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    1. [WIGRANT] CENSUS/FAULL AGAIN/ANY YEAR
    2. SandysSerchin'
    3. Would someone be able to look up William and Mary Faull of Grant Co or surrounding county in the census, I am not picky of the year as long as it is after 1875. Her maiden name was Kinney and she was born in VT. She is listed on her obit as being born in 1817, which I think is wrong, and is why I would like to look at census for her. Being that she was married in 1875 in Grant Co and she lived til 1927, this age is doubtfull. Her middle initial is J and his is R. I would appreciate any help on this. Even if someone could find her in WI as her maiden name Mary J Kinney brother Vernon. Thanks, Sandy ps It also states in the obit her nephew, U W Beeman. He was born about the time Nuate/Nate Beeman and DAVID TAFT Do you thing the Nuate could have been Uriah W Beeman? I found him in census with Henry after Mary Faull Jewell Beeman's passing. Thanks again Sandy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Researching JEFFERS, NEWTON, BLANCHARD, RACEY, SCOTT, MANN, JEWELL, BEEMAN, FAULL, McCLOUD, CROW, HOLEMAN, TURNER, FULLER, KINNEY, LIAS, NORTON, OBERMIRE, PRITCHARD, FOWLER AND ATTEBERRY NY, IA, WI, OR, AZ, ENGLAND and IRELAND. and FERNANDEZ, SANCHEZ, LOPEZ, TRIGUERO, CASTRO From Spain>Hawaii>CA --- WIGRANT-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >Part: 1 >From : >To : >Date : >Subject : > ><pre>WIGRANT-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 49 > >Today's Topics: > #1 [WIGRANT] More Census Tips &amp; Distr [&quot;David W. Taft&quot; &lt;dtaft@cowtown.net] > #2 Re: [WIGRANT] More Census Tips &amp; D [Mari &lt;ddmmjm@netins.net&gt;] > #3 Re: [WIGRANT] More Census Tips &amp; D [KinDetective@aol.com] > #4 [WIGRANT] Re: unsubscribe [CMNation@aol.com] > #5 Re: unsubscribe [CMNation@aol.com] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from WIGRANT-D, send a message to > > WIGRANT-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >To contact the list administrator, send mail to >WIGRANT-admin@rootsweb.com. > >______________________________</pre>Part: 2 >From : "David W. Taft" <dtaft@cowtown.net> > >To : WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com > >Date : Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:39:21 -0600 > >Subject : [WIGRANT] More Census Tips & District No. 24 > > ><pre>Di &amp; List, > >I guess Census is the topic of the day. It is a good one and a primary >source for all researchers. > >A couple of additional comments based on my &quot;lessons learned&quot; from the >census. > >First, the census films available from the LDS are the same as those from >the National Archives. The LDS didn't film any of the federal census >records. All of their films are copies of the originals done by the >Archives (NARA). The LDS have filmed many off-year state census records. > >The census indexes on Ancestry.Com and/or from most books for 1790-1860 >are >90% from those done by Ron Jackson's company, Accelerated Indexing Systems >(AIS) of Ogden/Logan?? Utah. So far as I know, Ron's company closed or >something years ago. It was a private indexing service and Ancestry >purchased his database at some point. I can't locate the paper written >on >them, but it explains that these, like most &quot;human&quot; transcribed records, >contain many errors. > >They are very well done, but probably are missing about 5% or so of the >actual records. I have found that personally while looking for my GGG >Grandfather Benjamin E. Taft in the 1860 Ohio census index. He is there, >but he's not found in the index. > >Another problem is page numbers. I have found many irregularies, >particularly in the 1860 indexes. Many families are 3-4 pages off of what >the index says. Below is a web site I located with a bit of data on the >AIS >indexes: > ><A HREF="http://members.aol.com/dearmyrtle/ais.htm" target="_new">http://members.aol.com/dearmyrtle/ais.htm</A> > >A quote it has says: > >&quot;Regarding the page numbers indicated in the AIS Indexes -- use them as >a >&quot;loose&quot; guide. The census microfilms I've reviewed have three different >page >numbers listed on each page. Its easy to get confused, and it seems the >AIS >indexers sometimes used one, and then another of those numbers. Sometimes, >the actual census entry was a page or two before or after the page indicated >in the index. So I'd say -- &quot;Be flexible!&quot; > > >I have personally experienced the &quot;what page number is this&quot; syndrome over >the years. There are numbers on the pages written by the enumerators, >others stamped on the pages, and yet other's handwritten on the pages when >they were bound. Our ancestors made this a challenge for us. It gives >one >a headache at times. > >In recent years Heritage Quest has published many indexes for the 1870 >census. They have accomplished a daunting task and their indexes are quite >good. > >Of course, the 1880 &quot;all-name&quot; census index/full transcription done by the >LDS is the best. For $49 (including shipping) you get some 56 CD's with >over 50 million names. These are searchable by name nationally and by >state. Most, if not all, LDS family history centers have these CD's. Or >you can order the set from <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org." target="_new">http://www.familysearch.org.</A> Click on >Order/Download Products. The order number is 50168000. > >Speaking of 1850 Grant Co., some years ago I was sent the following >&quot;definition&quot; of District #24 in Grant Co: Some of the townships in District >24 are the areas of Mt. Hope, Patch Grove, Bloomington, Little Grant, >Liberty, Lancaster, Hurricane, Beetown, North Andover, Waterloo, British >Hollow, Potosi, Tennyson, Glen Haven, Cassville. > >Please share any good census searching articles you locate and I will do >the >same. I have seen several over the years, but can't recall if they were >on-line, in genealogy books, or in genealogy periodicals. > >Dave Taft > >______________________________</pre>Part: 3 >From : Mari <ddmmjm@netins.net> > >To : WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com > >Date : Thu, 07 Feb 2002 22:44:16 -0600 > >Subject : Re: [WIGRANT] More Census Tips & District No. 24 > > ><pre>Dave, thanks. I appreciate your expertise, and your spot on this list! >:)) > >Mari > > >At 10:39 PM 2/7/02 , David W. Taft wrote: >&gt;Di &amp; List, >&gt; >&gt;I guess Census is the topic of the day. It is a good one and a primary >&gt;source for all researchers. >&gt; >&gt;A couple of additional comments based on my &quot;lessons learned&quot; from the >&gt;census. >&gt; >&gt;First, the census films available from the LDS are the same as those from >&gt;the National Archives. The LDS didn't film any of the federal census >&gt;records. All of their films are copies of the originals done by the >&gt;Archives (NARA). The LDS have filmed many off-year state census records. >&gt; >&gt;The census indexes on Ancestry.Com and/or from most books for 1790-1860 >are >&gt;90% from those done by Ron Jackson's company, Accelerated Indexing Systems >&gt;(AIS) of Ogden/Logan?? Utah. So far as I know, Ron's company closed or >&gt;something years ago. It was a private indexing service and Ancestry >&gt;purchased his database at some point. I can't locate the paper written >on >&gt;them, but it explains that these, like most &quot;human&quot; transcribed records, >&gt;contain many errors. >&gt; >&gt;They are very well done, but probably are missing about 5% or so of the >&gt;actual records. I have found that personally while looking for my GGG >&gt;Grandfather Benjamin E. Taft in the 1860 Ohio census index. He is there, >&gt;but he's not found in the index. >&gt; >&gt;Another problem is page numbers. I have found many irregularies, >&gt;particularly in the 1860 indexes. Many families are 3-4 pages off of what >&gt;the index says. Below is a web site I located with a bit of data on the >AIS >&gt;indexes: >&gt; >&gt;<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/dearmyrtle/ais.htm" target="_new">http://members.aol.com/dearmyrtle/ais.htm</A> >&gt; >&gt;A quote it has says: >&gt; >&gt;&quot;Regarding the page numbers indicated in the AIS Indexes -- use them as >a >&gt;&quot;loose&quot; guide. The census microfilms I've reviewed have three different >page >&gt;numbers listed on each page. Its easy to get confused, and it seems the >AIS >&gt;indexers sometimes used one, and then another of those numbers. Sometimes, >&gt;the actual census entry was a page or two before or after the page indicated >&gt;in the index. So I'd say -- &quot;Be flexible!&quot; >&gt; >&gt; >&gt;I have personally experienced the &quot;what page number is this&quot; syndrome over >&gt;the years. There are numbers on the pages written by the enumerators, >&gt;others stamped on the pages, and yet other's handwritten on the pages when >&gt;they were bound. Our ancestors made this a challenge for us. It gives >one >&gt;a headache at times. >&gt; >&gt;In recent years Heritage Quest has published many indexes for the 1870 >&gt;census. They have accomplished a daunting task and their indexes are quite >&gt;good. >&gt; >&gt;Of course, the 1880 &quot;all-name&quot; census index/full transcription done by >the >&gt;LDS is the best. For $49 (including shipping) you get some 56 CD's with >&gt;over 50 million names. These are searchable by name nationally and by >&gt;state. Most, if not all, LDS family history centers have these CD's. >Or >&gt;you can order the set from <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org." target="_new">http://www.familysearch.org.</A> Click on >&gt;Order/Download Products. The order number is 50168000. >&gt; >&gt;Speaking of 1850 Grant Co., some years ago I was sent the following >&gt;&quot;definition&quot; of District #24 in Grant Co: Some of the townships in District >&gt;24 are the areas of Mt. Hope, Patch Grove, Bloomington, Little Grant, >&gt;Liberty, Lancaster, Hurricane, Beetown, North Andover, Waterloo, British >&gt;Hollow, Potosi, Tennyson, Glen Haven, Cassville. >&gt; >&gt;Please share any good census searching articles you locate and I will do >the >&gt;same. I have seen several over the years, but can't recall if they were >&gt;on-line, in genealogy books, or in genealogy periodicals. >&gt; >&gt;Dave Taft >&gt; >&gt; >&gt;============================== >&gt;To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >&gt;go to: >&gt;<A HREF="http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&amp;sourceid=1237" target="_new">http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&amp;sourceid=1237</A> > >______________________________</pre>Part: 4 >From : KinDetective@aol.com > >To : WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com > >Date : Fri, 8 Feb 2002 00:17:56 EST > >Subject : Re: [WIGRANT] More Census Tips & District No. 24 -very helpful! > > ><pre>Dave, your post was chock full of wisdom and tips, as usual. Thank you. >As per your suggestion, I did scope out Cyndi's lists and found a great >essay >site which gives a very detailed explanation of the &quot;History of Enumeration > >Procedures, 1790-1940&quot;, that I'm enjoying reading, though, at this late >hour, >will have to continue tomorrow. I doubt that there is a definitive >answer to >my original question, other than possibly how you listed the >townships of >district #24. Perhaps, in lieu of, or until an educational >response from >NARA microfilm experts (or LDS), that's the way to proceed >for all early >bundled locations, throughout the country. I certainly have >learned to take >notes for future. > >Thanks loads to all who have contributed and continue to hunt for helpful > >tips, and especially to Dave for all the time he generously invests in his > >fellow researchers! >Di > > Here's that essay, >History of Enumeration Procedures, 1790-1940 > <A HREF="http://www.ipums.umn.edu/~pipums/voliii/enumproc1.html" target="_new">http://www.ipums.umn.edu/~pipums/voliii/enumproc1.html</A> > >Partial Quote; from the site Introduction: > >&quot;Diana L. Magnuson > > This essay presents a short history of enumeration practices from 1790 > >to 1940. It aims to describe those aspects related to organization, >personnel, >and oversight that might have affected the outcome of the census >as reflected >in the manuscript returns. > The essay does not cover the processing of the returns, only the >elements >that affected the manuscripts from which the modern census samples >were >created. The essay is divided into four parts: personnel recruitment and > >quality, training and oversight, public preparedness for the census, and > >mechanisms for correcting the final returns. > Most of the material >contained here is derived from Diana L. Magnuson, >Magnuson, &quot;The Making >of a Modern Census: The United States Census of >Population, 1790-1940,&quot; >Ph.D. dissertation, University of Minnesota, 1995. >The various sources >for this essay are cited there. &quot; > >______________________________</pre>Part: 5 >From : CMNation@aol.com > >To : WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com > >Date : Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:13:34 EST > >Subject : [WIGRANT] Re: unsubscribe > > ><pre>unsubscribe > >______________________________</pre>Part: 6 >From : CMNation@aol.com > >To : WIGRANT-D@rootsweb.com > >Date : Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:13:32 EST > >Subject : Re: unsubscribe > > ><pre>unsubscribe ></pre> _____________________________________________________________ Sign up for FREE email from The PI Directory at http://www.pi-directory.com

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