Hello all! :) I have been working on my husband's line and found that he has a tie into the Hooser line. I have been trying to see if Emeline Hooser, born in Madison County, Illinois and married Calvin West, was the daughter of Ambrose Hooser? There is a Pheby (Phoebe Hooser) that keeps jumping around from Madison County, Illinois and Grant County, Illinois. I did see that Jacob Hooser did have a son named Ambrose, who died farming in Platteville (this information was found on the Rootsweb Grant County website (Commemorative Biographical Record of the Counties of Rock, Green, Grant, Iowa and Lafayette Wisconsin - 1901). Thanks! :) Dawn **************************************** Dawn D. West

Dawn, Have you already looked in the censuses? Emaline HOOSER of Edwardsville, Madison, IL in 1850 is living in the household of Charles CROCKER--no HOOSER parents to be found. A reference to Ambrose HOOSER's death appeared in Alton Telegraph And Democratic Review (Alton, Illinois) > 1847 > August > 6: GUARDIAN'S NOTICE-- Notice is hereby given, that I shall apply at the next term of the Madison county Circuit Court, to be holden on the third Monday in the month of August next, by petition, for the order and decree of said court, to sell the reasl estate of Ambrose HOOSER, late of Madison county, deceased, for the maintenance and support of the infant heirs of said HOOSER; when and where all persons interested in the said estate may appear and show cause, if any they have, why said real estate should not be sold for such purpose. PHOEBE HOOSER Guardian of the heirs, &c. July 30, 1817-31-31 The Daily Alton Telegraph, The (Alton, Illinois) > 1853 > May > 19 (Madison County) contains a legal notice that begins as follows: "Caroline HOOSER, Ambrose HOOSER, Elizabeth HOOSER, Amy A. HOOSER, Emeline HOOSER & Thomas HOOSER, by their guardian John WEAVER; vs. Mary A. HOLMAN and Nathaniel HOLMAN, her husband, Delilah MOORE, widow, and the unknown heirs of William MOORE, deceased, Catharine TEAS[?], Lucinda HOOSER and Jane HOOSER." The rest of it is barely readable. "Dawn D. West" <[email protected]> wrote: Hello all! :) I have been working on my husband's line and found that he has a tie into the Hooser line. I have been trying to see if Emeline Hooser, born in Madison County, Illinois and married Calvin West, was the daughter of Ambrose Hooser? There is a Pheby (Phoebe Hooser) that keeps jumping around from Madison County, Illinois and Grant County, Illinois. I did see that Jacob Hooser did have a son named Ambrose, who died farming in Platteville (this information was found on the Rootsweb Grant County website (Commemorative Biographical Record of the Counties of Rock, Green, Grant, Iowa and Lafayette Wisconsin - 1901). Thanks! :) Dawn **************************************** Dawn D. West ==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== Neither HTML nor RTF is acceptable for mailing lists. It causes problems for Rootsweb servers and for certain email programs. Please turn these functions off. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx ========================== Mary Thiele Fobian Genealogical & Historical Research Pacific Grove, California

