This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lEC.2ACE/416.2.1 Message Board Post: Melissa; This is the correct family , in fact I have a copy of Charles and Margaret Jacobs marriage record. One of the people you do not have in the Mayo family is Mary Jane and she is our connection. She married Henry H Brown from Grant County. She was the first person born in Wisconsin. of this family. I am looking for more information from England . In Charlottes obituary it states that she was born in Poole England. Her maiden name was Hale. I am wondering what part of England William was from. If you want to e-mail me my address is darray@charter.net If you e-mail me , I will give you my address and phone number and I will gladly share what I have in information. Darlene
Hello! I recently returned from a full week of genealogy research at the Karrmann Library at UW-Platteville, and I offer these comments and tips for those who may be contemplating such a trip and like to know what to expect. I require handicap parking and they have adequate spaces as close to the entrance as possible, but you will have to walk about a half block to the building entrance (level terrain). Staff were EXTREMELY friendly, helpful and attentive ? they check on you periodically to see how youre doing. They strike a good balance between leaving you alone and being available to help. Before taking elevator or stairs down to the Wisconsin Room (in the basement of the library) to do your research, get a Vendamat (copycard) on the 1st or 2nd floor of the library for $1, and then you add to it in $1, $5, or $10 increments (so have cash in those denominations). This makes your copies 7¢ each; without a copycard, photocopies will be 25¢ each. When you need to take a break, restrooms and water fountain are by the elevator -- just across the hall from the Wisconsin Room (which is in the basement). You can also buy a cup of Starbucks on the main floor. Food and drink are not permitted in the Wisconsin Room. The Wisconsin Room is very warm, so you may be most comfortable in short sleeves. The Wisconsin Room does not have its own public copier within, and since patrons may not remove materials from the room, staff will be doing your copying upstairs with your copycard. They all have a keen eye for detail, and take pains to copy the specific information you indicate, ensure that it copies legibly, etc. and keep the copies with the original source so you can cite the source on the copies without mixup. If you're hoping to get lots of information, tiny post-its, paper clips and mini-stapler may prove handy. For microfilm, there is one machine that prints (using the copycard). There is also one internet unit for use there, which may or may not be attached to a printer (don't know). Dont try to go there when you are in a big hurry. Everyone must be patient to receive service ? in locating materials, getting assistance on where to next focus your search, in getting your photocopied materials, or waiting to use the printable microfilm reader. The level of staffing depends on the day, class schedules, etc. Write, email or call ahead to inquire about special appointments ? they are accommodating whenever possible if they dont have classes or special trainings scheduled. I found wonderful accommodations at the Mound View Motel ? independent, family-owned, fairly new, clean, quiet, very affordable, and continental breakfast too! They offered the best price of the 5 motels I called. Just do a Google.com search for Mound View Motel Platteville. Platteville has mainstream places ? Walmart, Kmart, Domino Pizza, Hardees, McDonalds, Taco John's, Subway, Country Kitchen. Better still are the local eateries ? Big Mikes (subs), Uno #1Pizza, McGregors, McDermotts, and Timbers, just to name a few I tried. The main grocery store has a deli and Chinese take-out, too. The landscape in the area is full of scenic vistas (quite lovely!) and everyone I met was helpful and genuinely friendly. I had an incredible week there and came back to Michigan with tons of family history information. Ill be going back again in the fall! Jeanie Stewart
This is from my own database (most facts provided by family members and undocumented as far as I know): Johan Conrad Vesperman born November 04, 1850 died February 20, 1903 buried Hillside Cemetery, Lancaster, Grant, WI parents: J. Vesperman & Sophia Hoffmeister spouse: Maria Margretha Napp married November 05, 1875, Conrad Napp home, Lancaster Grant, WI (Groom's name is listed as George Conrad in the "Wisconsin Marriages, 1835-1900" database.) ============= Mary Thiele Fobian Independent Writer/Editor Associate Editor, Reunions Magazine Pacific Grove, CA
