never taught us, what was life really like then. I would like to find out who exactly his parents where and where they came from. If I may though, my ulitimate ancestor would be (for anyone researching the McDonald family) Jacob (John) McDonald who married Lydia Pangborn about 1770 after moving to New York from Scotland. I would love to find out if he only sailed from Glascow or if that was where he was really from. I think that it would be something to hear the stories of what it must have been like to sail across the ocean in a wooden boat when now we only have to drive as far as the closest airport to travel that far. I hope you all have a great Thanksgiving! Mike --- Jeff Boehm <[email protected]> wrote: > If our ancestors didn't want more, such as we do > now, we would not > have what we do now. That's why we invented the > things we did, > that's why we grabbed all the land that we could. > For better and > worse, that thinking has always been a part of our > fabric. Our > ancestors generally came here for a better life than > what they had. > > The freedom that we had\have also has a LOT to do > with our resilience > and ability to overcome, and has been a pervasive > part of our > personality as well. > > What we have lost is an general understanding of > what hard work means > in a physical sense. However, we still have the > "there's got to be a > better way to do it" mentality that is evidenced in > companies like > Apple and others. > > So, I don't know that the American mind-set is any > better or worse > than it was. It's just more "modern". > > Additionally, I am heartened to see our country jump > to the aid of > others in times of disaster. It's also fascinating > to see the people > of New Orleans seek an understanding of how to > rebuild a society from > the ground up. As usual, there are a few pioneers > who will blaze the > trail for the rest to follow. > > Yeah. . .for all of our problems. . .I'm still quite > proud of who we > are. > > Jeff > > > On Nov 20, 2005, at 12:24 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > I don't think our country is in such bad > condition. Exactly what do > > you > > consider bad in our country?? Can you imagine > living in some other > > country and > > being happy?? Hoping that this will not be the day > you are killed > > by a suicide > > bomber!! If our country is so bad, move to Iraq!! > > Brenda > > > > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > > List web page: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > > Genealogy Links - > http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million > records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the > world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - > http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so > much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

Iris, Your John C Williams, do you where he was born? I am currently chasing my wife's GGG Grandfather John Williams who married Elizabeth Stringer and also had a son by the name of John Cross Williams. The John C Williams that I have was born about 1803 in Belmont County, Ohio. Mike --- [email protected] wrote: > Dorothy, > > I say yea and amen to this. You go Girl!!! > > I would also like to say if I could invite an > ancestor to Thanksgiving Dinner, it would be my > husband's > 2nd great grandfather, John C. Williams who was born > abt 1789. I would ask him what was his wife's name. > Numerous other things, too, but I would like to go > back in time and visit with them. Sure hope I could > get back, though. LOL > > Iris Brown > [email protected] > > Our country not in bad shape? With millions seeking > honest work in a > changing economy that has come to cheating, lying > and falsifying records in > order to boost stock prices, our congress angrily > shouting at each other in > bitter hatred, natural disasters destroying homes > and lives in vast areas, > subversives trying to wipe out our very national > history, and crime against > unborns and children on a daily basis plus many > other inhuman, unthinkable > stands this country is so sharply divided on issues > that hatred is growing > at an unprecedented rate. Always this country with > it divided interests has > rallied as one in fighting whatever enemy rears it's > ugly head threatening > our people and it's culture until not long ago. > > This is America! A land of the free (free to be > forced to install alarms in > our homes and cars for a hoped for safety), a land > of the brave (brave > people shielding our children from gun fire at > schools and places of > business because of berserk, angry students and > employees). I believe our > ancestors would not believe they had come back to > the same planet to say > nothing of the same country they fought and > sacrificed so much that we might > have a better life than themselves. > > If you are not old enough to remember a time when > differences of opinion > were welcomed but common sense prevailed and you > shaped up or were laughed > out of existence; when the bully or two in a > classroom was shunned by the > serious student and the teacher was honored and > respected; when we learned > in our homes to obey the law and if the law was > unfair to work to get it > changed - the laws of our homes were our parents > rules so we learned to obey > before we had to be hauled into courts and put in > jails for crimes against > humanity even petty crimes. A time when we had > statesmen who had the health > and welfare of this country and it's relationship > with other nations > foremost in their hearts and actions - that was > before money hungry > politicians took over and put money before our > national interests. A time > when no matter who occupied the White House congress > was the ruling body. > That has been quite a while ago but don't ever > forget there are those of us > who know the deterioration of our nation and our > personal rights. > > Dorothy C. White > [email protected] > 804.795.4296 > > > > ==== WILLIAMS Mailing List ==== > List web page: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/williams.html > Genealogy Links - > http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

This discussion may be getting near to the point where we should stop. But I just wanted to add my own comment here which I don't think is of a political nature. Someone made a comment that seemed to infer he/she thought the "old days" of our ancestors was the "simpler time". I have heard that before. But I happen not to think that is true at all. Our day-to-day lives today are tremendously simpler than the much more complex day-to-day lives our ancestors lived. I myself am 71 years old and remember times back in the 30s & 40s. This is most definitely the simpler time, even compared to that time! Modern technology and the benefits now available make things tremendously simpler for the vast majority of us Americans today, certainly NOT more complex. Think about it. Phil Phil Knox <[email protected]> My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~pknox/ My genealogical database on WorldConnect: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=pknox NOTE: E-mail and attachments are automatically scanned by McAfee Antivirus software.