In a message dated 2/2/2006 2:59:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, budlink@surewest.net writes: I have learned over the years that causes SO many problems!! is handled well by the majority of browsers but that old height is a real bug-a-boo!! My suggestion is to remove the reference to table height!! Bye the way... I viewed your page using Firefox and Mac OS X.4 and it looks fine!! Really! Jeannette Harper County Coordinator/Webmaster Douglas County GenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~widougla/ Thanks Jeannette for the advise!!! I've learned each browser sees things a tad differently... Take care, Anne Shawano CC
Oops! I forgot about that one. But, no, I was actually asking about the one at http://www.rootsweb.com/~wibiog/ . My old address is listed in quite a few places on that site and I still am getting requests for transcripts, so I don't dare give up on the address...even though I really want to. Is there a way to get the info changed like you did on the Wisconsin pages? Can I be of help in doing it, since I'm the one causing the problem? Nance On 2/4/06, Tina S. Vickery <tsvickery@adelphia.net> wrote: > > Nance is this the link you are referring to? > http://www.rockvillemama.com/wisconsin/index.htm > > Tina
post script to my posting on cemeteries. Our local society copied many old tombstones in the 60's, 70's and 80's, including this Rohlf cemetery. Since my current cemetery project involves a small cemetery, with only 26 stones (copied in the 70's) you can imagine my shock, when one of the other people who wants to help clean up this cemetery, went over the list while at the site, to be sure he found them all..............and discovered a new surname, not listed on the 1970's list. He can't find two old names on the old list, but he did find two NEW stones. Or did the somebody type out a wrong name????? Yikes, looks like our work is never done!!! needless to say, I think we will re-do the entire site while we are cleaning it up, including probing the soil for buried stones. new motto........be ever vigilant!! tracy reinhardt ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.M.N." <ocontogal2000@yahoo.com> To: <WIGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 6:04 PM Subject: [WIGEN-L] old cemeteries > One quick addition to this terrific posting by Tracy; > The information below is in regards to the cemetery burial grounds only. "Perpetual Care" refers only to the burial grounds. Actual care of the gravestones and markers is up to the descendant families for all time. The grounds keepers are not obligated to do repair or replacement of stone or monuments and if they fall, they can be left in place flat on the ground. Above ground structures such as mausoleums may be torn down and removed if they become a safety hazard, and > the bodies, if above ground, are buried in graves on that spot. Marking those graves is up to the family descendants or interested groups. > > (Long term protection and repair can be done very well with the "Outdoor Goop" product which dries clear, seals into the stone or wood to protect from moisture, expands and contracts with temperature changes along with the stone/wood so as not to crack, maintaining a 50 to 100 year seal that does not discolor. - I have 12 year old repairs to absolutely shattered stones that look like the day I completed putting them back together, up north here. Stones should be washed > and left to fully dry before gluing pieces together and coating the outside. It smells like horseradish. Do the work outdoors). > > Although some grounds keepers are now using "Roundup" or "Safer" weed control products to keep the fallen slabs viewable, not many are doing this and they are soon grown over with sod. Basically this means they are lost unless a family member or group project (church, scouts, vets, historical society, etc.) comes along to dig and return them to upright positions on the graves. The grave must then be fully leveled, raked and grass seeded so grounds care can be maintained > properly. This is especially true to municipally maintained cemeteries, and some religious affiliated ones as well. With any privately or group owned cemetery it is strongly suggested that you ask for their own policies on repair and replacement. > > Private cemeteries on land that is no longer family owned are often lost. The stones are generally removed and piled at one edge of the property with the fieldstone, or may be erected in local cemeteries, but the remains are not moved unless the family does so with the land owner's permission. Literally "from dust to dust". > Hope this helps. > Rita > > tracy reinhardt wrote: > > > thank you to those who responded. > > > > For your information, here is what I sought: > > > > Q: Whose responsibility is it to take care of a local cemetery? > > > > Care and maintenance of a cemetery falls to the property owner. The property owner may be a private individual, association, organization, or municipality. > > > > If a cemetery has fallen into despair or has been abandoned, for five or more years, then the responsibility for the care of the cemetery reverts to the municipality the cemetery is located in. If the municipality fails to care for the cemetery, 6 or more interested persons can petition the circuit judge to order the municipality to care for the cemetery. The municipality will then be required to care for the cemetery as they provide for other cemeteries in the town. > > > > a.. Wisc. Stat 157.115(1)(b)2-(b)3. > > thanks again > > tracy reinhardt > > > > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > > Celebrate Wisconsin! > > Visit the Washburn County WIGenWeb Project Pages > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwashbu/ > > > > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > Celebrate Wisconsin! > Visit the Walworth County WIGenWeb Project Pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwalwor/ >
One quick addition to this terrific posting by Tracy; The information below is in regards to the cemetery burial grounds only. "Perpetual Care" refers only to the burial grounds. Actual care of the gravestones and markers is up to the descendant families for all time. The grounds keepers are not obligated to do repair or replacement of stone or monuments and if they fall, they can be left in place flat on the ground. Above ground structures such as mausoleums may be torn down and removed if they become a safety hazard, and the bodies, if above ground, are buried in graves on that spot. Marking those graves is up to the family descendants or interested groups. (Long term protection and repair can be done very well with the "Outdoor Goop" product which dries clear, seals into the stone or wood to protect from moisture, expands and contracts with temperature changes along with the stone/wood so as not to crack, maintaining a 50 to 100 year seal that does not discolor. - I have 12 year old repairs to absolutely shattered stones that look like the day I completed putting them back together, up north here. Stones should be washed and left to fully dry before gluing pieces together and coating the outside. It smells like horseradish. Do the work outdoors). Although some grounds keepers are now using "Roundup" or "Safer" weed control products to keep the fallen slabs viewable, not many are doing this and they are soon grown over with sod. Basically this means they are lost unless a family member or group project (church, scouts, vets, historical society, etc.) comes along to dig and return them to upright positions on the graves. The grave must then be fully leveled, raked and grass seeded so grounds care can be maintained properly. This is especially true to municipally maintained cemeteries, and some religious affiliated ones as well. With any privately or group owned cemetery it is strongly suggested that you ask for their own policies on repair and replacement. Private cemeteries on land that is no longer family owned are often lost. The stones are generally removed and piled at one edge of the property with the fieldstone, or may be erected in local cemeteries, but the remains are not moved unless the family does so with the land owner's permission. Literally "from dust to dust". Hope this helps. Rita tracy reinhardt wrote: > thank you to those who responded. > > For your information, here is what I sought: > > Q: Whose responsibility is it to take care of a local cemetery? > > Care and maintenance of a cemetery falls to the property owner. The property owner may be a private individual, association, organization, or municipality. > > If a cemetery has fallen into despair or has been abandoned, for five or more years, then the responsibility for the care of the cemetery reverts to the municipality the cemetery is located in. If the municipality fails to care for the cemetery, 6 or more interested persons can petition the circuit judge to order the municipality to care for the cemetery. The municipality will then be required to care for the cemetery as they provide for other cemeteries in the town. > > a.. Wisc. Stat 157.115(1)(b)2-(b)3. > thanks again > tracy reinhardt > > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > Celebrate Wisconsin! > Visit the Washburn County WIGenWeb Project Pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwashbu/
Nance is this the link you are referring to? http://www.rockvillemama.com/wisconsin/index.htm Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "WI CC x 6" <wigenwebcc@gmail.com> To: <WIGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 3:13 PM Subject: [WIGEN-L] Wisconsin Biographies Project >I know that this doesn't particularly pertain to our county projects, but > I've been wondering if there is a way to get contact information changed > on > the Wisconsin Biographies Project? If so, I'd like to hear from someone > on > how to do it. > > Thanks for any help you can give. > > Nance > > > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > Celebrate Wisconsin! > Visit the Trempealeau County WIGenWeb Project Pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~witrempe/ > >
I know that this doesn't particularly pertain to our county projects, but I've been wondering if there is a way to get contact information changed on the Wisconsin Biographies Project? If so, I'd like to hear from someone on how to do it. Thanks for any help you can give. Nance
I know this doesn't exactly pertain to Wisconsin GenWeb but in a way it does... If you are like me and have a link for the Michigan Archives, they have a new address: THE CORRECT ADDRESS IS: Michigan Department of History, Arts and Libraries, Michigan Historical Center, State Archives of Michigan, 702 West Kalamazoo Street, P.O. Box 30740, Lansing, MI 48909-8240 Phone: (517) 373-1408 Fax: (517) 241-1658 TDD 1-800-827-7007 e-mail: archives@michigan.gov http://www.michigan.gov/statearchives I used to have an incorrect and very outdated address and was told "Mail sent to the old address is often delayed and misdirected." State Archives of Michigan Department of State 717 West Allegan Street Lansing, MI 48918 Telephone: (517) 373-1408 Just thought I would share!! Jeannette Harper County Coordinator/Webmaster Douglas County GenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~widougla/
thank you to those who responded. For your information, here is what I sought: Q: Whose responsibility is it to take care of a local cemetery? Care and maintenance of a cemetery falls to the property owner. The property owner may be a private individual, association, organization, or municipality. If a cemetery has fallen into despair or has been abandoned, for five or more years, then the responsibility for the care of the cemetery reverts to the municipality the cemetery is located in. If the municipality fails to care for the cemetery, 6 or more interested persons can petition the circuit judge to order the municipality to care for the cemetery. The municipality will then be required to care for the cemetery as they provide for other cemeteries in the town. a.. Wisc. Stat 157.115(1)(b)2-(b)3. thanks again tracy reinhardt
_Historic Cemeteries: Frequently Asked Questions About Burial Sites at the Wisconsin Historical Society_ (http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/hp/burialsites/faq/cemeteriesq.asp) This might just answer your question, "Fond du lac cemetery lady"... and a very good cause it is that you have taken up!!! Mega praise!! Anne Shawano GenWeb
I would try the Wisconsin state historical society in Madison. At one time they had a cemetery office, and the lady was very knowledgeable about cemetery's and the legal responsibilites. With budget cuts, etc...I don't know if she is still there, but that is where I would start. Erin ----- Original Message ----- From: "tracy reinhardt" <fondygenie@charter.net> To: <WIGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:44 PM Subject: [WIGEN-L] cemetery question > Does anyone have a source, or knowledge of requirements to maintain old > cemeteries. > > I know everyone talks as if a township is required to maintain a cemetery, > if requested to do so by a descendant or family member of someone buried > there, but I have never seen a statute or reference to the exact wording > of any law. > > The WSOCS website has no reference to that, and only seems busy copying > stones. > > I want to request a township to maintain an old cemetery after we have > cleaned it up, and if they say....NO, then I need something to fall back > on. > This old cemetery has never ever been maintained. the last burial was in > 1874, and there is a War of 1812 veteran buried there who has never had a > flag placed on his grave for memorial day. (it's my children's > gt-gt-gt-grandfather). > > So, I hope someone on this list can help me dig out the legal references. > I don't want to use them, but I want them handy as my ace in the hole. > > thanks for any and all assist...my meeting is Feb 13, with the town > tracy reinhardt > rapidly becoming known as fond du lac's cemetery lady > > > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > Celebrate Wisconsin! > Visit the Vernon County WIGenWeb Project Pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wivernon/ >
Hi all, I am opening IRC chat tonight.. for any that may wish to join! Been a long time, so here is the link to the instructions. http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/irc-chat.html Tina
Does anyone have a source, or knowledge of requirements to maintain old cemeteries. I know everyone talks as if a township is required to maintain a cemetery, if requested to do so by a descendant or family member of someone buried there, but I have never seen a statute or reference to the exact wording of any law. The WSOCS website has no reference to that, and only seems busy copying stones. I want to request a township to maintain an old cemetery after we have cleaned it up, and if they say....NO, then I need something to fall back on. This old cemetery has never ever been maintained. the last burial was in 1874, and there is a War of 1812 veteran buried there who has never had a flag placed on his grave for memorial day. (it's my children's gt-gt-gt-grandfather). So, I hope someone on this list can help me dig out the legal references. I don't want to use them, but I want them handy as my ace in the hole. thanks for any and all assist...my meeting is Feb 13, with the town tracy reinhardt rapidly becoming known as fond du lac's cemetery lady
I have updated the WIGenWeb Project Bayfield County pages and placed them at http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/bayfield/, and requested an account with Rootsweb for its permanent home. If any of you link to Bayfield County, please change your links to the above. If any of you have specific Bayfield County links or material you would like me to include, I would be more than happy to add the resources. You may contact me privately. Thanks! Tina
Hi Erin, not at the moment, but you could ask the Kopets .. at times they add additional photos for cemeteries already up as they did tonight with Darien in Walworth.. Good luck! Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erin Proctor" <Proctor37@charter.net> To: <WIGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [WIGEN-L] Iowa, Milwaukee and Walworth County Cemetery Tombstone Photos > Hi Tina, > What an amazing coincidence that you would post these Highland Public > cemetery photos tonight, as I have been looking for a few days for the > Norris family in Highland, and you post Catherine Norris tombstone. Do you > have more to post for that cemetary? Her stone has 3 other sides, and I am > curious if her hubby, and who else may be on it? > Thanks > Erin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tina S. Vickery" <tsvickery@adelphia.net> > To: <WIGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 6:14 PM > Subject: [WIGEN-L] Iowa, Milwaukee and Walworth County Cemetery Tombstone > Photos > > >> Iowa County (Highland Township) Highland Public Cemetery >> Tombstone Photos >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/iowa-highlandtwp-highlandpublic.html >> >> Milwaukee County (Milwaukee) St Johns Evangelical Lutheran >> Cemetery Tombstone Photos >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/milwaukee-stjohnevanelical.html >> >> ADDITIONAL PHOTOS: Walworth County (Darien) Darien Cemetery >> Tombstone Photos >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/darien.html >> >> Walworth County (Geneva Township) Dunbar Cemetery Tombstone >> Photos >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/wal-genevatwp-dunbar.html >> >> These photos were generously taken and contributed to these >> pages by Larry and Linda Kopet! Please take a moment to thank >> them for this terrific resource! >> >> An index to Tombstone Photograph Pages is located at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/ >> >> Tina >> >> >> ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== >> Celebrate Wisconsin! >> Visit the Trempealeau County WIGenWeb Project Pages >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~witrempe/ >> > > > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > Celebrate Wisconsin! > Visit the Vilas County WIGenWeb Project Pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wivilas/ > >
Iowa County (Highland Township) Highland Public Cemetery Tombstone Photos http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/iowa-highlandtwp-highlandpublic.html Milwaukee County (Milwaukee) St Johns Evangelical Lutheran Cemetery Tombstone Photos http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/milwaukee-stjohnevanelical.html ADDITIONAL PHOTOS: Walworth County (Darien) Darien Cemetery Tombstone Photos http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/darien.html Walworth County (Geneva Township) Dunbar Cemetery Tombstone Photos http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/wal-genevatwp-dunbar.html These photos were generously taken and contributed to these pages by Larry and Linda Kopet! Please take a moment to thank them for this terrific resource! An index to Tombstone Photograph Pages is located at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/ Tina
Hi Tina, What an amazing coincidence that you would post these Highland Public cemetery photos tonight, as I have been looking for a few days for the Norris family in Highland, and you post Catherine Norris tombstone. Do you have more to post for that cemetary? Her stone has 3 other sides, and I am curious if her hubby, and who else may be on it? Thanks Erin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina S. Vickery" <tsvickery@adelphia.net> To: <WIGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 6:14 PM Subject: [WIGEN-L] Iowa, Milwaukee and Walworth County Cemetery Tombstone Photos > Iowa County (Highland Township) Highland Public Cemetery > Tombstone Photos > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/iowa-highlandtwp-highlandpublic.html > > Milwaukee County (Milwaukee) St Johns Evangelical Lutheran > Cemetery Tombstone Photos > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/milwaukee-stjohnevanelical.html > > ADDITIONAL PHOTOS: Walworth County (Darien) Darien Cemetery > Tombstone Photos > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/darien.html > > Walworth County (Geneva Township) Dunbar Cemetery Tombstone > Photos > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/wal-genevatwp-dunbar.html > > These photos were generously taken and contributed to these > pages by Larry and Linda Kopet! Please take a moment to thank > them for this terrific resource! > > An index to Tombstone Photograph Pages is located at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/ > > Tina > > > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > Celebrate Wisconsin! > Visit the Trempealeau County WIGenWeb Project Pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~witrempe/ >
An FYI. Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Haas Davenport" <lhaasdav@cox.net> To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:30 AM Subject: [STATE-COORD] Rootsweb list mail blacklisted > Just an FYI. > > Someone reported Rootsweb to spamcop.net as a spammer with the > result that many list administrators are receiving bounces. Based > on the number of bounces I've received for the national lists I'm > guessing the bounces are affecting only the people who use > spamcop. I have notified Rootsweb of the problem and hopefully it > will be resolved soon. > > Linda Haas Davenport > NC USGenWeb Project > > >
Waukesha County (Town of Pewaukee) Pilgrims Rest - Busse Cemetery Tombstone Photos Anderson, Helen Niedermeier - Gusho, Anthony M. and Ella A. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/wauk-pewaukee-pilgrimrestbusse01.html Haberland, William and Sophie - Niedermeier William E. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/wauk-pewaukee-pilgrimrestbusse02.html Ofthus, Louis N. and Stephanie Zenil Lucas - Zimmerman, Oscar R. and Elsie A. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/wauk-pewaukee-pilgrimrestbusse03.html These photos were generously taken and contributed to these pages by Larry and Linda Kopet! Please take a moment to thank them for this terrific resource! An index to Tombstone Photograph Pages is located at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/ Tina
Please, please, please can we get back to the original genealogy and family history on this list after such a long difficult struggle? Can each one of us please refrain from long preachy sermons about how others should act, or going on at great length about our "feelings". Can be go back to making it safe to ask questions, offer suggestions and look at things from different directions? One caring skillful, hard working adult to another? I deeply miss the time when we had that. Yes, me included of course, Rita
Hi MAK, It appears your e-mail program or something has shown it exactly the way it would appear if taking a mouse to click on the e-mail. Using your e-mail address as an example, your e-mail is: maktranscriber@yahoo.com. The code would be entered as follows: maktranscriber@yahoo.com, now I have to assume your e-mail program or perhaps even the mail list is changing it, so I will try a different way to show you the HTML that I have been trying to show you. It is actually the "And" {&} symbol, next to it is the "Pound" {#} symbol, followed by the numbers 064 {Zero - Six - Four} and the ";" {semi -colon}. If this works, it would be all put together and minus the two equal signs, it will look like this =@= It automatically changes it to the @ symbol when looking at it or clicking on it to send an e-mail. Like I said, I have found that the spam programs are not able to harvest the e-mails because they don't see the @ symbol. Please let me know if this route works, otherwise e-mail me privately if there is perhaps a different e-mail I could send it to that wouldn't automatically change it. Sorry about that, I never thought it would change everything to the @ symbol. Debie Blindauer Calumet & Sheboygan Counties At 06:06 AM 1/28/2006, you wrote: >Debie - I am slow - can you explain this symbol >thingee - it looks the same in the email below - >thanks. R/S MAK > >--- Debie & Joe <sebring@excel.net> wrote: > > As for the e-mail addresses and spam, have > > you tried the > > html for making the @ sign? Back some time ago, > > Ellen shared this > > information with me. All you have to do is change > > the @ symbol to > > > > @ > > > > When placing your mouse over it, the it > > shows as the @ > > symbol, but for the spam programs that harvest > > e-mails, it misses > > these because it looks for the @ symbol and it isn't > > there. It is > > real simple to use and real fast to change. I have > > been using it for > > all of my webpages since Ellen told me about it. > > > > Just a thought, > > > > Debie Blindauer > >MAKtranscriber >http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwood >http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiportag >http://www.rootsweb.com/~wimonroe > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com