If anyone has additional information, please get in touch. Grant County VESPERMAN Burials **VESPERMAN as surname at time of death:******************** Vesperman Ada (Hoehn) 1891-1991 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Adolph 1883-1944 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Alvin 1889-1979 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Clarence R. 1893-1984 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Delpha Elizabeth "Rusty" (Hore) 1913-1970 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Doris Ray 1914-2001 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Edward C. 1881-1976 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Edward L. 1888-1963 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Gerald 1933-1994 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman INFANT 1909-1909 Bloomington-Tafton Bloomington Vesperman James Thomas 1944-1978 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Johan Conrad 1850-1903 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman John C. 1884-1960 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Julia (Schultz) 1889-1997 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Kenneth 1907-1997 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Louis O. 1887-1948 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Maria Margretha "Mary" (Napp) 1852-1931 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Mattie (Vesperman) 1882-1976 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Mildred "Millie" (Vesperman) 1886-1972 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Nellie (Cox) 1906-1950 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Nellie (Jeide) 1886-1971 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Ralph Henry 1917-1986 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman Rose (Vesperman) 1889-1995 Hillside South Lancaster Vesperman William 1891-1985 Hillside South Lancaster **VESPERMAN as maiden name:*********************************** Sandleback Marie (Vesperman) 1911-2001 Hillside South Lancaster Wepking Clara (Vesperman) 1879-1975 Hillside South Lancaster Wepking Emma (Vesperman) 1876-1949 Hillside South Lancaster ============= Mary Thiele Fobian Independent Writer/Editor Associate Editor, Reunions Magazine Pacific Grove, CA
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/382.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have extensive info on Vesperman heritage back to 1843. Iam trying to tie in the john Conrad Vesperman Family w/the christian vesperman III. I hope to find a common thread as to when they came from German-Austrian border, My info says they came thru New Orleans??? Larry
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Collier, Lowson, Morse, Richardson, Ricks, Breadmore, Edgecomb, Russell, Rowley, Walthart, Greenawalt, Hoke, Bair, Basinger, Miller, Myers, Staub, Shaffer, Christner, Knopsnider, Brothers, Walters, Queer, Payne Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lEC.2ACE/416.2 Message Board Post: Hello Darlene, I found your Mayo family living in Grant County Wisconsin in the 1880 census. I have been looking into this family because I think that Charles Mayo born in England around 1849 married a Margret Jacobs granddaughter to a Lansil Edgecomb. I have narrowed William and Charlotte's arrival in the US to between 1849-1855. 1880 Census Wisconsin Grant County Marion Twp., Dwelling # 34 Family #34 Mayo, Charles WM 31 Farmer England/England/England Mayo, Margret WF 22 Wife WI/Ohio/Ohio Mayo, Charles WM 2 Son WI/England/WI Dwelling #35 Family #35 Mayo, William WM 55 Farmer England/England/England Mayo, Charlotte WF 50 Wife England/England/England Mayo, John 34 WM son England/England/England Mayo, Joseph 25 WM son Michigan/ England/ England Mayo, Sarah 21 daughter WI/England/England Mayo, Eveline 15 daughter WI/England/England The next family is a Rufus Edgecomb. I believe the Margret who married Charles is Rufus's niece. Hope this helps in your quest. Best regards, Melissa C. Hiatt
Listen to Wisconsin Public Radio at 11:00am Thursday, May 30th. The 1930 census was remarkable for many things, including the first time people were asked if there was a radio in the home. After eleven, Larry Meiller talks with state genealogist Jim Hansen about information made available to family history seekers this spring. You can listen over the internet, http://www.wpr.org/webcasting/ click on 'listen live' or... listen at a later time, at your convenience... you can listen to the program from the archive file. http://www.wpr.org/webcasting/ideas_audioarchives.cfm?Code=mlr
>From the Spirit of the Times Batavia, Genesee Co., NY May 15, 1826 INDIAN MURDERS We are informed by a gentleman who arrived here on board the steam-boat Mexico, on the 8th inst. from Prairie Du Chien, that, on the 22d of March, about nine miles below Fort Crawford, Mr. MITOD, his wife, and three children, were murdered by a party of Indians, supposed to be the Winebagoes. Not satisfied with the lives of the unfortunate victims, they burnt the camp with part of the dead and committed on the body of the murdered female, who was in a state of pregnancy, deeds savage barbarity, too socking to be related. Mr. M. it is believed, made a manly defence, as two of the savages were buried the next morning after the occurence, supposed to have died of their wounds.
