>Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 07:55:26 -0700 >X-From_: pajolova@excite.com Sun Sep 17 07:55:24 2000 >Old-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 07:55:21 -0700 (PDT) >From: Paula Vaughan <pajolova@excite.com> >To: WIGEN-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailer: Excite Inbox >X-Sender-Ip: 64.77.130.14 >X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list >Subject: {not a subscriber} FamilyDiscovery Site Information >X-Envelope-To: WIGEN-L > >Hi all- > >Got this on another mail list and thought I would past it along to Wisconsin >as we had been discussing this site. > >Paula >WaupacaCC > > >----- Original Message ----- >> From: QTPIE97173@aol.com >> Message-ID: <70.3165af6.26f62fa1@aol.com> >> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 10:30:57 EDT >> Subject: Fraud & Copyright Laws >> To: WIJUNEAU-L@rootsweb.com >> >> >> >> Hello Everyone, >> I need your help!!! I belong to a list for Hamilton County, Illinois. >We >> are having a major problem. Two men in Iowa are stealing FREE >information >> from a wonderful lady that belongs to the list. They are copying and >pasting >> her information onto their site then CHARGING $45-50 to us to see the >> information. If you would would you read the letter below and do what >your >> heart tells you to do. Please don't let this past you, it only takes a >> couple of minutes to write a letter and send it to the Attorney General >in >> Iowa. One they are violating copyright laws and two they are committing >> fraud! >> Please help this also involves you, because these two people might be >> stealing your information and putting it on their site! >> Thank you for your time >> >> Michelle James >> Researching::Perry County Indiana......James, Goffinet, Sprinkle and many > >> other branches of the tree that seem to never end. >> Researching::York, Austin, James from WI >> >> >> >> Hi Gang, >> >> Well, here we go again. He is back, now with his own >> domain: http://www.FamilyDiscovery.com >> >> I received a message from a lady who is trying to stop this fraud. >Please >> visit her site and then click on the "attorney general" link which will >> allow you to send a complaint to the Iowa Attorney General. Maybe if >> enough of us complain, they will do something. >> >> Your message need not be long. Just state that the web site Family >> Discovery is committing fraud and are violating copy right laws and that > >> you support free genealogy on the web. Please give your name and >address. >> >> http://hometown.aol.com/vikkigray/saguachecensus1.htm >> >> Again, right now you go through the backdoor and view his Alabama >> site. You will see that he has "copy and pasted" info. directly from my > >> Standerfer site and posted the info. on his site. I have changed the >URL's >> for the links so that they no longer work. This is only a temporary >> measure and I can't keep changing them for the Standerfer or the >Hamilton >> County site. If he is not stopped, he will no doubt collect a large >> database of Genweb info. and personal homepage info. >> >> http://128.121.230.66/Records/states/alabama.htm >> >> There is a telephone number for Mr. Abodeely that is listed and I tried >to >> call. It is a Carpet company who has never heard of Mr. Abodeely or Mr. > >> Cook. >> >> Please take the time from your busy day to do this. >> >> Carol Lee Yarbrough >> >> >> >> >> >> --part1_70.3165af6.26f62fa1_boundary >> Content-Type: message/rfc822 >> Content-Disposition: inline >> >> Return-Path: <ILHAMILT-D-request@rootsweb.com> >> Received: from rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (rly-yd01.mail.aol.com >[172.18.150.1]) by air-yd01.mail.aol.com (v75_b4.3) with ESMTP; Sun, 17 Sep >2000 07:02:01 -0400 >> Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) >by rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 07:01:42 >-0400 >> Received: (from slist@localhost) >> by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e8HB0Vk21715; >> Sun, 17 Sep 2000 04:00:31 -0700 >> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 04:00:31 -0700 >> Message-Id: <200009171100.e8HB0Vk21715@lists5.rootsweb.com> >> From: ILHAMILT-D-request@rootsweb.com >> Subject: ILHAMILT-D Digest V00 #244 >> X-Loop: ILHAMILT-D@rootsweb.com >> X-Mailing-List: <ILHAMILT-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/244 >> Precedence: list >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" >> To: ILHAMILT-D@rootsweb.com >> Reply-To: ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com >> X-Mailer: Unknown >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Content-Type: text/plain >> To: undisclosed-recipients:; >> >> ILHAMILT-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 244 >> >> Today's Topics: >> #1 [ILHAMILT-L] HE'S BA-A-A-C-K! [Carol Lee Yarbrough ><cyarbrou@CSWN] >> #2 Re: [ILHAMILT-L] HE'S BA-A-A-C-K! ["Misty Flannigan" ><misty@midwest.n] >> #3 Re: [ILHAMILT-L] HE'S BA-A-A-C-K! [Jackie & Zane Smith ><jaws64@comlin] >> #4 RE: [ILHAMILT-L] HE'S BA-A-A-C-K! ["Carolyn White" ><intrees@pacifier.] >> #5 Re: [ILHAMILT-L] Index [Cindy Birk Conley ><cbconly@midwest] >> #6 [ILHAMILT-L] HE'S BA-A-A-C-K! [Carol Lee Yarbrough ><cyarbrou@CSWN] >> #7 Re: [ILHAMILT-L] HE'S BA-A-A-C-K! [gideong@ix.netcom.com] >> #8 Re: [ILHAMILT-L] McMahon [Djshawn636@aol.com] >> #9 [ILHAMILT-L] Re: Criminal Historie [Mike and Elynn Boss ><mboss@ix.netc] >> #10 [ILHAMILT-L] Re: ILHAMILT-D Digest ["G_F_Johnson" ><G_F_Johnson@email.m] >> >> Administrivia: >> To unsubscribe from ILHAMILT-D, send a message to >> >> ILHAMILT-D-request@rootsweb.com >> >> that contains in the body of the message the command >> >> unsubscribe >> >> and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >> requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. >> >> ______________________________ >> ------------------------------ >> >> X-Message: #1 >> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 11:08:28 -0500 >> From: Carol Lee Yarbrough <cyarbrou@CSWNET.COM> >> To: ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com >> Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000916104203.00e3b100@mail.CSWNET.COM> >> Subject: [ILHAMILT-L] HE'S BA-A-A-C-K! >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >> >> Hi Gang, >> >> Well, here we go again. He is back, now with his own >> domain: http://www.FamilyDiscovery.com >> >> I received a message from a lady who is trying to stop this fraud. >Please >> visit her site and then click on the "attorney general" link which will >> allow you to send a complaint to the Iowa Attorney General. Maybe if >> enough of us complain, they will do something. >> >> Your message need not be long. Just state that the web site Family >> Discovery is committing fraud and are violating copy right laws and that >> you support free genealogy on the web. Please give your name and >address. >> >> http://hometown.aol.com/vikkigray/saguachecensus1.htm >> >> Again, right now you go through the backdoor and view his Alabama >> site. You will see that he has "copy and pasted" info. directly from my >> Standerfer site and posted the info. on his site. I have changed the >URL's >> for the links so that they no longer work. This is only a temporary >> measure and I can't keep changing them for the Standerfer or the Hamilton > >> County site. If he is not stopped, he will no doubt collect a large >> database of Genweb info. and personal homepage info. >> >> http://128.121.230.66/Records/states/alabama.htm >> >> There is a telephone number for Mr. Abodeely that is listed and I tried >to >> call. It is a Carpet company who has never heard of Mr. Abodeely or Mr. >Cook. >> >> Please take the time from your busy day to do this. >> >> Carol Lee Yarbrough >> >> ______________________________ >> ------------------------------ >> >> X-Message: #2 >> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 12:05:15 -0500 >> From: "Misty Flannigan" <misty@midwest.net> >> To: ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <005501c02000$59b07800$321cebd0@misty.midwest.net> >> Subject: Re: [ILHAMILT-L] HE'S BA-A-A-C-K! >> Content-Type: text/plain; >> charset="iso-8859-1" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> Carol, >> I checked this morning to see if he had any of my info and I didn't find >> any, but I did just now find some of your marriages on his KY page. What >a >> rat. We should probably check his entire site out! >> >> Thanks, >> -Misty- >> >> mailto:misty@midwest.net >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljeffer/ >> ILGenWeb Jefferson Co Coordinator >> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ladd/ >> LADD Family Researching >> LADD DIGGING GROUND >> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/2967 >> Flannigan Family Resources >> Hamilton Co., Il Genealogy Resource Page >> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/5807 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carol Lee Yarbrough <cyarbrou@CSWNET.COM> >> To: ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com <ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Saturday, September 16, 2000 11:15 AM >> Subject: [ILHAMILT-L] HE'S BA-A-A-C-K! >> >>  >> >Hi Gang, >> > >> >Well, here we go again. He is back, now with his own >> >domain: http://www.FamilyDiscovery.com >> > >> >I received a message from a lady who is trying to stop this fraud. >Please >> >visit her site and then click on the "attorney general" link which will >> >allow you to send a complaint to the Iowa Attorney General. Maybe if >> >enough of us complain, they will do something. >> > >> >Your message need not be long. Just state that the web site Family >> >Discovery is committing fraud and are violating copy right laws and that >> >you support free genealogy on the web. Please give your name and >address. >> > >> >http://hometown.aol.com/vikkigray/saguachecensus1.htm >> > >> >Again, right now you go through the backdoor and view his Alabama >> >site. You will see that he has "copy and pasted" info. directly from my >> >Standerfer site and posted the info. on his site. I have changed the >URL's >> >for the links so that they no longer work. This is only a temporary >> >measure and I can't keep changing them for the Standerfer or the >Hamilton >> >County site. If he is not stopped, he will no doubt collect a large >> >database of Genweb info. and personal homepage info. >> > >> >http://128.121.230.66/Records/states/alabama.htm >> > >> >There is a telephone number for Mr. Abodeely that is listed and I tried >to >> >call. It is a Carpet company who has never heard of Mr. Abodeely or Mr. >> Cook. >> > >> >Please take the time from your busy day to do this. >> > >> >Carol Lee Yarbrough >> > >> > >> >==== ILHAMILT Mailing List ==== >> >Listowner, Michael L. Hebert mailto:mhebert.usgw@worldnet.att.net >> >----------------------------------------------------------------- >> >Search the ILHAMILT-L archives >> >------------------------------ >> >Interactive search: >> >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ILHAMILT-L >> >Threaded archives: >> >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ILHAMILT-L/ >> > >> > >> >> ______________________________ >> ------------------------------ >> >> X-Message: #3 >> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 12:22:49 -0500 >> From: Jackie & Zane Smith <jaws64@comlinkusa.net> >> To: ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com >> Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000916121821.00aa7df0@mail.comlinkusa.net> >> Subject: Re: [ILHAMILT-L] HE'S BA-A-A-C-K! >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >> >> Question: >> Is it really fraud when the disclaimer states the page only contains >> "EXTERNAL links which are not owned or operated by Family Discovery. >This >> is merely a search engine that takes you directly to the information >> skipping all the time consuming steps"? >> >> Don't get me wrong, I positively abhor what this site is >> doing. Personally, I'd like to string up the people responsible for >these >> type of sites. But will the Iowa Attorney General be able to do >anything? >> >> Jackie Wilson Smith >> >> ______________________________ >> ------------------------------ >> >> X-Message: #4 >> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 10:28:58 -0700 >> From: "Carolyn White" <intrees@pacifier.com> >> To: ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <000601c02003$98f72ba0$1ce691c6@thewhites> >> Subject: RE: [ILHAMILT-L] HE'S BA-A-A-C-K! >> Content-Type: text/plain; >> charset="iso-8859-1" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> Carol , >> >> My complaint has been filed. I had noticed a day or so ago that he >"WAS >> BACK " but saw no further mention of it so I did not say anything. From >now >> on I will. Maybe this will help take care of him for good. It would be a >> shame and a great loss for many of us to no longer be able to recieve the >> wonderful information both you and Misty provide . >> >> Keep up the good work, and Thank You, >> >> Carolyn Campbell White >> >>  >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Carol Lee Yarbrough [mailto:cyarbrou@CSWNET.COM] >> > Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 9:08 AM >> > To: ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: [ILHAMILT-L] HE'S BA-A-A-C-K! >> > >> > >> > Hi Gang, >> > >> > Well, here we go again. He is back, now with his own >> > domain: http://www.FamilyDiscovery.com >> > >> > I received a message from a lady who is trying to stop this >> > fraud. Please >> > visit her site and then click on the "attorney general" link which will >> > allow you to send a complaint to the Iowa Attorney General. Maybe if >> > enough of us complain, they will do something. >> > >> > Your message need not be long. Just state that the web site Family >> > Discovery is committing fraud and are violating copy right laws and >that >> > you support free genealogy on the web. Please give your name and >address. >> > >> > http://hometown.aol.com/vikkigray/saguachecensus1.htm >> > >> > Again, right now you go through the backdoor and view his Alabama >> > site. You will see that he has "copy and pasted" info. directly from >my >> > Standerfer site and posted the info. on his site. I have changed >> > the URL's >> > for the links so that they no longer work. This is only a temporary >> > measure and I can't keep changing them for the Standerfer or the >Hamilton >> > County site. If he is not stopped, he will no doubt collect a large >> > database of Genweb info. and personal homepage info. >> > >> > http://128.121.230.66/Records/states/alabama.htm >> > >> > There is a telephone number for Mr. Abodeely that is listed and I >> > tried to >> > call. It is a Carpet company who has never heard of Mr. Abodeely >> > or Mr. Cook. >> > >> > Please take the time from your busy day to do this. >> > >> > Carol Lee Yarbrough >> > >> > >> > ==== ILHAMILT Mailing List ==== >> > Listowner, Michael L. Hebert mailto:mhebert.usgw@worldnet.att.net >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> > Search the ILHAMILT-L archives >> > ------------------------------ >> > Interactive search: >> > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ILHAMILT-L >> > Threaded archives: >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ILHAMILT-L/ >> > >> > >> >> ______________________________ >> ------------------------------ >> >> X-Message: #5 >> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 12:50:30 -0500 >> From: Cindy Birk Conley <cbconly@midwest.net> >> To: ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <39C3B2E6.1C9CBBCA@midwest.net> >> Subject: Re: [ILHAMILT-L] Index >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> Hi all, >> >> The White County Historical Society has a few of Pat's books for sale >> but she sells most from her website at >> http://scribers.midwest.net/patdavis. >> >> She ran out a while back when her copier broke down and she tried >> getting parts, but she purchased a new machine and is back in business. >> >> I think she is going to be at the GSSI meeting 10/14/2000. >> >> Cindy >> >> ______________________________ >> ------------------------------ >> >> X-Message: #6 >> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 12:53:32 -0500 >> From: Carol Lee Yarbrough <cyarbrou@CSWNET.COM> >> To: ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com >> Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000916124758.00e38ee0@mail.CSWNET.COM> >> Subject: [ILHAMILT-L] HE'S BA-A-A-C-K! >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >> >> Hi Jackie, >> The disclaimer only appears on a few pages and not on the title page >where >> he states that this site contains genealogical databases....of course he >> has: OURS. >> >> I don't know if the IA Attorney Gen. will do anything or not. But maybe >it >> is worth a try. I don't know what else to do. >> >> Carol >> >> ______________________________ >> ------------------------------ >> >> X-Message: #7 >> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 12:46:10 -0600 >> From: gideong@ix.netcom.com >> To: ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <39C3BFF1.A49B6375@ix.netcom.com> >> Subject: Re: [ILHAMILT-L] HE'S BA-A-A-C-K! >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> No that would be ok.. I think.. but you have to get to the parent >directory of >> his site.. where he wants to charge you for what you can get for free >with a >> little bit of searching.. or a whole lot of searching sometimes. <g> >But why >> should someone make money from others hard work and many like me have a >web >> page that is full of what information I have and will gladly s >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________________ >Say Bye to Slow Internet! >http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html > >

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