Just in case some of you may have deleted the "Welcome Message" you received when you subscribed to this List, here are instructions for getting a new copy: Send a message to: [email protected] (For those who use the Normal Mode.) or [email protected] (For those who use the Digest Mode.) (Replace "LISTNAME" above with the actual name of the List for which you wish to retrieve the Welcome Message.) Leave the subject line blank. In the body, type just the following, exactly as you see it: get file welcome.txt DO NOT type anything else in the body; turn off any automatic signature lines. Regards, SgtGeorge

To All RootsWeb List Members who use AOL for their EMail: The following was sent to all ListOwners at RootsWeb by Carole Hammett, Combs RootsWeb List Co-Moderator. I have taken the liberty of editing what she sent, to make it applicable to all the Lists, rather than just the COMBS-L List. **********(Carole's Message Follows)********** Within Just the Past Week Alone, AOL'S Mail Processor has: (1) Converted a 495 byte Email from one of the Lists to a File Attachment. (2) Converted a 645 byte Email from one of the Lists to a File Attachment. BUT, the Only Reason that the File Attachment was only 645 bytes was that AOL CORRUPTED the Email and DELETED part of it, including the Address and the Header. (3) Converted a 27kb Email from one of the Lists to a File Attachment and DELETED Half of the 16 messages in it (4) Delivered a 23kb Email from one of the Lists SIX DAYS LATE! There are Many More Examples of AOL Problems with Email since their latest Upgrade, which is Definitely a DOWNGRADE. The above are only a Very Few Examples; however, as a result: (a) A copy of this message was sent to AOL'S <[email protected]>, and henceforth it is planned to forward to them Each and Every Email and/or File Attachment that is Corrupted and/or Delayed. (b) A message was posted to AOL'S Email Message Board of Each and Every Email and/or File Attachment that was Corrupted and/or Delayed. (c) It is requested that each of you who get EMail through AOL (almost half the users on all the Lists) please do the same (d) A post was made to the RootsWeb List Owner's List, asking the 1,000+ other RootsWeb Listowners to also post a version of the above to Each of their Own Lists. We need this sort of problem like we need a Hole in the Head. It HAS to come to a Dead Halt Now, and that won't happen unless we all turn into Squeaky Wheels in Urgent Need of Grease! **********(End of Carole's Message)********** As Listowner of 13 Lists at RootsWeb, I have received my share of email complaining about this same problem. Usually, it involves those who receive the Digests from the Lists, but not always. I know personally that many AOL users have had to unsubscribe from the Digest Mode and subscribe to the Normal Mode in order to receive each and every post. And, even then, some individual posts have been corrupted beyond being of use. I cannot speak for anyone else, BUT, if you are an AOL user, AND, if you are tired of the mercenary attitude of the people who run AOL, it would seem to me that if enough users complain, Steve Case will HAVE to do something. Until about 6 weeks ago I was an AOL user, and had been since AOL was first started several years ago. I just got tired of problems with AOL -- seems like every time they made an "upgrade", I had problems. I kept my subscription to AOL, even after I had started to use a separate ISP for all my Net, Web, and EMail connections. There were a few things there that made it worth the extra monthly expense to keep AOL. Then, after one recent "upgrade", I tried to access a part of AOL and was told that I would have to download additional files, which I agreed to. The "automated" upgrade down- loaded the files to my system, started to install them, then hit a "glitch" somewhere and stopped. From that time forward, I could not even get the AOL interface to load on my system. The "auto- matic upgrade" thoroughly trashed my AOL files! After several messages back and forth to and from AOL, via my ISP email connection, I saw it was just hopeless to expect any kind of response from AOL that would solve my problem. So, I made a phone call and cancelled. Haven't regretted it since and really don't miss all the grief. My advice? Get yourself a separate ISP, use your own EMail program and Web Browser. You'll experience 99% less hassle and heartache, AND you'll get all your email from RootsWeb uncorrupted and whole. The above is just my honest opinion and if any of you take exception to anything I have said, PLEASE don't reply to the List -- send to me personally at my email address. I know that getting rid of something which is familiar is hard to do, BUT, you never know how satisfied you can be with something new until you have tried it. SgtGeorge

