This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Manthei/Zerbel/Zabel/Turk Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/mEC.2ACE/46.126 Message Board Post: There was a close association between the Zerbels and the Manthei's. At the least they had to be neighbors and at the closest they were possibly related. The Zerbels came from Province of Posen in 1884, a village called Nakel/Naklo. There were Manthei's there also. I am not sure but I think Arnswalde is where some of these families lived before going to the Netze River valley. My grandfather Zaabel who immigrated in 1894 was possibly from Arnswalde and he married into the Zerbel family. My great-great grandfather was born in Callies, Pomerania. These people were Missouri synod Lutherans and there are records of them in these papers. The church records in St. John's, Missouri synod, and an older church has some records. This is not very specific because I don't have enough information. The name Alwine is appearing in my Zerbel/Turk genealogy, so the location of the birthplace of Alwine may be a clue.