This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jEC.2ACE/290.556.1 Message Board Post: Hi Adrienne, My husband's grandfather's name is Fred. He had three brothers: Edward, Arnold, and Louie. They all settled in the Manawa area. Fred was born around 1888. Could they possibly be related to your Elmer?