Since several of the HOAX stories concerning viruses in EMail have been going around lately, I thought this "notice" might be appropriate. IT IS A JOKE !!!!! Do NOT take this seriously !!!!! It is meant as sarcasm -- merely to point out how ridiculous the HOAX warnings are. Most of them are just about as "real" as this one. (GRIN) "Free Money" FAKE Virus: There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If you receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Free Money," DO NOT read the message. DELETE it immediately, UNPLUG your computer, then BURN IT to ASHES in a government-approved toxic waste disposal INCINERATOR. Once a computer is infected, it will be TOO LATE. Your computer will begin to emit a vile ODOR. Then it will secrete a foul, milky DISCHARGE. Verily, it shall SCREECH with the tortured, monitor-shattering SCREAM of 1,000 hell-scorched souls, drawing unwanted attention to your cubicle from co-workers and supervisors alike. After violently ripping itself from the wall, your computer will punch through your office window as it STREAKS into the night, HOWLING like a BANSHEE. Once free, it will spend the rest of its days TORTURING household PETS and MOCKING the POPE. Some filthy, disgusting miscreant ... some no-good, low-down, good-for-nothing DIRTY SNAKE, in twisted pursuit of his own sadistic dreams, is sending this virus across the Net via an e- mail entitled "Free Money." What is so terrifying about this virus is that you do not even to have to open the e-mail for it to activate. In fact, you do not even need to RECEIVE the e- mail. You do not even need to OWN a COMPUTER. "Free Money" can infect even minor HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES. How it does this with straight ASCII code is, frankly, a matter of some debate ... but BELIEVE YOU US, if this weren't a SERIOUS situation, we wouldn't be discussing it in ALL CAPS. So for the LOVE OF GOD, forward this e-mail to all those you claim to care about, all those you purport to love. Don't do it later! Do it NOW! Now! Now! NOW! NOW! NOW! Passed on to you by a friendly Listowner, SgtGeorge

NCC Washington Update, vol. 3, # 34, August 6, 1997 by Page Putnam Miller, Director of the National Coordinating Committee for the Promotion of History <[email protected]> 2. House Report on National Archives and NHPRC 3. The Annual Report of the State Department Advisory Committee Identifies Barriers To opening the Historical Record 2. House Report on National Archives and NHPRC -- Although the House Appropriations Committee Report on the Treasury Appropriations bill has not yet been filed and printed, the Committee endorsed the report language that had been approved by the Treasury, General Government and Postal Service Appropriations Subcommittee. The report, accompanying the recommendation for FY'98 funding for the National Archives and the National Historical Publications and Records Commission, deals with the management of the National Archives, preservation funding, classification reform, repairs and restorations, and NHPRC grants. The House Subcommittee expressed concern about the Archives' management in several areas. The report states: "that NARA is showing reluctance in adapting to more modern, and less costly, alternatives to maintaining documents in paper form." Additionally the committee noted that the Archives' strategic plan "did not go far enough in developing milestones, conforming to new Government Performance and Results Act guidelines, and providing specifics about NARA's future." On preservation, the subcommittee urged the Archives to develop a five-year funding plan for preservation. The subcommittee repeated concerns expressed last year about classification reform and directed that Archivist to submit by February 1, 1998 an update of agency compliance with the declassification requirements of Executive Order 12958. The section focusing on the grants program of the NHPRC stated: "Recently, there has erupted a controversy over whether or not to emphasize prioritizing grants to Founding Father's' projects or preserving electronic records. The committee has provided sufficient funding to ensure the priorities of NHPRC are met. Within the funds provided, the NHPRC should maintain its historical funding prioritization of Founding Fathers' and documentary editing." 3. The Annual Report of the State Department Advisory Committee Identifies Barriers To Opening the Historical Record -- On July 28 Warren Kimball, the Chair of the State Department Advisory Committee on Historical Diplomatic Documentation, submitted to Secretary Madeleine Albright and to House and Senate Committees the committee's annual report. The report states that the Committee is "unconvinced by arguments from some agencies that secrecy for 30-year old information takes precedence over the value for the democracy of openness." The primary causes for the delays in publishing volumes 30 years after events must, the committee asserted "be laid at the doorstep of the intelligence community, primarily the Central Intelligence Agency." The report makes clear that the Committee does not advocate revealing secrets that would jeopardize national security or the safety of individuals; however, the report states that the CIA has failed to declassify documents pertaining to activities that have been revealed in Congressional hearings and in memoirs by CIA agents. This fall the Committee will consider the possibility of withholding from publication some compiled volumes that do not include relevant intelligence involvement and would thus "fall grossly short of a complete record." While the Committee acknowledges that efforts are underway to develop a better working relationship with the CIA, the Committee remains skeptical as to whether new procedures will improve the situation. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NCC invites you to redistribute the NCC Washington Updates. A complete backfile of these reports is maintained by H-Net. See World Wide Web: http://h-net.msu.edu/~ncc/ * * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Well, Juno and RootsWeb have been having problems communicating again. In case some of you missed the last go 'round, here is the problem: When RootsWeb sends messages from the Lists to users at Juno, it usually takes a few seconds. Juno receives the mail and then sends an acknowledgement to RootsWeb and the connection is broken. As has happened twice now, Juno, for some reason, won't receive RootsWeb's mail right away and the connection stays open. While this is happening, RootsWeb can't receive mail or send out other mail. This time Juno held the connection for a long, long time and the folks at RootsWeb had to break the connection themselves so other business could go on. Don't know how long Juno hung up RootsWeb, but the last time it was for several hours. Anyway, the only recourse RootsWeb has is to remove ALL the addresses of Juno users until the problem at Juno is remedied. These addresses are removed from all the Lists, so you Juno users will get no messages while this is going on. Karen of RootsWeb sent out a message today saying that Juno appeared to be functioning properly again and that she had added all Juno addresses back to the Lists. If you didn't receive any mail for a while, that is the reason. You should be back on the Lists again. Sorry this has to happen, but until Juno gets some tweaking done to fix the problem, this may happen again. Now, I don't want any of you replying to my post here on the List, starting a new "flame" war over whether Juno was at fault or not. IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER! Juno wouldn't receive the mail, and wouldn't relinquish the connection, which hung up RootsWeb. I don't want to hear any arguments here on the List defending Juno and shifting the blame to RootsWeb. The folks at RootsWeb are knowledgeable enough to know what the problem is and if they say it is Juno's fault, let it be. You can email me privately, but, I say again, DO NOT start arguments here on the Lists about the problem. We have better things to do than argue over who is to blame. SgtGeorge

looking for Henry Odd Wilhoit/Willhoit b.1840 in Tenn. d. in Oklahoma in the 1920's. He married Martha Riley b. 1861 Texas. Thanks

I think I have covered the problem caused by users of Mozilla and Microsoft Internet Mail, relating to unwanted attachments. Now a new one shows up. Seems some users have taken advantage of a relatively new "toy", called "vCards". In case some of you are wondering what some of the new unwanted attachments are, when they are downloaded, there will be a description with "vCard" in the line. A "vCard" is just an electronic "business card". It's as though every time a person sends a letter through the postal service, they stick a business card in the envelope. Except, here on the Internet, it comes as one of those insidious "attachments". I can under- stand a business person wanting to stick a business card on the end of every email, but for the life of me I can't understand why anyone would be so vain as to want to stick one on with every email they send. I mean, personal mail, mail to Lists, etc. That is just vanity, pure and simple. My suggestion to all you users. I believe we can convince the guilty parties to stop it if we reply to their posts and make sure we attach the file back to the reply. Make sure you send it to the sender via private email, NOT back to the List. Please, I don't want to see hundreds of messages back to the List with attachments. BE SURE you send to the poster of the original message. If several hundred of us do this, I believe the senders will soon see that it is in their best interest to stop sending their vCards out as attachments. Dang it, it seems that as soon as we solve one problem, someone comes up with a new twist to disrupt the Net. I think that most users just don't consider the consequences of their actions. Or, maybe they do and just don't care. Well, I think we can make them care if we show them what an annoyance the attachments are. Your Listowner, SgtGeorge

To all subscribers of the Lists I manage: First and foremost -- DO NOT reply to SPAM messages to the Lists! It is being taken care of. Secondly, and equally as important -- DO NOT post messages to the Lists about this subject !!!!! You just do not know what is going on behind the scenes -- I'm up to my ears in unread email right now. If you MUST comment on the SPAM problem, send me a private email. DO NOT POST ANY MESSAGE TO THE LISTS IN RELATION TO THIS SUBJECT !!!!!! (Thanks.) Now, some of you may know, and some may not, that we were hit last night by the $%#&$&@* from Atlanta, GA, that crashed MAISER at Indiana University. He has evidently "found" our Lists on RootsWeb and sent out the same SPAM advertisements that he did at MAISER. Some Lists got hit and some didn't. If you didn't get the garbage, consider yourself lucky. Basically, what he did is send a long ad for his "toner" products to all the Lists at RootsWeb. There are probably 2,000 Lists there now, and if each averages 200 users, that's 400,000 individual emails that RootsWeb would have had to store and process, then send out. That's what crashed MAISER. It just couldn't handle it and froze up, after one hard drive had been physically destroyed. Actually, I received 6 duplicate messages on the HOMESPUN List, and 3-5 on some of the others. It is not at all inconceivable that were the spammer totally successful that RootsWeb would have to handle a million messages all at the same time. That would not be pretty!! BE WARNED !!!!! I am asking RootsWeb to re-configure my Lists so that only subscribers may post email to them. This may cause problems for some users who have "dynamic" email addresses. Some servers can't seem to settle down and decide on a domain name, so users addresses keep changing. If any of you have problems posting to the Lists after the changeover, I will receive the posts instead of them going to the Lists. I will get in touch with anyone who is having problems. I will try to keep everyone informed on what is going on. Just be patient and remember, DO NOT send ANY email to the Lists concerning SPAM, "Toner Man", or this problem in general. SgtGeorge Listowner

I found this in the Missouri genweb site in Saline Co. you might find this interesting, I did. happy hunting Joe SETTLEMENT of the "BIG BOTTOM" - In the fall of 1815, James Wilhite and Wm. Hayes came from West Tennessee to Cooper's Fort with wagons containg their families and all their household goods . . . During the winter of 1815-6 he [Wilhite] and Hayes crossed the riber and explored the country on this side to find homes for themselves. In October, 1816, they moved over with their families and settled near the lower extremity of the "Big Bottom." In the fall of 1817, Jacob Ish came into the settlement. The new colony had now a population of near three hundred. There had been a large immigration from Indiana and Kentucky the previous summer . . . pp149-150

The message below is from Karen Isaacson at RootsWeb. She sent it out to us Listowners just before 11:00 this morning (Tuesday). I had not forwarded it because I thought things would be back up and working before now. Since I have had some queries on this, thought I should send it out to all you subscribers. Of course you won't receive this until RootsWeb is back up again, but at least you will know what went wrong. SgtGeorge *************** (Start of quoted message.) One of the hard drives on lists.rootsweb.com (our main mailing list machine) is ailing this morning. It's =not= the drive with your mailing lists, that drive is fine. But Brian is going to have the system down most of the day while trying to salvage what he can from the failing drive, so you won't be able to access your utility pages, messages won't be flowing through your lists (they'll be spooled in a safe place until the system is up), etc. Brian didn't give me an estimate on how long this would take. Hopefully not all day... Karen (End of quoted message.) ***********************

Quoted below is a message I received tonight from AdoptionSearch. I haven't had time to check it out yet, but from the list of topics covered, I believe this will be an invaluable site for many researchers. Check it out and let the List know what you think. SgtGeorge *********************************************** (Start of quoted text.) Hello, AdoptionSearch went online TODAY! Adoption.com is very grateful to all of the sites that have provided links to us. As our way of saying thank you, we have created AdoptionSearch, the first Internet search engine focused on adoption. This new search engine and directory is for sites related to adoption, searching for lost family, parenting, pregnancy, infertility, health, families, children, and other related topics. (End of quoted text.) ********************************************** (Remainder of text deleted, as it pertained to me as owner of a specific Web Site.) To check out the site, go to: http://www.adoption.com. Happy Hunting, SgtGeorge George W. Durman To contact the Listowner, double-click the line immediately below: mailto:[email protected] Listowner of Surnames: BROYLES CULLOP CROCKETT DURMAN GAROUTTE LOVETTE WILHITE WILKINSON Other Lists: GERMANNA_COLONIES CFT-WIN HOMESPUN RESEARCH-HOWTO SURNAME-QUERY BROYLES Newsgroup Moderator (alt.family-names.broyles) CULLOP Newsgroup Moderator (alt.family-names.cullop) DURMAN Newsgroup Moderator (alt.family-names.durman) WILHITE Newsgroup Moderator (alt.family-names.wilhite) BROYLES/BRILES Family History Web Page & GERMANNA Information: http://www.concentric.net/~sgtgeorg/index.shtml