In a message dated 5/28/2002 6:47:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, leengeo@bigfoot.com writes: > Maybe I am missing something, but when I go to the web address you > mentioned http://istg.rootsweb.com/ a search function is not > immediately obvious. Can you advise where it is on the page? > A ITSG search engine is available on teh http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/resources.html page. OR you can paste the following on a TEXT form, and save it as ISTG.htm <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="0" WIDTH="100%"> <A name="transcriptions"></A> <CENTER><H2>Transcription Projects</H2></CENTER> <DL><DT><A href="http://istg.rootsweb.com/">Immigrant Ship Transcribers Guild (ISTG)</A><br> Check to see if your immigrant ancestors' names are listed! <center> <DD><FORM method=post action="http://seeker.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/htsearch"> <TABLE border=1 width="80%"><TR><TD> <CENTER><STRONG>Search the Immigrant Ship Transcribers Guild (ISTG)</STRONG>< /CENTER><BR><BR> <FONT size="-1">Match: <SELECT name=method> <OPTION value=and>All <OPTION value=or>Any <OPTION value=boolean>Boolean </SELECT> Format: <SELECT name=format> <OPTION value=builtin-long>Long <OPTION value=builtin-short>Short </SELECT> </FONT> <INPUT type=hidden name=config value=htdig> <INPUT type=hidden name=restrict value="http://istg.rootsweb.com/"> <INPUT type=hidden name=exclude value=""> <BR>Search: <INPUT type=text size=30 name=words value=""> <INPUT type=submit value="Search"><BR><BR> </TD></TR></TABLE></FORM></Table> Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.)
Many of the Irish also came by way of New Orleans. I had heard that the cotton ships would transport the cotton from the South to Europe and would then bring passengers on the return trip. This was one of the cheapest ways to get to America. R. Corda
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Mary Helen, Maybe I am missing something, but when I go to the web address you mentioned http://istg.rootsweb.com/ a search function is not immediately obvious. Can you advise where it is on the page? Eileen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Helen Miller" <mhelenmiller@yahoo.com> To: <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:04 AM Subject: Unidentified subject! > > For those of you who are not familiar with a wonderful group, Rootsweb sponsors the website of the Ship Transcribers' Guild - hundreds of volunteers who are transcribing all the immigrant manifests that are on microfilm at the NARA. Their website is: istg.rootsweb.com. The information that was recorded on the manifests are varied- some as little as a name and age, others with the entire family, where they are coming from and to whence they are going, children, etc. > In a lightbulb moment, I put in a town in Hanover, Germany from where I know many of my immigrants came and ended up in Grant County, Wisconsin. While not exactly the relatives I am looking for -- Buddes, Mullers, etc., (and the guild has only completed about 5000 out of hundreds of thousands), I noted that these ships left Bremen and their port of arrival was New Orleans. (My time period is 1830s-1860s.) Another google search on Hannover and Hanover arrivals all indicate the same routes. This information totally disrupting my assumption that the arrivals would have been in New York. > My question is: do any of you have any information about the German arrivals -- if they tended to head out for New Orleans and then, make their way up north, perhaps by river? Any information, anecdotal or otherwise, would be appreciated. > Mary Helen Miller > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
A few interesting web sites http://library.thinkquest.org/20619/German.html http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/frameset_rg.asp?Dest=G1&Aid=&Gid=&Lid=&Sid=&Did=&Juris1=&Event=&Year=&Gloss=&Sub=&Tab=&Entry=&Guide=Germany.ASP http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/frameset_rg.asp?Dest=G1&Aid=&Gid=&Lid=&Sid=&Did=&Juris1=&Event=&Year=&Gloss=&Sub=&Tab=&Entry=&Guide=Germany.ASP http://www.cyndislist.com/germany.htm#Pubs Several tapes here about immigration. "Des Allemands: German Migration Through New Orelans And Up The Mississippi" I have heard Beth Stahr speak at FGS national convention. The tape is $8.50. It was very interesting. or... You could buy an entire sylabus from that convention for $20 http://www.fgs.org/fgs-syl.asp then you'd have notes from Beth Stahr's presentation plus about 200 others notes!
