This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/948.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Until the the weather is clear, sign online on your library and see if the books ARE available. If they are, you can get a ride or ask a friend to pick them up for you. Also, as stated in the previous post, you can use your browser like Google, Dogpile, Yahoo, etc. I did a quick search and found several websites for dating photographs.

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In a message dated 12/9/2005 7:02:44 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: On death certificates do it state where in other countries our ancestors were born...other than on the census? Our ancestors Amelia Maurer...born in Prussia and Jacob Thomas...born in Bavaria? >> It depends on who was giving the information. Obviously the person that knows best is dead. Sometimes the person supplying the information is a spouse, child, or even an in-law. I have a death certificate of my ancestor, and the information on it--other than date and place of death--was supplied by the daughter-in-law. I suppose they picked her because the wife was grieving, son was with her, and the daughter-in-law was the next best thing. They could have made a better choice. She got the place of birth wrong (it was his childhood home, not the actual place he was born, because the family moved when he was 5), she got the father wrong (name listed was the father's middle name that he went by), and the mother's maiden name was wrong. The mother married twice, and the name listed was not her birth name, but the name of the first husband that died in the war...which was what she married #2 under. I'm sure she tried her best, but even "official" documents have incorrect information. Regards, Diane Wolford (Researching Michael and Robert Schenk/Schenck of Ellenboro and Mineral Point)

On death certificates do it state where in other countries our ancestors were born...other than on the census? Our ancestors Amelia Maurer...born in Prussia and Jacob Thomas...born in Bavaria? M Goodrich [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:03 PM Subject: [WIGRANT] Re: Look up birth certificate for grandfather in Beetown Wi. > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lEC.2ACE/1015.1.2.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Hello, > Thank you so much for that information. I am recieving many good ways in > which to search from many and I appreciate all the help every one is > giving. I shall correspond with Helen Jentz and get that list as soon as > possible. And thank you very much for correcting that date! Will slow > down when I type and make sure every thing is correct. I am slowly > learning. Thank you again, sincerly, Diana > > > ==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== > Support free volunteer genealogy. > Contribute your data and your time. For details see: > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > RootsWeb supports our research by hosting our mailing list! > Do you support RootsWeb? > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.24/100 - Release Date: 9/13/2005 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lEC.2ACE/1015.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello, Thank you so much for that information. I am recieving many good ways in which to search from many and I appreciate all the help every one is giving. I shall correspond with Helen Jentz and get that list as soon as possible. And thank you very much for correcting that date! Will slow down when I type and make sure every thing is correct. I am slowly learning. Thank you again, sincerly, Diana

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/1015.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Here is a clue as to what may have happened to Aron CHASE's first wife, Emaline PAFFORD. From the index to Death Records of Grant County, Wisconsin, by Kathleen Henderson, there is an entry for a Mrs. CHASE, who died 23 Feb 1892. It is recorded in Vol 2, page 260 of Grant County Death Records. Unfortunately there is no first name of either the husband nor the deceased wife. Also no age is given. Your best shot at finding out if this was indeed Emaline PAFFORD may be to correspond with Helen Jentz of the Grant County Genealogical Society for CHASE cemetery records in Grant County. For $3.00 they will send copies of all their card entries for the CHASE surname within all the cemeteries of Grant County. This may also give you a better clue as to where they resided in Grant County. One more thing, in your message requesting a divorce record you mentioned date of marriage of 1896 when in fact it was 1886, just want to make sure that we keep dates correct.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lEC.2ACE/1018 Message Board Post: I need the assistance in finding a possible divorce record. Aron Chase/Emaline Pafford. Married 22 may 1896. Divorce would have been in next 3 to 4 years. Can not find where my grandfather was born and these might have been his parents. I thought he was born in Grant Wisconsin but no one could find his birth for me there. Will try in Rock next. Is cassville in Grant?Thank you for your time and care in my search, sincerly Diana

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/1016.1.1 Message Board Post: Mary wrote, " Do you know whether Frances was still living when Gordon died in 1986?"- Yes- the info I have is from Gordon Smith's obituary in the Platteville paper circa 1986, and his death certificate. That is all I have to date. "Do you have any idea when she was born?"- no, that was not mentioned in the obituary. He was also survived by Mrs Gabriel (Charlotte) Morales of Big Bear Lake, CA. "Have you already checked whitepages.com to see if Frances is listed?" Yes, no listing. If not, you can check for her and get her exact death date at: "http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/" i am checking this, thank you! Mark

One thing I don't see mentioned in your query is whether you've already contacted the Grant County Genealogical Society to get all KIMMICH burials in Grant County. Have you looked for Mary Ann SWIFT at the International Ship Transcribers Guild website? LaVon David <[email protected]> wrote: Could some one please help us. Can not find death-burial for our Mary Ann-Marianne Swift Kimmich.md Landulin Kimmich. Mary is noted in 1870 census but NOT in 1880 Waterloo,Grant Co. Wi. census. Nothing in Lancaster records-- think maybe need help from St. Thomas Church of Potosi, Grant Co. Wi. Can some one help with Church records. Thank you. Believe Mary came from Ireland about 184? to Benton,Wi. and married there?? 1850 at ? St. Patrick Church to Lanolin Kimmich. Did she come alone?? any other family ?? Thanks for helping us on the road to our family. ========================== Mary Thiele Fobian Genealogical & Historical Research Pacific Grove, California

Could some one please help us. Can not find death-burial for our Mary Ann-Marianne Swift Kimmich.md Landulin Kimmich. Mary is noted in 1870 census but NOT in 1880 Waterloo,Grant Co. Wi. census. Nothing in Lancaster records-- think maybe need help from St. Thomas Church of Potosi, Grant Co. Wi. Can some one help with Church records. Thank you. Believe Mary came from Ireland about 184? to Benton,Wi. and married there?? 1850 at ? St. Patrick Church to Lanolin Kimmich. Did she come alone?? any other family ?? Thanks for helping us on the road to our family.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lEC.2ACE/295.1 Message Board Post: Doed his Civil War Pension state that he served in the 6th WI Infantry???? Don [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lEC.2ACE/1015.4.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi, This is the census I had found but I did not know how to read it. Looked like Aaron was only married once and thought 3 meant no. in household besides head. I have a lot to learn :} Now I really believe that Sarah Emaline Pafford was my Grandfathers Leroys biolgical mother and great grandfather Aarons first wife. But need to get proof. Thanks Diana

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/1015.4.1.1 Message Board Post: 1910 US Census, IA Scott Buffalo CHASE, Aaron, head, 49 [1861], 2nd marriage/15 years, WI WI WI -Mary, wife, 38 [1872], 2nd marriage/15 years, bore 3 children/3 living, WI WI WI -LeRoy, son, 20,single, WI WI WI -Clarence, son, 18, single, WI WI WI

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lEC.2ACE/1015.4.1 Message Board Post: Hello, I thought the 3 was the amount of people in family beside head. And I thought it said Aaron was married only once. Census is really hard to read and I am really new to all this. Now have a story that my mom has told to me. May help fill in blanks. My grandfather Leroy told my mom he had brothers Seymore , Albert or Alfred, and little sister Mabel who all was adopted out or given away. Said his father Aaron took the children somewhere and they never came back. It really hurt him I guess when this happened. And as for our Clarence have no idea as yet where he was. Mom also said Leroy never was in military that she can recall or never went. As for marriage license it was sent by look up from Iowa. Leroy Chase Address -- Gregory, Missouri; Occupation -- Laborer Age @ next B-day -- 27; B. Place -- Wisconsin Father -- Arron Chase; Mother -- Mary Patris (? spelling of last name) Bertha Fortner Address -- Gregory, Missouri; Age @ next B-day -- 21; B. Place -- Fort Madison, Iowa Father -- John Fortner Mother -- Viola Tigue Witness -- C. A. Wright & Clarence Ora Chase Justice of Peace John Leindecker Thanks Diana

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lEC.2ACE/1015.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi again, No we do not know anything about Clarence and I have been trying to find him. Mom says she thinks Clarence's name might have been metioned but did not know who he was. Thanks for encouraging me a bit more on SSI. It is a lot of money to spend not knowing who my grandfather Leroy's real mother is. My great grandfather Aron was probably married to both women. I think that Mary must have been step mother to my grandfather Leroy and the Emaline was probably Aarons first wife and biological mother to my grandfather. I will try in Rock as you have suggested. My mom says that she believes the familys religion might have been protestant but they really did not practice any faith through a particular church. Thanks Diana

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/1015.4 Message Board Post: Diana, I just took a look at the 1910 census you mentioned. I see that both Aaron and Mary indicate this is their second marriage. Note that Mary has borne 3 children and all 3 are living as of the census enumeration. Because Leroy and Clarence are referred to as "sons" (rather than stepsons) in the census, it appears that is that they are Aaron's children from his marriage to Emeline PAFFORD. However, Aaron may have adopted them, and they may in fact have been Mary's children from her first marriage, so Aaron might not be their biological father. One thing that is bugging me is that I can't find either Clarence or Leroy in the WWI draft cards database. I see Leroy and Bertha in Muscatine in 1920. Do you know where Clarence was? One other idea: you say that Leroy's mother's name is illegible on the marriage license; I assume this is the legal document issued by the county or state. Does the record indicate who married them? If it was a clergyman, there may be a church record of the marriage; that document might be more legible than the civil document.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lEC.2ACE/1015.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Diana, the fee for the SS5 is a bit hefty, but if that's not a consideration, I wouldn't hesitate for a moment. Within a matter of a few weeks you will know who Leroy considered to be his parents and where he believed that he was born. Do you know what became of Leroy's brother Clarence? If it were my own research, I would also get his SS5 to see if parents match up. There's no reason to assume poor handwriting--in fact, the document might be typed. Since there doesn't seem to be a birth record for Leroy in Grant County, you might check adjacent Rock County (that's where Milton Junction is). Just do a google search for the courthouse and call or write to arrange for a birth lookup. You might also contact the Grant County courthouse and inquire about how they have their divorce records indexed. If the Emeline CHASE who is in Beetown in 1900 is Aaron's first wife, there may be divorce records in Grant County. Do you happen to know what religion the family practiced? Once you more or less determine where Aaron and Emeline were circa 1889 (and ditto for Mary PATRI*), it might be worth some inquiries to churches to see if there are baptismal records for Leroy and Clarence, and maybe marriage records for Leroy and Emeline &/or Leroy and Mary.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lEC.2ACE/1015.1.2 Message Board Post: After reviewing what you sent on Aron Chase married to Emaline Pafford I believe that it is a connection. My mother has said my grandfather you to give this long name for her to remember. "Chase sarah emaline hilda matilda pafford chase hill" Now that I see this I believe Emaline could have been wife of Great grandfather Araron Chase and mother to my grandfather Leroy. Thanks again

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lEC.2ACE/1015.3.1 Message Board Post: Hello, My mom just woke up and came in with some info. Think there is a real connection for this Emaline Chase. My mother said grandpa would always give her a bunch of names and said remember these. I thought it was nonsense years ago when she told me this story but now after reviewing this Emaline, think she must have been his mother. Grandpa Leroy said ("Chase sarah emaline hilda matilda pafford chase hill"). So I think that grandpa was giving mother and his granmothers names! Need to look at this Hilda Matilda Pafford Chase. Thanks Diana

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lEC.2ACE/1015.3 Message Board Post: Diana, here is an Emeline CHASE in Beetown in the 1900 census. If Aaron and Mary were married circa 1895, it's possible that this Emeline CHASE (even though she is listed as single) may be the first wife of Aaron and mother of Leroy and Clarence. 1900 US Census, WI Grant Beetown, ED23, Sheet 10B living in the ??? DUNCAN husehold CHASE, Emeline, boarder, Sep 1867, 32, [marital status S has a line or check mark through it), born WI, parents born VA, house servant