OK Debie, If we are going to ask everyone to set limits, let's ask Jan to also do that. As I said, it has been a very long time since I have said anything except to encourage, inform and support others on this list. Check the list archives id you doubt my word. I am tied of being told to shut up. I think Jan needs to stop crying for other to "protect" her. Rita Debie & Joe wrote: > I guess I must have missed some e-mails and now I can also say I > guess I was wrong when I made the statement that we have stopped > attacking each other. I should have and will only speak for myself > from now on. I have stopped attacking people and will not do it again. > > I wish we could try very hard to be nice, if you don't get > along with someone, hey, that's alright. We don't always like > everyone we are around. However, I really wish that the nastiness > would be kept to one self. I think that Jan simply misunderstood what > Mari was saying, perhaps she did misread the letter and then felt > bad. I am not sure, I am not Jan and don't want to assume anything on > her part. However, the nastiness that showed up in my e-mail both now > and earlier today, I believe was way to strong. > > Rita, if you don't like Jan, that's alright, I am not trying to say > you have too. However, I wish you would at least be civil to the > list. If you need to say something to Jan, please send it privately > or just run around your house ranting about how she makes you feel, > whichever you would prefer to do. > > As for the e-mail addresses and spam, have you tried the > html for making the @ sign? Back some time ago, Ellen shared this > information with me. All you have to do is change the @ symbol to > > @ > > When placing your mouse over it, the it shows as the @ > symbol, but for the spam programs that harvest e-mails, it misses > these because it looks for the @ symbol and it isn't there. It is > real simple to use and real fast to change. I have been using it for > all of my webpages since Ellen told me about it. > > Just a thought, > > Debie Blindauer > > Calumet & Sheboygan Counties > > At 09:46 PM 1/27/2006, you wrote: > >And all this while I thought this was an important group project to help > >for now > >and the future! Oh, my mistake. Now you can get in the last word as > >always, I'm > >done. And for the past over a year I have kept my promise and not > >commented. > >Your turn, make it good, it will be your last shot at me. > >Rita > > > >Jan Cortex wrote: > > > > >You lost it years ago sweetie - your arrogance certainly doesn't become > >you. > > > > > > > > > > Boo hooo, I've lost the popularity contest! > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > Jan Cortez wrote: > > > > > > > >> Oh, I am so terribly sorry - we just can't all be as perfect as > >*you* > > > >> seem > > > >> to think you are. Why don't you grow up and quit sending your > > > >> nastygrams? > > > >"R.M.N." wrote: > > > > > Jan, > > > > > > Grow up. Stop trying to make everyone feel guilty and take sides over > >things > > > that are not happening. If you are having so much trouble with the > >attention > > > your are getting in so many ways, all the time, maybe you need to look > >at this > > > far more carefully to understand your own part in it. It can't always > >be > > > "everyone else". > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > Debie & Joe wrote: > > > > > > > Jan, > > > > > > > > I think you are taking this way to personally. I didn't get > > > > > > the impression that Mari was attacking you or telling you she didn't > > > > > > want to hear your ideas. She was bringing concerns about visually > > > > impaired people. Perhaps all it would have needed was to point out > > > > that it could be done either way. Mari did say she is sight > >impaired, > > > > perhaps she didn't see that it could be done two ways. > > > > > > > > Don't take this so much to heart, we have all stopped > > > > attacking each other, > > > > > > > > I hope you have a better day, > > > > > > > > Debie Blindauer > > > > > > > > Calumet & Sheboygan Counties > > > > > > > > At 12:59 PM 1/27/2006, you wrote: > > > > >My apologies Mari...... I guess I haven't realized yet that I > > > > >cannot say anything on WIGEN- without it being taken the wrong > > > > >way. God, I must be a horrid person...... > > > > > > > > > >I really think its time for me to reassess my priorities and maybe > > > > >completely removing myself from USGenWeb is the route to take. > >I'll > > > > >be thinking that over for a few weeks while I stay away from this > >computer. > > > > > > > > > >I have cried over this this morning until I am sick and I NEVER > >ever > > > > >want to have to repeat this again. > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > >Celebrate Wisconsin! > >Visit the Taylor County WIGenWeb Project Pages > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~witaylor/ > > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > Celebrate Wisconsin! > Visit the Vilas County WIGenWeb Project Pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wivilas/

Rita, You are way off base here. I never said shut-up, I asked for you to either run around your house ranting or to send it privately. I don't believe I was making an attack on anyone, nor was I being hurtful. I was politely asking to not send it to the state list. I can't and won't speak for everyone else on the list, but personally for me, this list has been truly 100% better since the nastiness stopped. Personally, I think Jan should have e-mailed Mari privately if she felt attacked. I still don't understand any of Jan's e-mails today at all. I have tried and tried to find a nastiness in Mari's e-mail to the list and in the end, all I found was a concern being brought to the list, something the list is for. I want to add one more thing, Jan may have looked for someone to protect her. I am not sure, but it didn't appear to me that anyone was running to protect her and by her private e-mails to you, it certainly didn't appear that she needed to be protected from anyone. You can check my last e-mail, I never said, nor did I intend to tell anyone to shut up, I was simply making a suggestion. I am not the person who can or can't tell you what to do, that would be either Tina or MAK. I would never be bold enough to step on their authority. I am done hashing this out, I am sorry if you misunderstood my letter, Debie Blindauer Calumet & Sheboygan Counties At 10:38 PM 1/27/2006, you wrote: >OK Debie, >If we are going to ask everyone to set limits, let's ask Jan to also do that. >As I said, it has been a very long time since I have said anything except to >encourage, inform and support others on this list. Check the list archives id >you doubt my word. I am tied of being told to shut up. I think Jan needs to >stop crying for other to "protect" her. >Rita > >Debie & Joe wrote: > > > I guess I must have missed some e-mails and now I can also say I > > guess I was wrong when I made the statement that we have stopped > > attacking each other. I should have and will only speak for myself > > from now on. I have stopped attacking people and will not do it again. > > > > I wish we could try very hard to be nice, if you don't get > > along with someone, hey, that's alright. We don't always like > > everyone we are around. However, I really wish that the nastiness > > would be kept to one self. I think that Jan simply misunderstood what > > Mari was saying, perhaps she did misread the letter and then felt > > bad. I am not sure, I am not Jan and don't want to assume anything on > > her part. However, the nastiness that showed up in my e-mail both now > > and earlier today, I believe was way to strong. > > > > Rita, if you don't like Jan, that's alright, I am not trying to say > > you have too. However, I wish you would at least be civil to the > > list. If you need to say something to Jan, please send it privately > > or just run around your house ranting about how she makes you feel, > > whichever you would prefer to do. > > > > As for the e-mail addresses and spam, have you tried the > > html for making the @ sign? Back some time ago, Ellen shared this > > information with me. All you have to do is change the @ symbol to > > > > @ > > > > When placing your mouse over it, the it shows as the @ > > symbol, but for the spam programs that harvest e-mails, it misses > > these because it looks for the @ symbol and it isn't there. It is > > real simple to use and real fast to change. I have been using it for > > all of my webpages since Ellen told me about it. > > > > Just a thought, > > > > Debie Blindauer > > > > Calumet & Sheboygan Counties > > > > At 09:46 PM 1/27/2006, you wrote: > > >And all this while I thought this was an important group project to help > > >for now > > >and the future! Oh, my mistake. Now you can get in the last word as > > >always, I'm > > >done. And for the past over a year I have kept my promise and not > > >commented. > > >Your turn, make it good, it will be your last shot at me. > > >Rita > > > > > >Jan Cortex wrote: > > > > > > >You lost it years ago sweetie - your arrogance certainly doesn't become > > >you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boo hooo, I've lost the popularity contest! > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jan Cortez wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Oh, I am so terribly sorry - we just can't all be as perfect as > > >*you* > > > > >> seem > > > > >> to think you are. Why don't you grow up and quit sending your > > > > >> nastygrams? > > > > > >"R.M.N." wrote: > > > > > > > Jan, > > > > > > > > Grow up. Stop trying to make everyone feel guilty and take sides over > > >things > > > > that are not happening. If you are having so much trouble with the > > >attention > > > > your are getting in so many ways, all the time, maybe you need to look > > >at this > > > > far more carefully to understand your own part in it. It can't always > > >be > > > > "everyone else". > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > Debie & Joe wrote: > > > > > > > > > Jan, > > > > > > > > > > I think you are taking this way to personally. I didn't get > > > > > > > > the impression that Mari was attacking you or telling you she didn't > > > > > > > > want to hear your ideas. She was bringing concerns about visually > > > > > impaired people. Perhaps all it would have needed was to point out > > > > > that it could be done either way. Mari did say she is sight > > >impaired, > > > > > perhaps she didn't see that it could be done two ways. > > > > > > > > > > Don't take this so much to heart, we have all stopped > > > > > attacking each other, > > > > > > > > > > I hope you have a better day, > > > > > > > > > > Debie Blindauer > > > > > > > > > > Calumet & Sheboygan Counties > > > > > > > > > > At 12:59 PM 1/27/2006, you wrote: > > > > > >My apologies Mari...... I guess I haven't realized yet that I > > > > > >cannot say anything on WIGEN- without it being taken the wrong > > > > > >way. God, I must be a horrid person...... > > > > > > > > > > > >I really think its time for me to reassess my priorities and maybe > > > > > >completely removing myself from USGenWeb is the route to take. > > >I'll > > > > > >be thinking that over for a few weeks while I stay away from this > > >computer. > > > > > > > > > > > >I have cried over this this morning until I am sick and I NEVER > > >ever > > > > > >want to have to repeat this again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > > >Celebrate Wisconsin! > > >Visit the Taylor County WIGenWeb Project Pages > > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~witaylor/ > > > > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > > Celebrate Wisconsin! > > Visit the Vilas County WIGenWeb Project Pages > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wivilas/ > > > >==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== >Celebrate Wisconsin! >Visit the Waushara County WIGenWeb Project Pages >http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwausha/wsctweb.html >Visit the Wood County WIGenWeb Project Pages >http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwood/