This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jEC.2ACE/1321.1 Message Board Post: I don't know if this will help you or not but I live in kiel, manitowoc county wisconsin; the Joas name is also very prominent in our area. There are several just outside of Kiel. The Arthur Joas family; Joseph and Marylny, These are just a few of them. Perhaps this is something you can use to obtain more of the information you are seeking. best of luck D.S.