Hi, Judi. I don't find any marriage for Lena Henkel in either "1835-1900" or "pre-1907" Wisconsin databases; there are several William Roach listings (but no wives named Lena). >I am looking for the marriage date and place for: >HENKEL, Lena and ROCHE, William - between 1900-1905. > >Lena was single and living in Cassville in 1900; married and living in >Chicago, IL in 1905. ==================== Mary Thiele Fobian Independent Writer/Editor

Judi, I couldn't find anything in the Grant Co., WI marriage records for these two. Dave

I am looking for the marriage date and place for: HENKEL, Lena and ROCHE, William - between 1900-1905. Lena was single and living in Cassville in 1900; married and living in Chicago, IL in 1905. Thank you, Judi --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.391 / Virus Database: 222 - Release Date: 9/19/02

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Thompson, Sheedy Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lEC.2ACE/488.1 Message Board Post: Jay, I have a theory about Charles and Mary A., but this could be all wrong if your birthdates for the children are correct. Per the Grant Co., WI marriage records: Charles Thompson married Mary Ann Sheedy, 1 Jan 1853, recorded in Book 1, Pg. 29. Charles is recorded as the son of John and Ann (Unknown) Thompson. Mary Ann the daughter of John and Mary (Unknown) Sheedy. The 1860 census provides some support that this couple is who you seek. 1860 Census, Patch Grove, Grant, WI, Pg. 500, 5 Jun 1860, Household 58 Charles Thompson, 26, Farmer, $2200, $420, MI Terr. Mary A., 25, IRE John, 6, WI Montier, 4, WI William, 1, WI This census indicates that John was born about 1854 which fit's with a marriage date of January 1853. Hope this helps. Dave Taft Arlington, TX

Michael, according to my road atlas Stitzer still exists. I know that my Gggrandfather Ludwig Julius was a farmer and that my Ggrandfather was also. In fact, my grandfather was also a farmer. So I hear what you are saying. Thanks for the information. Beverly Miller on 9/25/02 2:04 PM, Michael Hampton at mhampton@stny.rr.com wrote: Beverly, I'm sure you have already heard this, but Stitzer is in Liberty Township, so they may have been in Stitzer but are listed as being in Liberty Township on the census. My mother was born on a farm just outside of Stitzer (which isn't hard to do if you've ever seen Stitzer, it's SMALL), but her birth certificate says Liberty Township. That may be why they're listed in Liberty instead of Stitzer. I'm not sure if Liberty exists anymore or if it's simply even smaller than Stitzer nowadays. Michael Hampton Researching; Budd, Hampton, Clauer, Gates, Morse, Kaufman, Hutchcroft, Dudley, Porter, Griggs, and other related families in Wisconsin, New York, New England and Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oldcherub" <oldcherub@rap.midco.net> To: <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 9:38 PM Subject: [WIGRANT] Re: Liberty, Grant County and Stitzer, Grant County I have just received some information from the 1880 Census of Liberty, Grant County, Wisconsin from Pat Smith. It lists my GGgrandfather Ludwig and Gggrandmother Catherine Julius, my Ggreat-uncle Louis and Ggreat-Aunt Elizabeth Julius and family; and my ggreatgrandfather Henry and Ggreatgrandmother Anna and family as being in Liberty. My confusion comes because the family history that I have says that Gggrandfather Ludwig, Gggrandmother Catherine and their children lived for awhile in Liberty upon their arrival in America, but later moved to Stitzer. The family history shows Ggreat-uncle Louis marrying Ggreat-aunt Elizabeth in the Methodist Church in Stitzer. The information also contains some information on a possible link between the Juliuses and Henkels. The Henkels are listed as being from Beetown, Grant County, Wisconsin. If anyone has any information on the descendants of Henry and Elizabeth Henkel I would be very interested as it was the family of Katherine and Heinrich Henkel that helped compile the information for the family records in 1967. I know that this is confusing, as I am confused by it also. As far as I know, none of the family remains in Stitzer or Liberty. The descendants of Louis and Elizabeth Julius have settled in Eastern Wisconsin, the descendants of Henry and Anna are scattered between Iowa, Nebraska, South Dakota and Wyoming. I have been able to contact several of both branches, but have not been able to make a connection with the sisters of Louis and Henry. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Beverly Miller ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lEC.2ACE/414.1 Message Board Post: I'm researching the same family...(the Georgius line) have you found anything on Cathrina and Heinrich (real names)?

Thanks to all of you who have answered my questions about Liberty/Stitzer. I know that Stitzer still exists as I found it in a relatively new atlas. I will check out the Karrman Library Website to see if I can find out anymore information. Bev

Naturalization records for Grant Co. and other counties in the SW corner of the state are kept in the SW Wisconsin Room at Platteville. See http://vms.www.uwplatt.edu/~swwis/ for more info. Bill Smith Solon, IA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oldcherub" <oldcherub@rap.midco.net> To: <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 3:41 PM Subject: [WIGRANT] Re: Is the 1850 Census complete? > I need to find out if my GGrandfather Ludwig C. JULIUS was in Wisconsin in > 1850. The history I have says about 1850, but that could mean anywhere > between 1840 and 1860. > > I have been told that the Naturalization records are at a University > Library. Is there a phone number, street address or e-mail address that I > can contact? Were wives required to become naturalized citizens also or > just the men? > > Thank you for all the help you have given me in the past. I'm just looking > for more help. > > Bev Miller > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Michael, Liberty [Ridge] as a town doesn't exist, there are maybe 5 houses. But the Liberty Ridge church still has weekly services, there is a cemetery adjoining the church. Sandy Garthwaite-Zart

Hi Dick, I think you misunderstood my comment. Does Liberty still exist? I know the township does. I understand that these are more or less permanent, but the does the town itself still exist? Stitzer was never a township as far as I know. It has always been within Liberty Township. According to mom, Stitzer is not much different in size now from when she was a little girl. Although, according to my aunt Linda Watchorn who lives there, Stitzer used to have more businesses than it does now. Michael Hampton Researching; Budd, Hampton, Clauer, Gates, Morse, Kaufman, Hutchcroft, Dudley, Porter, Griggs, and other related families in Wisconsin, New York, New England and Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard P. Ploessl" <dploessl@galesburg.net> To: <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [WIGRANT] Re: Liberty, Grant County and Stitzer, Grant County > Townships do not go away, they are a geographical entity. They are usually > 36 square miles of land which may be all rural or there may be some > settlement(town) within their borders. Towns or cities may dry up and cease > to exist but the township remains because the land remains. Liberty township > is just Northeast of the county seat and is still there. > Stitzer MAY have dwindled to a small settlement and no longer be qualified > to be called a town, but the township will remain. > > Dick Ploessl > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Hampton <mhampton@stny.rr.com> > To: WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 25 September, 2002 15:02 > Subject: Re: [WIGRANT] Re: Liberty, Grant County and Stitzer, Grant County > > > >Beverly, > > > >I'm sure you have already heard this, but Stitzer is in Liberty Township, > so > >they may have been in Stitzer but are listed as being in Liberty Township > on > >the census. My mother was born on a farm just outside of Stitzer (which > >isn't hard to do if you've ever seen Stitzer, it's SMALL), but her birth > >certificate says Liberty Township. That may be why they're listed in > >Liberty instead of Stitzer. I'm not sure if Liberty exists anymore or if > >it's simply even smaller than Stitzer nowadays. > > > >Michael Hampton > > > >Researching; Budd, Hampton, Clauer, Gates, Morse, Kaufman, Hutchcroft, > >Dudley, Porter, Griggs, and other related families in Wisconsin, New York, > >New England and Virginia > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Oldcherub" <oldcherub@rap.midco.net> > >To: <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 9:38 PM > >Subject: [WIGRANT] Re: Liberty, Grant County and Stitzer, Grant County > > > > > >> I have just received some information from the 1880 Census of Liberty, > >Grant > >> County, Wisconsin from Pat Smith. It lists my GGgrandfather Ludwig and > >> Gggrandmother Catherine Julius, my Ggreat-uncle Louis and Ggreat-Aunt > >> Elizabeth Julius and family; and my ggreatgrandfather Henry and > >> Ggreatgrandmother Anna and family as being in Liberty. My confusion > comes > >> because the family history that I have says that Gggrandfather Ludwig, > >> Gggrandmother Catherine and their children lived for awhile in Liberty > >upon > >> their arrival in America, but later moved to Stitzer. The family history > >> shows Ggreat-uncle Louis marrying Ggreat-aunt Elizabeth in the Methodist > >> Church in Stitzer. The information also contains some information on a > >> possible link between the Juliuses and Henkels. The Henkels are listed > as > >> being from Beetown, Grant County, Wisconsin. > >> If anyone has any information on the descendants of Henry and > >Elizabeth > >> Henkel I would be very interested as it was the family of Katherine and > >> Heinrich Henkel that helped compile the information for the family > records > >> in 1967. > >> I know that this is confusing, as I am confused by it also. As far > as > >I > >> know, none of the family remains in Stitzer or Liberty. The descendants > >of > >> Louis and Elizabeth Julius have settled in Eastern Wisconsin, the > >> descendants of Henry and Anna are scattered between Iowa, Nebraska, South > >> Dakota and Wyoming. I have been able to contact several of both > branches, > >> but have not been able to make a connection with the sisters of Louis and > >> Henry. > >> Any information will be greatly appreciated. Beverly Miller > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > >> > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Townships do not go away, they are a geographical entity. They are usually 36 square miles of land which may be all rural or there may be some settlement(town) within their borders. Towns or cities may dry up and cease to exist but the township remains because the land