Thank you Kathie for the URL. :) Mari List Admin At 09:37 AM 7/6/02 , NelliBlu28@aol.com wrote: >There is indeed a list for old photos! Go to: > >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/VINTAGE-PHOTOS.html > >VINTAGE-PHOTOS-L > >Topic: A mailing list for the discussion and sharing of information regarding >vintage photos including, but not restricted to, proper storage, >preservation, restoration, ageing and dating, restoration software, photo >types and materials used, restoration assistance, and scanning options. > >Always digging for my roots, Kathie Harrison >Lancaster Co. Coordinator, NEGenWeb Project >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/lancindex.html > >To understand the living you must commune with the dead. > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

LOL Dave to the rescue! I posted before I read this! Mari At 04:15 PM 7/5/02 , David W. Taft wrote: >One place to review is Cyndi's List for Photographs: > >http://www.cyndislist.com/photos.htm > >You may find an answer there or links to professionals who might >be able to help. > >Dave Taft > > > >_______________________________________ >Sent via the Cowtown Net WebMail system > > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I don't know if there is a special list or not........but would recommend taking the thing to a professional before trying anything. And, the advice about scanning before doing anything is also a good piece of advice. You might check with Cindy's List for possible help also. Sorry to be late with this.....was gone the weekend. Mari List Admin At 01:18 PM 7/5/02 , metaphor@mbay.net wrote: >At 02:02 PM 7/5/2002 EDT, you wrote: > >Can someone tell me how to unglue pictures from a scrape book that has been > >glued back to back. > >I don't know of a way to do this. My advice is, before you try ANYTHING, >scan >or color-photocopy the pictures. This way, if an important photo tears or is >otherwise damaged, you will have a "backup." > >[Mari, is there a special list for this sort of >query-and-response?] > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

WALSH, EDWARD F. TRAINOR, MARY E. 29 Nov 1876 Grant WI In addition, ,there is an 1853 record for Edward Walsh in IOWA County (adjacent to Grant): Edward Walsh Catherine Condon 11 Jun 1853 Iowa County Vol 01 Pg 0199

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ayers, Ward Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lEC.2ACE/418.1 Message Board Post: I do not know if this connects with anything on your branch. I have an Eliza Ayers 1840-1876 and an Elizabeth Agnes Ayers 1854-1918 from Grant Co. area. They were sisters. Eliza, 2nd wife of Edwin Ward died after childbirth in Oct 1876 and Edwin married Elizabeth Agnes, the younger sister, Dec 1876.

The Edward WALSH I have was born in 1840 in IL. So he wouldn't be old enough to marry in 1853! Maybe he married in Dubuque,Iowa because that's where he died at, or maybe Illinois as Margaret is from IL according to the 1870 Census. Aline Bergemann ----- Original Message ----- From: <metaphor@mbay.net> To: <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: [WIGRANT] Walsh-Trainor Marriage Record > WALSH, EDWARD F. > TRAINOR, MARY E. > 29 Nov 1876 > Grant WI > > In addition, ,there is an 1853 record for Edward Walsh in IOWA County (adjacent > to Grant): > > Edward Walsh > Catherine Condon > 11 Jun 1853 > Iowa County > Vol 01 Pg 0199 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Regarding the following marriage: WALSH, EDWARD F. TRAINOR, MARY E. 29 Nov 1876 Grant WI This Edward is recorded as the son of Matthew and Mary (Unknown) Walsh. The only marriages I found listing Nicholas and Mary Walsh as parents are: John Walsh m. Kattie Tormey, 21 Sep 1874 Johnanna Walsh m. Josiah Stephens, 7 Oct 1886 Dave Taft

Eileen, Per the Grant Co. marriage records: Martin Longhenry married Louisa Katharina Wolf, 6 Dec 1898. The marriage is recorded twice in the courthouse; Book 12, Pg. 341 and Book 12, Pg. 345. One has Louisa's middle name, the other does not. Martin is recorded as the son of Gerhard and Maria (Wilkens/Wilkins) Longhenry. Louisa the daughter of Friedrich Heinrich and Dorothea Wilh[elmina?] (Schroeder) Wolf. Per the Grant Co. death records: Louise K. Longhenry, nee Wolf, age 32, married to M. Longhenry, died 1 Sep 1900. Recorded in Book 4, Pg. 165. Louise is recorded as the daughter of Fred and Unknown Wolf. Witnesses and other details about both Martin and Louise would be available in the actual records. These can be requested from the Grant Co. Courthouse in Lancaster. Dave Taft

Hi, I need someone to look up marriage records of Edward WALSH who married a Margaret ? abt 1869 in Grant Cty, WI, she died before 1876. Edward married a Mary ? before 1876 in Grant Cty, WI. Edward is the son of Nicholas WALSH & Mary FAHERTY. I am interested in Mary's Surname. As well as Margaret's. Thank you in advance, Aline Bergemann Salem, OR

Looking for the details (parents, witnesses, etc.) in the marriage of Martin LONGHENRY, b. 01 January 1862, arriving in the US 1881 and ___________________. His son Louis is five in the 1905 census and wife is shown as deceased.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McLimans, Kitelinger Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/88.91.1 Message Board Post: Eric, I'm a distant realtive, but here is what I have for the Henry McLimans/Rachel Kitelinger marriage: 1. Henry McLimans, b. 30-Apr-1835, West Salem Twp., Mercer, PA, (son of John Hugh McLimans and Nancy Mitchell). He married (1) Rachel S. Kaightlinger, 05-Sep-1858, in Fennimore, Grant, WI, b. 2-Jul-1837, Plum Twp., Venango, PA, (daughter of James Kaightlinger and Sarah E. Luce). He married (2) Margaret Howard, 14-Mar-1866, in Grant Co., WI, b. 1832, Mercer Co., PA, (daughter of John Howard and Margaret _____) d. 9-May-1889, Fennimore, Grant, WI, buried: Fennimore Prairie Cemetery. He married (3) Alvira Sammons, 17-Dec-1889, in Fennimore, Grant, WI, b. 6-Jun-1850, Fennimore, Grant, WI, (daughter of Thomas Sammons and Alvira Baly) d. 1932. Henry died 06-Apr-1919, Boulder, Boulder, CO, buried: 9-Apr-1919, Valmont, CO. Henry purchased 80 acres of land in Liberty Twp., Grant, WI on 1 Jun 1858. Henry was living in Liberty Twp., Grant, WI in the 1860 census. Civil War Volunteer, Private, Co. C, 20th Infantry, enlisted 10 Aug 1862, discharged 14 Jul 1865 at Galveston, TX. Civi! l War pension file lists birth date at 5 May 1835. His death certificate lists an age of 83Y, 11M, 6D which would support a 30 Apr 1835 birthdate. Other unsubstantiated family records list his birth as 30 Apr 1835. Henry's pension file states that after the war he lived in Iowa 15 yrs, Nebraska 4 yrs, Wisconsin 20 yrs, California 3 years, then Colorado. In the 1870 Census, Henry McLyman and Margaret are living in Marcy Twp., Boone, IA, Pg. 135 with Sylvester and Nancy and Margaret's children Clard and Scott Hough. In the 1880 Census lists Henry and Margaret are living in Ogden, Boone, IA, Pg. 72A with son Sylvester and step-son Scott Hough. In 1880 Henry is listed as a Saloon Keeper, son Sylvester's occupation is listed as "Drives Team," and Scott as working in a Blacksmith Shop. The 1880 History of Boone Co., IA, Pg. 656 includes the following biography, "McLimans, Henry, saloon-keeper, Ogden; was born in Mercer county, Pennsylvania, in 1835, and in 1870 came to thi! s State, locating in Beaver township, this county; he was raised on a farm and has been in Ogden for four years; he has been married twice, first, to Miss Rachael Kitling of Wisconsin; she died, leaving two children: Sylvester and Nancy; he married again, Mrs. Margaret Houghton, a native of Pennsylvania; Mr. McLimans keeps a good stock in his line and is quite successful." Henry and Margaret are also found in the 1885 state census of Iowa living in Ogden, Yell Twp., Boone, IA. In 1885 their household included Margaret's mother Margaret Howard. The 22 Aug 1906 issue of The Fennimore Times states, "Henry McLimans and wife have left California and are now at Boulder, CO." In 1905 Henry's pension file states that he was living in Oakdale, Stainislaus Co., CA, near Modesto, CA. Henry's death certificate states that he was buried in Valmont? Colorado. Rachel: Rachel's birth and mother's maiden name per Ancestry.Com record by Kenneth Carpenter (kenng@freewwweb.com) and unkn! own submitter (scottlewis@alumni.uop.edu). Rachel's middle initial may have been "L." Family rumor says that Henry went to war and returned to find his wife with child and refused to have anything to with her thereafter. Henry and Rachel divorced 12 Mar 1866 in Grant Co., WI. By decree of the court, Henry was given "the care, custody and education of the children." The divorce decree states that Rachel McLimans "has been guilty of the several acts of adultery therein charged." Margaret: Married first to William Hough, recorded in Grant Co., WI marriage records, Bk. A, Pg. 270. Death recorded in Grant Co., WI deaths Vol. 2, Pg. 152. Alvira: Marriage registration found in Grant Co., Vol. 11, Pg. 112. Alvira's father listed as Thomas Simmons per Henry's Pension File. Children by Rachel S. Kaightlinger: i James Sylvester McLimans, b. 3-Jul-1860, Liberty Twp., Grant, WI. Listed as James S. in the 1860 Grant Co., WI census, Sylvester in the 1880 Iowa census as well as Henry's pension file application. 2. ii Nancy b. 1-Jun-1862. Second Generation 2. Nancy McLimans, b. 1-Jun-1862, Grant Co., WI. She married James Philamalee, 30-Mar-1879, in Blue River, Waterstown Twp., Grant, WI, (son of William Philamalee and Nancy ____). Source for Marriage: Grant Co., WI Marriages, Book 9, Pg. 52. The marriage record for Nancy states that she is the daughter of Henry and Margaret (Unknown) McClimans, however, Henry's pension application states that he only had two children and they were both by his first wife, Rachel Kaightlinger. Nancy may have stated Margaret since that was her father's wife at the time. Per Memorable Happenings in the Grant Co. Herald Newspaper, 1870-1879, compiled by Cheryl D. Lemanski, James marriage is recorded in the 3 Apr 1879 issue of the Herald. It is interesting that Nancy married in Grant Co., WI since her father remained in Boone Co., IA from 1870-85. She likely met James while visiting family in WI. Birthdate of 1 Jun 1862 per Henry's Civil War pension file. In an Apr 1898 document Henry gives! 1 Jun 1862 as her birthdate; in Mar 1915 he states __ Jun 1862. Per Bob Howe (Bhowegen47@aol.com), Kansas City MO, Jan 2002, Nancy's obituary states that she was born on 10 Jul 1862. James: The Grant Co., WI marriage records also include the marriage of a James Philamalee to Josephine (Harrison) Brown on 15 Feb 1874. This James is also recorded as the son of William and Nancy (Unknown) Philamalee. Children: i Henry Harvey Philamalee, b. 4-Dec-1883, Boscobel, Grant, WI. Source: Grant Co., WI Birth Records, Vol. 1, No. 1518. I'd be interested in knowing your tie to this line. My McLimans line is found at: http://members.cowtown.net/dtaft/ What is posted above is more than on my site. Dave Taft Arlington, TX

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kitelinger, Kaightlinger, Mcliman, Mclimans, McClimans Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/88.91 Message Board Post: I would be very interested to know where you came upon the info about Rachel Kitelinger. I have some info, but it conflicts with yours, mostly dates and such. Rachel Kitelinger ( ? Kaightlinger ? ) was my great great grandmother, with Henry Mclimans. Please E-mail me with any info or requests, since i dont often check this site. Thank you.

