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As a person born amidst Catholics, my understanding was always that the "odd name" or "names" were usually for Saints and received at baptism. In the case of Prince Charles--of the Church of England persuasion-- isn't his litagy of names for the same reason? In German naming conventions, the first male was often named for his father or godfather. (Who was named for a Saint or someone from the Bible. ) Kathleen

Hi, Beverly. Not knowing what your source of information is, I might be completely off on this theory, but for what it's worth: You say that Ludwig's son's name is listed as Louis Karl Julius followed by (Ludwig). Perhaps the parenthetical indicates that Ludwig is the father of Louis. Following this convention, the listing of (John Bernard) after Ludwig's name might indicate that John Bernard is Ludwig's father. >My gggrandfather, Ludwig Karl Julius, settled in Grant County ca1850. My >source of information lists his name as Ludwig Karl Julius, but in >parenthsis is (John Bernard) supposedly a baptismal name. Can anyone >explain to me the custom. I'm having a hard time understanding the >differences in his names. He had a son named Louis Karl Julius (Ludwig) as >baptismal name. That one makes sense to me the other doesn't. Any help >would be greatly appreciated. Beverly Miller Mary Thiele Fobian Independent Writer/Editor Associate Editor, Reunions Magazine

Mary, my source of information is the greatgrandson of Ludwig. I know that Ludwig was my GGrandfather's name as it appears in the Liberty Township Census of 1860. It also listed Louis (Ludwig) and the other children. Including my Greatgrandfather Henry. The Ggrandson of Ludwig, Kenneth Julius, did a family booklet listing all of the early families. Those are the only two names that show that identification. The only thing that I can't figure out is how John Bernard could be a baptismal name for Ludwig Karl. I have just made connections with the Julius family that remained in Wisconsin and they can't answer the question either. Ludwig and family were Methodists and belonged to the German Methodist Church in Stitzer. I am wondering if it was the practice among that generation of Germans. My father's family also came from Germany, but from a different sector and were Lutheran. Thank you for the thought it is a possibility. If nothing else I will continue to search for the answer. Beverly on 8/20/02 9:37 PM, Mary Thiele Fobian at METAPHOR4@sbcglobal.net wrote: > Hi, Beverly. > > Not knowing what your source of information is, I > might be completely off on this theory, but for what > it's worth: > > You say that Ludwig's son's name is listed as Louis > Karl Julius followed by (Ludwig). Perhaps the > parenthetical indicates that Ludwig is the father of > Louis. Following this convention, the listing of > (John Bernard) after Ludwig's name might indicate that > John Bernard is Ludwig's father. > > > >> My gggrandfather, Ludwig Karl Julius, settled in > Grant County ca1850. My >> source of information lists his name as Ludwig Karl > Julius, but in >> parenthsis is (John Bernard) supposedly a baptismal > name. Can anyone >> explain to me the custom. I'm having a hard time > understanding the >> differences in his names. He had a son named Louis > Karl Julius (Ludwig) as >> baptismal name. That one makes sense to me the other > doesn't. Any help >> would be greatly appreciated. Beverly Miller > > > Mary Thiele Fobian > Independent Writer/Editor > Associate Editor, Reunions Magazine > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Di, What a cool site for Iowa maps. Thanks for the information. Dave Taft

My gggrandfather, Ludwig Karl Julius, settled in Grant County ca1850. My source of information lists his name as Ludwig Karl Julius, but in parenthsis is (John Bernard) supposedly a baptismal name. Can anyone explain to me the custom. I'm having a hard time understanding the differences in his names. He had a son named Louis Karl Julius (Ludwig) as baptismal name. That one makes sense to me the other doesn't. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Beverly Miller

I have installed "Norton Internet Security 2002". Since the installation I have not received any messages from the Grant County List. Would someone please send a message to the List so I can see if it gets through to me........ Thanks........ Don

List, Here is a link to the National Park Service's Civil War Soldiers and Sailors Database: http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/ It includes searchable data on Union and Confederate Soldiers and Sailors. Want to know more about a battle, battlefield, regiment, etc.? This is the place for you. It doesn't have much on cemeteries or prisoners, but is a good "free" place to search for your Civil War ancestors. A good overview of what is available is found at: http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/info.htm Dave Taft Arlington, TX Home Page: http://members.cowtown.net/dtaft/ Taft Genealogy Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~taft/ "A people that take no pride in the noble achievements of remote ancestors will never achieve anything worthy to be remembered with pride by remote generations." --Macaulay

from the Muscoda Progressive, August 1, 2002 Pulaski Presbyterian Plans to Dissolve Congregation at Year's End Members of Pulaski Presbyterian Church, rural Muscoda, voted at a special meeting Sunday, July 21, to dissolve the congregation effective December 29. The Pulaski Presbyterian Church was organized by 27 people May 24, 1862. The orginal church was a log building, located on the hillside where the church cemetery is now located. The current building was erected in 1873 at a cost of $2,000. Plans are being made for a worship event to celebrate the more than 140 years of ministry by the people of the Pulaski Church.

I really do appreciate the help I have been given in the past and probably will in the future. I just came from the Black Hills Genealogical Society for Research. I understand that we are in the process of getting a website so that people like me will begin to get some answers. I am also on the Iowa Website and have received good help there also. I'm still looking for answers. Dave, you seem to know what is availbable through the Register of Deeds or Clerk of Court offices. I have several things I am looking for. I am trying to find out if my GGGrandfather Ludwig Karl Julius, my GGGrandmother, Catherine, my GGGGrandmother, my GGrandfather Henry Julius or any of his siblings became naturalized citizens. Do I need to check with the same office? I also would like marriage certificates for GGrandfather Henry Julius and GGrandmother Anna Hallenberger; my grandfather Adolph Julius and Kittie Ann Baker. I also need to find out if there are birth certificates for Adolph and his brothers and sisters. I show Henry and Anna; Emma, Adolph, Anna Katherina, Charles, Louis, Fred, John or Alma Julius. I also need to know the cost for each of these as I may have to budget them into my budget. One of the biggest challenges I face is that there is only the mention that GGGGrandmother Julius came with the family from Darmstadt, Germany sometime in the 1850s. A very nice lady from the Society sent me tombstone readings for the Methodist Church cemetery. However, my GGGGrandmother died in Liberty, before they moved to Stitzer and was buried in an unmarked grave in a lot that was later sold to Brihl family. I don't even know that the grave still exists. Thanks to all of you who responded to my google question. Bev

Earlene, As for the Karrmann Library in Platteville, here is a link with their hours and phone number. During the summer they are closed more than in the school year: http://www.uwplatt.edu/~swwis/hours.htmlx Here is what they show: Semester Hours: Sunday and Monday 1:00 p.m.-5:00 p.m. Tuesday 1:00 p.m.-9:00 p.m. Wednesday through Friday 1:00 p.m.-9:00 p.m. Saturday CLOSED Summer Hours: Monday, Wednesday and Thursday 1:00 p.m.- 5:00 p.m. Tuesday 1:00 p.m.- 9:00 p.m. Friday 1:00 p.m.- 4:00 p.m. Saturday and Sunday CLOSED Closed Memorial and Labor Day Weekends SW Wisconsin Room Karrmann Library University of Wisconsin-Platteville One University Plaza Platteville, WI 53818 (608) 342-1719 Email: swwis@uwplatt.edu Information on the Veterans Museum is available at: http://museum.dva.state.wi.us/ The museum is open: Monday - Saturday, 9 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. (year-round); Sunday, noon to 4 p.m. (April - September) The Wisconsin Veterans Museum 30 W. Mifflin St. Madison, WI 53703 (608) 267-1799 E-mail: Veterans.Museum@dva.state.wi.us Regards, Dave Taft

Roxanne, I'm not related and have no other details on this death, but can provide the following: From, "Highlights of The Fennimore Times, alias Times Review, 1889-1899," compiled by Cheryl D. Lemanski: Townsend, Mr., kills wife Sept, 1885. Also, Olive Watson Townsend died Sep 1885. Both recorded in the 19 Mar 1897 issue of the Fennimore Times. Hard to say what else this issue might contain, but it might be worth requesting. To get a copy of the article, you should write to the Dwight T. Parker Library in Fennimore, WI. I would send them a self addressed stamped envelope and a couple dollars with your request and they will probably copy it for you. The address is: Dwight T. Parker Public Library 955 Lincoln Ave. Fennimore, WI 53809 608-822-6294 As for the court records, I've never requested anything like that before. They may be available, but might cost a few bucks to get copies. They should be in the Courthouse in Lancaster. For that I would recommend hiring a local research like LaVon Hall. I don't know her current rates, but years ago it was $5/hr plus copies. Copies might be the expensive part. You can write to her at: LaVon Hall 449 S. Harrison St. Lancaster, WI 53813 Hope this helps out. Dave Taft Arlington, TX

