Mary, Vikky here...To answer your question about Lucinda Wilburn and her Seaborn husband.... ALAS! I buzzed all over the internet before replying hoping that I could pick up something. And I did find some things of slight interest, but nothing close to being able to tell you anything concrete. So sorry! But I will keep you in mind for future thoughts...What I need to do is look at your posting history and see if I can gleam some clues...didn't do that yet. If I find anything interesting, I'll get right back to you. Cheers, Vikky ----- Original Message ----- From: Marykell@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 7:36 PM To: WILBURN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILBURN-L] Re: Seaborn TUCKER and Margaret COBB In a message dated 11/30/02 11:19:35 PM !!!First Boot!!!, vikkya@msn.com writes: > Does anyone know IF Seaborn Tucker connects in any way to the family of > Seaborn Wilburn? Hi Vikky, I still have Lucinda Wilburn that m: "Mr." Seaborn, c: 1810, VA. Have you found anything on this couple? Mary ==== WILBURN Mailing List ==== To search the Wilburn-L archives, go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Vikky Here: Just to keep everyone confused. That's my job! I am very uncertain how Wilburn Wireman's parents decided on his name. Any ideas???? But here are some of the families that connect to this Wireman family. CHAMP/Wilburn................connects to family of Edward S Wilburn of Surry NC and one of his sons who later died in Cumberland, Co KY.....same Champ family as noted in history, trekking with Daniel Boone. Hager Champ Hager/Wireman allied in IN Wilburn Wireman http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?wilburn::wireman::104.html Anyone know anything about these families? Thanks!

In a message dated 11/30/02 11:19:35 PM !!!First Boot!!!, vikkya@msn.com writes: > Does anyone know IF Seaborn Tucker connects in any way to the family of > Seaborn Wilburn? Hi Vikky, I still have Lucinda Wilburn, b: c 1784, m: "Mr." Seaborn, c: 1810, possibly TN. Have you found anything on this couple? Mary

In a message dated 11/30/02 11:19:35 PM !!!First Boot!!!, vikkya@msn.com writes: > Does anyone know IF Seaborn Tucker connects in any way to the family of > Seaborn Wilburn? Hi Vikky, I still have Lucinda Wilburn that m: "Mr." Seaborn, c: 1810, VA. Have you found anything on this couple? Mary

This is a long shot here. Does anyone know IF Seaborn Tucker connects in any way to the family of Seaborn Wilburn? Please note, this family has roots in Rowan Co NC and reportedly roots in MD before then. We know that Wilburns/Tuckers were kin in some fashion... Cobbs and Wilburns?????? anyhow have any of these ancestors? Thanks heaps, Vikky vikkya@msn.com http://genforum.genealogy.com/tucker/messages/6843.html

Does anyone know anything about this family? One would strongly suspect that the Tucker/Wilburn family was related to Wilburn Gibson. Thomas Wilburn aka known as Thomas Gibson was noted in Lousia Co Va in 1747. Any ideas???? Thanks much, Vikky http://genforum.genealogy.com/gibson/messages/9423.html

Anyone know anything about this family? Thanks Vikky http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?wilburn::tucker::4355.html

Anyone know anything about this family? Thanks, Vikky http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?wilburn::tucker::1683.html

I am looking for information on Col. C.C. (Christopher Columbus) Wilbourn. He was born in Union Co. S.C. in 1834, father was William Roundtree Wilbourn. C.C. Wilbourn was commanding officer of the 4th Mississippi Cavalry CSA during the Civil War. He lived in Sardis, Panola Co, Ms. His wife was Quince Anna Shaw.

Vikky here. These documents from Fauquier and also Frederick Co VA were sent to me by researcher Ginny WHITE Keefer. And a wonderful THANK YOU To Melba for posting her HUGE Welborn database. I cannot imagine how many thousands of hours it took to put this work together. And a special thanks to Ann Gahan too, for her many years of great research contributions to this effort! Is this a treasure, or what????? ----- Original Message ----- From: Ginny Keefer Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 11:39 AM To: Vikky Anders Subject: Re: Wilburn Abstracts of Wills, Administrations and Marriages of Fauquier O VA, 1759-1800 by J. Estelle Stewart King,1986, p. 72 1770 Rent rolls Edward Wilburn Fauquier Co VA Deed, 1759-1778, compiled by John K. Gott, 1988, Deed Book 2, 1763-1767 p 395-396 in DB2 23 October, 1765. Mortgage. John Darnal to Francis Tennell//for l47...security unto Gavin Lawson of Falmouth, King George Co..merchant...150 acres..whereon I now live..bounded by lands of Gowen Corbin,dec'd, Mortgage Darnall & Wm. Smith...cattle, household furniture..articles to revert to sd. Darnall upon repayment of above debt. Signed: John Darnall. Wit; Wm. Pinchard, EDWARD WILBURN. Rec. 26 May 1766. Ack.by John Darnall. Deed Book 2, pp 315-316. 9 October 1764. Mortgage between EDWARD WILBURN and Alexander Woodrow & John Neilson of Falmouth, Merchants, L 56.17s.2d...tract.... 135 1/2 acres... bounded on the West by Col. Gavin Corbin''s tract, on the South by Capt. Housing Kinner's tract on the North and West by the Marsh Run...same bought of Winfield Wright in or about the year 1759...to be void by payment of above plus interest by 1 October, 1765...Signed Edward [u] Wilborn. Wit; Adam Steuart, James Blain, William Love. Rec. 25 March, 1765, proved by oath of William Love. Deed Book 1, 1759-1763 pp 451-454 10 April, 1763. Lists Edward Wilburn's land adjoins Tennel's land. *** Pioneers of Old Frederick Co VA by Cecil O'Dell, 1995, page 131 William Williams on 27 July 1738 filed a "Suit by Complaint" against 54 defendants for "signing a Scandalous paper reflecting on the Complaintiff" [Williams} The following defendants " humbly acknowledged their Error, begging pardon, were excused paying their Costs". included William Wilburn and Samuel Britton. ** There was a William White with first wife Rose and second wife Suzanne whose descendants ended up in TN and other places that lived in Frederick Co. That is very close to Fauquier Co and many went there too. I have more on that White famiy if you ever need it and the Britton family who married into the White family with Boggs family tie. Mostly Quakers. Later, Ginny K >From the beautiful great lakes state of Michigan, Have a great day!

The following comes from my database. Some is verified, but not all. 1. Mary White b c 1720 m Elisha Wallen b 1708...Lots of Wallen/waller/Wilburn marriages followed. 2. Mary White b c 1755 m James CARR Wallen b July 27, 1751 Henry Co Va and LATER died on Wilson Creek in Montgomery Co VA... 3. John White b c 1795 m Anna Champ ...(note that descendant of Edward S Wilburn of Surry NC) also married into the Champ family as noted in will of Edward's son Thomas Wilburn of Cumberland Co KY. 4. Jemina White m Zachariah Wilburn Jan 20 1786 in Surry co NC...Zachiarah Wilburn was another son of Edward Wilburn of Surry co NC, formerly of Granville NC and FAUQUIER CO VA BEFORE THAT) 5. Agnes White b c 1725 m William Sherrill b 1723 in Cecil Co MD. Wm died in Lincoln co NC.. later Wilburn Shrerrill was noted as b in NC. 6. John White b c 1773 m Susannah Marcus 1796 in Giles, VA....(appears to be related to White family in Fauquier Co VA...John White was related to Landon Duncan who was from Fauquier Co VA and who also had an Uncle named Phillip Duncan of Stokes Co NC...Some of the letters between Uncle and nephew are in VA State Library... 7. Suzannah White m Elias Welborn who was b 1837 8. Robert Lee White b c 1865 m Elizabeth Polk Wilburn ...Robert died in Ft Worth TX...Eliz is a descendant of Edward S Wilburn of Surry Co NC who died in 1806 and whose roots are in Fauquier Co VA... 9. Helen White m Cephas Wilburn b 1885 in Lincoln Co OK 10 Mary White m John Wilburn of VA (possible from Halifax, VA). White family was from Halifax, VA...were related to Duncan family and later lived in Davidson co TN and by 1850 in MO... Anything ring a bell??? Let me know...Thanks vikky@msn.com

Does anyone know anything about this family???? ----- Original Message ----- From: Ginny Keefer Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 10:06 AM To: vikkya@msn.com Subject: White/Wilburn Hi again. I searched my data base and found; Carr Bailey Jr. b bet 1788-1803 VA died aft 1819 Andrew Co MO md Nancy Wilburn Carr was son of Carr Bailey b 1746 Fauquier Co VA and wife Mary Ann Turner Sarah J. Wilburn married Ira Dodson White b Apr 4, 1829 TN, d June 16, 1903 Lawrence Co TN. Ira was son of David W. White b 1781 NC, d Oct 28, 1862 Lawrence Co TN md Sarah ___ David W. White is said to be a son of William White ????? No wife listed. Other children said to be of this William White were; 1. George 2. Rueben 3. John Franklin md Mary Foster, lived later in Lawrence Co TN 4. James O. 5. Edward 6. Baker Any of these names ring a bell with you? Later, Ginny >From the beautiful great lakes state of Michigan, Have a great day!

Smoots of Henry County, VA and later Ashe/Wilkes of NC. No obvious Wilburn connection, but tied to the Shumates and associated families. You know Vikky, as often as the Shumates and Wilburns shared localities, you'd think there would be more intermarriages between them ! ! ! Thanks Beth __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

>From Vikky. I am in awe of the research done by the person who posted this historical genealogy data. And I wanted to share this wonderful bit of work with all Wilburn researchers. The information posted is a treasure! BUT do not look for names of any Wilburns, Welborns regardless of spelling...Alas! Not there. But there ARE hidden Wilburns all over the place...They just did not get captured in spite of this very extensive research project. But many of the families noted as descendants of Capt Thomas Graves and their allied families ARE the same ancestors that some of us Wilburns also share today. And the beginning of this narrative is rich in early VA history. Keep in mind that the vast majority of us Wilburns in America today, have ancestors who were eye witnesses to unfolding events almost from the onset of the founding of our great Nation. As history notes, there were less than 2500 souls in VA by 1623. Capt Richard Wlborun was cited in VA as early as 1624. History also notes that there were approximately 5000 colonists in all of VA by 1635. William Wilburn, indentured servant is recorded by 1636 followed by other early Wilburns cited in 'Cavaliers and Pioneers', Nell Nugent's massive volumes of early VA settlers. another Richard Wilburn (probable not the same person since longevity was in short supply during the early years) was Richard Wilburn in York Co VA in 1656...And Samuel Welborn and Robert Wilburn also noted as servants in VA in 1652 and 1654. I jotted down some surnames in this narrative that are also from the same families that some of our Wilburn ancestors married into. Please note that I did not jot down the most common surnames... I hope that those of you who take the time to review this post will find it worth your while. There was a least one Graves/Wilburn (early marriage in VA) You might wish to look and see if any of these surnames are included in your own research. GRAVES WILLIAM WILBURN M MARY GRAVES 1744 IN VA CALVERT STONE BELT..................WILLIAM BELT WILBURN OF CARTER KY SMOOT DAVENPORT........... BOSTICK EAST/FITZPATRICK/COCKERHAM/WILBURN SATTERWHITE............MARRIAGE TO WELBORNS WHO DESCEND FROM WM WELBORN AND ANN CRABTREE HIGGENBOTTAM.......MARRIAGE TO WILBURNS WHO DESCEND FROM EDWARD S WILBURN OF SURRY NC HUDSON Here's the post vikkyA@msn.com http://www.gravesfa.org/gen169.htm

You are quite right - also Mulungeons and Indians were listed as Mulatto sometimes in our census. It was only a person traveling along doing the census enumerations - it wasn't a perfectionist - our census records are a secondary proof. And how about the "Dark Irish" families? Happy Holidays, Jeanette. 11/28/02 -0600, you wrote: >Very interesting posting, Mildred. I've never posted before, but I have done >a great deal of research in Census Records, etc. I know you're very thorough >in your research as a lot of us are, but just because they were listed as >"Mulatto" does NOT always truly mean they were part of the black race. A lot >of the time it was the Census Enumerators that decided what color they were >and terribly misjudged as to what race they really were. However in saying >that, the Enumerators were only allowed basically 3 choices of what to enter >for race... White, Black or Mulatto. > >There were white slaves as well with various shades of skin color that were >listed as "Mulatto". And when slaves were allowed their freedom, a lot of >them took on their former Masters surname since they didn't have one. This >really does need further research. > >I just thought I'd point out this little tidbit of information for others to >know about while researching. I have a long list of colors that have been >entered into court records and mostly because of the Enumerators first and >we all know about their erroneous errors in spelling alone. Now actually >proving if they were of two different races is another story all together. I >hope I have helped some of you. > >Have a Good Day Researchers, > Betty Donahoe > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <M6907SPENCER@aol.com> >To: <WILBURN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 5:37 AM >Subject: Re: [WILBURN-L] Re: Surname Short - in Delaware > > >While researching Wilburns I have run across several black researchers on >the message boards. You might try contacting them for information. They >might know who their owners were. > >Carroll Co. AR lists slave owners and gives ages, gender, but no first >names. Wm. W. Wilburn had nine slaves listed and all were Mulatto. So, we >must have some black relatives out there. > >Try typing Slaves in AR or Slaves in NC or Slaves in VA. > Mildred Wilburn Spencer > > >==== WILBURN Mailing List ==== > To post a message to the list, address it to Wilburn-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > >==== WILBURN Mailing List ==== > To search the Wilburn-L archives, go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Very interesting posting, Mildred. I've never posted before, but I have done a great deal of research in Census Records, etc. I know you're very thorough in your research as a lot of us are, but just because they were listed as "Mulatto" does NOT always truly mean they were part of the black race. A lot of the time it was the Census Enumerators that decided what color they were and terribly misjudged as to what race they really were. However in saying that, the Enumerators were only allowed basically 3 choices of what to enter for race... White, Black or Mulatto. There were white slaves as well with various shades of skin color that were listed as "Mulatto". And when slaves were allowed their freedom, a lot of them took on their former Masters surname since they didn't have one. This really does need further research. I just thought I'd point out this little tidbit of information for others to know about while researching. I have a long list of colors that have been entered into court records and mostly because of the Enumerators first and we all know about their erroneous errors in spelling alone. Now actually proving if they were of two different races is another story all together. I hope I have helped some of you. Have a Good Day Researchers, Betty Donahoe ----- Original Message ----- From: <M6907SPENCER@aol.com> To: <WILBURN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 5:37 AM Subject: Re: [WILBURN-L] Re: Surname Short - in Delaware While researching Wilburns I have run across several black researchers on the message boards. You might try contacting them for information. They might know who their owners were. Carroll Co. AR lists slave owners and gives ages, gender, but no first names. Wm. W. Wilburn had nine slaves listed and all were Mulatto. So, we must have some black relatives out there. Try typing Slaves in AR or Slaves in NC or Slaves in VA. Mildred Wilburn Spencer ==== WILBURN Mailing List ==== To post a message to the list, address it to Wilburn-L@rootsweb.com

While researching Wilburns I have run across several black researchers on the message boards. You might try contacting them for information. They might know who their owners were. Carroll Co. AR lists slave owners and gives ages, gender, but no first names. Wm. W. Wilburn had nine slaves listed and all were Mulatto. So, we must have some black relatives out there. Try typing Slaves in AR or Slaves in NC or Slaves in VA. Mildred Wilburn Spencer

Captain Wm. Twitty married Susannah Beller in KY. Wm. Twitty, Jr. born in NC m. Frances Rhodes Lewis from VA Robert Graves Twitty m. Mary Logan Wm. Lewis Twitty born NC m. Sarah D. Miller Susannah's parents were from PA and her lineage was from Germany. There were several Wilburn/Beller marriages: My great grandfather, James Johnson Wilburn, m. Mary E. Beller I don't have her parent's names. Martha Lovina Wilburn m. Wm. E. Beller s/o Eli Beller from VA and Mary Polly Campbell from NC. Nellie Rector m. Robert Taylor Moore, s/o Wm. Patton Moore and Sarah Bennett Murdock. This is on the Snodgrass/Whitaker and Murdock/Lee side of the family. My grandmother Martha Ann Snodgrass born VA m. Wm. Warren Wilburn II born. AR I don't have parent's for Nellie Rector or any other information. Pleas H. Harris born TN m. Martha Ann Wilburn d/o Wm. Smith Wilburn and Emily Adeline Jones in AR Robert L. Harris born 1879 m. Riller Wilburn Boone Co. AR I don't have parents for either one of these Harris men. These are the only surnames from the list you posted that are in my database. Hope you get some better connections from other researchers. Mildred Wilburn Spencer

This post I thought was interesting. This is from an African American researcher...And the names of her ancestors are interesting. Names that connect to Wilburns of NC...since most slaves inherited their surnames from owners, this is something to explore. Wish only that I knew where to begin. Any thoughts out there??? Cheers, Vikky http://genforum.genealogy.com/short/messages/3655.html

Mildred, Your information is WONDERFUL! JUST GREAT! You have always been so helpful and I want you to know how much I appreciate this too! As you know, I have been working for years trying to figure out IF and how our various Wilburn and Welborn families connect. I am just starting to get some breakthroughs. It's been a real slow learning process, but one that I enjoy thanks in large measure to good hearted people like you. I have a lot more work to do to put these pieces of this big puzzle all together. Not that I will ever be able to find everything that I would like to find, but thanks to people like you on the internet who freely share, I am really making some progress. Right now I am working on the Lunenburg VA Wilburns and the Mechlenburg, VA Wilburns and they are related and are also related to the other Wilburn famiiles in VA too. And are also related to those in NC too... As you know just about all of the Wilburns living in America today have colonial VA ancestors...I would estimate about 95% of Wilburns today have early colonial roots... I have little knowledge of these later Wilburn families who settled into GA, SC, TX, AR, AL and other places...but by us all working together and helping each other we can begin to learn who are earlier ancestors in VA were. And its always exciting to find new ancestors, right? So I will definitely add new info as I uncover it and post on the website. Again, many thanks. A very Happy Thanksgiving to you. Warmest regards, Vikky Just how they are related is the big puzzle, but slow ----- Original Message ----- From: M6907SPENCER@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 5:52 PM To: WILBURN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILBURN-L] Wilburns and allied families Captain Wm. Twitty married Susannah Beller in KY. Wm. Twitty, Jr. born in NC m. Frances Rhodes Lewis from VA Robert Graves Twitty m. Mary Logan Wm. Lewis Twitty born NC m. Sarah D. Miller Susannah's parents were from PA and her lineage was from Germany. There were several Wilburn/Beller marriages: My great grandfather, James Johnson Wilburn, m. Mary E. Beller I don't have her parent's names. Martha Lovina Wilburn m. Wm. E. Beller s/o Eli Beller from VA and Mary Polly Campbell from NC. Nellie Rector m. Robert Taylor Moore, s/o Wm. Patton Moore and Sarah Bennett Murdock. This is on the Snodgrass/Whitaker and Murdock/Lee side of the family. My grandmother Martha Ann Snodgrass born VA m. Wm. Warren Wilburn II born. AR I don't have parent's for Nellie Rector or any other information. Pleas H. Harris born TN m. Martha Ann Wilburn d/o Wm. Smith Wilburn and Emily Adeline Jones in AR Robert L. Harris born 1879 m. Riller Wilburn Boone Co. AR I don't have parents for either one of these Harris men. These are the only surnames from the list you posted that are in my database. Hope you get some better connections from other researchers. Mildred Wilburn Spencer ==== WILBURN Mailing List ==== To search the Wilburn-L archives, go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl