Okay, MAK.. read it all over, <I think!>, ... tell us sister??? Tina In a message dated Mon, 11 Sep 2000 5:24:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MAK <makkuehl@yahoo.com> writes: << Check out this KUEHL: Kris KUEHL Olympic Team... http://www.windomnews.com/windomnews/myarticles.asp?S=91&P=254454&PubID=4608 Anyone related??? R/S MA KUEHL ===== ===== TheStorm http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwood/TheStorm USC NROTC Alumni http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~uscnrotc/ MAK = "Mar sea ah Ann Keel" ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== Visit the Dane County WIGenWeb Project Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~widane/ >>

Check out this KUEHL: Kris KUEHL Olympic Team... http://www.windomnews.com/windomnews/myarticles.asp?S=91&P=254454&PubID=4608 Anyone related??? R/S MA KUEHL ===== ===== TheStorm http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwood/TheStorm USC NROTC Alumni http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~uscnrotc/ MAK = "Mar sea ah Ann Keel" ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

FYI R/S MAK --- Mary Bakeman <mbakeman@PARKBOOKS.COM> wrote: > > E.B. Quiner's 1000+page classic, "The Military History of Wisconsin in the > War for the Union," was first published in 1866. It contains regimental > histories as well as rosters of the officers serving each WI regiment and > much more. This book has now been reprinted, supplemented with a new > genealogical (every-name) index. > > For those with access to the book at various libraries (the MN Historical > Society holds a copy, for example), the every-name index has also been > published as a separate booklet. > > For more details, see our "hot" list at > http://www.parkbooks.com/Html/hot.html > > Mary > Mary Bakeman > Park Genealogical Books, publishers of MN Genealogical Journal > e-mail mbakeman@parkbooks.com > WWW http://www.parkbooks.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Hello all: Several new things in the last week. First, the 1855 State Census for Pierce County is online. Second, excerpts from the History of Washington County and the St. Croix Valley, submitted by Patricia Dawson is online, with an index. And last, with many thanks to Nance Sampson, the Barron & Sawyer County WIGenWeb project coordinator, 30 biographies from the History of the Chippewa Valley, also with an index. Pierce County is about to hit 450 pages thanks to the efforts of people like Patricia and Nance!!!! Thanks! Debbie Barrett http://www.rootsweb.com/~wipierce/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywashin/

Just a reminder! Wisconsin Genealogy Chat tonight at 9:00 EST. I have invited the Wisconsin County mail list members so hopefully we will have some new visitors tonight. (Please remember the different time zones, so make the necessary adjustments for yours.) http://huntsville.about.com/citiestowns/southeastus/huntsville/mpchat.htm Hope to see you there tonight! Paula _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Thanks JT! Paula >From: "JT" <drjt@flash.net> >To: WIGEN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [WIGEN-L] Protecting our websites >Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 22:04:43 -0500 > >Hello all. > I would just like to throw my two cents in on this protection item. > > I did a dupe page of the old Rock main page and added what I thought, and >was told by a lawyer friend, may be as bout as good as legal as we could >get, disclaimer on it. Please look it over and see what ya think. > > I also added the URL and a future conect statement at the top. > >The page is located at my site below: > >http://home.flash.net/~drjt/index1.html > >Thank you, >JT > > >==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== >Visit the Dunn County WIGenWeb Project Pages >http://www.rootsweb.com/~widunn/ > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Hi all: Am having serious modem problems. I am only able to connect intermittently and don't know how long it will take to resolve this problem. Tina or Holly, could you please let Maggie know. I have been unable to do anything with the tombstone project in Ohio for two weeks. First my ISP dumped all the photo attachments people sent me, now this. It is getting very old. Will let you know when I am back online to stay. Just bought a new US Robotics modem and it is screwing up bad. Debbie Barrett http://www.rootsweb.com/~wipierce/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywashin/

HTML Help Place: IRC server: irc.rootsweb.com (6667) Room: #htmlhelp Time: 11:30 AM EST Sundays Server Side Includes topic this morning. Tina

Hello all. I would just like to throw my two cents in on this protection item. I did a dupe page of the old Rock main page and added what I thought, and was told by a lawyer friend, may be as bout as good as legal as we could get, disclaimer on it. Please look it over and see what ya think. I also added the URL and a future conect statement at the top. The page is located at my site below: http://home.flash.net/~drjt/index1.html Thank you, JT

At 05:18 PM 9/9/00 -0500, Paula Vaughan wrote: >Ok-so now after the meeting and reading the emails from everyone about >protecting our websites-can someone please tell me what I should do to >protect my pages? What do I need to do put on the page and do I need to >put something in the html codes, if so where does that go? Shari posted pretty good suggestions.... the most important thing is to have something right at the top of every page that identifies your site with at least a link to the main page... not tucked away at the bottom where it may not be noticed. It is even better to give the actual url for the page itself. If you make that url an active link as well, it can also be used to break out of a frame. This is the simplest, least technical way to handle it and will manage for any links coming to your pages from other sites as well as be there for those who print it out. It is a better identifier if this part of the information is at the top of your page. Any *statements* may be better placed at or near the bottom along with your usual page endings. >Any help would be appreciated. Joy or Holly had said they would email me, >I believe, so may still get an email with the information. does this help Paula? Debi of Sheboygan and Calumet Counties... got your email and will get to it shortly >Thanks >Paula >WaupacaCC > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > >==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== >Visit the Columbia County WIGenWeb Project Pages >http://www.rootsweb.com/~wicolumb/wicolumb.htm

At 05:00 PM 9/8/00 -0500, Nance Sampson wrote: >Thanks for the great synopsis of the meeting. It will be helpful when I >get around to fixing my pages. I'm wondering if this should be done to the >files that are uploaded to the USGenWeb Archives too? What do you think? The text files in the Archives have a standard header placed on them that clearly identifies there ownership, other than that there is little one can do for plain text files.

A few new births, marriages and deaths of Waupaca County have been added to the site. You can see which surnames pages have been added to on the Waupaca County index page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwaupac/index.htm 53 Biographies have been added in the past week, bringing the total to 284 biographies now on the site. Check for you ancestor at http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Wi/WaupacaBios REMINDER! This is the last day for the free search at Ancestry.com of the Wisconsin Pre-1907 Marriage index http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4997.htm Things may be a little slow on the website in the next couple of weeks, as I am in the process of changing jobs. Soooooooo please bare with me until I have gotten back into a routine. Happy Hunting and have a great week! Paula WaupacaCC http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwaupac/index.htm _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Ok-so now after the meeting and reading the emails from everyone about protecting our websites-can someone please tell me what I should do to protect my pages? What do I need to do put on the page and do I need to put something in the html codes, if so where does that go? Any help would be appreciated. Joy or Holly had said they would email me, I believe, so may still get an email with the information. Thanks Paula WaupacaCC _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Stop by and chat Sunday nights 9:00 p.m. EST at the Wisconsin Genealogy Chat. Let's help each other find the "lost" ancestors http://huntsville.about.com/citiestowns/southeastus/huntsville/mpchat.htm Paula _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

One of my volunteers makes web pages for a living. She was the one who found the server of the pay per view site, and here are some suggestions she made. I see a number of problems here. As far as the break out of frames script..... We could put the link to break out of frames on our pages, but it is very likely he has a counter script that allows us NOT to break out of his frames. Without a subscription I am not able to tell if in fact he has this script running. It is entirely possible that our preventative measures may have no affect on his efforts to take our information. As far as disclaimers/words on page..... What Debbie Barrett has on her site, is not quite right. The "work" is copywritten, that is... "how it is presented", but the data itself is not. The way the statement is written, she claims it is all hers, when in fact it is not. What I suggest we do is two fold. 1) add to our disclaimer page the fact that the material presented here is free and offered through the efforts of volunteers. (and put whatever else we want to say about other peoples frame sets.) 2) As we are working on the pages, add the actual url to all of the pages. This is something I had thought of doing, right after we redid the site. The main purpose I originally thought was if someone printed out the page, they knew exactly where it came from if they wanted to go back and check at a later point in time. Now I guess it has a second purpose. We could have our page bottoms look something like this URL was last updated on 08/12/00 All works copyright © 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000 Disclaimer | Privacy Statement These electronic pages may NOT be reproduced in this format for profit or presentation by any other organization or persons without the permission of Shari Milks

