In response to: - - - - - - - - - - - Looking for any info on Gottlob/Gottlieb Widmann, born about 1858/59 in Germany; married Kathrina Christina Rudolph, 4 Oct 1884 in Clinton, Henry County, Missouri. Drowned 23 Oct 1884 in Brownington, Henry, Missouri. 1 child, Mary Martha Widmann, born 18 Jun 1885 in Sedalia, Pettis County, Missouri. Any info would be deeply appreciated. - - - - - - - - - - - - I have some information on a Gottlieb Widmann, but I am not sure it is your Gottlieb. My Gottlieb was born in Zuphenhausen, Germany (now a suburb of Stuttgart) in about 1865, son of Johann Gottlieb Widmann (and Catherine Siegel who died in 1868). Johann (b 6 Nov 1827) and his two sons - Heinrich (b 1863) and Gottlieb immigrated on 6/10/1869 on the SS Bremen through New York, and went immediately to Dubuque Iowa to join Johann's two brothers who had previously immigrated (Fred in 1854 and Conrad in 1867). Johann was the 11th child of Jacob Friedrich Widmann and Madalena Pfisterer. Six of their 12 children died before age 2, and one at age 22 (two babies were twins). I am not sure if the two surviving daughters emigrated, but the three sons did, all to Dubuque. After arriving in Dubuque, Johann remarried. He died in Dubuque on 8 Oct 1888 and is buried in St. John's Lutheran Cemetery. I only offer this information because when I did a search on the 1880 census for a Gottlieb/Gottlob Widmann/Whitman I came up with no one that matches either of ours! Do you have any more information to see if this would match up? He would have only been about 19/20 upon the marriage and his death, so perhaps this is not a likely match. I am descended from Johann's brother Conrad, and only know so much about Johann because I have been researching why the Widmann's emigrated, and why to Dubuque. You can email me directly, and not "clutter" up the list with details, if you wish. I have census data, Ship Lists and German church records should this turn out to be a match. Donna Hay