There is indeed a list for old photos! Go to: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/VINTAGE-PHOTOS.html VINTAGE-PHOTOS-L Topic: A mailing list for the discussion and sharing of information regarding vintage photos including, but not restricted to, proper storage, preservation, restoration, ageing and dating, restoration software, photo types and materials used, restoration assistance, and scanning options. Always digging for my roots, Kathie Harrison Lancaster Co. Coordinator, NEGenWeb Project http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/lancindex.html To understand the living you must commune with the dead.

Also, I took my scrap book to a color copy machine at a reputable copy center, copied both vintage black and white and color full scrap book pages on the color copier. The duplication quality is superb and can be used for photo restoration programs, which I have done myself with my program with complete success. A color copy is less expensive. I have then taken the page, scanned it into my program, resized an individual photo image, did some restoration, and have a better than average duplication of the selected photo. My individual photos just lifted off the page otherwise, for further information I would follow David Taft's instruction. Marilyn Packel

At 02:02 PM 7/5/2002 EDT, you wrote: >Can someone tell me how to unglue pictures from a scrape book that has been >glued back to back. I don't know of a way to do this. My advice is, before you try ANYTHING, scan or color-photocopy the pictures. This way, if an important photo tears or is otherwise damaged, you will have a "backup." [Mari, is there a special list for this sort of query-and-response?]

I took mine to a Kodak picture maker machine and made duplicates. It can get pricey if you have many, but we often see them for $4.99 in my area. You can always scan the whole page with multiple photos and print them as an 8 1/2 X 11. ----- Original Message ----- From: <DPayne7378@aol.com> To: <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 1:02 PM Subject: [WIGRANT] Glued Pictures > Can someone tell me how to unglue pictures from a scrape book that has been > glued back to back. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

There's a product called, UN-DO which is an adhesive remover. It can be purchased at most craft stores where they sell scrapbooking. It works well as long as you take it slow and yes, it's a good idea to try to get a copy first. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: <DPayne7378@aol.com> To: <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: [WIGRANT] Glued Pictures > Can someone tell me how to unglue pictures from a scrape book that has been > glued back to back. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

One place to review is Cyndi's List for Photographs: http://www.cyndislist.com/photos.htm You may find an answer there or links to professionals who might be able to help. Dave Taft _______________________________________ Sent via the Cowtown Net WebMail system

Can someone tell me how to unglue pictures from a scrape book that has been glued back to back.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Farrand Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/427.2 Message Board Post: Karen, Here is a Family Tree Maker web page on the Farrand’s including Quincy (at least partial), Nathaniel, Ira, and back through Jared, William, Andrew, to Thomas Farrand/Ferrand(born Abt. 1678 in Charlestown, Suffolk, Massachusetts?): http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/o/p/Sandra-Popiel/index.html Here is the page that includes Ira’s family: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/o/p/Sandra-Popiel/BOOK-0001/0004-0005.html?Welcome=1025807897 Just click on the numbers next to the children to follow the line. Included is a note with the obituary of Catherine (Steele) Farrand: Grant County Herald 24 Nov 1887, [contributed by Eleanor L Wenzel] At here home, south of Hurricane on the evening of the 12th of Nov. Mrs. Catherine Farrand died. She had been in ill health for some time past, but her trials are over now. Catherine Jane Steel was born in Syracuse, N.Y., April 18, 1834 of Christian parents and was early taught the way of life. Her parents moved from their home in New York when she was three years old to Oakland County, Michigan where in 1852 she was married to N.J. Farrand, whom she leaves to mourn her loss. They came to the Hurricane in 1863 and have lived in and near it ever since. Her life gave evidence of a pure mind and an honest heart. She as loved and respected by all who knew her. She was buried in the grave yard east of V.H. Kiney's or - Hillside Cemetery, Lancaster, Wisconsin. Guess this line isn't as much of a mystery any longer. Dave Taft