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Katherine This was in the Mayville News "News In Review" last week: The Mayville News Jan 14, 1908 Deaths: ... Ludwig F. Engel, 75, this city, father-in law of the Rev. Konrad Herbener Susan Smith

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I am trying to locate the descendants of William Bonner who operated a farm in Dodge County from 1850, until he died in 1905. William's great-grandfather was Robert Bonner, who came to the U.S. in 1777 at the age of 76, with daughter, Rachel. Robert's son, William stayed in Ireland, but his grandson, Andrew came to the U.S. with two of his sons, Robert and William. Robert purchased the New York Ledger and amassed a fortune. William bought the farm in Wisconsin. I know that William was married twice, once to Mary J. Stevens and to Mary A Ross. He had two children, William Ross and Allie. If anyone has information I would be very grateful for the assistance. Michele DeParasis

Hello, The Husting family in Theresa were direct descendants of Solomon Juneau http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/wlhba_images/007/00700011.gif with one of them being elected to the US Senate http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/wlhba_images/006/00600656.gif Senator was later tragically killed while duck hunting. I am a direct-line descendant of the Greiner family. Please contact me directly if you need anything. Best Regards, Dennis Lohr Some Lohr and Fortun Families of Southern Wisconsin & Northern Illinois http://www.lohr-genealogy.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Barb Glassel <tglassel@execpc.com> To: Dodge Co RW List <widodge@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 8:16:03 PM Subject: [WIDODGE] German Clock exhibited in 1892 Greetings, We have just found an old newspaper clipping among some GREINER & STADLER family papers. The column is headed, "News in Review, _Dodge County Pionier_, October 13, 1892." But it is in English, so may be a translation from a much more recent Mayville newspaper? "An exceptional example of German craftsmanship in clockmaking will be on display at Herberg's concert hall. The clock is 12 feet high and 10 feet wide, it weighs 1,500 pounds and its 265 wheels are kept in motion by a pendulum. Admission charge is 10 cents. This masterpiece will be installed in E. Husting's tavern in Theresa, after the showing here." Our questions: Where was Herberg's concert hall located? Are any photos available of this clock? Can't imagine what it looked like! Did this clock continue to travel around the US, on exhibition, or does it still exist in Theresa or anywhere in the area? An ALBERT family relative of mine married Hulda HERBERG, who may possibly be related to the concert hall owners? Thanks for any information or suggestions, Tom & Barb Glassel Researching ALBERT, GREINER, STADLER, ENDE, FRITZ, ZOLLINGER, SCHWARZMUELLER, FUERTNER in Dodge County ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIDODGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Herberg's was in Mayville on the northwest corner of Main and Allen Streets. The building burned down a few years ago and a new one has taken it's place. The Mayville Historical Society may have information on the clock exhibit. http://www.mayvillecity.com/organizations/historical_society.html or http://tourism.state.wi.us/item_detail/Mayville_Historical_Society.aspx Susan

The Mayville News still runs a page titled "News in Review". Someone at the Mayville News has translated the articles from the Dodge County Pioneer for publication in the Mayville News. The Hartford History Room has the Dodge County Pioneer from about 1880 to about 1920 translated and indexed if your looking for information from the old German language newspaper. This is the only place in the state that I know of that has the Dodge County Pioneer in English. I lived in Theresa in the 1950-1960 and I don't remember a Husting's tavern or Herberg's concert hall in the area. By the 1950's both may of been closed or renamed. Bill H. --- Barb Glassel <tglassel@execpc.com> wrote: > Greetings, > We have just found an old newspaper clipping among > some GREINER & > STADLER family papers. The column is headed, "News > in Review, _Dodge > County Pionier_, October 13, 1892." But it is in > English, so may be a > translation from a much more recent Mayville > newspaper? > > "An exceptional example of German craftsmanship in > clockmaking will be > on display at Herberg's concert hall. The clock is > 12 feet high and 10 > feet wide, it weighs 1,500 pounds and its 265 wheels > are kept in motion > by a pendulum. Admission charge is 10 cents. This > masterpiece will be > installed in E. Husting's tavern in Theresa, after > the showing here." > > Our questions: > Where was Herberg's concert hall located? > Are any photos available of this clock? Can't > imagine what it looked like! > Did this clock continue to travel around the US, on > exhibition, or does > it still exist in Theresa or anywhere in the area? > An ALBERT family > relative of mine married Hulda HERBERG, who may > possibly be related to > the concert hall owners? > > Thanks for any information or suggestions, > Tom & Barb Glassel > Researching ALBERT, GREINER, STADLER, ENDE, FRITZ, > ZOLLINGER, > SCHWARZMUELLER, FUERTNER in Dodge County > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to WIDODGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Greetings, We have just found an old newspaper clipping among some GREINER & STADLER family papers. The column is headed, "News in Review, _Dodge County Pionier_, October 13, 1892." But it is in English, so may be a translation from a much more recent Mayville newspaper? "An exceptional example of German craftsmanship in clockmaking will be on display at Herberg's concert hall. The clock is 12 feet high and 10 feet wide, it weighs 1,500 pounds and its 265 wheels are kept in motion by a pendulum. Admission charge is 10 cents. This masterpiece will be installed in E. Husting's tavern in Theresa, after the showing here." Our questions: Where was Herberg's concert hall located? Are any photos available of this clock? Can't imagine what it looked like! Did this clock continue to travel around the US, on exhibition, or does it still exist in Theresa or anywhere in the area? An ALBERT family relative of mine married Hulda HERBERG, who may possibly be related to the concert hall owners? Thanks for any information or suggestions, Tom & Barb Glassel Researching ALBERT, GREINER, STADLER, ENDE, FRITZ, ZOLLINGER, SCHWARZMUELLER, FUERTNER in Dodge County

In 1849, my great great great grandfather, Jacob DOREMUS took his family from Parsippany, Morris County, NJ to Juneau, Dodge County, WI and returned to NJ in 1852. I am looking for any help, what the reason may have been for this move toWI. Were there land grants, employment opportunities etc.? I would appreciate any help or idea. Thanks, Tom in CT P.S. The following story was found in a small book about the DOREMUS family... Written by George Scudder Mott Doremus (Apparently told to him by his uncle, Andrew Doremus, Jacob's son)... "In 1849 (during a movement west) Jacob took his family to Juneau, WI. "All the family, thirteen souls went and eleven returned (1851). The two remaining were Abraham and Joseph. These two returned a couple of years later" says a letter from (Uncle) Andrew. He continued: "Father lost all he had, being robbed at Dunkirk of his last dollar and his R.R. tickets. The conductor was very sympathetic and passed us all as far as his division, Suffern, N.Y. There we remained all night by the kindness of the hotel-keeper. The pay for the night's lodging and meals was made by the two oldest sisters, Martha and Sarah, doing washing early in the morning. Your Uncle John, Elijah and I walked from Suffern to Pompton Plains to mother's Aunt and Uncle (grandmother VanDynes's sister) where we rested. Thence we went to Parsippany to my Uncle John's. The rest of the family was passed (by the solicitation of the previous conductor) by the next to Paterson and thence to Paramus to Uncle Abraham Ackerman's. (Father's sister Rachel) and Aunt Lockey's. From there to Parsippany by them to Uncle John's. Uncle John sold father 15 acres from the north side of his farm, on credit and by neighbors' help he built a small house." The house at the foot of Fox Hill was lost. Jacob signed a note for a neighbor whose "word was as good as his bond, etc." During his absence the note went to protest and the property was taken over."

Hello Tom This probably won't help much. I grew up in Horicon which is 5 miles NE of Juneau and I have relatives living in Juneau. Back in the 1850s most of the towns in that part of Dodge County were less than 10 years old. So there was land available. My ancestors, the Miescke's came to Horicon from Pomerania in 1853 and settled on farms. Juneau, population 2100 is basically a farming community with little industry. The biggest employer in town is probably the county with the courthouse, highway department and other county departments. So more than likely they came for the farmland because there was little else to bring them to Juneau. The courthouse burned down in 1875 so there are no records at Juneau before 1875. Maybe there is someone else out there that knows more about the early history of Juneau than I do and can help. Bill H. --- Tom Smith <thwasm@gmail.com> wrote: > In 1849, my great great great grandfather, Jacob > DOREMUS took his > family from Parsippany, Morris County, NJ to Juneau, > Dodge County, WI > and returned to NJ in 1852. I am looking for any > help, what the > reason may have been for this move toWI. Were there > land grants, > employment opportunities etc.? > > I would appreciate any help or idea. > > Thanks, Tom in CT > > P.S. The following story was found in a small book > about the DOREMUS family... > > Written by George Scudder Mott Doremus (Apparently > told to him by his > uncle, Andrew Doremus, Jacob's son)... > > "In 1849 (during a movement west) Jacob took his > family to Juneau, WI. > "All the family, thirteen souls went and eleven > returned (1851). The > two remaining were Abraham and Joseph. These two > returned a couple of > years later" says a letter from (Uncle) Andrew. He > continued: "Father > lost all he had, being robbed at Dunkirk of his last > dollar and his > R.R. tickets. The conductor was very sympathetic > and passed us all as > far as his division, Suffern, N.Y. There we > remained all night by the > kindness of the hotel-keeper. The pay for the > night's lodging and > meals was made by the two oldest sisters, Martha and > Sarah, doing > washing early in the morning. Your Uncle John, > Elijah and I walked > from Suffern to Pompton Plains to mother's Aunt and > Uncle (grandmother > VanDynes's sister) where we rested. Thence we went > to Parsippany to > my Uncle John's. > > The rest of the family was passed (by the > solicitation of the previous > conductor) by the next to Paterson and thence to > Paramus to Uncle > Abraham Ackerman's. (Father's sister Rachel) and > Aunt Lockey's. From > there to Parsippany by them to Uncle John's. Uncle > John sold father > 15 acres from the north side of his farm, on credit > and by neighbors' > help he built a small house." > > The house at the foot of Fox Hill was lost. Jacob > signed a note for a > neighbor whose "word was as good as his bond, etc." > During his > absence the note went to protest and the property > was taken over." > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to WIDODGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC

Claudia, Have you checked the Wisconsin Historical Society on line? If not, enter Wisconsin Historical Society, click on RESEARCH, and then VITAL RECORDS. There are a number of Thomas Russells listed for birth, death and marriage in a number of counties in Wisconsin. Yours may be one of them. Claudia from MN ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hello fellow listers! I'm new to the list and am hoping someone can help me with the family of THOMAS & ANN RUSSELL. I have found them and their family in the 1860, 1880, and 1900 census for Dodge County. The family seems to have settled and stayed in Rubicon after they emigrated from England in 1851. I'm trying now to find death dates for both Thomas and Ann. Since they were still living in the 1900 census and I cannot find them in the 1910 census, I'm assuming they died between 1900 and 1910. If anyone can tell me when they died and where they are buried, it would be a major milestone in this research! Thank you in advance for any help! Claudia Pell-Salvatore ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hello Claudia If you go to the Dodge/Jefferson County Genealogical Society web page under newspaper clippings there are an Ann and Thomas Russell that both died on 6-21-1907, this may be an obituary from one of the local newspapers. You can order the newspaper clippings from them for $1.25. They have a large index of names that they have clippings for. Bill H. --- My2greys2@aol.com wrote: > Hello fellow listers! > > I'm new to the list and am hoping someone can help > me with the family of > THOMAS & ANN RUSSELL. I have found them and their > family in the 1860, 1880, and > 1900 census for Dodge County. The family seems to > have settled and stayed in > Rubicon after they emigrated from England in 1851. > I'm trying now to find death > dates for both Thomas and Ann. Since they were > still living in the 1900 > census and I cannot find them in the 1910 census, > I'm assuming they died between > 1900 and 1910. If anyone can tell me when they died > and where they are buried, > it would be a major milestone in this research! > > Thank you in advance for any help! > > Claudia Pell-Salvatore > > > > ************************************** See what's > free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to WIDODGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail

Hello to Katherine in Bellingham, WA. We hit the Jackpot! I called two Luth. churches in Beaver Dam and First Evangelical Lutheran was Rev. Otto's church. I am cc'ing to the churches' archives expert. (She started the archives!!) She has lots of info as well as his obituary. Good luck and enjoy all the info she has. Cheers, ginny Seaholm ----- Original Message ----- From: <KurtKathKels@aol.com> To: <widodge@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: [WIDODGE] Rev. Gammelin, Lutheran pastor in Beaver Dam > Dear Dodge County List, > > I am trying to find information about Rev. Otto Wilhelm GAMMELIN and his > wife > Katharina "Trinchen" HERBENER. > > He was pastor for a Lutheran church in Beaver Dam from 1909 - 1937 (or > 1947). > I am not sure which Lutheran church, but probably St. Stephens Lutheran > Church or First Lutheran Church. He died in 23 Sept 1950. He and his > wife > Katharina are both buried in Oakwood Cemetery. Katharina died in Fond du > Lac some > time in 1956. > > Have any of you heard of this name GAMMELIN in Beaver Dam? > > Sincerely, > Katherine Willis > Bellingham, WA 98225

Dear Dennis Lohr, Thank you so much for your wonderful help. These are very helpful leads and links, and I will check on them as soon as I can. You are so right. Dennis, you must have a photographic memory. The Herbener family was definitely a devout Lutheran family, and in Germany appeared to have resisted the government religion. It is amazing how many of my ancestors and relations were pastors in America. And married pastors! My grandfather Herbener (from Mayville, Dodge County) married a descendant of Old Lutherans from Pomerania (via Watertown). Destiny. Sincerely, Katherine Willis Bellingham, WA ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Many of these churches have the "Wall of Past Pastors". Not only are they wonderful to look at but often the names & dates of service are listed on the photo. If no one responds from one of the two churches, please write back. I can phone a few friends who attend/work at both St. Stephens and First Lutheran. His name sounds a bit like it might be St. Stephens...rather Germanic. We'll 'get 'er done. ginny > Dear Dodge County List, > > I am trying to find information about Rev. Otto Wilhelm GAMMELIN and his > wife > Katharina "Trinchen" HERBENER. > > He was pastor for a Lutheran church in Beaver Dam from 1909 - 1937 (or > 1947). > I am not sure which Lutheran church, but probably St. Stephens Lutheran > Church or First Lutheran Church. He died in 23 Sept 1950. He and his > wife > Katharina are both buried in Oakwood Cemetery. Katharina died in Fond du > Lac some > time in 1956. > > Have any of you heard of this name GAMMELIN in Beaver Dam? > > Sincerely, > Katherine Willis > Bellingham, WA 98225 > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WIDODGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Katherine, You should contact the Dodge/Jefferson Genealogical Society with regard to the following articles referenced from the same article: (1) Gammelin, Rev. O., 1937 Beaver Dam History, 977.5-Dodge-So8, pg 266 (2) Gammelin, Rev. Otto W., 1909 Beaver Dam History, 977.5-Dodge-So8, pg 266 LINK http://dodgejeffgen.com/archive/BeaverDamHistoryBkIndex_1.htm Additionally, this could also be another link for you: Dr. Martin Luther Church (Oconomowoc, WI) Pastors Who Served 1932-1957 Rev. O.W. Gammelin, Interim Retired pastor and member of congregation LINK http://www.drmartinlutherchurch.org/pastorsserved.htm So it would appear your Rev. Gammelin was also in Oconomowoc, about 30 miles away from Beaver Dam, but quite possibly he traveled just as an interim pastor and didn't spend any time there. And while I don't recognize the Gammelin surname per se, I do recognize Herbener albeit with no connection to that family: Herbener is a name with pretty strong ties to the Altlutheran "Old Lutheran" families from Pomerania that settled in Dodge County. So my suspicion is that Rev. Gammelin was also from an Old Lutheran family, as they were quite devout because they immigrated to escape religious persecution in their native Pomerania. Best Regards, Dennis Lohr Milwaukee, WI ----- Original Message ---- From: "KurtKathKels@aol.com" <KurtKathKels@aol.com> To: widodge@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 10:51:36 AM Subject: [WIDODGE] Rev. Gammelin, Lutheran pastor in Beaver Dam Dear Dodge County List, I am trying to find information about Rev. Otto Wilhelm GAMMELIN and his wife Katharina "Trinchen" HERBENER. He was pastor for a Lutheran church in Beaver Dam from 1909 - 1937 (or 1947). I am not sure which Lutheran church, but probably St. Stephens Lutheran Church or First Lutheran Church. He died in 23 Sept 1950. He and his wife Katharina are both buried in Oakwood Cemetery. Katharina died in Fond du Lac some time in 1956. Have any of you heard of this name GAMMELIN in Beaver Dam? Sincerely, Katherine Willis Bellingham, WA 98225 ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIDODGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222

If you know to which Lutheran denomination the congregation or pastor belongs, you might want to contact the archives department of the national body. They should have information on the pastors and other church workers. Peace..... .....Daryl Rev. Daryl D. Gehlbach Pastor Trinity Lutheran Church 3245 New Brighton Road Arden HIlls, MN 55112 Vacancy Pastor Prince of Peace Lutheran Church for the Deaf 3245 New Brighton Road Arden HIlls, MN 55112 ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Dear Dodge County List, I am trying to find information about Rev. Otto Wilhelm GAMMELIN and his wife Katharina "Trinchen" HERBENER. He was pastor for a Lutheran church in Beaver Dam from 1909 - 1937 (or 1947). I am not sure which Lutheran church, but probably St. Stephens Lutheran Church or First Lutheran Church. He died in 23 Sept 1950. He and his wife Katharina are both buried in Oakwood Cemetery. Katharina died in Fond du Lac some time in 1956. Have any of you heard of this name GAMMELIN in Beaver Dam? Sincerely, Katherine Willis Bellingham, WA 98225 ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.