google is a search engine like excite or altavista........just another way to search the web. that's all you go to google.com for that. otherwise u can also go to metacrawler for an even better search engine ----- Original Message ----- From: Oldcherub To: WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 5:03 PM Subject: [WIGRANT] Re: google I have a question to ask. What is a google search? I must be really slow, but it has only been the last few months that I have seen it mentioned. I finally decided to ask what it is. Thanks. Bev ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Southwest Wisconsin Room at UW Platteville http://www.uwplatt.edu/~swwis/ Veteran's Museum on the Capitol Square in Madison http://museum.dva.state.wi.us/ Don't miss visiting the Historical Society Library in Madison http://www.shsw.wisc.edu/research/index.html Their card catalog is on-line, so you can plan your research before you arrive. http://www.shsw.wisc.edu/library/index.html OK1WE1@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone know the hours of the library at Platteville and also of the > Veteran's Museum in Madison? We're planning a trip over there in a week or > so and don't want to have either of them closed when we get there. I don't > have the E-Mail address for either, so that would be helpful if anyone has > them Thanks. Earlene Hutsell OK1WE1@aol.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 8/16/2002 4:15:37 PM Central Standard Time, oldcherub@rap.midco.net writes: > What is a google search? Bev, Google is a search engine....like Yahoo, etc. Go to www.google.com and you will find a box to type in. If your doing a surname search.....type it as follows; "john doe" and hit enter. By putting what your looking for in quotations, the search is directed to exactly the name/place your searching. Also........NEVER be afraid or embarassed to ask questions! You have no idea how many I've ask over the years and 'genealogy' people are, for the most part, really nice, helpful folks. Good luck! Lin

In a message dated 08/16/2002 14:15:37 PM US Mountain Standard Time, oldcherub@rap.midco.net writes: > > I have a question to ask. What is a google search? I must be really slow, > but it has only been the last few months that I have seen it mentioned. I > finally decided to ask what it is. Thanks. Bev > > > Hi, A "google" search is using the search engine: www.google.com Kathleen

www.google.com is a search engine Sometimes when need for information or research cannot be met on your common web site, type in the above address, you may find what you are searching for there. Happiness is finding what we are in search of. Try it and "have fun." Marilyn Schneider Packel

Go to www.google.com, then type in whatever word/name, and it just pops up the most interesting stuff! Good Luck!

http://www.google.com/ check it out. It is a search engine like Yahoo! Actually, Yahoo! is powered by Google. Usually when other search engines cannot find anything Google comes up with something. I have found google to be the best search engine. Dogpile is another good one! -- Thanks, Sandy http://www.geocities.com/scarletgen/index.html Grant County, WI Biographies~Part of Wisconsin Biographies *NEW* My other website: http://www.rootssearch.net/mygensite/sscarletgen/ Searching for the Ancestry of John ATTEBERRY Oldcherub <oldcherub@rap.midco.net> wrote: >I have a question to ask.  What is a google search?  I must be really slow, >but it has only been the last few months that I have seen it mentioned.  I >finally decided to ask what it is.  Thanks.  Bev > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

Veteran's Museum: http://museum.dva.state.wi.us/ Karrmann LibraryL http://www.uwplatt.edu/~library/summerhours.htmlx August 3-18: Saturday and Sunday CLOSED Monday through Friday 7:30 a.m.- 4:00 p.m. August 19-20: Monday and Tuesday 7:45 a.m.- 4:15 p.m Platteville Public Library (just down the street from KArrmann) http://platteville.wi.us/localinfo/library.html 65 South Elm Street Library hours: Monday - Thursday from 9:00am to 8:00pm Friday and Saturday from 9:00am to 6:00pm Sunday from 1:00-6:00pm. Public Library Holdings: Biographical record of Rock, Green, Grant, Iowa and Lafayette counties Civil War Veterans 1890-1900 Grant County Census 1850-1920 except 1890 Grant County Witness 26 May 1859 - Dec 1906 Platteville Examiner 11 Feb 1858 - 27 May 1858 Platteville Independent American 11 Jan 1845 - 23 Oct 1857 Platteville Journal 22 Feb 1901 - Dec 1994 Platteville Witness 1907-1937 State Census for Grant County 1905 United Methodist Church of Platteville 1841-1943 ministerial records Wisconsin County Histories 1900 no. 85-86 Wisconsin Necrology 1846-1944 - Eileen Minnesota ----- Original Message ----- From: <OK1WE1@aol.com> To: <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 11:10 AM Subject: [WIGRANT] library hours > Does anyone know the hours of the library at Platteville and also of the > Veteran's Museum in Madison? We're planning a trip over there in a week or > so and don't want to have either of them closed when we get there. I don't > have the E-Mail address for either, so that would be helpful if anyone has > them Thanks. Earlene Hutsell OK1WE1@aol.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >