For those of you who are not familiar with a wonderful group, Rootsweb sponsors the website of the Ship Transcribers' Guild - hundreds of volunteers who are transcribing all the immigrant manifests that are on microfilm at the NARA. Their website is: istg.rootsweb.com. The information that was recorded on the manifests are varied- some as little as a name and age, others with the entire family, where they are coming from and to whence they are going, children, etc. In a lightbulb moment, I put in a town in Hanover, Germany from where I know many of my immigrants came and ended up in Grant County, Wisconsin. While not exactly the relatives I am looking for -- Buddes, Mullers, etc., (and the guild has only completed about 5000 out of hundreds of thousands), I noted that these ships left Bremen and their port of arrival was New Orleans. (My time period is 1830s-1860s.) Another google search on Hannover and Hanover arrivals all indicate the same routes. This information totally disrupting my assumption that the arrivals would have been in New York. My question is: do any of you have any information about the German arrivals -- if they tended to head out for New Orleans and then, make their way up north, perhaps by river? Any information, anecdotal or otherwise, would be appreciated. Mary Helen Miller --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup

I received this information from a relative of mine who is doing research on the German immigration to Grant County. the "Bickenriede Connection". He said: "I kept coming across these families who came from the area around Bickenriede, landed in New Orleans, came up the Mississippi (most changing riverboats in St. Louis), and then proceeding to Dubuque. There was some type of "German Immigration Office" in New Orleans who helped the incoming Germans. Then in St. Louis, there were land barons who sold farming parcels in Wisconsin. Some of the more wealthy immigrants apparently purchased their land from these barons." When researching my relatives, with the help of my aunt, I found that my relatives also came from Germany, (Pfaffenstaff?) and through her research had stated that they assumed one couple came together after being married in Germany. I later found their marriage license listed at Ancestry.com. They were married in St. Louis. That is what tipped me off, that maybe these people were landing in New Orleans instead of New York. My relatives also came over in the period from 1830-1860. Just a tidbit to add to the mystery! Aleise Oyen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Helen Miller" <mhelenmiller@yahoo.com> To: <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:04 AM Subject: Unidentified subject! > > For those of you who are not familiar with a wonderful group, Rootsweb sponsors the website of the Ship Transcribers' Guild - hundreds of volunteers who are transcribing all the immigrant manifests that are on microfilm at the NARA. Their website is: istg.rootsweb.com. The information that was recorded on the manifests are varied- some as little as a name and age, others with the entire family, where they are coming from and to whence they are going, children, etc. > In a lightbulb moment, I put in a town in Hanover, Germany from where I know many of my immigrants came and ended up in Grant County, Wisconsin. While not exactly the relatives I am looking for -- Buddes, Mullers, etc., (and the guild has only completed about 5000 out of hundreds of thousands), I noted that these ships left Bremen and their port of arrival was New Orleans. (My time period is 1830s-1860s.) Another google search on Hannover and Hanover arrivals all indicate the same routes. This information totally disrupting my assumption that the arrivals would have been in New York. > My question is: do any of you have any information about the German arrivals -- if they tended to head out for New Orleans and then, make their way up north, perhaps by river? Any information, anecdotal or otherwise, would be appreciated. > Mary Helen Miller > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

At 08:04 AM 5/28/02 -0700, Mary Helen Miller wrote: >My question is: do any of you have any information about the German arrivals -- if they tended to head out for New Orleans and then, make their way up north, perhaps by river? Any information, anecdotal or otherwise, would be appreciated. All I know is ... there is no telling what routes these folks used to get to this country! My g.g.grandmother was married in Pennsylvania in 1842. (Um, this is on-topic because she eventually ended up in Grant County by about 1860 and lived there until her death, 54 years later. Her name was Agnes Smith Cox Ellis.) I had family stories of her coming to this country as a young girl and wearing her feather bed as a skirt (try that sometime!) to keep warm in the winter. Since she was born in 1826, I never bothered to look for emigration records out of Scotland much before 1830. Well ... as it turned out ... she left Scotland in 1828: the family emigrated first to Canada and after nine years there THEN came to the U.S. Who would have known???? Susan

Susan.......My German ancestors (Lehmann) boarded a sailing ship "Johanna" in Bremen in 1846 and came to the port of Indianola (later Galveston) Texas. There was a large German population in south Texas. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Cummins" <cummins7@mindspring.com> To: <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 4:50 PM Subject: [WIGRANT] Re: Unidentified subject! > At 08:04 AM 5/28/02 -0700, Mary Helen Miller wrote: > > >My question is: do any of you have any information about the German > arrivals -- if they tended to head out for New Orleans and then, make their > way up north, perhaps by river? Any information, anecdotal or otherwise, > would be appreciated. > > All I know is ... there is no telling what routes these folks used to get > to this country! My g.g.grandmother was married in Pennsylvania in 1842. > (Um, this is on-topic because she eventually ended up in Grant County by > about 1860 and lived there until her death, 54 years later. Her name was > Agnes Smith Cox Ellis.) > > I had family stories of her coming to this country as a young girl and > wearing her feather bed as a skirt (try that sometime!) to keep warm in the > winter. Since she was born in 1826, I never bothered to look for emigration > records out of Scotland much before 1830. Well ... as it turned out ... she > left Scotland in 1828: the family emigrated first to Canada and after nine > years there THEN came to the U.S. Who would have known???? > > Susan > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Mary Helen, Maybe I am missing something, but when I go to the web address you mentioned http://istg.rootsweb.com/ a search function is not immediately obvious. Can you advise where it is on the page? Eileen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Helen Miller" <mhelenmiller@yahoo.com> To: <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:04 AM Subject: Unidentified subject! > > For those of you who are not familiar with a wonderful group, Rootsweb sponsors the website of the Ship Transcribers' Guild - hundreds of volunteers who are transcribing all the immigrant manifests that are on microfilm at the NARA. Their website is: istg.rootsweb.com. The information that was recorded on the manifests are varied- some as little as a name and age, others with the entire family, where they are coming from and to whence they are going, children, etc. > In a lightbulb moment, I put in a town in Hanover, Germany from where I know many of my immigrants came and ended up in Grant County, Wisconsin. While not exactly the relatives I am looking for -- Buddes, Mullers, etc., (and the guild has only completed about 5000 out of hundreds of thousands), I noted that these ships left Bremen and their port of arrival was New Orleans. (My time period is 1830s-1860s.) Another google search on Hannover and Hanover arrivals all indicate the same routes. This information totally disrupting my assumption that the arrivals would have been in New York. > My question is: do any of you have any information about the German arrivals -- if they tended to head out for New Orleans and then, make their way up north, perhaps by river? Any information, anecdotal or otherwise, would be appreciated. > Mary Helen Miller > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >