I received a very nice message yesterday that I thought I would pass along to you all. Here it is: Dear Nance, I have been searching for Abram Coon in Eau Claire County for some time and found him today on your site! I'll need to check more original documents to be sure it is the Abram Coon I seek, but I'm pretty sure. Also, I've been tortured by a poorly written 1860 census entry for my John F. Stone family in Bridge Creek, Eau Claire, WI. I thought it looked like "Hortoutice" but thought what kind of name is that?! Today, on your site, I found an enlisted man whose age would match with the name Hortentio Stone. At last! I can't thank you enough for the work you have done. You are blessing families all over the world. May God bless you. Warm Regards, Kathy Jensen +++++++++++ The items that Kathy found were in records that were donated by other people (Thanks Joy, Tina and Cheryl!). I wrote Kathy back and encouraged her to consider donating information to our project -- which is what I will continue to do to help Wisconsin become a major contributor to the USGenWeb Archives project! Just had to share this with you all. Thanks! -- Nance mailto:nsampson@spacestar.net

WIGenWeb Project Meetings Place: IRC server: irc.rootsweb.com (6667) Room: #USGW-WI Time: 9 PM EST Wednesdays http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/irc-chat.html Tina

A great family history story has been submitted to the Burnett County Archives. It is on the CORNELISON family of Aaron, in Rusk Township. If you want to know what life was like in the early days of Northwestern Wisconsin, stop by and read this interesting story. It's located at: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/burnett/family_histories/cornelis.txt -- Nance mailto:nsampson@spacestar.net

The final three files of the 1884 Eau Claire City Directory have been typed and uploaded to the archives. These files include: Introduction to the 1884 Eau Claire City Directory: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/eauclaire/directories/1884intr.txt Miscellaneous Information: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/eauclaire/directories/1884misc.txt Classified Business Directory: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/eauclaire/directories/1884busi.txt -- Nance mailto:nsampson@spacestar.net

Well, I have a ways before I catch Nance (go Nance go!) But I just finished transcribing the 1926 Roster of Faculty and Students, Racine High School, Racine ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/racine/school/1926kipikawi.txt I think Racine county is the only place in the world where it is easier to research "Jones" than many other usually uncommon surnames (JENSEN, for example). Kelly Kelly Jensen-Mullins Wisconsin Archives Census http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/states/wisconsi/wisconsi.htm

Hi All, I am extending the discussion of the motions and the deadline for submissions of logos until Monday, March 27, 2000. Voting will begin on Wednesday, March 29, 2000 and continue to Wednesday, April 5, 2000, 9 PM EST. Tina

Four more biographies were added to the Barron County Archives this afternoon. They include: GREGERSON, Greger ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/barron/biographies/gregers1.txt GREGERSON, Ole ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/barron/biographies/gregers2.txt GREGERSON, Thomas ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/barron/biographies/gregers3.txt TORGERSON, Ole ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/barron/biographies/torgers1.txt -- Nance mailto:nsampson@spacestar.net

The 1884 Eau Claire City Directory has been typed and added to the Eau Claire Archives page as the following files: A Guide to the Streets and Avenues of Eau Claire ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/eauclaire/directories/sts-aves.txt 1884 Eau Claire City Directory - Surnames A - C ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/eauclaire/directories/1884a-c.txt 1884 Eau Claire City Directory - Surnames D - F ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/eauclaire/directories/1884d-f.txt 1884 Eau Claire City Directory - Surnames G - I ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/eauclaire/directories/1884g-i.txt 1884 Eau Claire City Directory - Surnames J - L ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/eauclaire/directories/1884j-l.txt 1884 Eau Claire City Directory - Surnames M - O ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/eauclaire/directories/1884m-o.txt 1884 Eau Claire City Directory - Surnames P - R ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/eauclaire/directories/1884p-r.txt 1884 Eau Claire City Directory - Surnames S - T ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/eauclaire/directories/1884s-t.txt 1884 Eau Claire City Directory - Surnames U - Z ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/eauclaire/directories/1884u-z.txt There are 6,524 names within these files. Stop by and see if your surname is there! -- Nance mailto:nsampson@spacestar.net

An obituary for William L. Wislen of Sawyer County has been added to the archives at: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/sawyer/obituaries/wislen.txt One done, looking for many more to go! -- Nance mailto:nsampson@spacestar.net

This week we are dancing the Irish Leprecaun Dance with all the new goodies!!! >From John Griener: Bayfield County Press issue of 10 March 1905 Bayfield's Past features Bayfield's 50th Anniversary **NEW FEATURE** The Wall came tumbling Down - a mystery solved!! (And John is checking our query boards and solving more every day!) >From Donna Bell Cross: More Marriage announcements!! Is your ancestor there? >From Zoe Lappin: Bayfield County Journal Yesteryear of 4 April 1885 (last one on list) Bayfield County Journal Memories Column of 4 September 1941 Commemorative & Biographical Index of the Upper Great Lakes. http://www.usgennet.org/~ahwibayf/contents.html Please Enjoy & Happy St. Patrick's Day!! Jan, Donna, John & Zoe Bayfield County

WIGenWeb Project Meetings Place: IRC server: irc.rootsweb.com (6667) Room: #USGW-WI Time: 9 PM EST Wednesdays Tina

Hi all, The Page guidelines that are posted on http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/volunteer.html are a combination of the USGenWeb Project By-laws and the USGenWeb Project Info for Volunteers located at http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/countypage.html and http://www.usgenweb.org/official/bylaws.html respectively. Part of the decision we face is the definition of bylaws vs. guidelines. That is why this discussion was brought to the list, for resolution, guidance, and consensus from the group as a whole. Creativity, autonomy, sense of teamwork is what the bottom line discussion is all about. The motions presented will add further definition and clarity to the guidelines posted and will serve as a tool for all of us to use in the administration of our pages. By bringing these to vote we can put to rest these lingering questions, and provide a mechanism for dealing with future issues should they arise. Discussion of these motions will continue until Monday, March 22, 2000. Voting will begin on Wednesday, March 23, 2000, and continue until Tuesday, March 28, 2000, at 9 PM EST. All CC's and Co-CC's will have one vote each, majority voting will rule, and the volunteers page updated accordingly. Submission of logos for consideration will be accepted until Monday, March 22, 2000, and the URL for the submitted logos will be available on-line prior to the vote commencing. I will announce the method of voting prior to the start. Tina

M, I am amazed at how people don't understand that speed has alot to do with their servers, their modeum, and their choices (grin). WOW, did he mention how great the site was once it loaded??? Or the LOW FEES, oh it's FREE? Probably not... I also like the lake one and with COX cable loads like nothing flat (grin)... There is always someone out there to bitch a fit, no matter what. AS for choices, that is why I asked for a vote. Democracy can be a great thing. Liked the comments about the IL voting system. Has merit. R/S MAK --- WIGEN-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ===== ===== TheStorm http://www.rootsweb.com/TheStorm MAK = "Mar sea ah Ann Keel" ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

excuse me, but... Mak wrote: We are already using the USGenWeb Logo, and it seems to make sense (to some people) to add the WIGenWEb Logo (some people are using them and NONE of us voted on it or agreed to it, we just sorta did it, and now there is a hodgepodge of stuff, but NONE of it is offical without a vote). Besides, all WI CC's will have the right to vote whether mandatory use for the logo/banner is IN or OUT. If we vote YES on it, then all WI CCs have the right to vote on what logo to use. [I made a joke about the cow, as the SC and I have a great working relationship and can poke alittle fun at each other without having to explain it is in jest. But if it is voted in, I WILL use it.] Also, I stated for the MAIN page, not all the pages, but if the WI CC wanted to use it on each, they could. And I reply to this: Here is an excerpt from an email posted by our SC back in December, and the way I read it, we have not had the choice, but have been instructed to comply or suffer the consequences, (VBG) although, I have not found out yet as to what they would be. Excerpt begin ------- Every page must have a pointer to the Wisconsin State Page, and must display the USGenWeb Logo and the WIGenWeb Logo. These logos are available at http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/graphics.html. Please have these logos and links to the state page in place by January 15, 2000. End excerpt -------- Just my two cents worth, and by no means meant to offend anyone, just reposting the e-letter and wondering. This is my personal view only and does not neccesarily convey the views of my CO-CCs or anyone else. JT

All, In IL, where I am also a CC, they: * announce a vote, * take about a week for discussion on the ILGen list, * call for the vote, * give about 5-7 days for voting, then * close the voting. Voting is over at a specific time, on a specific day. Votes are submitted either to the list or one of 2 people, who copy each other on all votes and cross-check each other's counts. Usually, the SC knows who is out of town, ill or otherwise out of the loop, and can contact them, if necessary. It seems to work well. Just a suggestion. Take what you like & leave the rest. ;-) Marsha MKnauft@aol.com wrote: > > Hello all, > > As I have said in the past, I prefer to have a graphically "slim" page > which allows for fast loading. I have the USGenWeb logo at the top along > with a large title stating that you have arrived at the Dane Co. WIGenWeb > site. > > As for voting, I think a simple majority of those voting would be > appropriate to determine the outcome. As long as we give enough warning > and time, people who care will be able to vote, even if they are out of > town for a while. > > Dawn M. Knauft, CGRS > Coordinator, Dane Co. WiGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~widane > WiSearch, Professional Genealogical Research > http://www.wisearch.net

Melissa, Was that my father? ;-) That sounds just like my dad! You should hear him about cookies! Marsha (Temp) Iron Co. Kewaunee CC wrote: > > This is kind of funny because I just got a very rude and immature > email from somebody saying basically how dare I have those graphics on > my page because genealogists have better things to do than wait for > those (might I add TINYusgenweb and wigenweb) graphics to load, and > they are not interested in seeing them, and my less than 30kb of > graphics I have on my page caused the poor guy to have to wait 15 > minutes for the page to load. HA HA. Oh ya, and I have "cutsy" > little boxes around my data (I.E. a table) that is just as equally > useless to him. I've been heavily repressing my urge to email them an > equally polite letter back letting him know that he really let his > ignorance show. Maybe I'll just add some background music. That lake > applet might work too. : ) I love the lake applet.

This is kind of funny because I just got a very rude and immature email from somebody saying basically how dare I have those graphics on my page because genealogists have better things to do than wait for those (might I add TINYusgenweb and wigenweb) graphics to load, and they are not interested in seeing them, and my less than 30kb of graphics I have on my page caused the poor guy to have to wait 15 minutes for the page to load. HA HA. Oh ya, and I have "cutsy" little boxes around my data (I.E. a table) that is just as equally useless to him. I've been heavily repressing my urge to email them an equally polite letter back letting him know that he really let his ignorance show. Maybe I'll just add some background music. That lake applet might work too. : ) I love the lake applet. Does the person who created that blue Wisconsin banner thing know what font that is in? In the bylaws it states: "A website may list research materials and/or services which may be for sale/hire, either by the coordinator, a genealogy society, or others. Such a listing shall not be on the main web page for the site, but may be linked from the main web page. It may be appropriate to include a disclaimer that the coordinator and The USGenWeb Project do not guarantee the contents of such research materials and/or the expertise of any professional researchers." I'm just wondering though how much is too much links to things that the people would have to pay for? Should there be a set number of things that could be for fee, or maybe a percentage of your page. I'm torn on this matter because I have the historical society giving me indexes to things people can purchase, but the USGenweb moto is practically "free genealogy on the internet". I don't like being a classified ad for the county library and historical society, but I know the people who come to my pages who've purchased things are happy I have it. (though there are also probably people who hate it) Where does the balance come in? Now the historical society wants to know if I'll put the name of a person who will do research for a fee on my pages. I don't think it's right to to advertise all this 'for fee' stuff when the USGenweb advertises 'free genealogy', but if even some of the researchers are willing to utilize it, do I not put it up just because of my own personal feelings? Perhaps this is something the SC can clarify more for me.. or us. Melissa

I think some people mis-understood the intent of my motions. My belief is that there should be an offical vote on ALL issues which are raised in discussion that will ultimately determine what WI CCs can or can't do on the pages. A "discussion" just doesn't cut it, as the majority of people don't even get involved , but are "forced" to live with the vocal majority. All WI CCs have a right to determine what happens in the WIGenWeb project and the fairest way for all to be heard and represented is in a vote. Second, way TOO much was read into my motion about whether or not there should be an offical set of WIGenWeb logos or banners (this is a bar across the top of the page combining words and graphics - NOT banner as in a flag). Simply put, what I suggested was a set of logos or banners, in differing color schemes, so they MATCH the pages that each CC currently has. I didn't say anything about stiffeling anyone's creativity, taking down what you have, or anything else. We are already using the USGenWeb Logo, and it seems to make sense (to some people) to add the WIGenWEb Logo (some people are using them and NONE of us voted on it or agreed to it, we just sorta did it, and now there is a hodgepodge of stuff, but NONE of it is offical without a vote). Besides, all WI CC's will have the right to vote whether mandatory use for the logo/banner is IN or OUT. If we vote YES on it, then all WI CCs have the right to vote on what logo to use. [I made a joke about the cow, as the SC and I have a great working relationship and can poke alittle fun at each other without having to explain it is in jest. But if it is voted in, I WILL use it.] Also, I stated for the MAIN page, not all the pages, but if the WI CC wanted to use it on each, they could. Contrary to popular belief, we DO happen to be an organization, which provides free genealogy to the public. While we DON'T sell anything, we certainly provide a service. USGenWeb has guidelines (by-laws) which we are required to follow. Also, there are WIGenWeb by-laws posted. The point is that NONE of the WI CCs voted on them, which seems like the WI CCs would want to have the right to vote them in or out, especially if we are going to have to follow them. While discussions on the topic may be heated (grin), please try to be kind and thoughtful in your replies (and remember your email has the same effect as if standing with a microphone in front of a large audience - the delivery is being broadcast to many people, without the body language, so your message could be easily misunderstood). There are so many wonderful people on this list, who would love to hear ALL the opinions, when put forth in a positive and constructive format. There is NO need to get huffy, or make inappropriate remarks about people who are different from YOU or YOUR tastes. (And if you have the urge, send it privately to avoid embarassment.) In closing, I am extremely proud to support the few organizations who claim my membership, and try to treat those individuals with the same respect and dignity that I would like to be afforded. And damned right, I am a FLAG waving, baby kissing, country loving MARINE, who will defend your right to disagree with me, to DEATH if necessary. So, please, take take time to look at what the current by-laws are and what my post said. We might have more in common than not. Thanks for listening, and constructive criticism (one on one) is always welcome. R/S MAK --- WIGEN-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

Hello all, As I have said in the past, I prefer to have a graphically "slim" page which allows for fast loading. I have the USGenWeb logo at the top along with a large title stating that you have arrived at the Dane Co. WIGenWeb site. As for voting, I think a simple majority of those voting would be appropriate to determine the outcome. As long as we give enough warning and time, people who care will be able to vote, even if they are out of town for a while. Dawn M. Knauft, CGRS Coordinator, Dane Co. WiGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~widane WiSearch, Professional Genealogical Research http://www.wisearch.net >I like the applet also Shari! I think we should be able to do with the >pages as we want and stop worring so much about logo's! Although my >counterpart JT has the right idea I like the teal and pink thought >myself!! ROFL > > CJ :-)

I like the applet also Shari! I think we should be able to do with the pages as we want and stop worring so much about logo's! Although my counterpart JT has the right idea I like the teal and pink thought myself!! ROFL CJ :-) Marsha Wilcox wrote: > Oooo! Shari! Lovely use of the lake applet! > > Marsha > > Shari Milks wrote: > > > > I happen to like what I have on my page...I think it's beautiful! > > If anyone wants to look, its at: > > http://members.xoom.com/2manitowoc > > > > If people can't figure out if's a Wisconsin page, they soon find out. No logos please!! That's for people who like waving flags and titles, and for companies with something to sell. None of these apply to me. Shari > > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Burnett County WIGenWeb Project Pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiburnet/