This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jEC.2ACE/966.965.1.2.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Pam, I have this family in my database. I don't have anything more on the Kraemers, but do have quite a bit on the Gross family back in Germany. If you are interested, write to me at [email protected] Virginia