This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wEC.2ACE/1389.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Carolyn, Wanted to let you know after all this time what I found out about my "elusive" ancestor, Norris N. Phillips of Plymouth, Juneau Co., WI. I finally received his pension files from the NARA, confirming his parents names, who were my gr-grandparents! Personal data contained in these files, answered my questions as to his whereabouts since he was last known to be in Ellisburg, Jefferson Co. NY., in the 1850 Census at age 15, until his death in 1892 at age 58 and burial in Ellisburg, NY. I learned he moved to Wisconsin with another family from Ellisburg in 1854 as hired help and married there in 1857. It was ironic, but in late Feb 1892, he traveled to Ellisburg to see his mother who was ill and had not seen for many years. Affidavits from witnesses state while he was visiting other family members that lived in Pamelia, Jefferson Co., NY., he died of chronic heart failure on March 08, 1892!! I was able to obtain his death record from there, for further confirmation. (his mother, my gr-grandmother, died in 1895). In another affidavit, Martha D. Phillips, his widow in Plymouth, Juneau Co., WI., states due to hardships she was unable to transport him back to WI. for burial. Therefore he was buried by his family in Ellisb! urg, NY. Mystery solved! Martha (Carr) Phillips applied for a widows pension on Dec. 27, 1892 and again in 1897. She died Feb 04, 1914 in Elroy City, Juneau Co., WI., when her pension stopped. They had one daughter, Laura, who married Charles A. Green in 1881, Elroy, WI. I have obtained a copy of their marriage record from the Wisconsin Historical Society in Madison, WI. I would like to pass on all the data I have gathered of him to his descendents, including a copy of a land grant signed by President Ulysses S. Grant on Oct. 01, 1869. So, my search continues......... Note- Norris was my gr-uncle - my paternal gr-grandparents were Alonzo Phillips and Lavinia (Fillmore) Phillips. They had 10 children all born NY, whom I'm trying to research for a family page. Lavinia Fillmore was a 2nd cousin of President Millard Fillmore. Appreciated your past help with data of Census's and other info of the Carr's, Martha's family, which will give me much to work with. Regards, Julia (Phillips) Lewis a gr-grandma in OH