Could someone please send me the link to the admin site for the county-l mailing list for rootsweb? (like mine is wikewaun-l@rootsweb.com) I don't mean Genconnect. I've got tons of addresses bouncing and I thought I had the bookmark on my old computer, but I just checked today and I don't. Thanks, Melissa _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Melissa, This is mine for Richland County - http://lists6.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listowner/wirichla/listutil.pl Yours should then be - http://lists6.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listowner/wikewaun/listutil.pl Tim At 02:35 AM 9/22/00 GMT, Melissa . wrote: >Could someone please send me the link to the admin site for the >county-l mailing list for rootsweb? >(like mine is wikewaun-l@rootsweb.com) I don't mean Genconnect. I've got >tons of addresses bouncing and I thought I had the bookmark on my old >computer, but I just checked today and I don't. > >Thanks, > >Melissa

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------222CDDD8FD6C3BE412DB0BFD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I received this message today. Can anyone point me in a direction that would be helpful to this woman? Thanks in advance. -- Nance mailto:nsampson@spacestar.net --------------222CDDD8FD6C3BE412DB0BFD Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <BMeehan@exchange.ubc.ca> Delivered-To: nsampson@spacestar.net Received: from exchange2.mercury.ubc.ca (exchange2.ubc.ca [137.82.47.7]) by mail1.spacestar.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03A2A715 for <nsampson@spacestar.net>; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:58:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: by exchange2.ubc.ca with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <SVBFGVJT>; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:58:47 -0700 Message-ID: <81C7274A05F3D311AA5900805FC791AE7A0B37@exchange.ubc.ca> From: "Meehan, Beryl" <BMeehan@exchange.ubc.ca> To: "'nsampson@spacestar.net'" <nsampson@spacestar.net> Subject: Barron_Co. UM church Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:58:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Nance, I've read the histories, but I'm still looking for info on a gift of land c. 1890 made by Margurite McAllister for a church in WI. Can you help at all?? Thanks. Beryl Meehan UBC Advancement Services Tel: (604)822-8795 Fax: (604)822-8151 --------------222CDDD8FD6C3BE412DB0BFD--

Had to share this short memoir with you. This month the Oconto County site is having Memoir Maddness! I have asked people for county postings and this one is a real keeper! http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/memoirsPhilippi.htm Other new postings at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/newest.htm Rita - Oconto County WIGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/

zorblitz wrote: > Had to share this short memoir with you. This month the Oconto County > site is having Memoir Maddness! I have asked people for county postings > and this one is a real keeper! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/memoirsPhilippi.htm > Oh, Rita, that's a keeper!!! ROFL!!! -- Nance mailto:nsampson@spacestar.net

I'm in #USGW-WI right now if anyone wants to hear about my new puppy, and I owe Nance an email! (at least!) Kelly -- Kelly Mullins kellyj@snowcrest.net Songbirds - 8 years Shasta Wildlife Rescue & Rehabilitation http://www.shastawildlife.org/ When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it. ~Pooh's Little Instruction Book

My 2cents--I think the suckers are those that would spend $50 for this. I think an information campaign to as many genealogy lists/sites as possible to educate the most likely targets, genealogy newbies, would be our best course of action. If the guy can't make any money, maybe he'll give up and leave. Look at where Halbert's made their money, people like my inlaws who didn't know any better. Robin Hoff Kaspar Volunteer host, Grant County, Wisconsin WIGenweb http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigrant -----Original Message----- From: Tim Stowell [mailto:tstowell@chattanooga.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 11:58 PM To: WIGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WIGEN-L] Familydiscovery.com >Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:49:19 -0700 >X-From_: mloughli@centurytel.com Tue Sep 19 08:49:19 2000 >Old-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:49:06 -0700 >From: marie loughlin <mloughli@centurytel.com> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) >X-Accept-Language: en >To: WIGEN <WIGEN-L@rootsweb.com> >X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list >Subject: {not a subscriber} Familydiscovery.com >X-Envelope-To: WIGEN-L > >Hello Everyone, > >It looks like that this man is systematically gathering emails and >information from all of the county and statewide information data bases >of the internet including the UNGENWEB, and Ancestry/Rootsweb sources. >We as a group are temporary guardians of these sites and are only >individual voices. It would seem to me that the issue of this site >should be brought to the attention to UNGENWEB, Ancestry/Rootsweb >lawyers for litigation. We as a group can offer our support in this >matter but it will be ultimately their call as to the process of >protecting THEIR pages from being pirated. I hope that this man can be >stopped or this will set an awful precedence on the internet. I visited >the home page of his site, and clicked on the subscribe page only to >find the site address is "www.2rich.com". The arrogance of this person >is only rivaled by the words of P. T. Barnum " A sucker is born every >minute". In the end, if this man is using the "disclaimers" on every >page to linking pages, not claiming that the information is his, might >be within his rights. Our protests might be moot. We can only hope that >this can be dealt with and resolved on the national level. > >Best to all and have a good day >Marie K. Loughlin - CC Polk Co. > > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== Visit the Douglas County WIGenWeb Project Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~widougla/

>Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:49:19 -0700 >X-From_: mloughli@centurytel.com Tue Sep 19 08:49:19 2000 >Old-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:49:06 -0700 >From: marie loughlin <mloughli@centurytel.com> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) >X-Accept-Language: en >To: WIGEN <WIGEN-L@rootsweb.com> >X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list >Subject: {not a subscriber} Familydiscovery.com >X-Envelope-To: WIGEN-L > >Hello Everyone, > >It looks like that this man is systematically gathering emails and >information from all of the county and statewide information data bases >of the internet including the UNGENWEB, and Ancestry/Rootsweb sources. >We as a group are temporary guardians of these sites and are only >individual voices. It would seem to me that the issue of this site >should be brought to the attention to UNGENWEB, Ancestry/Rootsweb >lawyers for litigation. We as a group can offer our support in this >matter but it will be ultimately their call as to the process of >protecting THEIR pages from being pirated. I hope that this man can be >stopped or this will set an awful precedence on the internet. I visited >the home page of his site, and clicked on the subscribe page only to >find the site address is "www.2rich.com". The arrogance of this person >is only rivaled by the words of P. T. Barnum " A sucker is born every >minute". In the end, if this man is using the "disclaimers" on every >page to linking pages, not claiming that the information is his, might >be within his rights. Our protests might be moot. We can only hope that >this can be dealt with and resolved on the national level. > >Best to all and have a good day >Marie K. Loughlin - CC Polk Co. > >

History of the Town of Willow is now online: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wirichla/chap34.htm The history of the Town of Sylvan will be done next. Tim

In a message dated 9/19/00 7:36:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hollyft@bright.net writes: > quoting me again huh Tina??? <grin> To all of you that had any doubt.. if I don't know an answer, I ask those that I know can help.. Do it all the time ... darn! my secret is out <VBG>!! Thank you very much Holly ... I hear you make a "mean" cup of coffee!!! Black please. Tina

At 07:06 PM 9/19/00 -0400, WIGenWebProject@aol.com wrote: >Holly's best advice, (thanks Holly), is "the best thing they can do is >simply label their sites clearly and have a way to get out of the >frame". quoting me again huh Tina??? <grin> There isn't much we can do directly to prevent people from linking to us in this manner, it is not illegal to link, but what we can do is be certain that when anyone gets to any of our pages from anywhere, they know clearly where they are at the very least. Simply putting a heading on every page that says that is the easiest action, such is the current *solution* on my Albany County NY site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyalbany/toc.html even better is including the url for the exact page as a frame busting link... this is what is on most of the pages on my Southeast kentucky site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~seky/datafile/index.html The coding to create a cut and paste coding for this header is at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~seky/sampleheader.html This uses SSI echoing to automatically include the correct url of the page and will work for Rootsweb sites and any other servers where SSI is permitted [do change the ~seky to whatever your dircetory is, such as ~wipierce]. You can do a similar version without SSI by simply inserting your url for each page as you go. Be sure to include the TARGET="_top" in the links so that if clicked it will come out of a frame if it is caught in one. Holly (MaMaT)