1880 census Wisconsin, Iowa, Highland Jacob Thomas head---age 70---Farmer--Bavaria Amelia wife-----------age 47------------Saxony Barbara Lazer mother-in-law-age 81-----Saxony Jacob son-------------age 23-----------Wisconsin Amelia dau------------age 21------------Wis Josephine dau----------age 17------------Wis Jerrald Lloyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "KENNETH GOODRICH" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [WIGRANT] Barbara Lazer > Interested in knowledge of Barbara Lazer...in census 1880...lived with her > daughter amelia Thomas. M Goodrich > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Thiele Fobian" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 8:34 PM > Subject: [WIGRANT] Christopher GALLAGHER > > >> I'm coming up empty, despite first name only searches, soundex searches, >> wild card searches. >> >> I imagine you already have Patrick's and Bridget's obituaries. Do you >> have their probate and will information? These documents might give some >> indication as to Christopher's whereabouts at the time of his parents' >> deaths. >> >> Since Patrick was a farmer, there may be some county land transfer >> documents following his death; there may be some clue in those resources, >> as well. >> >> Another possibility for clues about where Christopher might have been >> after 1880: county histories (very popular at the end of the 19th and >> beginning of the 20th century). If Patrick's family was described in one >> of these, the narrative might indicate the whereabouts of the grown >> children at the time the history was published. >> >> Sorry I couldn't find anything further. I wish you GOOD LUCK on this >> research. >> >> >> [email protected] wrote: >> My request for census lookup 1930 >> >> Christopher Gallagher >> Born in Illinois Jo Daviess County 1858 >> married ? >> Died ? >> Children ? >> Ida Grove Iowa ...info from his brother's obit in 1939 >> Possibly living with McNamara family...first name unknown. His sister >> Elizabeth was married to P.L. "Leo" McNamara...Christopher was not with >> them in the >> census. >> >> What I have ...census for 1860 , 1870 , 1880 when he lived at home with >> his >> parents in Jo Daviess County IL. Can't find after that. >> >> Thanks so much for your kind offer ! Merry Christmas to you and your >> family >> :) >> >> Leueen Gilley in Colorado >> >> >> ==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >> Chain letters, 'virus warnings' and the like should not be posted to the >> list. Send them to the list admin first for verification of validity: >> Mari at [email protected] >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >> >> ========================== >> Mary Thiele Fobian >> Genealogical & Historical Research >> Pacific Grove, California >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >> If you have any questions or concerns, please e-mail me >> Mari, WIGRANT List Admin at [email protected] >> *--*--*--*--*--*--*Happy Hunting!!*--*--*--*--*--*--* >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== > Send NO attachments of any kind to the list. If your email > program automatically generates attachments for coding, please be sure it > is turned off. If you have a document or other file of interest, please > send it to individual addresses rather than to the list. The guidline > also includes the "vcards" attachments. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Interested in knowledge of Barbara Lazer...in census 1880...lived with her daughter amelia Thomas. M Goodrich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Thiele Fobian" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 8:34 PM Subject: [WIGRANT] Christopher GALLAGHER > I'm coming up empty, despite first name only searches, soundex searches, > wild card searches. > > I imagine you already have Patrick's and Bridget's obituaries. Do you > have their probate and will information? These documents might give some > indication as to Christopher's whereabouts at the time of his parents' > deaths. > > Since Patrick was a farmer, there may be some county land transfer > documents following his death; there may be some clue in those resources, > as well. > > Another possibility for clues about where Christopher might have been > after 1880: county histories (very popular at the end of the 19th and > beginning of the 20th century). If Patrick's family was described in one > of these, the narrative might indicate the whereabouts of the grown > children at the time the history was published. > > Sorry I couldn't find anything further. I wish you GOOD LUCK on this > research. > > > [email protected] wrote: > My request for census lookup 1930 > > Christopher Gallagher > Born in Illinois Jo Daviess County 1858 > married ? > Died ? > Children ? > Ida Grove Iowa ...info from his brother's obit in 1939 > Possibly living with McNamara family...first name unknown. His sister > Elizabeth was married to P.L. "Leo" McNamara...Christopher was not with > them in the > census. > > What I have ...census for 1860 , 1870 , 1880 when he lived at home with > his > parents in Jo Daviess County IL. Can't find after that. > > Thanks so much for your kind offer ! Merry Christmas to you and your > family > :) > > Leueen Gilley in Colorado > > > ==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== > Chain letters, 'virus warnings' and the like should not be posted to the > list. Send them to the list admin first for verification of validity: Mari > at [email protected] > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > ========================== > Mary Thiele Fobian > Genealogical & Historical Research > Pacific Grove, California > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== > If you have any questions or concerns, please e-mail me > Mari, WIGRANT List Admin at [email protected] > *--*--*--*--*--*--*Happy Hunting!!*--*--*--*--*--*--* > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

I'm coming up empty, despite first name only searches, soundex searches, wild card searches. I imagine you already have Patrick's and Bridget's obituaries. Do you have their probate and will information? These documents might give some indication as to Christopher's whereabouts at the time of his parents' deaths. Since Patrick was a farmer, there may be some county land transfer documents following his death; there may be some clue in those resources, as well. Another possibility for clues about where Christopher might have been after 1880: county histories (very popular at the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th century). If Patrick's family was described in one of these, the narrative might indicate the whereabouts of the grown children at the time the history was published. Sorry I couldn't find anything further. I wish you GOOD LUCK on this research. [email protected] wrote: My request for census lookup 1930 Christopher Gallagher Born in Illinois Jo Daviess County 1858 married ? Died ? Children ? Ida Grove Iowa ...info from his brother's obit in 1939 Possibly living with McNamara family...first name unknown. His sister Elizabeth was married to P.L. "Leo" McNamara...Christopher was not with them in the census. What I have ...census for 1860 , 1870 , 1880 when he lived at home with his parents in Jo Daviess County IL. Can't find after that. Thanks so much for your kind offer ! Merry Christmas to you and your family :) Leueen Gilley in Colorado ==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== Chain letters, 'virus warnings' and the like should not be posted to the list. Send them to the list admin first for verification of validity: Mari at [email protected] ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx ========================== Mary Thiele Fobian Genealogical & Historical Research Pacific Grove, California

Grant County (Town of Hazel Green) St Josephs - Sinsinawa Cemetery Tombstone Photos http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/grant-hazelgreen-stjosephs-sinsinawa.html Grant County (Muscoda Township) Pleasant Valley Amish Mennonite Cemetery Tombstone Photos http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/grant-muscodatwp-pleasantvalleyamishmennonite.html Grant County (Ellenboro Township) Buckwheat Ridge Cemetery Tombstone Photos http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/grant-ellenborotwp-buckwheatridge.html Grant County (Little Grant Township) Priedock - Edwards Cemetery Tombstone Photos http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/grant-littlegranttwp-priedock-edwards.html An index to Tombstone Photograph Pages is located at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/

Hi Robin' can you incorporate photos of my Dvorak relatives with the gravestones i sent you photos of? That way, people could see who is buried beneath the gravestones. Would make a nice addition to the page I think! :) Merry Christmas! Robin Hoff Kaspar wrote: >John, you sent them to me and I posted them. > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigrant/muscoda_cemetery.html > >But I posted them to Muscoda Public cemetery. Did I put them in the wrong >place? > >Robin > >-----Original Message----- >From: john dvorak [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 7:21 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [WIGRANT] Grant County online cemetery records > > >Ok I sent a few photos of DVORAKS from the St John the >Baptist Catholic cemetery in Muscoda, I was wondering >if I sent them to the wrong person or not. Someone >was posting cemetery photos to the web and I might >have forgotten which member it was. Can someone >please remind me? Thank you >John > > >--- Mari <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>At 06:28 PM 11/26/2005,Ellen McFall wrote: >> >> >>>Hi, All. I live in Grant County and I'd be glad to >>>help photograph grave markers. I do a lot of >>> >>> >>research >> >> >>>online and I know I'm always very appreciate when I >>>find cemetery info online. >>>Ellen McFall [email protected] >>> >>> >>Hey! There ya go, Robin! I have family living in >>Grant/Crawford >>County. Am in IA, but do get back. Can the three >>of us get the >>whole hillside done? <g> >> >>Mari List admin >> >> >> >>==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >> Chain letters, 'virus warnings' and the >>like should not be posted to the list. Send them to >>the list admin first for verification of validity: >>Mari at [email protected] >> >>============================== >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about >>your family and the >>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the >>last 12 months. >>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> > > >==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== > Support free volunteer genealogy. > Contribute your data and your time. For details see: > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > RootsWeb supports our research by hosting our mailing list! > Do you support RootsWeb? > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > >==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== > Neither HTML nor RTF is acceptable for mailing lists. It causes problems for Rootsweb servers and for certain email programs. Please turn these functions off. > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > >

ok he wasnt a minister. he was in wisconsin state reformatory in the year 1900. I dont know how long he was in there, but he was only 19 at the time.......I assume he probably was estranged from his family all the years from 1900-1930. as he died an alcoholic in Janesville in Nov 1930 john.dvorak wrote: > Could have? BUt I've never seen any references where they called him > that.......but i wouldnt rule it out > > > Mary Thiele Fobian wrote: > >> Could he have gone by Wenceslas? In Rochester MN in 1918? Minister? >> >> >> "john.dvorak" <[email protected]> wrote: >> Mary, do you think that my great uncle VANDY also would have filled >> out an application for the draft? He was 3 years younger than frank, >> h aving been born in 1881 >> He was variously known as Vandy, or Wencil or Vaclav depending on the >> source >> >> >> Mary Thiele Fobian wrote: >> >> >> >>> Sorry, Kathy, but I don't have access to marriage records beyond the >>> WI indexes online, which aren't necessarily complete. Have you >>> contacted the Grant County courthouse? >>> >>> >>> Kathy DeFonso wrote: >>> Seek marriage record: >>> >>> SAMUEL PROSS >>> 1815 b. Wurttemberg, Germany >>> 1836 immigrated to New York USA >>> 1848 to Grant County >>> 1850 Grant County census Eastern Dist. 25 lists SAMUEL "BROSS" and >>> wife ANNA states "married within the year" >>> >>> Thanks for any help you can give, Mary and Happy Holidays to you! >>> Kathy >>> >>> >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>> >>> ==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >>> Problems with Unsubscribing? Did you remember to add >>> " -request" before the @ symbol? (be sure to include the minus sign) >>> Contact list admin Mari at [email protected] >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ========================== >>> Mary Thiele Fobian >>> Genealogical & Historical Research >>> Pacific Grove, California >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >>> If you have any questions or concerns, please e-mail me >>> Mari, WIGRANT List Admin at [email protected] >>> *--*--*--*--*--*--*Happy Hunting!!*--*--*--*--*--*--* >>> >>> ============================== >>> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >>> New content added every business day. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >> Chain letters, 'virus warnings' and the like should not be posted to >> the list. Send them to the list admin first for verification of >> validity: Mari at [email protected] >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >> >> ========================== >> Mary Thiele Fobian >> Genealogical & Historical Research >> Pacific Grove, California >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >> Send NO attachments of any kind to the list. If your >> email program automatically generates attachments for coding, please >> be sure it is turned off. If you have a document or other file of >> interest, please send it to individual addresses rather than to the >> list. The guidline also includes the "vcards" attachments. >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> >> >> >> >> > > > ==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== > Problems with Unsubscribing? Did you remember to add > " -request" before the @ symbol? (be sure to include the minus sign) > Contact list admin Mari at [email protected] > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Could have? BUt I've never seen any references where they called him that.......but i wouldnt rule it out Mary Thiele Fobian wrote: >Could he have gone by Wenceslas? In Rochester MN in 1918? Minister? > > > >"john.dvorak" <[email protected]> wrote: > Mary, do you think that my great uncle VANDY also would have filled out >an application for the draft? He was 3 years younger than frank, h >aving been born in 1881 >He was variously known as Vandy, or Wencil or Vaclav depending on the source > > >Mary Thiele Fobian wrote: > > > >>Sorry, Kathy, but I don't have access to marriage records beyond the WI indexes online, which aren't necessarily complete. Have you contacted the Grant County courthouse? >> >> >>Kathy DeFonso wrote: >>Seek marriage record: >> >>SAMUEL PROSS >>1815 b. Wurttemberg, Germany >>1836 immigrated to New York USA >>1848 to Grant County >>1850 Grant County census Eastern Dist. 25 lists SAMUEL "BROSS" and wife ANNA states "married within the year" >> >>Thanks for any help you can give, Mary and Happy Holidays to you! >>Kathy >> >> >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >>==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >>Problems with Unsubscribing? Did you remember to add >>" -request" before the @ symbol? (be sure to include the minus sign) >>Contact list admin Mari at [email protected] >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >> >>========================== >>Mary Thiele Fobian >>Genealogical & Historical Research >>Pacific Grove, California >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >>If you have any questions or concerns, please e-mail me >>Mari, WIGRANT List Admin at [email protected] >>*--*--*--*--*--*--*Happy Hunting!!*--*--*--*--*--*--* >> >>============================== >>Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >>New content added every business day. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >Chain letters, 'virus warnings' and the like should not be posted to the list. Send them to the list admin first for verification of validity: Mari at [email protected] > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > >========================== >Mary Thiele Fobian >Genealogical & Historical Research >Pacific Grove, California > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== > Send NO attachments of any kind to the list. If your email program automatically generates attachments for coding, please be sure it is turned off. If you have a document or other file of interest, please send it to individual addresses rather than to the list. The guidline also includes the "vcards" attachments. > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > >

Mary, do you think that my great uncle VANDY also would have filled out an application for the draft? He was 3 years younger than frank, h aving been born in 1881 He was variously known as Vandy, or Wencil or Vaclav depending on the source Mary Thiele Fobian wrote: >Sorry, Kathy, but I don't have access to marriage records beyond the WI indexes online, which aren't necessarily complete. Have you contacted the Grant County courthouse? > > >Kathy DeFonso <[email protected]> wrote: > Seek marriage record: > >SAMUEL PROSS >1815 b. Wurttemberg, Germany >1836 immigrated to New York USA >1848 to Grant County >1850 Grant County census Eastern Dist. 25 lists SAMUEL "BROSS" and wife ANNA states "married within the year" > >Thanks for any help you can give, Mary and Happy Holidays to you! >Kathy > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >Problems with Unsubscribing? Did you remember to add >" -request" before the @ symbol? (be sure to include the minus sign) >Contact list admin Mari at [email protected] > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > >========================== >Mary Thiele Fobian >Genealogical & Historical Research >Pacific Grove, California > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== > If you have any questions or concerns, please e-mail me > Mari, WIGRANT List Admin at [email protected] > *--*--*--*--*--*--*Happy Hunting!!*--*--*--*--*--*--* > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > >

Could he have gone by Wenceslas? In Rochester MN in 1918? Minister? "john.dvorak" <[email protected]> wrote: Mary, do you think that my great uncle VANDY also would have filled out an application for the draft? He was 3 years younger than frank, h aving been born in 1881 He was variously known as Vandy, or Wencil or Vaclav depending on the source Mary Thiele Fobian wrote: >Sorry, Kathy, but I don't have access to marriage records beyond the WI indexes online, which aren't necessarily complete. Have you contacted the Grant County courthouse? > > >Kathy DeFonso wrote: > Seek marriage record: > >SAMUEL PROSS >1815 b. Wurttemberg, Germany >1836 immigrated to New York USA >1848 to Grant County >1850 Grant County census Eastern Dist. 25 lists SAMUEL "BROSS" and wife ANNA states "married within the year" > >Thanks for any help you can give, Mary and Happy Holidays to you! >Kathy > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >Problems with Unsubscribing? Did you remember to add >" -request" before the @ symbol? (be sure to include the minus sign) >Contact list admin Mari at [email protected] > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > >========================== >Mary Thiele Fobian >Genealogical & Historical Research >Pacific Grove, California > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== > If you have any questions or concerns, please e-mail me > Mari, WIGRANT List Admin at [email protected] > *--*--*--*--*--*--*Happy Hunting!!*--*--*--*--*--*--* > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > ==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== Chain letters, 'virus warnings' and the like should not be posted to the list. Send them to the list admin first for verification of validity: Mari at [email protected] ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ========================== Mary Thiele Fobian Genealogical & Historical Research Pacific Grove, California

Sorry, Kathy, but I don't have access to marriage records beyond the WI indexes online, which aren't necessarily complete. Have you contacted the Grant County courthouse? Kathy DeFonso <[email protected]> wrote: Seek marriage record: SAMUEL PROSS 1815 b. Wurttemberg, Germany 1836 immigrated to New York USA 1848 to Grant County 1850 Grant County census Eastern Dist. 25 lists SAMUEL "BROSS" and wife ANNA states "married within the year" Thanks for any help you can give, Mary and Happy Holidays to you! Kathy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== Problems with Unsubscribing? Did you remember to add " -request" before the @ symbol? (be sure to include the minus sign) Contact list admin Mari at [email protected] ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ========================== Mary Thiele Fobian Genealogical & Historical Research Pacific Grove, California

Seek marriage record: SAMUEL PROSS 1815 b. Wurttemberg, Germany 1836 immigrated to New York USA 1848 to Grant County 1850 Grant County census Eastern Dist. 25 lists SAMUEL "BROSS" and wife ANNA states "married within the year" Thanks for any help you can give, Mary and Happy Holidays to you! Kathy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Here Here!! Merry Chritstmas and Happy New Year!!!! Regards, Sandy -------------- Original message -------------- From: "john.dvorak" <[email protected]> > List I would like to commend this entire list for their tireless efforts > on behalf of the list in order to help the list delve into the members' > genealogical past. God bless the list! > Three cheers! > > > Mary Thiele Fobian wrote: > > >FYI to the list, the draft card has been found and transmitted to John. We > still don't know exactly where Frank was born, but it's nice to have the draft > card and see Frank's signature. > > > > > >[email protected] wrote: > > In a message dated 12/21/2005 11:27:44 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, > >[email protected] writes: > >Let's see........I don't recall that he was in the war,.............or > >at least nobody has told me so. >> > > > >Just because he wasn't in the war, it doesn't mean he wasn't required to > >have a draft card filled out. My grandfather, who was 17, filled out a draft > >card. His older brother, when the draft started, filled out a card, too. > >However, he also enlisted into the army. > > > >Draft cards have some interesting info like full names (sometimes), > >occupation, residence, prior military experience, claimed disability, etc. > > > >Regards, > >Diane Wolford > >(researching Schenk/Schenck and Prawn, mid-late 1800s, Grant County) > > > > > > > >==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== > >If you have any questions or concerns, please e-mail me > >Mari, WIGRANT List Admin at [email protected] > >*--*--*--*--*--*--*Happy Hunting!!*--*--*--*--*--*--* > > > >============================== > >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > >========================== > >Mary Thiele Fobian > >Genealogical & Historical Research > >Pacific Grove, California > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== > > Please remember to respect the copyright laws. If you wish > >to quote something that is copyrighted, quote just a few words or lines, giving > credit to the author of the publication. > > > >============================== > >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== > Support free volunteer genealogy. > Contribute your data and your time. For details see: > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > RootsWeb supports our research by hosting our mailing list! > Do you support RootsWeb? > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

oops i had it on czech keyboard !!!!!!!!!!! [email protected] wrote: >Here Here!! Merry Chritstmas and Happy New Year!!!! > >Regards, >Sandy > >-------------- Original message -------------- >From: "john.dvorak" <[email protected]> > > > >>List I would like to commend this entire list for their tireless efforts >>on behalf of the list in order to help the list delve into the members' >>genealogical past. God bless the list! >>Three cheers! >> >> >>Mary Thiele Fobian wrote: >> >> >> >>>FYI to the list, the draft card has been found and transmitted to John. We >>> >>> >>still don't know exactly where Frank was born, but it's nice to have the draft >>card and see Frank's signature. >> >> >>>[email protected] wrote: >>>In a message dated 12/21/2005 11:27:44 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, >>>[email protected] writes: >>>Let's see........I don't recall that he was in the war,.............or >>>at least nobody has told me so. >> >>> >>>Just because he wasn't in the war, it doesn't mean he wasn't required to >>>have a draft card filled out. My grandfather, who was 17, filled out a draft >>>card. His older brother, when the draft started, filled out a card, too. >>>However, he also enlisted into the army. >>> >>>Draft cards have some interesting info like full names (sometimes), >>>occupation, residence, prior military experience, claimed disability, etc. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Diane Wolford >>>(researching Schenk/Schenck and Prawn, mid-late 1800s, Grant County) >>> >>> >>> >>>==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >>>If you have any questions or concerns, please e-mail me >>>Mari, WIGRANT List Admin at [email protected] >>>*--*--*--*--*--*--*Happy Hunting!!*--*--*--*--*--*--* >>> >>>============================== >>>Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >>>Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >>> >>> >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>========================== >>>Mary Thiele Fobian >>>Genealogical & Historical Research >>>Pacific Grove, California >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >>>Please remember to respect the copyright laws. If you wish >>>to quote something that is copyrighted, quote just a few words or lines, giving >>> >>> >>credit to the author of the publication. >> >> >>>============================== >>>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> >>> >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >>Support free volunteer genealogy. >>Contribute your data and your time. For details see: >>http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >>RootsWeb supports our research by hosting our mailing list! >>Do you support RootsWeb? >> >>============================== >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > >==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== > Please remember to respect the copyright laws. If you wish >to quote something that is copyrighted, quote just a few words or lines, giving credit to the author of the publication. > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > >

THank you1 same to you1 oops my shift key wont work neither one of them will cry cry [email protected] wrote: >Here Here!! Merry Chritstmas and Happy New Year!!!! > >Regards, >Sandy > >-------------- Original message -------------- >From: "john.dvorak" <[email protected]> > > > >>List I would like to commend this entire list for their tireless efforts >>on behalf of the list in order to help the list delve into the members' >>genealogical past. God bless the list! >>Three cheers! >> >> >>Mary Thiele Fobian wrote: >> >> >> >>>FYI to the list, the draft card has been found and transmitted to John. We >>> >>> >>still don't know exactly where Frank was born, but it's nice to have the draft >>card and see Frank's signature. >> >> >>>[email protected] wrote: >>>In a message dated 12/21/2005 11:27:44 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, >>>[email protected] writes: >>>Let's see........I don't recall that he was in the war,.............or >>>at least nobody has told me so. >> >>> >>>Just because he wasn't in the war, it doesn't mean he wasn't required to >>>have a draft card filled out. My grandfather, who was 17, filled out a draft >>>card. His older brother, when the draft started, filled out a card, too. >>>However, he also enlisted into the army. >>> >>>Draft cards have some interesting info like full names (sometimes), >>>occupation, residence, prior military experience, claimed disability, etc. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Diane Wolford >>>(researching Schenk/Schenck and Prawn, mid-late 1800s, Grant County) >>> >>> >>> >>>==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >>>If you have any questions or concerns, please e-mail me >>>Mari, WIGRANT List Admin at [email protected] >>>*--*--*--*--*--*--*Happy Hunting!!*--*--*--*--*--*--* >>> >>>============================== >>>Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >>>Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >>> >>> >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>========================== >>>Mary Thiele Fobian >>>Genealogical & Historical Research >>>Pacific Grove, California >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >>>Please remember to respect the copyright laws. If you wish >>>to quote something that is copyrighted, quote just a few words or lines, giving >>> >>> >>credit to the author of the publication. >> >> >>>============================== >>>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> >>> >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >>Support free volunteer genealogy. >>Contribute your data and your time. For details see: >>http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >>RootsWeb supports our research by hosting our mailing list! >>Do you support RootsWeb? >> >>============================== >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > >==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== > Please remember to respect the copyright laws. If you wish >to quote something that is copyrighted, quote just a few words or lines, giving credit to the author of the publication. > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > >

List I would like to commend this entire list for their tireless efforts on behalf of the list in order to help the list delve into the members' genealogical past. God bless the list! Three cheers! Mary Thiele Fobian wrote: >FYI to the list, the draft card has been found and transmitted to John. We still don't know exactly where Frank was born, but it's nice to have the draft card and see Frank's signature. > > >[email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 12/21/2005 11:27:44 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: >Let's see........I don't recall that he was in the war,.............or >at least nobody has told me so. >> > >Just because he wasn't in the war, it doesn't mean he wasn't required to >have a draft card filled out. My grandfather, who was 17, filled out a draft >card. His older brother, when the draft started, filled out a card, too. >However, he also enlisted into the army. > >Draft cards have some interesting info like full names (sometimes), >occupation, residence, prior military experience, claimed disability, etc. > >Regards, >Diane Wolford >(researching Schenk/Schenck and Prawn, mid-late 1800s, Grant County) > > > >==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >If you have any questions or concerns, please e-mail me >Mari, WIGRANT List Admin at [email protected] >*--*--*--*--*--*--*Happy Hunting!!*--*--*--*--*--*--* > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > >========================== >Mary Thiele Fobian >Genealogical & Historical Research >Pacific Grove, California > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== > Please remember to respect the copyright laws. If you wish >to quote something that is copyrighted, quote just a few words or lines, giving credit to the author of the publication. > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > >

His mom was Mary, correct Mary Thiele Fobian wrote: >John, many of the men who registered for the draft (which was required) didn't actually serve in the war. > > I found Frank Joe DVORAK's card; birth is given as Feb 2 and the year is either 1877, 1878 or 1879. Mother is Mary Dvorak--is that a match? > > Birthplace is listed as "Bohemia Austria," which doesn't help you in your search for the town of origin, but the document does have his signature on it, so I'm sending you the image by separate email. > > >"john.dvorak" <[email protected]> wrote: > Let's see........I don't recall that he was in the war,.............or >at least nobody has told me so. His mom was alone after 1927 and so >she had to have someone be with her since she was rather advanced in age >at that time (having died only 2 years later).I don't recall Frank being >in WWI, but if you can check just in case. .....his name was Frank Dvorak > > >Mary Thiele Fobian wrote: > > > >>John, send me his name. I just did a double-take on the birth date and realized that this fellow might be in the WWI draft cards. Occasionally they filled out the actual city of birth rather than just "Austria," etc. >> >>"john.dvorak" wrote: Thank ya :) Hey Mary, MERRY CHRISTMAS to you! I hope you have THE BEST >>EVER! Genealogically speaking and otherwise! >>John >> >> >>Mary Thiele Fobian wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>John, even if people were required to bring their birth certificates with them, the certificates would be their own property, and would not have been turned over to a government agency such as a county records office. >>> >>>"john.dvorak" wrote: If I had a great uncle (which I did) who was born in Bohemia/Austria in >>>1881, and one in 1878 (Feb 2).........is there a possibility that the >>>birth certificate for the second one would be located in Wisconsin? Or >>>Were people not required to bring their birth certificates with them >>>when they travelled to the United States years gone by? I'm still >>>attempting to figure out what city in Bohemia/Austria, that my great >>>uncle Frank was born in. Since I have his exact birth date, I figured >>>there would be a possibility of this happening some day. If people were >>>not bringing their birth certificates with them at this time, then i >>>guess I am grasping at straws. But I figured it was worth a shot. >>>THanks to anybody who might have an answer. >>>PS I did find earlier on this year, Vaclav (great grandpa's) >>>naturalization papers located in Richland County (if I remember >>>correctly), and not in Muscoda where he lived with his family, so maybe >>>the records would be kept there, since the county courthouse, from >>>Muscoda's perspective, was so far away in Lancaster and still >>>is...........soooooooooo. They may have had to register birth >>>certificates in another county? >>> >>>Ho Ho HO! Merry Christmas and happy holidays everybody! >>>John D in Michigan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >>>If you have any questions or concerns, please e-mail me >>>Mari, WIGRANT List Admin at [email protected] >>>*--*--*--*--*--*--*Happy Hunting!!*--*--*--*--*--*--* >>> >>>============================== >>>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>========================== >>>Mary Thiele Fobian >>>Genealogical & Historical Research >>>Pacific Grove, California >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== >>>If you have any questions or concerns, please e-mail me >>>Mari, WIGRANT List Admin at [email protected] >>>*--*--*--*--*--*--*Happy Hunting!!*--*--*--*--*--*--* >>> >>>============================== >>>New! 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ok that does it! HA HA. I'm looking for Frank on the draft reg cards! Anybody still able to look for that for me? I cant remember the URL anymore [email protected] wrote: >In a message dated 12/21/2005 11:27:44 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: >Let's see........I don't recall that he was in the war,.............or >at least nobody has told me so. >> > >Just because he wasn't in the war, it doesn't mean he wasn't required to >have a draft card filled out. My grandfather, who was 17, filled out a draft >card. His older brother, when the draft started, filled out a card, too. >However, he also enlisted into the army. > >Draft cards have some interesting info like full names (sometimes), >occupation, residence, prior military experience, claimed disability, etc. > >Regards, >Diane Wolford >(researching Schenk/Schenck and Prawn, mid-late 1800s, Grant County) > > > >==== WIGRANT Mailing List ==== > If you have any questions or concerns, please e-mail me > Mari, WIGRANT List Admin at [email protected] > *--*--*--*--*--*--*Happy Hunting!!*--*--*--*--*--*--* > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > >

In a message dated 12/21/2005 11:27:44 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Let's see........I don't recall that he was in the war,.............or at least nobody has told me so. >> Just because he wasn't in the war, it doesn't mean he wasn't required to have a draft card filled out. My grandfather, who was 17, filled out a draft card. His older brother, when the draft started, filled out a card, too. However, he also enlisted into the army. Draft cards have some interesting info like full names (sometimes), occupation, residence, prior military experience, claimed disability, etc. Regards, Diane Wolford (researching Schenk/Schenck and Prawn, mid-late 1800s, Grant County)