remains. Liberty township is just Northeast of the county seat and is still there. Stitzer MAY have dwindled to a small settlement and no longer be qualified to be called a town, but the township will remain. Dick Ploessl -----Original Message----- From: Michael Hampton <mhampton@stny.rr.com> To: WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 25 September, 2002 15:02 Subject: Re: [WIGRANT] Re: Liberty, Grant County and Stitzer, Grant County >Beverly, > >I'm sure you have already heard this, but Stitzer is in Liberty Township, so >they may have been in Stitzer but are listed as being in Liberty Township on >the census. My mother was born on a farm just outside of Stitzer (which >isn't hard to do if you've ever seen Stitzer, it's SMALL), but her birth >certificate says Liberty Township. That may be why they're listed in >Liberty instead of Stitzer. I'm not sure if Liberty exists anymore or if >it's simply even smaller than Stitzer nowadays. > >Michael Hampton > >Researching; Budd, Hampton, Clauer, Gates, Morse, Kaufman, Hutchcroft, >Dudley, Porter, Griggs, and other related families in Wisconsin, New York, >New England and Virginia > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Oldcherub" <oldcherub@rap.midco.net> >To: <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 9:38 PM >Subject: [WIGRANT] Re: Liberty, Grant County and Stitzer, Grant County > > >> I have just received some information from the 1880 Census of Liberty, >Grant >> County, Wisconsin from Pat Smith. It lists my GGgrandfather Ludwig and >> Gggrandmother Catherine Julius, my Ggreat-uncle Louis and Ggreat-Aunt >> Elizabeth Julius and family; and my ggreatgrandfather Henry and >> Ggreatgrandmother Anna and family as being in Liberty. My confusion comes >> because the family history that I have says that Gggrandfather Ludwig, >> Gggrandmother Catherine and their children lived for awhile in Liberty >upon >> their arrival in America, but later moved to Stitzer. The family history >> shows Ggreat-uncle Louis marrying Ggreat-aunt Elizabeth in the Methodist >> Church in Stitzer. The information also contains some information on a >> possible link between the Juliuses and Henkels. The Henkels are listed as >> being from Beetown, Grant County, Wisconsin. >> If anyone has any information on the descendants of Henry and >Elizabeth >> Henkel I would be very interested as it was the family of Katherine and >> Heinrich Henkel that helped compile the information for the family records >> in 1967. >> I know that this is confusing, as I am confused by it also. As far as >I >> know, none of the family remains in Stitzer or Liberty. The descendants >of >> Louis and Elizabeth Julius have settled in Eastern Wisconsin, the >> descendants of Henry and Anna are scattered between Iowa, Nebraska, South >> Dakota and Wyoming. I have been able to contact several of both branches, >> but have not been able to make a connection with the sisters of Louis and >> Henry. >> Any information will be greatly appreciated. Beverly Miller >> >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Beverly, I'm sure you have already heard this, but Stitzer is in Liberty Township, so they may have been in Stitzer but are listed as being in Liberty Township on the census. My mother was born on a farm just outside of Stitzer (which isn't hard to do if you've ever seen Stitzer, it's SMALL), but her birth certificate says Liberty Township. That may be why they're listed in Liberty instead of Stitzer. I'm not sure if Liberty exists anymore or if it's simply even smaller than Stitzer nowadays. Michael Hampton Researching; Budd, Hampton, Clauer, Gates, Morse, Kaufman, Hutchcroft, Dudley, Porter, Griggs, and other related families in Wisconsin, New York, New England and Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oldcherub" <oldcherub@rap.midco.net> To: <WIGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 9:38 PM Subject: [WIGRANT] Re: Liberty, Grant County and Stitzer, Grant County > I have just received some information from the 1880 Census of Liberty, Grant > County, Wisconsin from Pat Smith. It lists my GGgrandfather Ludwig and > Gggrandmother Catherine Julius, my Ggreat-uncle Louis and Ggreat-Aunt > Elizabeth Julius and family; and my ggreatgrandfather Henry and > Ggreatgrandmother Anna and family as being in Liberty. My confusion comes > because the family history that I have says that Gggrandfather Ludwig, > Gggrandmother Catherine and their children lived for awhile in Liberty upon > their arrival in America, but later moved to Stitzer. The family history > shows Ggreat-uncle Louis marrying Ggreat-aunt Elizabeth in the Methodist > Church in Stitzer. The information also contains some information on a > possible link between the Juliuses and Henkels. The Henkels are listed as > being from Beetown, Grant County, Wisconsin. > If anyone has any information on the descendants of Henry and Elizabeth > Henkel I would be very interested as it was the family of Katherine and > Heinrich Henkel that helped compile the information for the family records > in 1967. > I know that this is confusing, as I am confused by it also. As far as I > know, none of the family remains in Stitzer or Liberty. The descendants of > Louis and Elizabeth Julius have settled in Eastern Wisconsin, the > descendants of Henry and Anna are scattered between Iowa, Nebraska, South > Dakota and Wyoming. I have been able to contact several of both branches, > but have not been able to make a connection with the sisters of Louis and > Henry. > Any information will be greatly appreciated. Beverly Miller > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I need to find out if my GGrandfather Ludwig C. JULIUS was in Wisconsin in 1850. The history I have says about 1850, but that could mean anywhere between 1840 and 1860. I have been told that the Naturalization records are at a University Library. Is there a phone number, street address or e-mail address that I can contact? Were wives required to become naturalized citizens also or just the men? Thank you for all the help you have given me in the past. I'm just looking for more help. Bev Miller

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Thompson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lEC.2ACE/488 Message Board Post: I'm looking for more information concerning Charles Thompson, b. May 3, 1831 in Wisconsin. He married "Mary A" who was born 1833 in Ireland. Both died in Wahpeton, ND in the late 1800s. Their children were born in Patch Grove or in Mt. Hope. John D. b. 1852, Montier b. 1854, William, Charles born after that. I've hit a dead end trying to figure out who Charles' parents are and what "Mary A"s maiden name is. I found in the BLM land records that there were some land plots given to Charles, Robert, John, and John Jr. right near Patch Grove. As well as some land to John near Mt. Hope. I don't know if this is "my" Charles Thompson or not. If he is "my" Charles T. then I don't know who the other Thompsons (brother, father, uncle) are. Does anyone have any other information about this Thompson family or clues as to where I might find more information? Thanks. Jay B

I have just received some information from the 1880 Census of Liberty, Grant County, Wisconsin from Pat Smith. It lists my GGgrandfather Ludwig and Gggrandmother Catherine Julius, my Ggreat-uncle Louis and Ggreat-Aunt Elizabeth Julius and family; and my ggreatgrandfather Henry and Ggreatgrandmother Anna and family as being in Liberty. My confusion comes because the family history that I have says that Gggrandfather Ludwig, Gggrandmother Catherine and their children lived for awhile in Liberty upon their arrival in America, but later moved to Stitzer. The family history shows Ggreat-uncle Louis marrying Ggreat-aunt Elizabeth in the Methodist Church in Stitzer. The information also contains some information on a possible link between the Juliuses and Henkels. The Henkels are listed as being from Beetown, Grant County, Wisconsin. If anyone has any information on the descendants of Henry and Elizabeth Henkel I would be very interested as it was the family of Katherine and Heinrich Henkel that helped compile the information for the family records in 1967. I know that this is confusing, as I am confused by it also. As far as I know, none of the family remains in Stitzer or Liberty. The descendants of Louis and Elizabeth Julius have settled in Eastern Wisconsin, the descendants of Henry and Anna are scattered between Iowa, Nebraska, South Dakota and Wyoming. I have been able to contact several of both branches, but have not been able to make a connection with the sisters of Louis and Henry. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Beverly Miller

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/487.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for the information it is greatly appriecated. Dale

I was unable to received this message. Was there a problem in transmitting it. Thank You ----- Original Message ----- From: <WIGRANT-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <WIGRANT-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:02 AM Subject: WIGRANT-D Digest V02 #292

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Byrnes/Udelhoven Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lEC.2ACE/485.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for the information. Unfortunately, these individuals don't appear to match my Udelhovens/Byrnes. The parents of my Agnes Udelhoven was Peter Josef and Maria Katrina. I think these may be Peter's nieces and newphews, of which I have been able to find a lot about. I have a Patrick Byrne but he married Mary Long. And my Fanny Byrne never married, kept house for a Priest. William Udelhoven married Lilian Svendsen. Thanks for checking it out for me!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/487.1.1 Message Board Post: It would be interesting to get this marriage record to see whether this is the same Benjamin; perhaps the record would state whether he was single/widowed/divorced prior to this marriage to Jane Lory. from Wisconsin Marriages 1835 to 1900: BEESLEY, BENJAMIN married LORY, JANE on 28 Aug 1864 Grant WI from Wisconsin Marriages pre-1907: Benj Beesley married Jane Luny on 28 Aug 1864 in Grant WI (Vol 03 Page 0253)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/487.1 Message Board Post: BEASLEY, BENJAMIN married CURRY, ROSE on 7 Apr 1842 in Grant WI (Vol 01 Page 0004)