In a message dated 02/2/26 9:52:43 AM, KinDetective@aol.com writes: << Thank You Mari, Rollie, Jan & Sandy. .....<snip>..... (that's why I found it while searching for 1850 Fennimore--nearby Clifton) >> Oops, that was the 1860 census, & Mary in the thanks category, but Mari gets thanks, too! Smile

In a message dated 02/2/25 6:30:07 PM, rjzart@facstaff.wisc.edu writes: << Hi: New California is by Livingston, Grant co., WI; it's in Clifton township. >> Thank You Mari, Rollie, Jan & Sandy. New California stuck in my head because of the Grant County Mining industry, and then when Mary posted that article, it seemed even more relevant. (that's why I found it while searching for 1850 Fennimore--nearby Clifton) Di <-- off to read further

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/372.2 Message Board Post: Hi again, Just another thought on that District 24 question. Relating the occupations of your listed folks, it appears to be a village or town location as opposed to a farm or more rural setting. (wagon maker, tailor, etc.) You can help narrow down the place at least by trying to find a nearby tavern or hotel (which can usually be seen labeled in the margin of the census page). Many villages and towns ("downtown") had taverns or hotels, but you may find a pattern which can be a helpful clue as to in which town your folks were residents. Also located on the Grant County GenWeb page, is a very useful settlement listing, of which I was recently reminded for help. It's just above Dave Taft's townships map link on the main page. http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigrant/settlements.htm Happy sleuthing! Kin D

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/372.1 Message Board Post: Hi Rose, I can't help with the Grogan question, but regarding District 24, it is several townships. I believe it is most of the northern/northwestern Grant County Townships, just by process of elimination from those listed individually on the 1850 census. I've viewed the entire district and unfortunately as in some other such labeled districts, none of the individual townships, villages or post offices are listed on any page. These are the 1850 Grant Co. District 25 townships. - Fennimore - Harrison Twp - Hazel Green - Highland - Jamestown - Lima - Paris - Platteville - Smeltzer Grove - Wingville We were discussing a related issue recently on the WIGRANT Rootsweb mailing list. I wanted to see if we could find out which townships were included and in what order on any census which is labeled "unknown" or "various" or "district #." I don't believe we managed to find any consistent trend to the enumeration order of townships in different census (i.e., alphabetical, geographical), so it really helps to have a number of people to add input where they knew their ancestor's locations throughout a space of time. You can view a township map by clicking on the link "Dave Taft's Grant County Township Map" (thanks Dave!) from the following page, managed by Robin Kaspar (thanks Robin!): http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/ I don't have any known district 24 ancestors as yet, so I can't give you a point of reference. Hopefully you'll be able to narrow down your folk's location, and perhaps some other Grant County researchers will be able to lend assistance. Good Luck! Kin

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/372 Message Board Post: Can anyone help with the below individuals Grogan? What did District 24 become? as a town in later census; or did it stay named as such? 1850 Census State of Wisconsin County of Grant Town: District 24 page of Census itself: 51 online page 101 of 169 enumerated: 4 September 1850 Dwelling # 719; Family # 730 Grogan, William 35 wagonmaker Michael 30 tailor John 28 laborer Obrine Catherine 50 Kennelly John 25 tailor

Hi: New California is by Livingston, Grant co., WI; it's in Clifton township. Sandy Garthwaite-Zart Mary Thiele Fobian wrote: > >I could swear I saw it while seeking which town Fennimore was listed with in > >the 1850 census. > >Could have been in Iowa County. > >Di <--- Eye weary from census (& other) reading and Olympic spectating. > > Di, the Getty Thesaurus has these listings for "New California": > > 1. Marble Hill.....................(inhabited place) > (N & C Am., USA, Missouri, Bollinger)[2059655] > New California > 2. New California..................(inhabited place) > (N & C Am., USA, Louisiana, Pointe Coupee)[2538970] > 3. New California..................(inhabited place) > (N & C Am., USA, Ohio, Union)[2080970] > > To use this research tool, go to: > http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabulary/tgn/ > > Using google I got a hit for gen site about Frederick C. Kirkpatrick that > included the text, "born 3 December 1846 at New California, Wisconsin" but > the link didn't work. No hits from hotbot. I bet one of the other > WIGRANTers will come through with some info. > > =============== > Always use real butter. > =============== > Mary Thiele Fobian > Writer/Editor > Pacific Grove, CA > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 02/2/23 1:24:49 PM, metaphor@mbay.net writes: << http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/wis150/stories/0412sesqui.stm >> Nice article, Mary. Thanks. Does anyone know of a village in one of the Grant County towns which was called New California? I could swear I saw it while seeking which town Fennimore was listed with in the 1850 census. Could have been in Iowa County. Di <--- Eye weary from census (& other) reading and Olympic spectating.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5EA703805961B9CD3CB21F88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe New California was a mile or so southwest of Livingston. Rollie Littlewood wrote: > At 08:21 PM 2/25/2002 -0500, Di <KinDetective@aol.com> wrote: > >...Does anyone know of a village in one of the Grant County towns > which was called New California?... > > You can find the answer on the Grant County GenWeb site: > <http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigrant/settlements.htm>. > > Rollie > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------5EA703805961B9CD3CB21F88 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="jday.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Jan Day Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="jday.vcf" begin:vcard n:Day;Jan tel;home:608.943.6137 tel;work:563.557.4498 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.janday.com adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:jday@tds.net x-mozilla-cpt:;3 fn:Jan Day end:vcard --------------5EA703805961B9CD3CB21F88--

At 08:21 PM 2/25/2002 -0500, Di <KinDetective@aol.com> wrote: >...Does anyone know of a village in one of the Grant County towns which was called New California?... You can find the answer on the Grant County GenWeb site: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigrant/settlements.htm>. Rollie

>I could swear I saw it while seeking which town Fennimore was listed with in >the 1850 census. >Could have been in Iowa County. >Di <--- Eye weary from census (& other) reading and Olympic spectating. Di, the Getty Thesaurus has these listings for "New California": 1. Marble Hill.....................(inhabited place) (N & C Am., USA, Missouri, Bollinger)[2059655] New California 2. New California..................(inhabited place) (N & C Am., USA, Louisiana, Pointe Coupee)[2538970] 3. New California..................(inhabited place) (N & C Am., USA, Ohio, Union)[2080970] To use this research tool, go to: http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabulary/tgn/ Using google I got a hit for gen site about Frederick C. Kirkpatrick that included the text, "born 3 December 1846 at New California, Wisconsin" but the link didn't work. No hits from hotbot. I bet one of the other WIGRANTers will come through with some info. =============== Always use real butter. =============== Mary Thiele Fobian Writer/Editor Pacific Grove, CA

I am looking for information on the family of LUDWIG CARL JULIUS. He brought the family to the Stitzer area in 1850 from Darmstadt, Germany. I am looking for obituaries or the name of newspapers that might have them. He brought with him: Ludwig Carl JULIUS b. 4 Oct 1802 d. 6 Feb 1886 Stitzer Wife: Catherine Elizabeth FISCHER b. 1810 d. 3 Nov 1884 Stitzer children: Louis C. JULIUS b. 23 Jul 1830 Darmstadt, Ger. d. 18 Mar 1897 Stitzer, WI Wife of Louis: Elizabeth HALLENBERGER b. 25 Jul 1836 Darmstadt, Ger. d. 7 May 1883, Stitzer WI Sophia JULIUS later married b. 14 Sep 1832 Darmstadt, Ger, d. 28 Oct 1897 Stitzer, WI Heinrich OTTEMEIER b. ? d. 26 Dec 1905 Charles JULIUS b. Jun 1840 Darmstadt, Ger. d. 30 Jun 1863 Vicksburg, Mississippi Henry JULIUS (my g grandfather) b. 6 Apr 1843 Darmstadt, Ger. d. 18 Mar 1918 O'Neill, NE Anna Gertrude HALLENBERGER b. 19 Sep 1844 d. ? Cherokee, IA Caroline Kathyrn JULIUS b. 7 Nov 1845 Darmstadt, Ger. d.18 Jul 1931 Kenosha, WI George Ludwig LIMPER, Rev. b. 24 Jun 1834 ?, d. 8 Dec 1905 Kenosha, WI Ludwig Carl JULIUS also brought his mother, but we have no name. The Hallenberger sisters were brought here from Germany by Louis and Henry. I have a lot of names, dates and some locations for descendants. What information I have came from a cousin in Stitzer sometime in the 1960s but have been unable to locate him or any offspring. I have information on the descendants of Henry as most of them settled in South Dakota, where I live, Wyoming, Nebraska and some in Iowa. Any help I can get will be gratefully received. Beverly J. Miller, Rapid City, South Dakota