Just a short note to my Lists. On a couple of my larger Lists, some users are copying messages and passing on to their friends. Don't get me wrong, there's absolutely no problem with this. It's just that the recipients are missing a lot if they are not subscribed themselves. I just wanted to ask you to urge your friends to subscribe so they can get the messages first-hand. I feel that when people are users, they tend to participate and this leads to a lot more information being shared. That's what the Lists are all about, sharing. Also, if you reply to a post, unless it is purely personal, you can send the reply back to the List where we can all see it. I have picked up lots of important genealogy information by reading the exchange of data on the Lists. This is espec- ially true on the SURNAME Lists. You never know when some "lurker" will find the very name and data he or she has been looking for. Have a nice day, SgtGeorge Listowner

Guess it's time once again to send a gentle reminder about attachments to your email. As you all should know, if you have read the Welcome Messages that come when you subscribe, attachments are not allowed on the Lists. This rule is necessitated due to the fact that some users's email programs just absolutely freak out from attachments, especially large ones. Besides, it is very rare that all the subscribers to a List need to receive any attachment. They generally benefit only one or a few subscribers. Here's how it works: If you have an attachment you want to send, notify the List, stating the subject, generally what it contains, and how large it is in bytes. Inform the List that you will gladly send it to individual users' email addresses if they request it. AND, the request should go to you personally, not back to the List. Now a note to users of Mozilla and Microsoft email programs. These two products are notorious for taking the text in the body of a message, converting it to HTML, and then attaching it as a separate file to the email. This is caused because when the program was installed, the default configuration was HTML and it should have been "plain text". We get attachments from many users who do not know they are sending them. Some, when notified, vehemently argue that they are NOT sending attachments. They just don't know they are. If you are using Mozilla or a Microsoft email program (especially Microsoft Internet Mail), PLEASE check your configuration and make sure you have set "plain text", not "HTML". This will solve many problems on the Lists. And to the rest of you subscribers, when you receive an unwanted attachment, before you angrily blast the sender, look in the header section of the message and see if there is a line "X-Mailer". Look at that line and see if Mozilla or Microsoft show up there. If so, then chances are about 99.99% that the user hasn't changed the configuration. Instead of flaming him or her, gently remind that the configuration should be changed. These inadvertent attachments are usually very small, just a few bytes, and cause no problems to anyone's email program due to their small size; however, they are a genuine nuisance and can be taken care of, IF the sender will take the time and trouble to change the settings of the email program. Just remember, no attachments to the Lists. If you have some- thing that you feel would benefit everyone, type it into the body of the message, rather than making it an attachment. If it is long, make 2 or 3 messages and identify them as Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, etc. SgtGeorge Listowner

Hi Group, I hate to post this here, but I saw where someone was looking for an Ephairm Witcher several weeks ago, I have a book with him in it, and would like to pass on the information, it has famliy photos, history, and even some Civil War battles that was fought in the area, of Saline Co. Missouri. Wantin to share Joe Saylor

I am looking for the parents of Eli Wilhite, born in Virginia, Illinois (Cass County), born 5/15/1852. Any one have any info on this? Dennis Wilhite Eli's great grandson

Just thought I would pass this along to all my subscribers. It was posted to the List for us Listowners and I think it is a good idea. If you enjoy your Lists and are able to help out a little, Brian and Karen (the Listmasters at RootsWeb) would be sure to appreciate it. ******************Start of Copied Message******************** Another way that we can all say Thank You to Brian and Karen is to send in our own sponsorship to RootsWeb. The money that RootsWeb gets from it's sponsors goes towards paying for the equipment, hardware and software that Brian & Karen use to keep things running for all of us. Let's all do our part to keep the RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative moving forward and getting better with each and every upgrade! Let the members of your mailing list know about the wonderful service that Karen & Brian provide for us as well. How to Subscribe to RootsWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html Cyndi Howells Puyallup, Washington [email protected] PSRoots-L List Pooh-Bah and Evan's Mommy! http://www.oz.net/~cyndihow/baby.gif PSRoots-L Mailing List http://www.rootsweb.com/~watpcgs/psroots.htm Cyndi's List http://www.oz.net/~cyndihow/sites.htm *****************End of Copied Message********************* I know that many of you have already sent in contributions. This message is mainly for you new users who have sub- scribed in the past 6 weeks or so. When MAISER crashed and we all lost our Lists, Brian and Karen at RootsWeb graciously accepted transfer of the Lists to RootsWeb, and waived the usual costs for Listowners. They had to purchase an entire new computer system to handle the increased mail and since have had to add even more hardware and software. Most of us Listowners mailed in our subscriptions in spite of the fact that we didn't have to do so. Some of us even sent in two or more subscriptions. RootsWeb is the home of ROOTS-L, probably the "premier" genealogy Newsgroup and List on the Net/Web. RootsWeb is not a profit-making enterprise -- it exists because Brian and Karen believe in what they do, and because of their charitable nature. Both have full-time jobs and handle all the necessary chores of keeping RootsWeb working in their spare time. (I, for one, don't believe they really have any "spare time".) So, if YOU feel charitable, please go to the URL mentioned above and check out the various subscription plans. You will surely find one that fits your budget. If I have any millionaire subscribers on any of my Lists, you can send in fifty thousand or so and we'll all appreciate it. (Just kidding -- GRIN!) Happy Hunting and Enjoy the Lists, SgtGeorge mailto:[email protected] George W. Durman 925 Kevin Rd. Knoxville, TN 37923-2540 (423)470-4853 BROYLES-L ListOwner CULLOP-L ListOwner CROCKETT-L ListOwner DURMAN-L ListOwner GAROUTTE-L ListOwner LOVETTE-L ListOwner WILHITE-L ListOwner WILKINSON-L ListOwner GERMANNA_COLONIES (Temporary) ListOwner CFT-WIN-L ListOwner HOMESPUN-L ListOwner RESEARCH-HOWTO-L ListOwner SURNAME-QUERY-L ListOwner BROYLES Newsgroup Moderator (alt.family-names.broyles) CULLOP Newsgroup Moderator (alt.family-names.cullop) DURMAN Newsgroup Moderator (alt.family-names.durman) WILHITE Newsgroup Moderator (alt.family-names.wilhite) BROYLES/BRILES Family History Web Page: http://www.concentric.net/~sgtgeorg/index.shtml

Here is tonights evaluation of EUDORA LITE from the popular site, TUCOWS. Check it out. =========== Eudora Light Version Number: 3.0.2 Beta 5 Revision Date: June 21, 1997 File Name: el302b5.exe Byte Size: 4,229,150 License: Postcardware. Also Available: Windows 95 Version Homepage: http://www.eudora.com/winlight301b.html Description: Probably the most popular email applications on the net, Eudora Light is the trimmed down version of Eudora Pro. With it's powerful and easy to use interface, it's no surprise. Rated at 5 Cows ================ SgtGeorge

We received the following from Karen Isaacson, one of the ListMasters at RootsWeb, about problems at JUNO.COM. If you receive this, belatedly, are a JUNO user, and wonder why you have not received email from the Lists, this is the reason. ============= All Juno members to all RootsWeb lists have been temporarily unsubscribed. Please don't add them back to your lists, at least, not if you want the non-Juno subscribers to reliably receive messages. Juno has their inbound mail so badly broken right now that it essentially grabs and holds onto any site that tries to deliver mail to them. If we end up with too many ports open to Juno, we simply have to kill the mail job, and anyone on the list after the Juno subscriber doesn't receive their e-mail. We're monitoring the situation, and as soon as Juno is fixed, we'll add all those subscribers back. Thank you for your cooperation in this matter... Karen =============== This may seem self-serving and un-sympathetic, BUT it seems that certain servers that offer "free" or "very cheap" service, are constantly having problems with this sort of thing. Don't get me wrong, you are free to use whatever service you choose; however, from experience, I have found that "you get what you pay for" is not just a truism. It accurately describes the level of service that you will receive as far as your email business is concerned. I tried JUNO. Didn't like the interface or the service. Had been a Concentric Net user, almost from the inception of that service. Went back to it, of course. AOL has, of late, become almost as bad as far as email satisfaction. Why not "bite the bullet" and pay for an ISP connection, independent of AOL, CompuServe, Prodigy, JUNO, etc., etc., and ENJOY doing your email, without all the hassle? You can access a list of ISP (Internet Service Providers) at this URL: http://thelist.internet.com/ I will recommend Concentric Net as one of the most trouble- free providers on the Net/Web. Not because it happens to be the one I use, but because of recent ratings of ISP's by PC Magazine and other sources. Concentric has consistently been rated in the tot 5 of all ISP's in the country. Please check out ALL the ISP's that you find at the above URL, check the prices, what is offered, etc. There are many out there that will give you virtually trouble free service: IX.NET, SPRY.COM, COMSTAR.NET, DELPHI.COM, EARTHLINK.NET, MCI.NET, NETCOM.COM, USEMAIL.NET, etc. The above list is, in no way, an endorsement of the various ISP's, nor means that these are the only ones that are available. They are just some that subscribers to my Lists use and seem to have to have no problems with. Go to the URL above and check out ALL of them. This email is provided as a public service for those of you who are having problems with your email server. If you are not satisfied with the one you now use, check out others. SgtGeorge mailto:[email protected] George W. Durman 925 Kevin Rd. Knoxville, TN 37923-2540 (423)470-4853 BROYLES-L ListOwner CULLOP-L ListOwner CROCKETT-L ListOwner DURMAN-L ListOwner GAROUTTE-L ListOwner LOVETTE-L ListOwner WILHITE-L ListOwner WILKINSON-L ListOwner GERMANNA_COLONIES (Temporary) ListOwner CFT-WIN-L ListOwner HOMESPUN-L ListOwner RESEARCH-HOWTO-L ListOwner SURNAME-QUERY-L ListOwner BROYLES Newsgroup Moderator (alt.family-names.broyles) CULLOP Newsgroup Moderator (alt.family-names.cullop) DURMAN Newsgroup Moderator (alt.family-names.durman) WILHITE Newsgroup Moderator (alt.family-names.wilhite) BROYLES/BRILES Family History Web Page: http://www.concentric.net/~sgtgeorg/index.shtml

Cynthia Crigler posted this today on the GERMANNA_COLONIES-L List and I thought you might be interested. It does indeed explain why names have different spellings and sometimes why we have problems in our research. Can you imagine that one of your ancestors was named RACHMANINOFF? Would this person perhaps have written it down as ROCKMEOFF? ROCKETMANOFF? ROCKMANANDOFF? The possibilities are endless. SgtGeorge =========== >>Listowner Note: The following is a real note sent from a census >>taker in the 1800s to the government. This may explain why a >>lot of us have variations in the spellings of our names. LOL >> >>centsus rekurds "I am a cencus taker for the city of Bufflow. Our >>city has groan very fast in resent years and now, in 1865, it has >>becum a hard and time consooming job to count all the peephill. >>Thare is not meny that can do this werk, as it is necesarie to >>have a ejucashun, which a lot of pursons still do not have. Another >>atribeart needed for this job is good speling, for meny of the >>peephill to be caounted can hardle speek inglish, let alone spel >>there name." =========== George W. Durman [email protected]

Several subscribers have asked me how to Search the Archives for messages with specific content. Below is what I copied from the RootsWeb web site. PLEASE, read all of it before you attempt to do it yourself. Keep in mind that this message was directed to us Listowners; however, the same procedures apply to you as a subscriber. Just follow the instructions EXACTLY AS GIVEN. PLEASE, note that all the instructions are sent to the address with the "-request". If you leave out that element, your mail will just come to the List and nothing will happen To make it absolutely clear, here is an example: Send your request to: [email protected] NOT to: [email protected] (Replace WHATEVER with the name of the List you are searching.) Your Listowner, SgtGeorge ========================== Search Features for a RootsWeb Mailing List From a message posted on 8 April to the RootsWeb listowners mailing list... Searching your archives: It can be done. We've not made a lot of noise about it before because the implications for the lists with large archives, such as ROOTS-L, are a bit scary: the "search engine" that SmartList uses is the Unix grep command. So if your list has had more than 3000 messages posted, we'd rather your users did not use the SmartList search feature. But if your list has had that many messages, let us know and we'll get a WWW search up as soon as we can. See: http://searches.rootsweb.com/roots-l.search.html to see what we did for ROOTS-L and its archive of nearly 200,000 messages.) And time allowing, we'll put up WWW searches of all the public lists, no matter whether they've had 3000 messages or not. Meanwhile, most of our lists here at RootsWeb have had substantially fewer than 3000 messages posted to them. So, how do you search the archives of your list? I'm a great believer in examples. Here's the sequence for KEITHLEY-L, a non-digested mailing list. (Margaret, GEN-MARKET, being a digest, will work a bit differently. I'll try to point out the differences as I go...) Search requests are sent to the -request for the mailing list. The subject line should say archive. If I wanted to search for the name Rowland, the command I'd use would be: search Rowland latest/* Put all together, it would look like this: To: [email protected] Subject: archive -------- search Rowland latest/* The search Rowland part is probably clear. What's that latest/* on the end? Your archived messages (up to 8000 of them) are stored in an area associated with your mailing list called latest. The * is a wildcard -- it says to search all the messages for Rowland. If you had said instead search Rowland latest/1* then the search would be confined to messages whose numbers start with 1 (such as 10, 15, 111, 1254, etc.) I don't think you can specify a range -- if you wrote 23-27 it wouldn't search messages 23 through 27, it would look for a message numbered 23-27, not find it, and give up. That is, this search is kind of simple minded. But that makes it easier to use? (If the list is instead a digested list, the command instead would be: search Rowland volume97/* to search all the digests in volume97, which is where the 1997 digests are stored.) What do you get back? Something like this: From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 10:07:01 -0700 Message-Id: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: archive retrieval: search Rowland latest/* search Rowland latest/* BEGIN---------------cut here------------------ latest/12:24: Rowland family and the German Baptist Brethren church latest/16:23: My Great-grandfather, Baptist Rev. Homer Rowland of the Flatonia, Texas latest/16:24: area, was the son of Judge Robert A. Rowland and Olive Ann (Keithley) latest/16:25: Rowland of Howard County, Missouri. (Married 7 April 1846, probably in Boone latest/46:26: Thomas Rowland, Hary Grigsby and A. Grigsby, attended his funeral. After latest/47:22: His brothers and his nephews, Thomas Rowland, Harry Grigsby and A. latest/47:25: Note on this sentence: Thomas Rowland was a son of Olive Keithley Rowland, latest/47:26: wife of Robert A. Rowland. Harry and A. Grigsby were sons of Sarah Keithley What do you do with that? Well, first, note that odd "Reply-to:" line. It's bound to alarm some of your subscribers, but is actually innocuous. It's either to prevent mail loops or perhaps to make sure that the subject line, when they order the messages, isn't "Subject: Re: archive retrieval." (SmartList doesn't process messages with subject lines like that, it sends 'em straight to you.) The rest of the report is a listing of lines in which it found Rowland. (I think if you want ROWLAND you should ask for ROWLAND, though those of you who know grep might try something like search -i Rowland latest/* to see what happens). Consider this line: latest/47:26: wife of Robert A. Rowland. Harry and A. Grigsby were sons of Sarah Keithley The first bit, before the first colon, is latest/47. That says that this line is from message 47. The next bit, between the two colons, is 26 -- the line shown is the 26th line of that messages. And the rest of it is the line from the message itself. If you want to see the whole message, you can. You again write to the list's -request address, using a subject line that says: archive The command is: get latest/47 to get the 47th message (or get volume97/23 to get the 23rd digest from 1997.) SmartList is very finicky about case: get Latest/47 Will not work. Extra spaces confuse it, too -- note that there are no spaces in latest/47. Put together, the message looks something like this: To: [email protected] Subject: archive -------- get latest/47 What do I get back? See below... From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: archive retrieval: latest/47 >From [email protected] Wed Mar 26 11:21:08 1997 Received: from bl-4.rootsweb.com ([email protected] [204.212.38.29]) by bl-12.rootsweb.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA09218 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:21:08 -0800 Received: from mailrvao1.er.usgs.GOV (mailrvao1.er.usgs.gov [130.11.62.8]) by bl-4.rootsweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA23614 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:24:47 -0800 Received: from cnethaway.usgs.gov ([130.11.63.31]) by mailrvao1.er.usgs.GOV (EMAIL 1.2.1) with SMTP id OAA07353 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 14:23:47 -0500 Message-Id: <[email protected]> X-Sender: [email protected] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 14:24:40 -0500 To: [email protected] From: Charles Nethaway Subject: Joseph H. Keithley b 1823 -- cont. From the Booneville Weekly Advertiser, 16 May 1890 (Missouri) Obituary: Joseph H. Keithley, 1823-1890, Howard County, Missouri Joseph H. Keithley was born November 11, 1823, in Bourbon County, Kentucky, and died in Booneville, Missouri, May 12, 1890. ... His brothers and his nephews, Thomas Rowland, Harry Grigsby and A. Grigsby, attended his funeral. ... Note on this sentence: Thomas Rowland was a son of Olive Keithley Rowland, wife of Robert A. Rowland. Harry and A. Grigsby were sons of Sarah Keithley Grigsby, wife of A.H. Grigsby of Fayette, Howard, Missouri. Olive and Sarah were sisters of Joseph.