According to the the acceptable use policy on the server this guy has his site hosted on You cannot use 11NET web servers for storage, transmission or presentation of any information in any violation of US Federal or State law. This includes, but is not limited to: unlawful redistribution of any copyrighted material, obscene, racist, or hate publications, or any links to such content. You agree to indemnify and hold 11NET harmless from any claims resulting from the misuse of our service. If a number of people email: abuse@11net.com. And register their complaint, I am sure it will be investigated, and shut down if he is actually taking claim to copywritten material. Shari Milks

http://www.familydiscovery.com Tina In a message dated Fri, 8 Sep 2000 4:56:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Mullins, Kelly" <Kelly_Mullins@fire.ca.gov> writes: << What is the URL for that pay for view site? Kelly ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== Visit the Crawford County WIGenWeb Project Pages http://users.rootsweb.com/~wicrawfo/crawford.htm >>

History of the Town of Eagle is now online: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wirichla/chap23.htm The history of the Town of Willow will be done next. Tim

Hi Tina, Thanks for the great synopsis of the meeting. It will be helpful when I get around to fixing my pages. I'm wondering if this should be done to the files that are uploaded to the USGenWeb Archives too? What do you think? -- Nance mailto:nsampson@spacestar.net

The discussion centered on the topic of page identification and linking, in reference to frames. WI welcomed it's own wonderful volunteers (as SC, I am allowed to gush, <g>), but also visitors from NY, ND, CO, CA, SD, WA, SD, WA, GA, AL, TX, IL, OK, OH, MS, MA, and ME and many other states, so if I missed a state, please forgive me. I very much want to thank Holly Timm, and Joy Fisher, State Coordinator of NY and SD respectively, for leading this discussion. After some visiting and dare I wonder.. cow pies that melt in your mouth and not in your hands, Joy started with introducing a demo page. This page was used to illustrate a frame. http://www.rootsweb.com/~sdgenweb/test/test.html Frames are where one part of the page changes and other part(s) don't. The URL that remains in our browser, is *not* the page that we are actually visiting. Visitors are unable to bookmark, the actual site they are on. A frame places our page(s) *inside* another page, so that its heading is at the top, and [our] URL's do not show. Holly introduced the concept of breakout. Breakout, taking the page out of the frame so it shows by itself. Now on, to the HTML stuff .. TARGET="_top" Thank my lucky stars, someone asked, What does the TARGET="TOP" do? TARGET="_top" breaks you out of frames, if your pages been framed by someone else. http://www.rootsweb.com/~seky/sampleheader.html demonstrates it is clear when someone links to the site from elsewhere. Discussion ensued on notices to be placed on pages to identify not only copyright issues, but also encouraging that our page URL's be prominent, along with identification of the USGenWeb Project affiliation. It was emphasized that breakouts and statements are good but labeling every page will also catch people coming from search engines and various link lists that link direct to the data pages. Meta Tags -- Meta Tags are only used for search engine identification and such, doesn't have anything to do with frames. Meta tags have a reload function that can automatically load or reload a page. Meta Tags help some search engines index your site for keywords. Different HTML editors were discussed and the global search and replace features were mentioned for ease in updating pages. Arachnopilia, Front Page, NoteTab Pro, and Homesite - http://www.allaire.com/download Server Side Include files were mentioned. What is server-side include?? <Tina raises her hand.. !!>.. Server side include is a file that that is called into other files.., in other words do it once, change it once. Gotta love it <g>. That is my take. For a more techie talk on Server Side Includes, come to #htmlhelp Sunday (6:30 AM or 11:30 AM Eastern time) We were reminded to use care when linking to other sites, and to always credit appropriately, the source of the site and the material. Joy, jfisher@ucla.edu and Holly, hollyft@bright.net , will supply anyone who wants -- instructions and code for dealing with frames and protecting our pages. Tina Vickery SC WIGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb