This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/1016.1.1 Message Board Post: Mary wrote, " Do you know whether Frances was still living when Gordon died in 1986?"- Yes- the info I have is from Gordon Smith's obituary in the Platteville paper circa 1986, and his death certificate. That is all I have to date. "Do you have any idea when she was born?"- no, that was not mentioned in the obituary. He was also survived by Mrs Gabriel (Charlotte) Morales of Big Bear Lake, CA. "Have you already checked whitepages.com to see if Frances is listed?" Yes, no listing. If not, you can check for her and get her exact death date at: "http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/" i am checking this, thank you! Mark