Here I wasn't but am now (was out of the state for a couple of days but back at the ol' keyboard now)... Lori joan benner wrote: > Lori of Rock County, could you please contact me? I sent you a church > history item for your site a few days ago and haven't heard from you. > I'd like to make sure you received it, and my message wasn't lost to > an ISP's spam filter somewhere. > > Thanks, > > Joan > Adams and Marquette CC > > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > Celebrate Wisconsin! > Visit the Washburn County WIGenWeb Project Pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwashbu/ > > >

Lori of Rock County, could you please contact me? I sent you a church history item for your site a few days ago and haven't heard from you. I'd like to make sure you received it, and my message wasn't lost to an ISP's spam filter somewhere. Thanks, Joan Adams and Marquette CC

FYI. Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Swafford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:24 AM Subject: [STATE-COORD] Bylaws Revision -- News > (**Please forward to all appropriate project lists**) > > The Bylaws Revision Committee (BRC) has completed a first draft revision of > Section 3 of Article XV. Amendment to Bylaws > > Section 3. Proposed amendments from state projects must be posted > for display on the national website (with attribution of the state sponsor > and date ) not later than 1 June. To qualify for placement on the annual > election ballot proposed amendments must have an additional four (4) states > as co-sponsors. State projects may co-sponsor an amendment proposal by 2/3 > majority of legal votes cast by its members to support the amendment. > > All revision drafts may be viewed at http://home.mchsi.com/~sagitta56/ > > Members are encouraged to send comments or questions related to this or > other revision drafts. > > **The BRC is seeking a volunteer to fill a vacancy on the committee. > Interested members please contact the National Coordinator or the BRC > Chairman. > > Roger Swafford > BRC - Chairman >

Fond du Lac county GenWeb has added an 1896 map of the civil war to it's website. It was donated to the site by a Fond du Lac family, who had kept the map because a family member was in the campaign. Handwriting on the map indicates that it was created for a lecture on Gettysburg, given March 18th, 1897 by Gen. Briant (Dean of University of Wisconsin) There are two parts to the map: 1 map is labeled "Potomac Campaigns of the Third Wisconsin Vol. Infantry The 2nd map is the Battlefield of Gettysburg, Showing the Movements of the 12th Army Corps. Thanks to the Whelan family for this donation. You can find a link to the map, on the Fond du Lac map page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wifonddu/resources/maps-x.html or go directly to http://www.rootsweb.com/~wifonddu/resources/maps/civilwar.html Tracy Reinhardt Fond du Lac and Winnebago Co. Genweb

At 06:08 PM 12/10/03 -0500, you wrote: >Hi all, > >I based what I presented to the group very much on the MDGenWeb Project >Guidelines (with the permission of the SC). I visited many XXGenWeb Project >guidelines and felt that MDGenWeb Project's incorporated a wonderful basis >for us to begin our discussions. http://www.mdgenweb.org/guidelines.htm > >Tim, thank you for sharing GAGenWeb Project's. > >Tina Please be aware that Georgia's Guidelines are not perfect. A year or so under them, the CCs agreed that there were some that needed tweaking or further defining. The first item is to eliminate any conflicts with the National Bylaws. Secondly, a Bill of Rights for the CCs is being added. Lastly, each Guideline will be reviewed, further explaining exactly what it means as items may have come up where the meaning wasn't clear enough. As time progresses I'm sure newly revised guidelines will also need to be reviewed for while we'd like to think we can anticipate every possible scenario, the reality is we can't. Tim

Hi all, I based what I presented to the group very much on the MDGenWeb Project Guidelines (with the permission of the SC). I visited many XXGenWeb Project guidelines and felt that MDGenWeb Project's incorporated a wonderful basis for us to begin our discussions. http://www.mdgenweb.org/guidelines.htm Tim, thank you for sharing GAGenWeb Project's. Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Vaughan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [WIGEN-L] Comments in General > Sounds like a good plan of action to me. > > > Paula > Waupaca County Coordinator > WIGenWeb Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwaupac/index.htm > > > > > > >From: "Carolyn Caflisch" <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [WIGEN-L] Comments in General > >Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:33:19 -0600 (CST) > > > > > <snipped>It may or may not interest you to see how CCs in another state > >have > > > guidelines > > > under which they operate - voted upon by the CCs: > > > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/guidelines.htm > > > > > > Tim > > > SC GAGenWeb > >================================ > >I think everyone should take a look at what Tim sent us. Here is where we > >should start. > >Why reinvent something that is already a sound guideline. > >These can be addressed by category one at a time and become our WIGenWeb > >guidelines after discussion and tweaking. But lets do it after the first > >of January - Christmas is fast approaching and that is where my spirit > >lies. > > > >Carolyn > > > >Happy Holidays to you all!! > > > > > >==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > >Celebrate Wisconsin! > >Visit the Walworth County WIGenWeb Project Pages > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwalwor/ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of slow downloads and busy signals? Get a high-speed Internet > connection! Comparison-shop your local high-speed providers here. > https://broadband.msn.com > > > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > Celebrate Wisconsin! > Visit the Waupaca County WIGenWeb Project Pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwaupac/index.htm >

Sounds like a good plan of action to me. Paula Waupaca County Coordinator WIGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwaupac/index.htm >From: "Carolyn Caflisch" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [WIGEN-L] Comments in General >Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:33:19 -0600 (CST) > > > <snipped>It may or may not interest you to see how CCs in another state >have > > guidelines > > under which they operate - voted upon by the CCs: > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/guidelines.htm > > > > Tim > > SC GAGenWeb >================================ >I think everyone should take a look at what Tim sent us. Here is where we >should start. >Why reinvent something that is already a sound guideline. >These can be addressed by category one at a time and become our WIGenWeb >guidelines after discussion and tweaking. But lets do it after the first >of January - Christmas is fast approaching and that is where my spirit >lies. > >Carolyn > >Happy Holidays to you all!! > > >==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== >Celebrate Wisconsin! >Visit the Walworth County WIGenWeb Project Pages >http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwalwor/ > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of slow downloads and busy signals? Get a high-speed Internet connection! Comparison-shop your local high-speed providers here. https://broadband.msn.com

Tracy, This is so cool. Haven't found the ones who struck it rich yet in my family. Still looking for several of them yet. Thanks for sharing this, and Happy Holidays. Rita Tracy Reinhardt wrote: > here's a link to my Holiday wishes: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wifonddu/xmastree.html > > Tracy Reinhardt > > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > Celebrate Wisconsin! > Visit the Washington County WIGenWeb Project Pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwashin/

> <snipped>It may or may not interest you to see how CCs in another state have > guidelines > under which they operate - voted upon by the CCs: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/guidelines.htm > > Tim > SC GAGenWeb ================================ I think everyone should take a look at what Tim sent us. Here is where we should start. Why reinvent something that is already a sound guideline. These can be addressed by category one at a time and become our WIGenWeb guidelines after discussion and tweaking. But lets do it after the first of January - Christmas is fast approaching and that is where my spirit lies. Carolyn Happy Holidays to you all!!

Thanks Tim-I'll take a look. Paula Waupaca County Coordinator WIGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwaupac/index.htm >From: Tim Stowell <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [WIGEN-L] Comments in General >Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:36:02 -0500 > >At 01:54 PM 12/7/03 -0600, Paula wrote: > >Has there been a problem in the past on the way our voting system is set >up? > >Has the system been one vote per cc no matter how many counties they were >cc > >of and no vote for co-cc's? If this is how is has been I would like to >see > >it kept that way. > > > >Tina- stated in a previous email "Some states have TC - Town Coordinators >- > >should we address this in case it comes up in the future." I would >suggest > >any decision we decide upon for the co-cc's should also apply to any Town > >Coordinators. > > > ><snipped> from another of Tina's emails Thus my "Each member may cast one > >vote only (no matter the number of county or topical sites hosted)." > > > >By wording it each member, wouldn't that read to mean each cc, co-cc or >town > >cc would have a vote? > >It may or may not interest you to see how CCs in another state have >guidelines >under which they operate - voted upon by the CCs: > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/guidelines.htm > >Tim >SC GAGenWeb > > >==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== >Celebrate Wisconsin! >Visit the Vernon County WIGenWeb Project Pages >http://www.rootsweb.com/~wivernon/ > _________________________________________________________________ Our best dial-up offer is back. Get MSN Dial-up Internet Service for 6 months @ $9.95/month now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

At 01:54 PM 12/7/03 -0600, Paula wrote: >Has there been a problem in the past on the way our voting system is set up? >Has the system been one vote per cc no matter how many counties they were cc >of and no vote for co-cc's? If this is how is has been I would like to see >it kept that way. > >Tina- stated in a previous email "Some states have TC - Town Coordinators - >should we address this in case it comes up in the future." I would suggest >any decision we decide upon for the co-cc's should also apply to any Town >Coordinators. > ><snipped> from another of Tina's emails Thus my "Each member may cast one >vote only (no matter the number of county or topical sites hosted)." > >By wording it each member, wouldn't that read to mean each cc, co-cc or town >cc would have a vote? It may or may not interest you to see how CCs in another state have guidelines under which they operate - voted upon by the CCs: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/guidelines.htm Tim SC GAGenWeb