Okay, here is what I found out... http://gene_olson.tripod.com/index.html This individual is spearheading the effort to investigate FamilyDiscovery.com, and has detailed his efforts and information thus far. Another link that was shared with me was http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/familydiscovery.htm Holly's best advice, (thanks Holly), is "the best thing they can do is simply label their sites clearly and have a way to get out of the frame". Some of you have asked for the code, and I have asked Holly to provide it here. Holly, is a member of this list <VBG>, and is available to answer any and all questions... I hope that all of you will avail yourselves of the resources, and if you have any questions or comments at all, direct them to the list to be addressed. Tina In a message dated Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:16:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, WIGenWebProject@aol.com writes: << Hi all, Let me ask on the SC list, what the lastest is on the investigation of Familydiscovery.com I will post an update later today. Tina ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== Visit the Eau Claire County WIGenWeb Project Pages http://users.rootsweb.com/~wieaucla/eauclair.htm >>

Hi all, Let me ask on the SC list, what the lastest is on the investigation of Familydiscovery.com I will post an update later today. Tina

I have also been getting the mailing asking me to subscribe. Have gotten the email on several different days. Paula WaupacaCC >From: marie loughlin <mloughli@centurytel.com> (by way of Tim Stowell ><tstowell@chattanooga.net>) >To: WIGEN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [WIGEN-L] FamilyDiscovery Site Information >Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 02:14:17 -0400 > >Linda and List, > >I also received the same form letter as Linda. >Marie Loughlin - Polk Co. > >Linda Schwartz wrote: > > > On this same note, I received the following today trying to get me to > > subscribe. > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > From: Family Discovery <email@familydiscovery.com> > > To: <lriley@terraworld.net> > > Subject: Greetings Fellow Genealogist... > > Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 06:08:45 -0700 > > > > Greetings Fellow Genealogist: > > We have taken a notice of your interest in genealogy as you have been >highly > > recommended to us by another genealogical publishing company. We just > > wanted to let > > you know you are invited to organize a successful search for your family > > with one of the > > best genealogical sites on the Internet . > > http://www.familydiscovery.com > > What FamilyDiscovery.com is: > > What we have for you is an online genealogy subscription giving you >access > > to the > > #1 database of compiled genealogical information on the internet. The >Online > > Subscription will help you find the family that you're looking for >faster > > and easier - > > without spending lots of time and money. We have taken the time and >organized > > thousands of databases into hundreds of category's that make it a snap >for > > you to find > > exactly what you are looking for in under a minute. No more searching >for > > your family > > and coming up with dead ends on the internet or on those expensive >CD-ROMS. > > We've done all the searching for you. > > What type of Information will you find? > > FamilyDiscovery.com will give you all the information you could possibly > > search in a > > lifetime as we do add more records daily covering all 50 US States and >Most > > Countries Overseas including but not limited to: > > Immigration Records, Census Records, Land Records Church Records Court >House > > Records Cemetery Records Birth Records, Death & Mortality Records, >Marriage > > Records, Military Records, Wills of Testament, Published Genealogies & >Family > > Histories, Pedigrees , Vital Records and Statistics. > > (Ex: Complete Mayflower Passenger List, Indian -Cherokee 1851 Census, >Virginia > > Tax Records, etc.. ) > > Since we know you're into genealogy we're offering you access to this > > complete database if you join by Monday 9/25/00 for a One Time Access >fee of > > ONLY $49.95 with absolutely nothing to pay EVER again, Accept NO >Substitutes! > > You'll receive your user name and password almost immediately so you can >start > > searching for your family right away! > > So what are you waiting for? Stop spending lots of time and money on > > dead ends let us lead you on your journey. > > Join TODAY! > > http://www.FamilyDiscovery.com > > > > - Staff, > > Email@familydiscovery.com > > http://www.familydiscovery.com > > PS: Now is your best time to join! Take this improtant first step and >get > > on the road to > > finding your family faster and easier. > > > > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Door County WIGenWeb Project Pages > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/door/ > > > >==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== >Visit the Douglas County WIGenWeb Project Pages >http://www.rootsweb.com/~widougla/ > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

I have heard from the author of my 1910 census pages which are being sold on FamilyDiscovery.com. She has NO knowledge of this piracy. Can anything be done about the site? Shelley FOR THE WIGEN list Shelley, No, I have not had any dealings with them. I had gotten an email on another list that mentioned they were lifting information from USGenWeb sites, but I hadn't realized they were using my information now. Mary Beth Fay

Hi all, I cannot make the chat tomorrow evening.. my *big* sis, (she would shoot me, if I said older <g>), is flying to Maine, for a visit. I have asked Kelly to open the channel. You all have a great discussion without me! WIGenWeb Project Meetings Place: IRC server: irc.rootsweb.com (6667) Room: #USGW-WI Time: 9 PM EST Wednesdays http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/irc-chat.html Tina

Hi Bob & All, Actually checking this page out, this idiot has linked to Brown County Michigan's site, if you go to his site, click on Brown county, go to the bottom of the page, it takes you to Brown County, Michigan. It's bad enough to be linking to our sites and charge money in the pre-text that it is your own, it is a whole nuther matter to screw researchers up by giving them the wrong info in general. This guy is a total duh! Debie >This is a follow-on to Tim Stowell's email regarding the website >http://www.FamilyDiscovery.com that is stealing information from Alabama. >The guy is also stealing from our very own Marathon and Brown Counties! Go >in the back door http://128.121.230.66/Records/states/wisconsin.htm > >And drop to the bottom of the page. Under Marathon Counties are three >townships, Berlin, Hamburg, and Kronenwetter. FamilyDiscovery.com has the >same links to the 1910 census that Shelly Green, CC for Marathon County, >has. From her page, http://www.rootsweb.com/~wimarath/1910census.htm, it >sounds like Shelly has a working relationship with "Mary Beth Fay who lives >in Arizona" and supplies the census information. The question is, "Does >Mary Beth Fay allow FamilyDiscovery.com to post her work and permit >FamilyDiscovery.com to charge for it?" Shelly, could you please check this >out and get back to the WIGEN maillist? > >Thanks >Bob Herald >CC Clark County, Wisconsin

Linda and List, I also received the same form letter as Linda. Marie Loughlin - Polk Co. Linda Schwartz wrote: > On this same note, I received the following today trying to get me to > subscribe. > > ------------------------------------------- > From: Family Discovery <email@familydiscovery.com> > To: <lriley@terraworld.net> > Subject: Greetings Fellow Genealogist... > Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 06:08:45 -0700 > > Greetings Fellow Genealogist: > We have taken a notice of your interest in genealogy as you have been highly > recommended to us by another genealogical publishing company. We just > wanted to let > you know you are invited to organize a successful search for your family > with one of the > best genealogical sites on the Internet . > http://www.familydiscovery.com > What FamilyDiscovery.com is: > What we have for you is an online genealogy subscription giving you access > to the > #1 database of compiled genealogical information on the internet. The Online > Subscription will help you find the family that you're looking for faster > and easier - > without spending lots of time and money. We have taken the time and organized > thousands of databases into hundreds of category's that make it a snap for > you to find > exactly what you are looking for in under a minute. No more searching for > your family > and coming up with dead ends on the internet or on those expensive CD-ROMS. > We've done all the searching for you. > What type of Information will you find? > FamilyDiscovery.com will give you all the information you could possibly > search in a > lifetime as we do add more records daily covering all 50 US States and Most > Countries Overseas including but not limited to: > Immigration Records, Census Records, Land Records Church Records Court House > Records Cemetery Records Birth Records, Death & Mortality Records, Marriage > Records, Military Records, Wills of Testament, Published Genealogies & Family > Histories, Pedigrees , Vital Records and Statistics. > (Ex: Complete Mayflower Passenger List, Indian -Cherokee 1851 Census, Virginia > Tax Records, etc.. ) > Since we know you're into genealogy we're offering you access to this > complete database if you join by Monday 9/25/00 for a One Time Access fee of > ONLY $49.95 with absolutely nothing to pay EVER again, Accept NO Substitutes! > You'll receive your user name and password almost immediately so you can start > searching for your family right away! > So what are you waiting for? Stop spending lots of time and money on > dead ends let us lead you on your journey. > Join TODAY! > http://www.FamilyDiscovery.com > > - Staff, > Email@familydiscovery.com > http://www.familydiscovery.com > PS: Now is your best time to join! Take this improtant first step and get > on the road to > finding your family faster and easier. > > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Door County WIGenWeb Project Pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/door/

Hi, Could someome please post the html code for breaking out of frames again. I know it's simple and I swore I saved it, but I didn't : ( Thanks Melissa _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

I had sent warnings to my county mail lists, and got an email back from a girl who had joined. She went to the site the next day, and said they were not there. Shelley