Dave, thanks for the information. Most of it coincides with what I have. Except for the Henry Ottemeier info. I suspect that the one Henry is their son and the other one (1998) would be a gggrandson. But will check with our LDS Family Center and see what information they might have on dealing with the Wisconsin History Center. I have found that I have better luck using them sometimes than trying to do it myself. I have sent your information to my sister and to a cousin who are also doing some tracing on the Julius side. The cousin is working on my Grandmother Julius' side. Bev