Kevin Fraley has written an excellent article about this census and what you need to know about it. He titles it "A Whole New Ball Game" and it certainly sounds like it will be. I have added a link to the essay from the Grant Co. Genealogy Links page or you can find it directly at http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/1930.htm Also new to the Links page is Bill Smith's submission of the 1870 Grant Co. Census Township Listing. Many thanks to Bill! Robin Hoff Kaspar Volunteer host, Grant County, Wisconsin WIGenweb http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigrant

Hi David, Thank you so much for taking the time to look. I think I got some of my info from the Lemanski book when I was in PdC & Bloomington a few years ago. I have not come across the info on a Rhonda. I would certainly appreciate seeing what you have. I do have all the 1880 family in PdC & Bloomington and Millville. This family is a real challenge. I suspect A.J. is a brother of James in Bloomington and John in Millville, Clayton, Iowa. I find a reference that John was in Fairplay before going to Millville. Do you know anything about Fairplay, Jamestown, WI? James has one son, Caleb who stays in Bloomington and his daughter marries a KOECKE, the other son settles in Hanibal,Missouri. They have scattered all up and down the Mississippi, on both sides. I also have a note that Elsey Jane Kinyon wife of J. Kinyon d. Sep. 11, 1872 age 26 yrs 9 mo. and 5 days. There is a tombstone in the Bridgeport Cemetery. I suspect husband was A.J. Kinyon. That is why I have been trying to find something that would give a parent, etc. Your expertise is much appreciated!! Phyllis At 09:19 AM 2/24/02 -0600, you wrote: >Phyllis, > >Interesting question. I can't locate the 1875 marriage of A.J. to Victoria >in Grant Co., or anywhere else in the state using the Ancestry.com state >marriage index. This marriage is listed in the Grant Co. Herald newspaper >book by Cheryl Lemanski as taking place in Wyalusing. She listed a Bk and >Pg number for the Grant Co. marriage records, but it's actually that for his >marriage to Elsa. > >No parents were listed on the marriage record for A.J. and Elsa. > >This must be them in the 1880 Crawford Co. Census with Victoria's children >from a previous marriage: > >1880 Census, Prairie Du Chien, Crawford, Wisconsin >Source: FHL Film 1255421 National Archives Film T9-1421 Page 117C > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace >Andrew KENYON Self M M W 52 NY > Occ: Stage Driver Fa: NY Mo: NY >Victoria KENYON Wife F M W 35 PA > Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA >William RAINIER SSon M S W 13 IA > Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: PA >Daisy RAINIER SDau F S W 12 IL > Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: PA >John RAINIER SSon M S W 10 IL > Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: PA > >Per the Crawford Co. marriage records, Andrew/A.J. was married at some point >to a Rhoda Unknown. Three of his children by Rhoda were married in Crawford >Co. in 1869 & 1871. But I don't find him in the 1870 Census index for Grant >or Crawford Co. Must have been hiding somewhere. > >Dave Taft > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Phyllis, Interesting question. I can't locate the 1875 marriage of A.J. to Victoria in Grant Co., or anywhere else in the state using the Ancestry.com state marriage index. This marriage is listed in the Grant Co. Herald newspaper book by Cheryl Lemanski as taking place in Wyalusing. She listed a Bk and Pg number for the Grant Co. marriage records, but it's actually that for his marriage to Elsa. No parents were listed on the marriage record for A.J. and Elsa. This must be them in the 1880 Crawford Co. Census with Victoria's children from a previous marriage: 1880 Census, Prairie Du Chien, Crawford, Wisconsin Source: FHL Film 1255421 National Archives Film T9-1421 Page 117C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Andrew KENYON Self M M W 52 NY Occ: Stage Driver Fa: NY Mo: NY Victoria KENYON Wife F M W 35 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA William RAINIER SSon M S W 13 IA Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: PA Daisy RAINIER SDau F S W 12 IL Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: PA John RAINIER SSon M S W 10 IL Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: PA Per the Crawford Co. marriage records, Andrew/A.J. was married at some point to a Rhoda Unknown. Three of his children by Rhoda were married in Crawford Co. in 1869 & 1871. But I don't find him in the 1870 Census index for Grant or Crawford Co. Must have been hiding somewhere. Dave Taft

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/371.1 Message Board Post: Shelly, There is a John F. ATWOOD on the 1860 census for Fennimore (listed after Lancaster) on page #146 (indexer's number), census page #44. Film# M653_1409 7 July 1860 Grant County, WI, Fennimore, PO Fennimore Lines 17-24, Dwelling & Family #322 John F. ATWOOD 38 M Farmer RE$1,000 Property$225 b. Maine Sarah A. " 37 F " Lucy J. 11 F born IL Ellen F. 9 F WI Martha A. 6 F WI Charles A. 4 M WI George A. 2 M WI Alonzo R. VONN? 13 M WI (Not sure on the first letter of last name for Alonzo. Looked to see if it could be "Dow" but both the "D" and "w" would have to be so poorly written, I doubt it. There were no other capital V or D to compare.) Since Alonzo is listed last and has no profession listed, he may be a child from a previous marriage for Sarah, or a nephew. None of the neighboring families are Vonn. Only a couple persons nearby are from NY--one woman from the immediate next door family--Armida Hyde, and two families down, Wm. E. Smith. There is a John Atwood listed 1860 in Hazel Green p.224 (index #): Grant County, WI. Hazel Green PO; page 8. Lines 13-14; Dwelling 58, Family 62. John ATWOOD; age 70; Male; Merchant; RealEstate $800; Personal 1,500; Born MA Laura " 54; F; Born Maine The 2 both have folks from Maine, & there is a George W. WENTWORTH, age 36, & a Lorenzo Wentworth, age 28 in 1850 Orrington, Penobscot County, Maine (no Louisa or Lousia with either). Another observance: Next to the Fennimore ATWOOD, is the family of (Tausman?) LOWELL from Ohio, and very near the family of Geo Wentworth in Maine, are two Lowell families--Nathaniel & James. Don't know if it's just a coincidence of common names or a clue. Perhaps ordering the marriage record would provide more specifics. Those early records are often scant on details or one sided (the person filing the info's side of family). The info in the usual marriage indexes is what you already know. The original record might be the only source that would unveil more. Good luck in your search for Louisa! KinD

Dear List, Can anyone give me anything more about these two marriages? Kinyon, A. J. to Victoral Ranier 28 Sept. 1875 in Wyalusing Twp., Grant, WI. and Kenyon, A. J. to Brent, Elsa J. 24 Jun 1872 ? Hopefully, Phyllis in Oregon

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Atwood / Wentworth / Rappleyea Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/371 Message Board Post: Hi I have spent 2 years looking for the following woman: Louisa Wentworth (nee Rappleyea) I queried ancestry.com by using "Mrs." as a first name and found a marriage note and discovered she had remarried. Now I need to find her with new husband on the 1860 Census, in Grant County, Fennimore Twp, page 146. This would be John Atwood, Louisa and possible children of Louisa's: Fidelia age 9 or 10 and maybe a Charles. She was born Louisa Rappleyea of Tonawanda, NY and in 1847 married Lorenzo Dow Wentworth. Her second marriage is in Grant County on 15 Apr 1857 to John Atwood. Can anyone look up the census and tell me if she is with John Atwood and if there are children and names and ages etc.. Also on the Atwood / Wentworth marriage, does it say she was a widow or divorced or does it give her maiden name. Thanks to anyone who can help me with details. Shelly Jay (nee Rappleyea)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/370.1.1 Message Board Post: Dave: Thanks. You furnished an important piece of info; the name of Thomas Robinson's father. W. A. Robinson was listed as next of kin in 1898 Army records. W. A. Robinson (William A.) was shown as living in Clayton County Iowa (the Iowa county directly across the Mississippi river from Grant County, WI) in 1898. I'm tracking down 220 men who volunterred at La Crosse, WI for Army service in the Spanish-American War. I've "found" 210 and Thomas Clay Robinson has been a problem due to the common name, the fact he or his widow didn't apply for a veterans pension and he apparently didn't remain in the La Crosse area after he was mustered out in 1899. Thanks again for moving me one step closer to 'finding" Pvt. Robinson.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Robinson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/370.1 Message Board Post: John, I don't find Thomas in the 1880 Grant Co. census, but can provide the following. >From the Grant Co. marriage records: Robinson, Thomas C. married Bertha Root, 3 Dec 1900, recorded in Bk. 13, Pg. 46. Thomas is recorded as the son of William A. and Caroline (Unknown) Robinson. Bertha the daughter of John and Ruth (Unknown) Root. Dave Taft Arlington, TX

Dave, Thank you very much for the marriage record. Wanda