Susan.......My German ancestors (Lehmann) boarded a sailing ship "Johanna" in Bremen in 1846 and came to the port of Indianola (later Galveston) Texas. There was a large German population in south Texas. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Cummins" <cummins7@mindspring.com> To: <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 4:50 PM Subject: [WIGRANT] Re: Unidentified subject! > At 08:04 AM 5/28/02 -0700, Mary Helen Miller wrote: > > >My question is: do any of you have any information about the German > arrivals -- if they tended to head out for New Orleans and then, make their > way up north, perhaps by river? Any information, anecdotal or otherwise, > would be appreciated. > > All I know is ... there is no telling what routes these folks used to get > to this country! My g.g.grandmother was married in Pennsylvania in 1842. > (Um, this is on-topic because she eventually ended up in Grant County by > about 1860 and lived there until her death, 54 years later. Her name was > Agnes Smith Cox Ellis.) > > I had family stories of her coming to this country as a young girl and > wearing her feather bed as a skirt (try that sometime!) to keep warm in the > winter. Since she was born in 1826, I never bothered to look for emigration > records out of Scotland much before 1830. Well ... as it turned out ... she > left Scotland in 1828: the family emigrated first to Canada and after nine > years there THEN came to the U.S. Who would have known???? > > Susan > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
I knew of the sometimes used port of New Orleans for some German ships....however I don't know the reason that some used it and some not. But, to confuse your confusion even more..... My Great grandparents came from Germany.........by way of Bohemia...... paternal great grandparents. ( I hope you can decipher that). Anyway, my grandmother and her brother came from Bremen, by way of Brandlin, Bohemia. My grandfather's parents came into the port of Baltimore, MD. I know that because the oldest of the children was born just after they landed in Baltimore. Am still looking for which port my grandmother and her brother landed at. Wish there had been more questions asked. But, this gives you a new look........both my grandfather's parents, and my grandmother's family came from the same area........a village south of Prague. But, again, I don't know why some came through the Eastern seaboard, and some from New Orleans. Would be an interesting study, I think. Mari List Admin At 10:38 AM 5/28/02 , Aleise Oyen wrote: >I received this information from a relative of mine who is doing research on >the >German immigration to Grant County. the "Bickenriede Connection". He said: > >"I kept coming across these families who came from the area around >Bickenriede, >landed in New Orleans, came up the Mississippi (most changing riverboats in >St. Louis), and then proceeding to Dubuque. There was some type of "German >Immigration Office" in New Orleans who helped the incoming Germans. Then in >St. Louis, there were land barons who sold farming parcels in Wisconsin. >Some of the more wealthy immigrants apparently purchased their land from >these barons." > >When researching my relatives, with the help of my aunt, I found that my >relatives also came from Germany, (Pfaffenstaff?) and through her research >had stated that they assumed one couple came together after being married in >Germany. I later found their marriage license listed at Ancestry.com. They >were married in St. Louis. That is what tipped me off, that maybe these >people were landing in New Orleans instead of New York. My relatives also >came over in the period from 1830-1860. > >Just a tidbit to add to the mystery! > >Aleise Oyen > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mary Helen Miller" <mhelenmiller@yahoo.com> >To: <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:04 AM >Subject: Unidentified subject! > > > > > > For those of you who are not familiar with a wonderful group, Rootsweb >sponsors the website of the Ship Transcribers' Guild - hundreds of >volunteers who are transcribing all the immigrant manifests that are on >microfilm at the NARA. Their website is: istg.rootsweb.com. The information >that was recorded on the manifests are varied- some as little as a name and >age, others with the entire family, where they are coming from and to whence >they are going, children, etc. > > In a lightbulb moment, I put in a town in Hanover, Germany from where I >know many of my immigrants came and ended up in Grant County, Wisconsin. >While not exactly the relatives I am looking for -- Buddes, Mullers, etc., >(and the guild has only completed about 5000 out of hundreds of thousands), >I noted that these ships left Bremen and their port of arrival was New >Orleans. (My time period is 1830s-1860s.) Another google search on Hannover >and Hanover arrivals all indicate the same routes. This information totally >disrupting my assumption that the arrivals would have been in New York. > > My question is: do any of you have any information about the German >arrivals -- if they tended to head out for New Orleans and then, make their >way up north, perhaps by river? Any information, anecdotal or otherwise, >would be appreciated. > > Mary Helen Miller > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
At 08:04 AM 5/28/02 -0700, Mary Helen Miller wrote: >My question is: do any of you have any information about the German arrivals -- if they tended to head out for New Orleans and then, make their way up north, perhaps by river? Any information, anecdotal or otherwise, would be appreciated. All I know is ... there is no telling what routes these folks used to get to this country! My g.g.grandmother was married in Pennsylvania in 1842. (Um, this is on-topic because she eventually ended up in Grant County by about 1860 and lived there until her death, 54 years later. Her name was Agnes Smith Cox Ellis.) I had family stories of her coming to this country as a young girl and wearing her feather bed as a skirt (try that sometime!) to keep warm in the winter. Since she was born in 1826, I never bothered to look for emigration records out of Scotland much before 1830. Well ... as it turned out ... she left Scotland in 1828: the family emigrated first to Canada and after nine years there THEN came to the U.S. Who would have known???? Susan
I received this information from a relative of mine who is doing research on the German immigration to Grant County. the "Bickenriede Connection". He said: "I kept coming across these families who came from the area around Bickenriede, landed in New Orleans, came up the Mississippi (most changing riverboats in St. Louis), and then proceeding to Dubuque. There was some type of "German Immigration Office" in New Orleans who helped the incoming Germans. Then in St. Louis, there were land barons who sold farming parcels in Wisconsin. Some of the more wealthy immigrants apparently purchased their land from these barons." When researching my relatives, with the help of my aunt, I found that my relatives also came from Germany, (Pfaffenstaff?) and through her research had stated that they assumed one couple came together after being married in Germany. I later found their marriage license listed at Ancestry.com. They were married in St. Louis. That is what tipped me off, that maybe these people were landing in New Orleans instead of New York. My relatives also came over in the period from 1830-1860. Just a tidbit to add to the mystery! Aleise Oyen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Helen Miller" <mhelenmiller@yahoo.com> To: <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:04 AM Subject: Unidentified subject! > > For those of you who are not familiar with a wonderful group, Rootsweb sponsors the website of the Ship Transcribers' Guild - hundreds of volunteers who are transcribing all the immigrant manifests that are on microfilm at the NARA. Their website is: istg.rootsweb.com. The information that was recorded on the manifests are varied- some as little as a name and age, others with the entire family, where they are coming from and to whence they are going, children, etc. > In a lightbulb moment, I put in a town in Hanover, Germany from where I know many of my immigrants came and ended up in Grant County, Wisconsin. While not exactly the relatives I am looking for -- Buddes, Mullers, etc., (and the guild has only completed about 5000 out of hundreds of thousands), I noted that these ships left Bremen and their port of arrival was New Orleans. (My time period is 1830s-1860s.) Another google search on Hannover and Hanover arrivals all indicate the same routes. This information totally disrupting my assumption that the arrivals would have been in New York. > My question is: do any of you have any information about the German arrivals -- if they tended to head out for New Orleans and then, make their way up north, perhaps by river? Any information, anecdotal or otherwise, would be appreciated. > Mary Helen Miller > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
For those of you who are not familiar with a wonderful group, Rootsweb sponsors the website of the Ship Transcribers' Guild - hundreds of volunteers who are transcribing all the immigrant manifests that are on microfilm at the NARA. Their website is: istg.rootsweb.com. The information that was recorded on the manifests are varied- some as little as a name and age, others with the entire family, where they are coming from and to whence they are going, children, etc. In a lightbulb moment, I put in a town in Hanover, Germany from where I know many of my immigrants came and ended up in Grant County, Wisconsin. While not exactly the relatives I am looking for -- Buddes, Mullers, etc., (and the guild has only completed about 5000 out of hundreds of thousands), I noted that these ships left Bremen and their port of arrival was New Orleans. (My time period is 1830s-1860s.) Another google search on Hannover and Hanover arrivals all indicate the same routes. This information totally disrupting my assumption that the arrivals would have been in New York. My question is: do any of you have any information about the German arrivals -- if they tended to head out for New Orleans and then, make their way up north, perhaps by river? Any information, anecdotal or otherwise, would be appreciated. Mary Helen Miller --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/170.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes I have info on the Beckwith family. If you give me a name I can see if we are connected. Leslie
No Mary, I don't think he was around to apply for benefits. He was born in 1905 in Baut, Germany and emigrated to the US in 1915. He married Ethel Manuel Aug. 29, 1923 in Plattville, WI. The first one might be him, if he never returned to Wisconsin. I will investigate that more. These were for Social Security benefits, correct? Thanks for your help. Glenda -----Original Message----- From: Mary Thiele Fobian [mailto:metaphor@mbay.net] Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 2:09 AM To: WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WIGRANT] Manuel/Schild/Bargmann dates query At 06:01 PM 5/26/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Searching for more information on Ernst/Ernest Schild who married Ethel >Manuel in Plattville, Grant County. He came over here Jan. 23, 1915 on the >SS George Washington out of Bremen. He was from Baut, Germany. His uncle >paid his way and his name was Heinrich/Henry Bargmann. After he married >Ethel Manuel, and fathered 2 children, twins Mildred and Milton, the family >stories say he returned to Germany due to his affinity with the Nazi Party. >Could anyone substantiate that and did he ever return, or did he die in >Germany during WW II? Is there a buriel plot in Grant County for >Ernst/Ernest Schild? Do you have a birth date for Ernst? How old was he when he came over? When did he marry Ethel? I don't know whether these SCHILDs fit into your time frame, but here they are: ERNEST C SCHILD Request Information (SS-5) SSN 066-09-8366 Residence: 18431 Honesdale, Wayne, PA Born 9 Jan 1906 Last Benefit: Died 19 Jun 2000 Issued: NY (Before 1951) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ERNEST SCHILD Request Information (SS-5) SSN 118-05-4068 Residence: 14221 Buffalo, Erie, NY Born 31 Dec 1893 Last Benefit: Died Nov 1981 Issued: NY (Before 1951) ============= Mary Thiele Fobian Pacific Grove, CA Independent Writer/Editor Associate Editor, Reunions Magazine ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237