At 08:07 AM 12/7/03 -0500, Linda wrote: >My two cents, although I agree with Nance ........ Should a coordinator only be allowed one county? NO Some have the time and motivation to do more. Let them! I'm afraid the reality is that there are some counties in Wis. that would never have a coordinator if this was the case. Where are the people who are dying to coordinate Douglas County? It's been nearly 2 years since I asked to be relieved of that. No one in that county has volunteered, let alone anyone else. If I had material for Douglas, I'd certainly donate it to you. Having no knowledge though of your county I'm sorry I couldn't assist you further. Has it been offered on the county mailing list? >Should each county be allowed only one vote in an election? YES Just curious for those who are married or have a signifigant other - do you vote only as a household in your local, state or national elections? >Should Ancestry say "thank you" by giving coordinators a free or >reduced-fee subscription? YES > What a nice idea! > >No offense meant to anyone else who has a differing opinion. :-) > >Linda >Dunn and Douglas Counties Tim Crawford and Richland counties

At 11:53 AM 12/7/03 -0600, Joan wrote: >We might get a great cc from a local society but then again, maybe not. > >As Nance worded so well yesterday, many of the county genealogy and >historical societies regard us as the "wicked internet woman/man" and have >some degree of competitive attitudes. Perhaps they fear we will put >everything on the internet they've indexed and no one will contact them >again to do research for $, and they will lose their *tight control* of the >data in *their* county. For this reason a local resident applying for a >site who has not been a contributor to boards and sites in the area should >be a big yellow caution light in the minds of the decision-makers. > >I can think of several counties where the WiGenWeb site was done by a local >resident and it was a store-front for a genealogy or historical society >with not alot of content on the pages or boards. In one WI county now >lacking a cc, any contributors were contacted by the pair of "volunteers" >and strongly discouraged from contributing to the messageboards or webpages >for the county, being told it was a big waste of time and they ought to >find another hobby, etc. However, I will say that it has been my experience where GenSocs or Historical societies cooperate with the CC, that it has been a win/win situation. When folks write to thank me for material on my website and wish to contribute $$, I say, thanks but no thanks - not that I'm wealthy by any standard in the USA, but instead ask that they contribute such to the local society or do a good deed for another researcher. That's thanks enough for me. I also actively encourage membership in the local societies by listmembers. Perhaps I've shared this before - but when one CC approached a local society about adding the indexes of one of their books online, they agreed on a trial basis; their book sales took off; so much so that they said - hey can you add the rest of our material - which the CC gladly did. The society was so impressed by the positive response that they mentioned the same at the state convention whereupon the state convention contacted us and fairly begged us to do the same for the other societies across the state of North Dakota. But not only there - I've heard much the same response in different parts of the country. Just 2 cents worth. Tim

At 08:18 AM 12/7/03 -0600, you wrote: >I need to clarify my comment about county co-ordinators before it goes >any further. > >Please don't read between the lines. I never stated that residing in >your county should be a requirement! > >I was bringing up a topic as one of many things that should be thought >about, if we are going to adjust or discuss voting....this is an issue >that someone might bring up to be voted upon... > >And, my comment was made because...when someone resigns from a county >site, often members of that county genealogical society sometimes are >unaware that the site is up for adoption. Recruitment of new cc's >should START with the local society. That was the only intent of my >comment, because I feel strongly that they have access to more material.. True. Sometimes though, GenSocs want to control the county site so they can prevent material from being added - for they want to sell the data to visitors. >And, it is very logical to state that a local resident is much more >effective.......there are many genealogical materials available at a >local level, that are not handy to a county co-ordinator who resides in >a different state. True, but there are also many resources held by former residents that like myself live from from the county I host who share and share and share. In fact I've found most of my material outside of the counties I host, some that residents of the county didn't even know existed - or that was available only if folks visited the local library. That's the flip side. >I get emails from out-of-state researchers, who travel here on vacation, >and I help and assist them, even take them directly to the cemetery that >they are looking for, if it is one I am familiar with. I do as well, so I ask on the county mailing list and send the information to the folks asking. >Once again, wondering if it pays to participate in this list. > >tracy reinhardt Yes, it does - for I don't expect in this lifetime to know it all - and so I rely on the knowledge of others to fill in the gaps of my experience or first hand knowledge regarding Wisconsin and/or coding difficulties that arise from time to time. Tim

The snow has arrived. We just got 2-3 inches and more on the way later tonight. Its starting to look alot like Christmas. And with a little luck the snow will stay and the snowmobile trails will open before soon. Merry Christmas Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "RMN" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 08 December, 2003 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [WIGEN-L] Voting criteria They are predicting cold and wet headed your way starting midweek. With luck, it will come in that order. If not, it may be the "mush" mobile races. Got my fingers crossed for you. Rita

FYI. Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Swafford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:29 PM Subject: [STATE-COORD] Bylaws Revision -- News > (**Please forward to all appropriate project lists**) > > The Bylaws Revision Committee (BRC) has completed a first draft revision of > Section 2 of Article XV. Amendment to Bylaws > > Section 2. Members of any XXGenWeb may submit an amendment proposal > (in proper format with desired wording) to their State Coordinator for > review and presentation to the XXGenWeb membership by referendum. A 2/3 vote > of approval shall cause the proposal to be forwarded to the Advisory Board > to be posted on the national website and notice to be sent to the membership > via appropriate email lists. > > All revision drafts may be viewed at http://home.mchsi.com/~sagitta56/ > > Members are encouraged to send comments or questions related to this or > other revision drafts. > > **The BRC is seeking a volunteer to fill a vacancy on the committee. > Interested members please contact the National Coordinator or the BRC > Chairman. > > Roger Swafford > BRC - Chairman >

LOL Mak, you did get it wrong! Debbie Barrett (me) of Pierce County lives in Washington. Aren't you just south of me in CA? Debbie > sorry wrong Debie - and it wasn't menat for the > Mailing list - yikes... R/S MAK > > > > ===== > MAKTranscriber - > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwood > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiportag > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wimonroe > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > Celebrate Wisconsin! > Visit the Washburn County WIGenWeb Project Pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwashbu/ >

In a message dated 12/9/2003 1:16:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Judy, My final total was 20 inches at my home in Maine .. I will share all but a foot -- I do love a White Christmas! I am sure Anne in CT has more than I to share .. Lots of snow, but today shown bright! Tina Anne, checking in and plowed out....LOL....we had about the same as Maine... a little west of me and they had 24"! We have had the driveway professionally plowed -- the 5th time in the 10 years I've been in Connecticut! We're usually hard-core snow blowers & shovelers, but this time it was a tad much. BUT the mailbox did stay up... the big state plows on this narrow town road usually pick it off 5 times a season -- if I could send snow your way, I would! Here in CT it is usually gone in about 3 or 4 days... we seldom have a white Christmas in my neck of the woods... last year, the only Christmas snows we had were when I had to retrieve/take family to Logan in Boston... and the moon was so bright and beautiful last night -- crisp. clear, oh-- and COLD! And I do remember the snowmobile races in Rhinelander/Eagle River, and for Northern WI and UP to be snowless must really be hurting the economy... Back to shoveling off the deck.... Anne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And my current projects are: WELCOME to SHAWANO CO. WIGenWeb WELCOME TO THE GILMANTON NH ANCESTORS SITE CONNECTICUT BIOGRAPHIES PROJECT Shawano County Wisconsin Biographies Langlade County Wisconsin Biographies The Obituary Daily Times - Tagname "ATCz" Genie-Angels ~ Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

They are predicting cold and wet headed your way starting midweek. With luck, it will come in that order. If not, it may be the "mush" mobile races. Got my fingers crossed for you. Rita Judy Groh wrote: > I have been following the discussion on voting and would like to add another > option to consider. > > a) Eligible Voters are County Coordinators, Asst. County Coordinators and > Co-Coordinators, each person having only one vote regardless of the number > of counties they coordinate or help coordinate. > > b) Each county may have a Coordinator & Asst. Coordinator or two > co-coordinators. (limit of 2 people per county). There are no limits on > the number of other volunteers envolved but they are not eligible to vote. > > Some counties would still have 2 votes this way; but at least all county > coordinators who coordinate more than one county would have the option to > find a ACC or co-coordinator for each county who would be able to represent > that county with a vote. > > Maybe this would also encourage more people to become envolved in the > WIGenWeb project. > > respectfully > Judy (Iron, Oneida, Vilas counties) > > P.S. if any CC who does not live in Wisconsin has to much snow please send > it here, especially to Iron County, they don't have enough for the > snowmobile races on Saturday. > > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ==== > Celebrate Wisconsin! > Visit the Walworth County WIGenWeb Project Pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwalwor/

here's a link to my Holiday wishes: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wifonddu/xmastree.html Tracy Reinhardt